High-value men vs ‘high-value’ women and the demise of male-female relations in the west featuring Andrew Tate

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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
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As if anyone will read that
 
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Read half of it already and I will say this thread is insanely based. Good thread bro
 
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Read every word, I will not watch a video with women talking in it so tldr for any short attention spancels

Bitches Ain't Shit.
 
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Read every word, I will not watch a video with women talking in it so tldr for any short attention spancels

Bitches Ain't Shit.
Summary
 
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Being a woman in the 21st century is having life in tutorial mode, amazing how many women don't realize this and openly criticize most men and don't value their effort even when they are in a relationship
 
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High IQ :bigbrain:
Women should always belong in the kitchen
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Tate is based, but have you seen her response? She talks about how tate can get away with this behaviour because he is high value, and because we aren't we shouldn't act like him.

Basically - you need to obey me, chad only
 
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Thanks for the thread. It was good read. Cheers.
 
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.
The reality is that he pays for Romanian hookers and then proceeds to say that he doesn't pay for sex.
 
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Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
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My only issue is you can’t expect women to have low body counts if every guy is trying to slay
 
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Even if you apply this thread into the real life, it will get you nowhere and it will get you no results. The thing is, competition is just too high and women CAN CHOOSE to sleep/be in relationship with 100's of guys in a matter of day, which is why you HAVE TO be competitive and best in ALL aspects of your life.

At the end of the day, women don't need you, if you attempt to act 'alpha' in relationship, you are replaceable within hours. Best takeaway would be to looksmax or just to give up, because getting relationship and companionship is basically competition against other men. There will be dozens of guys who wants the same thing from women, they will put tremendous effort into improving their lives to get with those women, why do you think you are any different.

At the end it all comes down to the things you cannot change :ogre: useless thread
 
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My only issue is you can’t expect women to have low body counts if every guy is trying to slay
wow ngl im desensitized cuz all I got from this video is "retard red pill coper argues with retard feminist coper" and I just chuckled at it.

But my thoughts on this thread?

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.
this is the prime male delusion.

"If I work enough, accumulate enough resources, I'll be high value!!!"
Wrong! Value is not determined by how much you work. There are people who work 80 hours a week at McDonalds and are low value. Just because you work and make resources doesn't make you high value.

Some things can not be bought or worked for. Particularly, genes and reproductive success. No matter how hard you work, women will always be more valuable than men because they are essentially guaranteed to reproduce and thus have evolutionary success. And you are not guaranteed this same opportunity, historically. In fact, historically having a chubby low tier Becky daughter probably has a higher average evolutionary payoff than a Maher tier son.

The entire human condition comes down to survival and reproduction. You as a man, even as Chad, spend your whole life compensating for the fact that you have low reproductive value. So no, andrew tate is not "high value". It is perfectly normal through all of human history that a slightly above average looking young woman is equivalent to rulers of nations and millionaires. You can't have enough resources or work your way into being reproductively valuable, which is the most important thing. The only men who are higher value than the average woman are literal king tier men, like Drake in modern times, or literal emperors thousands of years ago
 
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My only issue is you can’t expect women to have low body counts if every guy is trying to slay
Its a zero sum game, we cant expect girls to be saints while we act like horny degenerates :feelsbadman:
 
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Read every word.

But andrew tate still needs to fix his jaw and hair.

Jfl at letting your brother mog you so hard.

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wow ngl im desensitized cuz all I got from this video is "retard red pill coper argues with retard feminist coper" and I just chuckled at it.

But my thoughts on this thread?


this is the prime male delusion.

"If I work enough, accumulate enough resources, I'll be high value!!!"
Wrong! Value is not determined by how much you work. There are people who work 80 hours a week at McDonalds and are low value. Just because you work and make resources doesn't make you high value.

Some things can not be bought or worked for. Particularly, genes and reproductive success. No matter how hard you work, women will always be more valuable than men because they are essentially guaranteed to reproduce and thus have evolutionary success. And you are not guaranteed this same opportunity, historically. In fact, historically having a chubby low tier Becky daughter probably has a higher average evolutionary payoff than a Maher tier son.

The entire human condition comes down to survival and reproduction. You as a man, even as Chad, spend your whole life compensating for the fact that you have low reproductive value. So no, andrew tate is not "high value". It is perfectly normal through all of human history that a slightly above average looking young woman is equivalent to rulers of nations and millionaires. You can't have enough resources or work your way into being reproductively valuable, which is the most important thing. The only men who are higher value than the average woman are literal king tier men, like Drake in modern times, or literal emperors thousands of years ago
Stop reading FDS. That bitch is just a hoe
 
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Being a woman in the 21st century is having life in tutorial mode, amazing how many women don't realize this and openly criticize most men and don't value their effort even when they are in a relationship
Women can't live life on tutorial mode. Their brain chemistry doesn't allow it.
 
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The woman isn't GL. How did she disrespect the guy?

I want that my future wife earns a lot btw.
 
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thats why i am gratefull for my gf she's high HQNP hijabi girl thats still has values
 
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OP most of the shit you said I agree with and are completely facts expect for the body count part. It's a more complex problem.

Girls are so unchecked no matter their looks level. This year there was this fucking ugly girl that liked me and crushed on me. She had a boyfriend that mogs her to death. She was clowning her BF to me and showed me the messages he was sending her. She was disrespecting the fuck outta him and he still was simping for her being sorry. HE MOGGED HER. That bitch was ugly. She though she was that shit. When I rejected her she told all her friends I tried to hit on her and she rejected me which is crazy.

Most girls are like that and I'm not even lying to you, it's just crazy, they're so unchecked, and try to check them if you're not a super gigachad, they will ruin your fucking social life by accusing you of shit you never did (being a creep, sexual shit) etc etc etc. It happeend to one of my friends who called a ugly girl ugly (yes that's all he did). She ruined his whole school life by accusing him of asking for feet pics and most people clowned him (he never did that shit, and I know he never did because I been his friend for years and I know him)

That's why as a man, you shouldn't give too much importance to theses bitches. Just live in the moment, don't be insecure about your looks (which is so fucking hard to achieve) and get a cool social circle.
 
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Even if you apply this thread into the real life, it will get you nowhere and it will get you no results. The thing is, competition is just too high and women CAN CHOOSE to sleep/be in relationship with 100's of guys in a matter of day, which is why you HAVE TO be competitive and best in ALL aspects of your life.

At the end of the day, women don't need you, if you attempt to act 'alpha' in relationship, you are replaceable within hours. Best takeaway would be to looksmax or just to give up, because getting relationship and companionship is basically competition against other men. There will be dozens of guys who wants the same thing from women, they will put tremendous effort into improving their lives to get with those women, why do you think you are any different.

At the end it all comes down to the things you cannot change :ogre: useless thread
Tate actually talks about this in the video:

(it's timestamped)

How as a male, life is essentially player vs player and you always have to be the best to get what you want in life.
 
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Its a zero sum game, we cant expect girls to be saints while we act like horny degenerates :feelsbadman:
We are both horny degenerates to be fair

And me personally I don’t care about body count cuz I’ll never know the real # anyway lol it’s out of our control

Plus women have like what.. 8,000 nerve endings on their clitoris & can have multiple different types of orgasms

So I can’t expect them not to like sex lol
 
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We are both horny degenerates to be fair

And me personally I don’t care about body count cuz I’ll never know the real # anyway lol it’s out of our control

Plus women have like what.. 8,000 nerve endings on their clitoris & can have multiple different types of orgasms

So I can’t expect them not to like sex lol
Just buy an $1000 ring for a whore who got came in by the football team theory
 
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The woman isn't GL. How did she disrespect the guy?

I want that my future wife earns a lot btw.
She doesn't understand the self-development he had to go through to go get where he is now and perceives what he says/does as ''arrogant''. Then, she suggests that the egos of men like Tate are through the roof and how this is supposedly ''problematic'' when in reality, you need an ego to get successful but she will never understand that because as a female, everything was always handed to her on a silver platter.
 
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My only issue is you can’t expect women to have low body counts if every guy is trying to slay
Yes you can

A high quality woman should have the ability to say no, especially to good looking guys. You want a girl that can resist primal urges and impulses.

I will legit outright refuse to LTR a girl who’s had a one night stand, even if this excludes 99% of my options. If a girl can give in when she’s drunk or horny, a decision fuelled purely by lust, what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.

This is why I went clubbing with my gf before we were together (as feiends) numerous times to see how she reacts when chads approach her

I have said this before and I’ll say it again

99% of modern women are not fit for an LTR. If you find a unicorn, LTR her if not, keep slaying

Never settle when it comes to a relationship
 
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Yes you can

A high quality woman should have the ability to say no, especially to good looking guys. You want a girl that can resist primal urges and impulses.

I will legit outright refuse to LTR a girl who’s had a one night stand, even if this excludes 99% of my options. If a girl can give in when she’s drunk or horny, a decision fuelled purely by lust, what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.

This is why I went clubbing with my gf before we were together (as feiends) numerous times to see how she reacts when chads approach her

I have said this before and I’ll say it again

99% of modern women are not fit for an LTR. If you find a unicorn, LTR her if not, keep slaying

Never settle when it comes to a relationship

This, there’s lots of high quality women, I’d go as far as saying most women don’t have one night stands, it is very reasonable to demand low body count

Also tate is bald and ugly, who cares what he says. He’s also out of touch with reality due to being exposed to mostly whores and also he’s pandering to his audience of incels. Wake me up when he’s fucking models. Even in EE as a millionaire he’s not dating HQNP women, that should tell you how serious to take him
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
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The more I watch Andrew Tate the more I mire him ngl
It pissed me off how women disrespect the blood sweat and tears it takes to become high value

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Fuck it arranged marriage with freshie Bengali it is @FailedNormieManlet JFL
 
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I hate white women and now I hate dumb nigger bitches like this one too.

Team Tate baby!
 
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A high quality woman should have the ability to say no, especially to good looking guys. You want a girl that can resist primal urges and impulses.
This is all my own opinion btw. Everyone’s to each their own

There’s no such thing as high quality woman.. woman don’t come out the womb “high quality” unless you’re just talking about looks.. but that’s surface level mindset

You make her high quality based on your own standards & how she benefits your life & your program

Even if you’re doing everything right in the LTR there’s nothing you can do to stop her urges / impulses

It has nothing to do with you. It’s based off her own selfish desires

You cannot control women, you can only influence, guide & lead them

So if she cheats don’t get mad lol understand it what was out of her own selfish desire & charge her to the game

I will legit outright refuse to LTR a girl who’s had a one night stand, even if this excluded 99% of my options. If a girl can give in when she’s drunk or horny, a decision fuelled purely by lust, what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.
How will you test whether or not she’s has a one night stand before you met her?

How do you know she’s not putting on an act just to get you to like her more & possibly secure an LTR?

Unless you’re EXCLUSIVELY dating virgins, most chicks have already had some form of a ONS.. whether she was drunk or it was a regular hookup

And if you’re smart & have self awareness any guy would steer away from women who get drunk on a weekly basis & is eliminated from the LTR vetting process
what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.
Her attachment & emotions to you lol

Have we not seen Love Island?

New chads come in the villa, some girls turn others didn’t why? Because they’re already attached & have an emotional bond to the guy they’re with

Exhibit A: Tasha & Andrew vs Charlie

Its the same way how you made your night out thread where you met this chick who would’ve cheated on her bf with you

Her DESIRE to cheat on her bf with YOU was more important than losing the LTR

And she was probably not even that sexually / behaviorally attracted to him in the first place so that’ll make it worse

It all goes back to selfishness.

This whole “Chad will come in & steal your gf” is a meme.. unless you’re the most beta, needy, feminine bitch ass nigga she’s ever met :pepefrown:

Inb4 cope, you’re :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:, it’s all about looks

@Gargantuan delete any derailing comments if needed
 
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I doubt there was anything to do with Tate being gl or not, simply a matter of frame and proportions

Look at this black woman enthralled by mavrodi @vanilla @Thompsonz
 
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His worldview is revolving around the idea that every „high status male“ was not born this way but rather had to work hard for it. He is a typical redpill coper that doesn’t believe in genetic pre determinism. In this Interview it became obvious that he doesn’t think looks play a large role for a man. Considering the core of his worldview is already wrong, I don’t care about his opinions on other topics. He does redpill the normies though and that is always funny to watch
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
View attachment 1757346
I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

Yeah bro i am very familiar with tate

I have a setup myself where i have a main gf and side hoes.

Right now my gf is washing my dishes whilst i message other side girls
 
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His worldview is revolving around the idea that every „high status male“ was not born this way but rather had to work hard for it. He is a typical redpill coper that doesn’t believe in genetic pre determinism. In this Interview it became obvious that he doesn’t think looks play a large role for a man. Considering the core of his worldview is already wrong, I don’t care about his opinions on other topics. He does redpill the normies though and that is always funny to watch
We can certainly expect Tate to try and take over the manosphere, with all the podcasts and shows that he's been going on.
 
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Tate is based, but have you seen her response? She talks about how tate can get away with this behaviour because he is high value, and because we aren't we shouldn't act like him.

Basically - you need to obey me, chad only
the men who follow that logic are idiots, your acting as if said women is some god or being from another dimension its just a women.
 
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Tate is based, but have you seen her response? She talks about how tate can get away with this behaviour because he is high value, and because we aren't we shouldn't act like him.

Basically - you need to obey me, chad only

I'd obey her tbh :feelshah:
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
View attachment 1757376View attachment 1757377View attachment 1757378
>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
View attachment 1757346
I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

at 24:25 minutes in , this lady is on some bullshit, she thinks she can use the word alpha to make men with options not cheat and go along with what ever she wants.
 
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Didn't watch the video but read the whole wall of text.
I have many female cousins with top jobs or working as uni professors with their doctorates and whatnot, and they are single with a dog. Women think having a high paying job equals high value for them and they just can't find another "high value" male since they are in their mid-late thirties, and any thirty year old male with a doctorate (and somehow more status than them of course) will rather fuck/mate a 25 year old or younger, and trust me, there are plenty of women this age willing.
So basically most high achievement women will rather die single than settle with a lower status male, this has been known since forever and noticed by many philosophers and whatnot. Add to this the import of a million niggers from all the shitholes of the world and the racemixing and you got jewed pretty bad. The mid-low class will become even lower and the high class will become even higher.
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
View attachment 1757376View attachment 1757377View attachment 1757378
>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

andrew tate is a scammer/ e-pimp. Everything he does is to sell his products. Remember all good deception starts with a grain of truth. A lot of what he says is legit but his reason for saying it is all suspect.
 
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The "demise" of male-female relations is only true among secular materialists. Scripture warned of this, which is why you should follow God and Jesus Christ and marry a devout Christian woman.
 
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Well articulated post. TBH, these kind of women with humility and no ludicrous sense of entitlement usually tend to be from more modest families or religious or helicopter parenting OR on the other end of spectrum mentally disturbed or extremely rich or good looking and constantly seeing sycophants who seem so transparently wanting to be with you for "shallow" reasons, they are the ones who get it

I'm sure deep down biological monkey branching instincts are the same but parenting and moralistic upbringing is necessary or experiencing fakeness from people and then developing some internal code sense of kindness and justice

Most of these American Zoomer prototypes have never left their fairy tale bubble to see what the world is actually like
 
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One example I can think of is Angelina Jolie, probably the most empathetic and humanitarian person in the film industry to ever exist
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
View attachment 1757346
I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

Tates a fucking G

Andrew "Top G, Top Striker, Mr. Producer, Mr. Plenty, Trigger Don" Tate :ogre:
 
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His worldview is revolving around the idea that every „high status male“ was not born this way but rather had to work hard for it. He is a typical redpill coper that doesn’t believe in genetic pre determinism. In this Interview it became obvious that he doesn’t think looks play a large role for a man. Considering the core of his worldview is already wrong, I don’t care about his opinions on other topics. He does redpill the normies though and that is always funny to watch
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wtf is this couple from russia?
 
He said a lot of based shit that made sense ngl...

But then she started saying "No, Andrew you are the problem" :forcedsmile: :lul:. Average typical foid behaviour, she must always be right even if he just proved her wrong and spent like 10 minutes giving a speech about human history and evolution and so on and so forth to make a valid point based on evidence
 
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He said a lot of based shit that made sense ngl...

But then she started saying "No, Andrew you are the problem" :forcedsmile: :lul:. Average typical foid behaviour, she must always be right even if he just proved her wrong and spent like 10 minutes giving a speech about human history and evolution and so on and so forth to make a valid point based on evidence
you should see his clips on freshandfit podcast, there has been maybe 1 intellegent woman. and by intellegent i means smarter than other women. those bimbos are still at most like the 30th percentile of male intellegence.

they are incapable of listening to logic its fucking embarassing, he has some kinda dumb takes once in a while, like sushi is for girls :lul:but overall hes a fucking G and hes making money for hella teens and young men, im following his advice with my youtube channel. i post tate shorts and its working pretty damn well

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:ogre: peep the stats :ogre:
 
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you should see his clips on freshandfit podcast, there has been maybe 1 intellegent woman. and by intellegent i means smarter than other women. those bimbos are still at most like the 30th percentile of male intellegence.

they are incapable of listening to logic its fucking embarassing, he has some kinda dumb takes once in a while, like sushi is for girls :lul:but overall hes a fucking G and hes making money for hella teens and young men, im following his advice with my youtube channel. i post tate shorts and its working pretty damn well

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:ogre: peep the stats :ogre:
mirin ur entrepreneurship and taking advantage of his current popularity, which is fucking huge atm, good job man
 
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