High-value men vs ‘high-value’ women and the demise of male-female relations in the west featuring Andrew Tate

Kind-of read it. Ive been saying this for years. The real black pill is not that you’re sub chad. The real blackpill is that chads and non chads alike will be fucked over by women anyway
 
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Lol Off topic but Tasha didn't jump ship with Andrew because she was basically called out for it. She would have left Andrew if it wasn't from the backlash she received from the boys in the Villa. Andrew is also a giga simp - may be He's simping cos he wants to win the show not because he's really into her.
Bout to watch the new episode

Now we’ll see who will “‘monkey branch” & jump ship :lul:
 
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Kind-of read it. Ive been saying this for years. The real black pill is not that you’re sub chad. The real blackpill is that chads and non chads alike will be fucked over by women anyway
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Kind-of read it. Ive been saying this for years. The real black pill is not that you’re sub chad. The real blackpill is that chads and non chads alike will be fucked over by women anyway
vantablack pill=none of it matters. no matter how great your accomplishment, how good you look, how many foids you fucked, or how many children you've had, the survival of your specific genome past a few hundred years is incredibly unlikely due to the infinite amount of factors involved that can end your bloodline in an instant. furthermore, cosmic events well beyond the control of any human will almost certainly destroy all record of human existence eventually. beyond that, the entropic head death of the universe guarantees it.

just get big as fuck, eat fast food, and drink protein shakes
 
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Its a zero sum game, we cant expect girls to be saints while we act like horny degenerates :feelsbadman:
This is wrong. With this way of thinking, you come to the conclusion men and woman are equal. Even though we are not.
 
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Yes you can

A high quality woman should have the ability to say no, especially to good looking guys. You want a girl that can resist primal urges and impulses.

I will legit outright refuse to LTR a girl who’s had a one night stand, even if this excludes 99% of my options. If a girl can give in when she’s drunk or horny, a decision fuelled purely by lust, what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.

This is why I went clubbing with my gf before we were together (as feiends) numerous times to see how she reacts when chads approach her

I have said this before and I’ll say it again

99% of modern women are not fit for an LTR. If you find a unicorn, LTR her if not, keep slaying

Never settle when it comes to a relationship
100000000000%
 
manosphere version of dan lok, tony robbin, gary v ......
 
i would argue that Tate didn't work for anything, he was given a high iq by his grandfather (who played chess at a pro level)
 
>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.
No woman will ever feel the natural and primal attraction towards a rich statusmaxxed recessed baldcel she would feel towards the next door Chad

Of corse the other shit matters as well but nothing makes up for a lack of looks


And Tate is coping extremely hard with „a man can’t just have the looks, he needs more than that“
This is literally gigacope. If you are 6‘5 Tyler Maher you are set for life. Nothing needed more
 
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Because men and woman aren't equal and shouldn't be used in the same metric regarding sex.
that didn’t disprove my point lol..

You guys want to be slayers but expect chicks to be virgins???

You do realize… everytime you smash a chick you just added +1 to her body count :lul:
 
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that didn’t disprove my point lol..

You guys want to be slayers but expect chicks to be virgins???

You do realize… everytime you smash a chick you just added +1 to her body count :lul:
I don’t expect all woman to be traditional. There’s always going to be whores and good girls.
 
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There’s always going to be whores and good girls.
No lol they're all the same bro

The same girl who made X wait is the same chick who smashed X2 after meeting him after an hour
 
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No lol they're all the same bro

The same girl who made X wait is the same chick who smashed X2 after meeting him after an hour
Yes I agree this is the "rule" but there are exceptions no doubt.
 
read everything boyos...dissapointed in a lot of you ....lol at "men and women are equal" bs.....i will destroy your copes tomorrow...too tired rn for this bs :feelskek:
 
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read everything boyos...dissapointed in a lot of you ....lol at "men and women are equal" bs.....i will destroy your copes tomorrow...too tired rn for this bs :feelskek:
Na, bro, destroy already
 
This is all my own opinion btw. Everyone’s to each their own

There’s no such thing as high quality woman.. woman don’t come out the womb “high quality” unless you’re just talking about looks.. but that’s surface level mindset

You make her high quality based on your own standards & how she benefits your life & your program

Even if you’re doing everything right in the LTR there’s nothing you can do to stop her urges / impulses

It has nothing to do with you. It’s based off her own selfish desires

You cannot control women, you can only influence, guide & lead them

So if she cheats don’t get mad lol understand it what was out of her own selfish desire & charge her to the game


How will you test whether or not she’s has a one night stand before you met her?

How do you know she’s not putting on an act just to get you to like her more & possibly secure an LTR?

Unless you’re EXCLUSIVELY dating virgins, most chicks have already had some form of a ONS.. whether she was drunk or it was a regular hookup

And if you’re smart & have self awareness any guy would steer away from women who get drunk on a weekly basis & is eliminated from the LTR vetting process

Her attachment & emotions to you lol

Have we not seen Love Island?

New chads come in the villa, some girls turn others didn’t why? Because they’re already attached & have an emotional bond to the guy they’re with

Exhibit A: Tasha & Andrew vs Charlie

Its the same way how you made your night out thread where you met this chick who would’ve cheated on her bf with you

Her DESIRE to cheat on her bf with YOU was more important than losing the LTR

And she was probably not even that sexually / behaviorally attracted to him in the first place so that’ll make it worse

It all goes back to selfishness.

This whole “Chad will come in & steal your gf” is a meme.. unless you’re the most beta, needy, feminine bitch ass nigga she’s ever met :pepefrown:

Inb4 cope, you’re :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:, it’s all about looks

@Gargantuan delete any derailing comments if needed
Their fathers help to mold them into high value women of character, not you. The prevalence of single mothers is the root of society's degradation today.
 
All the more reason we need to normalize patrolling these thotties again tbh.
 
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The Tate bros are liars and scammers, and apparently their ‘self help’ courses are a massive pyramid scheme.

With that said, I’d extend OP’s claim and say that women in general (not even just ‘Western’… don’t think EE or SEA women are being nice to you for anything but your money) for anything serious are a write-off.
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

Op cope more, muh self made. Success is destiny. Hard work can come from both genders. Cringe ngl and i’m not feminist.
 
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Op cope more, muh self made. Success is destiny. Hard work can come from both genders. Cringe ngl and i’m not feminist.
Having everything handed to you by virtue of having a vagina is destiny? :feelsuhh:
 
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Having everything handed to you by virtue of having a vagina is destiny? :feelsuhh:
Not everyone does that nowadays at all cuz muh independancy and i hate foids for this but its how society should be if traditional
 
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Great video.
Tate hit the nail on the head here.

It's a good thing that Tate is becoming a huge figure now within the manosphere which he is obviously trying to take over.

Every famous podcast/interview he is going to do now will bring in a large crowd that won't stand for all of the anti-male rhetoric that gets pushed around.
 
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they will ruin your fucking social life by accusing you of shit you never did (being a creep, sexual shit) etc etc etc. It
I gotta disagree,it all boils down to your image,if u have a good one then even ur biggest enemy can't do shit about it.protect ur image at all cost.i was the kind of guy that used to abuse girls and call them names all the time but u know what?many girls defended me and didn't give two shits about it.boys naturally laughed it off with me and supported me.its easy to malign women than u think,u just gotta play the hoe card at perfect moment and everyone will believe you.
 
Finally, all this is part of the plan to destroy advanced western societies.
It's already destroyed mate,u have faggots and pedophiles roaming freely.womrn whore around whenever they want and neglecting her children when they require her mother.no sense of promoting intellectualness but promoting whoreness among teenage girls.making boys think that being weak is a good trait and u must submit to the will of women.

its over for west boys,everyday it's economy becomes shittier with recession and inflation.everyday more foreign men come there to their jobs and fuck their woman.not much tin left before Muslims take over the west and behead the whores in there and punish the faggots and simp.

the west is a lost cause
 
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It's already destroyed mate,u have faggots and pedophiles roaming freely.womrn whore around whenever they want and neglecting her children when they require her mother.no sense of promoting intellectualness but promoting whoreness among teenage girls.making boys think that being weak is a good trait and u must submit to the will of women.

its over for west boys,everyday it's economy becomes shittier with recession and inflation.everyday more foreign men come there to their jobs and fuck their woman.not much tin left before Muslims take over the west and behead the whores in there and punish the faggots and simp.

the west is a lost cause
it is ; based; but faggots arent the pb, the women are and their nastiness and these :bluepill: beta simps, which constitutes 99% of western "men"
 
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My only issue is you can’t expect women to have low body counts if every guy is trying to slay
Depends on the ration of females to males, the higher the ratio, the more women one can fuck without all of them having a high body count.
 
women in general (not even just ‘Western’… don’t think EE or SEA women are being nice to you for anything but your money) for anything serious are a write-off.
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]In the sixties, talk of a "war between the sexes" was very popular. In
point of fact, what was being described was not a war at all, merely
the recognition of a change in the balance that had previously existed
between the two sexes. The grip of man's domination was loosening, and
women rushed forward to take advantage of the situation. The natural
relationship which had hitherto existed between man and woman was put
under increasing strain by the shift in balance and was rapidly
evolving into an ever-more-adversarial coalition.
But war?
War is the variety of violence which one traditionally resorts to when
all other means of asserting his dominance have been exhausted. There
was no war between the sexes in the sixties simply because man had
long since ceased to assert his dominance by any means. It is
precisely this male backsliding which gave rise to the tension which
was misconstrued as war, and which has grown steadily worse until
today. Perhaps a war will be necessary to bridge the abyss across
which the sexes stare mistrustingly at each other.
- Harry P. Ness[/COLOR]

I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam
 
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Read every word.

But andrew tate still needs to fix his jaw and hair.

Jfl at letting your brother mog you so hard.

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Tate has put himself in a catch -22. He ought to looksmax and surgerymax, but now that he is a public figure he can't do it without people noticing and calling him insecure.
 
I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
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I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

He laughs at the idea of 5'7 male being Alfa, I laugh at idea of recessed male being sexy
 
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I’m sure some of you have seen the latest episode of Stand Out TV by now. In case you haven’t seen it and are interested in watching it before reading the thread, here’s the link:

If you’re not familiar with what this show is about, in a nutshell, it’s about this chick named Chian who goes on these fake dates with various high-profile men who are public figures. She asks them a bunch of questions (stupid shit, really) trying to assess how ‘worthy’ he is to the modern female (jfl at that).
In this particular episode, she hosted none other than Andrew Tate, with whom most of you on the forum I assume are familiar.

Disclaimer: I’m not going to summarize what was said in the video, I’m merely going to give my reflections on the bigger picture.

A quick glance over the comments section will have you believe that Tate ‘destroyed’ her and largely made her look foolish in front of the public. Having watched the video in its entirety, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with those statements.
HOWEVER, this may not be a good thing and here’s why:

To start off, this video truly epitomizes the modern-day battle of the sexes. The men tuning in will be cheering on Andrew Tate, presumably believing that this will embolden more men to stand up against women.
And yet, I couldn’t help but think that this isn’t going to change the minds of women and it might in fact make things WORSE.

If anything, they are going to double down because they have the weight of the establishment and the media on their side.
Additionally, what’s worth noting is how disrespectful this girl is towards Andrew Tate. Meanwhile, Tate is actually being very respectful to her as an individual. And yet, she doesn’t afford him the same level of respect.

Who is Andrew Tate and why is this significant?
  • A multimillionaire, not the spoon-fed kind but the SELF-MADE kind
  • A successful businessman, for which he has had to work his ass off
  • A former kickboxing world champion
  • A high-value male altogether
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>>B-b-but Tate has a recessed jaw, a bad eye area and is bald so, therefore, he cannot be seen as high value!! :soy:-> I will not be entertaining any retards in this thread who use this type of rhetoric, thinking that ONLY looks matter and have little/no clue of how the actual world works.

>>B-b-but if Tate had looked like prime Chico or Gandy she wouldn’t have disrespected him!! :feelsuhh:-> same thing applies here
But even if that were the case in your stupid hypothetical scenario, that’s not the point, you retard.


The point is that her behaviour/attitude sends a message to the (female) audience because the reality of things is that here we have a female who will never understand the blood, sweat and tears that it takes for a man (who isn’t genetically gifted) to become high-value and yet she still OPENLY disrespects him.

Meanwhile, as a woman, you only need to look somewhat pretty (make-up can do wonders, even for bang-average-looking chicks:blackpill:) and barely be able to string a sentence together to be perceived as high-value. This way, you can get MASSIVE on social media, get lots of money etc. with NO talent required whatsoever.

So now it’s seen as NORMAL for girls to talk disrespectfully to guys who have literally worked a million times harder than they will ever have to work in their lives.
Realistically speaking, it is absurd how a tramp of a woman like that can even sit at the same table with someone like Andrew Tate.

>>B-b-but all of this can be circumvented if you’re good-looking because when girls find you attractive they won’t disrespect you and you’ll still be seen as high-value!! :soy:

WRONG!

Even chads like Amnesia, someone 99% of users here will NEVER even get close to in terms of looks, get openly disrespected by women too, as is evident in the threads he makes.
>>It’s because he’s an aspie and non-NT :feelsuhh:
>>It’s because he’s a frauding manlet :soy:
>>It’s because he doesn’t have the latest iPhone :feelsuhh::soy:


No, you retards, it’s because modern western women are a total fucking WRITE-OFF. It has always amazed me how on a blackpilled forum of all places, more and more users are blaming MEN for not conforming whilst simultaneously performing all sorts of mental gymnastics as to why a guy gets rejected or can’t get laid when the problem in this day and age has always been women’s insane entitlement.

You cannot expect to constantly be able to appease a group of individuals whose accountability goes unchecked, as is the case with western women. As long as men don't hold women to a certain standard, this will continue to be the case.

If you want to succeed in the modern dating scene in the west, you have to adapt to survive to a certain extent, sure, I get that, but please draw the line somewhere for your sanity and have some fucking integrity.

Nothing makes me cringe more than these guys who beat themselves up because they didn’t meet some whore’s insane standards, jfl. It's not easy out there and a lot of men are deprived, this is true, but there's more to life than chasing after some low-life tramps.
If you know what you’re worth then go get what you’re worth and the reality of that is that most of these absolute tramps in the west should not be worthy of YOUR time, not the other way round.

Unless you are looking to slay until the day you die, what you should be looking for instead is a REAL high-value woman. Most men don’t care about how much money a woman makes, they care about if she’s a HOE or not.
Tate touched upon this issue multiple times throughout the video and raised an interesting point on how male-female relations in the west could potentially be fixed if females had their body counts displayed on their foreheads:


>>B-b-but why is it okay for men to sleep around with lots of women?
View attachment 1757346
I hear women use this argument all the time.
This is hilarious to me because, in reality, women will look at a man and if he’s good-looking, makes loads of money, lives a nice lifestyle, is of high status etc. but has also slept with 300 women, a lot of them will still go for this guy, even if nothing comes of it in the long term.

But no man worth anything would even dream of being with a woman who has slept with 300 men :sick:. She has devalued herself completely, even if she is a multimillionaire.
Promiscuity has always been a masculine trait, things are different for men and women and this is another thing that women can’t seem to grasp when you try to explain it to them.

So why is all of this a problem, you may ask?

Well, as I had already mentioned previously, it’s the fact that even high-value men have to put up with tramp-like characters like this Chian in the west who will openly disrespect them while bringing nothing to the table themselves.
So, even if you ascend, in terms of looks, money and/or status, the vast majority of women you will have at your disposal will still be utter TRASH.

Tradwives are basically unicorns at this point in the west, but they are still your best bet if you ever wish to settle down.
Naturally, a male looks for nurturing qualities in a female. However, modern females, like this dumb bitch in the video seem to think that being a career woman constitutes a high-value woman :lul:
If a man wants to settle down, he should look for someone who isn’t going to compete for his position because everyone can’t play the same position at the end of the day.
So, whenever you hear this woman or any woman for that matter, talking about being a ‘’team’’ of ‘’equals’’, you know that she’s a total write-off and that things will never work out between the two of you in the long term.

Mutual dependency is key. When the woman depends on you (for a lot), then the relationship can work. If not, forget about ever happily settling down with a woman, she's not high-value.

Tagging some users who might have already watched this episode and/or are interested in reading/discussing the subject matter at hand:
@tyronelite @alriodai @whiteissuperior @Nameless_Sunflower @volcelfatcel @looksmaxxer234 @Mouthbreath @currylightskin @Afrikancel @vanilla @subhuman incel @Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Baldingman1998 @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @RAITEIII @Preston @TsarTsar444 @Hades @Vietnam

I'm voluntary virgin and women still go for me for looks not guys who fucked

Money and status can't buy physical attraction
 
Tate says womens only value is to “spiritually protect” men:lul:
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wow ngl im desensitized cuz all I got from this video is "retard red pill coper argues with retard feminist coper" and I just chuckled at it.

But my thoughts on this thread?


this is the prime male delusion.

"If I work enough, accumulate enough resources, I'll be high value!!!"
Wrong! Value is not determined by how much you work. There are people who work 80 hours a week at McDonalds and are low value. Just because you work and make resources doesn't make you high value.

Some things can not be bought or worked for. Particularly, genes and reproductive success. No matter how hard you work, women will always be more valuable than men because they are essentially guaranteed to reproduce and thus have evolutionary success. And you are not guaranteed this same opportunity, historically. In fact, historically having a chubby low tier Becky daughter probably has a higher average evolutionary payoff than a Maher tier son.

The entire human condition comes down to survival and reproduction. You as a man, even as Chad, spend your whole life compensating for the fact that you have low reproductive value. So no, andrew tate is not "high value". It is perfectly normal through all of human history that a slightly above average looking young woman is equivalent to rulers of nations and millionaires. You can't have enough resources or work your way into being reproductively valuable, which is the most important thing. The only men who are higher value than the average woman are literal king tier men, like Drake in modern times, or literal emperors thousands of years ago
I can TAKE her reproductive value :feelshmm: it is very easy to do :feelshmm:

in modern days with humans everywhere the bottleneck is not how many babies you can shit out, it is if you can feed them and house them all :feelshmm: why do you think it is women that brought the dowry? :feelshmm::tiny:
 
shut up...tate is a G
 
Sigma grindset this sigma grindset that, no amount of grifting internet dads like Andrew Tate will save the sub-5 manlets of this generation
 
I would have loved to see a discussion between Tate and Kevin Samuels.
RIP the king for real..
 
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Yes you can

A high quality woman should have the ability to say no, especially to good looking guys. You want a girl that can resist primal urges and impulses.

I will legit outright refuse to LTR a girl who’s had a one night stand, even if this excludes 99% of my options. If a girl can give in when she’s drunk or horny, a decision fuelled purely by lust, what’s stopping her from doing it again with someone who mogs you.

This is why I went clubbing with my gf before we were together (as feiends) numerous times to see how she reacts when chads approach her

I have said this before and I’ll say it again

99% of modern women are not fit for an LTR. If you find a unicorn, LTR her if not, keep slaying

Never settle when it comes to a relationship

Going clubbing with her proved nothing. If she liked you then why would she get with another guy in front of you?
 
The video was impossible to watch because how can you sit there and listen to a woman giving her opinions on this type of shit like shes some kind of authority you should respect. I skimmed and the guy was making points in a retarded way. She is the kind of girl who would have a 100 guy slay count and expect a man to be cool with that. She's ethnic so it's highly likely that she throws herself at white guys. It's probably the case that if you could see the amount of ugly white guys she's fucked you'd be surprised.
 
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He's also blue pilled on looks theory. Maher is a high value man if hes homeless.
 
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Going clubbing with her proved nothing. If she liked you then why would she get with another guy in front of you?
She didn't like me, we'd just met and were housemates
 
is this an advertisment? i don´t have to even watch any of his shit to know that hes a bs artist.
 
Andrew Tate is a recessed subhuman on steroids

Recession
 
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