HOW TO GO FROM SUBHUMAN TO AN 8/9 WITHOUT SURGERY [LooksMaxxing Guide]

[metagross]

okay thanks for helping me understand but these things are what make the high status and good looking guys in my country. UK. and I'm 20 and white. Just telling you guys how to actually look good/cool. your all obsessed with bone smashing and facial surgerys. if you did that in my area youd become instantly isolated and bullied for the rest of your life. its weird.

I feel like im the only normal one on here

Shut the fuck up. Most surgeries aren't even noticed. Only things like botox and lip fillers. Guarantee that almost no one with reasonable zygo implants or jaw implants was ever caught in real life.
The only people who could maybe recognize it are looks-obsessed forum users from here.

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Shut the fuck up. Most surgeries aren't even noticed. Only things like botox and lip fillers. Guarantee that almost no one with reasonable zygo implants or jaw implants was ever caught in real life.
The only people who could maybe recognize it are looks-obsessed forum users from here.

from what ive seen they look weird. but im new to this blackpill looksmaxxing shit and a lot of you guys seem to be into it so there must be some good cases where its worked well. but i feel like its hard to define a beautiful face. 1 feature might make one face but destroy another face.

 

[Umbra]

OP is 5'4 , i know him

 

[karbo]

this was a shit thread unfortunately

 

[ApolloAurius]

 

[Deleted member 14138]

Hi guys, just joined the forum. I've been redpill for a while and looksmaxing for a while without realising theres a community dedicated to it.

So I am going to give you guys everything I have worked out so far and what I am doing myself. (some of these are looks and status)

Also dont say that im 'coping' by doing all of these things. I'm simply improving myself like we all are.

Also apologies for the lack of writing effort, grammar, bad spelling etc. I hope the content makes up for it

Also (x3) These are the things that have been helpful to me, some things may not be for all of you. And maxing out on each aspect for years will give you the results.

1. Height -
Obviously not much you can do if your short. I've noticed most short men in my life get disrespected and less girls. A 5'4 guy I met that gets A LOT of girls & respect is my muay thai teacher, he sorted his looks out and puts on a masculine demeanour and is obviously very good at fighting. Would beat up most 6ft men. This is an example of someone who has made up for his DEFECIT.
Also height insoles are good. I've tried all different sizes. I noticed any more than 1.5 inches and it becomes REALLY obvious and embarrassing. Also don't wear them with shorts. I prefer to wear them when I'm wearing tracksuit bottoms/jeans that cover the ankle.

2. Tan
Obviously doesnt apply to people of colour. I think some people dont realise that being pale is very very ugly. I am naturally quite pale and I am a 6 without a tan. And with a dark tan I feel like a 9. I got my best looking girlfriends when I had a dark tan. But have you ever noticed a white person that should be pale due to lack of sun but still somehow has an attractive yellowy glow? That's because of them naturally getting b-carotene from a great diet or taking the supplement b-carotene. I take this and after a week or two it gets into your system and you look a lot healthier even if you are pale. Make sure you buy one that has near to the maximum daily dosage tablets. Glow from B-carotene supplement + Tan from sunbeds = you look fucking good. Personally I am low on money and don't like to pay so much at the sunbed shops so I spent £150 on a sunbed from ebay. It came with tubes that had almost ran out so I bought some more tubes for £100 and fit them myself(easy to do from youtube). With the sunbed you need to do it a lot at the start then just maintain obviously. Personally I just tan arms, face and back of neck as I like to be safe. It just makes you look like you've got a roofers tan which I don't mind. My face goes from a 5 to what feels like a 9 depending on how dark my tan is. I also use these scerlacontacts blindfold black contacts. These are instead of using goggles to protect eyes(as they leave ridiculous looking white circles round ur eyes) They're basically blacked out contacts that helps protect your eyes from the sunbed.

3. Clothing max
Noticed this from when I was about 12. Clothing is important. Designer is good. Everything doesn't need to be designer but a good combination is an unbranded fit with 1 designer item per outfit. Stand out designer pieces I've noticed are gucci/lv belts, gucci caps, etc. Also I get my clothes tailored and you should too. Get them to make your upper half clothes fit quite tight, showing off the v-taper, chest and arms. I personally hate skinny bottoms and they look gay as fuck. I keep all bottoms straight leg/cut but obviously not too wide and baggy. Just not skinny or slim bottoms. I get this done for £10 per item at a tailors 20 drive mins from me in a poorer area.

4. Eyebrows
Something that girls obsess over for good reason. The ideal brow is a slightly downward pointing brow like hunter eyes. Thick dark brows. If your brows are light like mine(im blonde) then dye them dark brown. If your eyebrows arent fully grown in and not thick. Use minoxidil and dermaroll them. I personally dont think plucking them looks good. I try to look as manly as possible and I think plucking is very obvious to everyone. Also there are exercises you can do to get the downwards hunter eyes brow. Dont squintmax its ridiculous and everyone can tell your doing it.

5. Beard/mustache
Important to look like a man. No neckbeards. If you have a neckbeard (i have a half neckbeard, but my cheeks are coming through) then please do not fucking grow it. See whether you prefer clean shaven or a bit of stuble. Also tash is good. mine was light blonde and since I dyed that light brown it has added so much more feature to my face. If you've got a neckbeard, you want to use minoxidil and dermaroll regularly, you can work this out yourself if you dont already know. You NEED a cheekbeard.

Also get an electric shaver and shape up your beard and mustache. The first few times is difficult but you get used creating the right shape through trial and error.

6. Instagram profile maxing.
I had 800 followers a few months ago. I have 10k now. Status has increased massively. There is a massive different in DMing girls while I had 800 followers to 10k. It increases my status, they know more girls are gonna want me just due to pure numbers. & girls even message me sometimes if I'm posting good pictures/good lifestyle/ something funny. A girl being on your instagram is like a marketing funnel. You can nurture your 10k girls to think of you a good looking, muscley, popular, funny guy. Even if your not 100%.

HOW I GREW TO 10K: Instas follow limit is 200 per day. DO NOT GO OVER THAT AS YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND ON THEIR RADAR FOR WEEKS AFTER. I follow 100 in the morning and 100 at night. I find girls in my area and go on their followers and follow hundreds of their friends, also I've noticed girls mostly follow boys and boys mostly follow girls so: go on a girls insta, find a decent looking boy, follow his likes and followers.
From following 200 girls in 1 day, I will get 70-110 followers back(depending on luck) I also split test which profile pictures get the most follows back. (proper nerded this shit out). When I accept these new followers I like 1 picture of each girl, if they like back (roughly 20 will) I will DM the ones I like the most. Also if I do this, I will usually get 1 girl DM and try to talk to me first just because of pure numbers. Once I hit 7k followING, I'll unfollow 4000 manually - 100 per day. and repeat.
I did this until I got to about 7k active girl instagram followers. I just botted 3k followers from a site called smmfollows to get myself to 10k. I will now continue following girls and no one will notice the 3k botted as 1. no one cares 2. new girls who have followed me are at the top of my following list 3. my account is still very active and my likes on pictures are high.

7. Dating maxing
To be honest the last few months I have been focusing hard on gym and business so not much time for girls. But when I do want to find a girl, I will. (even being not the best looking guy)
Personally I dont cold approach as I dont go out much and not got the confidence yet. But online cold approach is just fine. I believe it is 1. a CONSISTENT numbers game. DM 5 girls per day for a year and try to NOT have a girlfriend. 2. being socially calibrated/funny 3. actually put effort into these girls conversations. if they are giving 1 word replies. get the hint. but if theyre answering questions well but maybe not asking about yourself. I've noticed they will start doing that after a long conversation OR lets say you asked where theyre from and they just said florida, you can say speak about it for a sec and then say- 'are you not going to ask me where im from?' 4. one thing ive noticed is due to the pure amount of DMs average looking girls get, a lot will give you 1 word replies to shit-test you as low confidence guys wouldnt continue persueing. but you also need to try to get their attention straight away, try to avoid the basic 'how are you, where u from, what u do from work' conversations. maybe use some of those questions + make observations about her profile and tease her. I've attached a good example below from the other day. 5. TINDER: make a female profile first and realise the dynamic and how girls see tinder. Scroll through profiles and find the best bios & read your messages and see the best lines guys have used on this fake girl, and steal them. Also buy the premium tinder membership to get boosts. 6. dont try to meet them straight away. its weird imo. maybe meet after a week of speaking. Also they wont go on a date with you IF YOU DONT ASK. so try. if it doesnt work, try again, maybe shes resisting because she doesnt want to be easy. but you have to be calibrated enough to realise if its because shes not into you. 6. FACETIME. I think facetime or a phone call makes it more real for her, she realises you are a person. shes replying to loads of DMs, but not every boy is facetiming her, she will put more effort into the convo over the phone and you can let eachothers personalities shine a lot more.

8. Hair maxing
Most looksmaxers ive seen in a discord chat I'm in dont have a skinfade or a good haircut. Wtf. this is one of the most important things. You NEED to be getting regular skinfades. Not fades. Skinfades. It can make your face go from a 5 to a 7 somehow, it just changes you. I am so addicted to having the fade that over the last year, I bought clippers and a 360 mirror and skinfade myself once per week. Learning from youtube & trial and error. I'd genuinely say I can now do a better fade than my barber and I can do it exactly how I like it. I would recommend going to the barbers every few months just to perfect the top.

Also I'm using ketoconizil shampoo to prevent balding the best I can as I'm prone to it as my dad is bald.

9. Business/money maxing
(ignore if you already have a good job/business) Best business to be in right now is ecommerce. can work from anywhere, booming market, easy to get into. Just start a microbrand learn basic structure of the business from Samir Chibane and then use youtube to learn dropshipping methods or source the products yourself. I have a brand myself and I enjoy every day perfecting the product, sms marketing, instagram, google shopping ads, fb retargetting ads, email marketing. Easiest business to scale to high numbers. Peoples lives can change within 1 month. But it may take a year + to get that 1 month where you get winning products and make a lot of money

10. Natural testosterone maxing
I've heard icing your testicles for 20 mins 3x per day increases test by 20%. Makes you more manly and you can lift more at the gym+ more muscle. I dont do this yet but when i get less busy I'm going to put this into my dail schedule. (youtube & google for more info on this)

11. Gym
Obvious - personally I'm on a few year long bulk as I used to be a broomstick looking ass. I eat high cals, high protein, focus on compound movements and lift heavy.

12. bad man maxing
I'd say girls like a more bad looking man. To do this, you need to be not pale, have the hunter eyes, wear intimidating clothes, know how to fight, maybe a masculine short haircut, tattoos etc. If it isn't you then dont worry

13. Martial arts maxing
Essential for every man to have the ability for violence. "its better to be a warrior in a garden, than be a gardener in a war". Join a boxing/mma/muay thai/kickboxing gym. You meet friends there, more masculine personalities rub off on you etc.

14. surgery
Dont do it. It's weird. No face surgery has ever looked good apart from a minor nose job. That is the 1 thing that I believe is a cope. I guarantee you can get to at least a 7 with all of the things in this thread maxed out.

15. jewellery
A nice gold chain, gold ring, gold bracelet I feel like adds to your personality. Also a nice pair of sunglasses is essential. Makes you look cool.

16. Tattoos
Another thing that adds personality. I recommend a full body realism piece and look at paying £700+ per day to the best artist within a 2 hour drive from you. You only get 1 chance. Also most of the ASOS models are fully tatted head to toe, I think that shows that it is a good style. It may not be for everyone though. Personally I have a realism lion on my hand, realism forearm. A small cross tattoo on my face just under my eye and a script writing tattoo on the side of my head.
Good tattoos DEFINITELY increase your status massively imo.

Now skim over all of these points and imagine yourself maxed out on each one and tell me you wont look good and have high status.
Hope this helps.

Ive never seen so much ADHD on the internet before this in my entire life.

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Ive never seen so much ADHD on the internet before this in my entire life.

How is my post ADHD? Plus you play runescape at 25 years old

 

[Deleted member 14138]

How is my post ADHD? Plus you play runescape at 25 years old

Its just too much bull shit for me to handle. The testicle icing thing was funny but its still stupid tbh. And all the coping in this is just too much. I mean common, bad man maxing? What the hell did you get that from? Just say hunter eyes or something.

 

[irrumator praetor]

people of colour

Niggers

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Its just too much bull shit for me to handle. The testicle icing thing was funny but its still stupid tbh. And all the coping in this is just too much. I mean common, bad man maxing? What the hell did you get that from? Just say hunter eyes or something.

Ah okay understood. Maybe focus on a few things at a time, thats what ive done. and its not coping, its just improving your looks. & lol what else was I meant to call the bad man maxxing section, but u cant deny that its something girls are attracted to

 

[thecel]

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[randomuser2407]

Funny how OP does all this hard work just to get laid while there are guys on here who get laid consistently on Tinder just because they are gymmaxxed even though they have a very average looking face.

Also, talking to a girl for 1 week on Tinder without meeting her in person is stupid and something that only simps do, it doesn't increase your chance of getting laid, it just wastes your time. Time that could have been spent improving your looks.

Instagram followers don't really matter because women will rely on how you look to decide if you're worth meeting, they don't care about your number of followers unless you're a famous influencer, so faking fame isn't going to help with much, and it will require you to explain to women how you got so many followers, which you won't be able to explain anyways.

Tattoos won't make you look more alpha if you're a DYEL, and if you're muscular, tattoos aren't even necessary. Getting tattoos won't make you look dark triad, only your personality can do that and you can't fake being dark triad anyways.

Ecommerce/Dropshipping is a scam. How do you expect people will find your business? And even if they do find it, what will compel them to buy your products instead of going on Amazon? Be realistic here, you're not going to make money from that.

Honestly, to me, you just sound like a naive 16 year old and I know because you're similar to how I was at that age, I thought that there were well kept secrets on how to be successful in life but the truth is that it's all about hard work, not searching for secret solutions because there aren't any. You can't buy the rewards of hard labour you can only earn them by working hard on specific goals that make you improve yourself

Reading books and searching for special solutions doesn't count as working on yourself. Instead you should be lifting heavy weights, eating right, sleeping enough hours every day, working on a new skill, getting a job in a field that you are good at and making money from that, and going out sometimes to do fun activities that allow you to meet people. It took me years to learn all of this, because for so long, I was acting in a very similar way to you because I thought that there was a shortcut, but there really isn't one.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Funny how OP does all this hard work just to get laid while there are guys on here who get laid consistently on Tinder just because they are gymmaxxed even though they have a very average looking face.

GymMaxxers United

"We're all gonna make it, brah" - Zyzz



Go to the Gym

 

[studiocel]

Not a bad thread but drop shipping seems like a total meme.

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Funny how OP does all this hard work just to get laid while there are guys on here who get laid consistently on Tinder just because they are gymmaxxed even though they have a very average looking face.

Also, talking to a girl for 1 week on Tinder without meeting her in person is stupid and something that only simps do, it doesn't increase your chance of getting laid, it just wastes your time. Time that could have been spent improving your looks.

Instagram followers don't really matter because women will rely on how you look to decide if you're worth meeting, they don't care about your number of followers unless you're a famous influencer, so faking fame isn't going to help with much, and it will require you to explain to women how you got so many followers, which you won't be able to explain anyways.

Tattoos won't make you look more alpha if you're a DYEL, and if you're muscular, tattoos aren't even necessary. Getting tattoos won't make you look dark triad, only your personality can do that and you can't fake being dark triad anyways.

Ecommerce/Dropshipping is a scam. How do you expect people will find your business? And even if they do find it, what will compel them to buy your products instead of going on Amazon? Be realistic here, you're not going to make money from that.

Honestly, to me, you just sound like a naive 16 year old and I know because you're similar to how I was at that age, I thought that there were well kept secrets on how to be successful in life but the truth is that it's all about hard work, not searching for secret solutions because there aren't any. You can't buy the rewards of hard labour you can only earn them by working hard on specific goals that make you improve yourself

Reading books and searching for special solutions doesn't count as working on yourself. Instead you should be lifting heavy weights, eating right, sleeping enough hours every day, working on a new skill, getting a job in a field that you are good at and making money from that, and going out sometimes to do fun activities that allow you to meet people. It took me years to learn all of this, because for so long, I was acting in a very similar way to you because I thought that there was a shortcut, but there really isn't one.

u just made some pretty shit arguments to my points. Also you dont know shit about ecommerce clearly and stupid to think it doesnt work. 'how do you expect people to find your business?' google and facebook ads? same as every other business?
'and even if they do find it what will compel them to buy your product instead of going on amazon?' silly statement, everyone buys things off google
'youre not going to make money from that?' I already do? lmao

u just sound like a loser tbh, and have fun being a slave to someone elses company

 

[randomuser2407]

u just made some pretty shit arguments to my points. Also you dont know shit about ecommerce clearly and stupid to think it doesnt work. 'how do you expect people to find your business?' google and facebook ads? same as every other business?
'and even if they do find it what will compel them to buy your product instead of going on amazon?' silly statement, everyone buys things off google
'youre not going to make money from that?' I already do? lmao

u just sound like a loser tbh, and have fun being a slave to someone elses company

Watch this:



This guy has a bachelor's degree in economics and a successful online business and he says the exact same thing that I told you.

There is no secret way to get rich, and dropshipping is just another scam. The guys like Anton Kraly and Johnny FD make money from their scam courses about dropshipping, not their dropshipping websites, and of course, their income reports are obviously faked.
The reason why their scam works is because there are people who make minimum wage who are as naive as you who are willing to pay enormous amounts of money just in the hope of getting lucky and making millions, but the real world doesn't work like that. I know because I have been obsessed with dropshipping in the past, in 2016, when I was 18 years old, and I didn't give them any money, thankfully.

The best advice I can give you is to find a subject that you are good at (not what you are interested in) and major in that field in college and your job will be way easier than what most people are doing and if it is a lucrative field, you will make lots of money by doing something that is easy for you. For me, that would be working on computers solving technical problems, and, when I'll be qualified enough, programming and solving problems in code. I wish that someone had told me this back when I was 16 because I wasted so many years in jobs that I was really bad at and got fired every single time and I thought that there was something wrong with me but the truth is that I was just in the wrong field of work, because most people aren't as skilled with computers as I am.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Funny how OP does all this hard work just to get laid while there are guys on here who get laid consistently on Tinder just because they are gymmaxxed even though they have a very average looking face.

Also, talking to a girl for 1 week on Tinder without meeting her in person is stupid and something that only simps do, it doesn't increase your chance of getting laid, it just wastes your time. Time that could have been spent improving your looks.

Instagram followers don't really matter because women will rely on how you look to decide if you're worth meeting, they don't care about your number of followers unless you're a famous influencer, so faking fame isn't going to help with much, and it will require you to explain to women how you got so many followers, which you won't be able to explain anyways.

Tattoos won't make you look more alpha if you're a DYEL, and if you're muscular, tattoos aren't even necessary. Getting tattoos won't make you look dark triad, only your personality can do that and you can't fake being dark triad anyways.

Ecommerce/Dropshipping is a scam. How do you expect people will find your business? And even if they do find it, what will compel them to buy your products instead of going on Amazon? Be realistic here, you're not going to make money from that.

Honestly, to me, you just sound like a naive 16 year old and I know because you're similar to how I was at that age, I thought that there were well kept secrets on how to be successful in life but the truth is that it's all about hard work, not searching for secret solutions because there aren't any. You can't buy the rewards of hard labour you can only earn them by working hard on specific goals that make you improve yourself

Reading books and searching for special solutions doesn't count as working on yourself. Instead you should be lifting heavy weights, eating right, sleeping enough hours every day, working on a new skill, getting a job in a field that you are good at and making money from that, and going out sometimes to do fun activities that allow you to meet people. It took me years to learn all of this, because for so long, I was acting in a very similar way to you because I thought that there was a shortcut, but there really isn't one.

Watch this:



This guy has a bachelor's degree in economics and a successful online business and he says the exact same thing that I told you.

There is no secret way to get rich, and dropshipping is just another scam. The guys like Anton Kraly and Johnny FD make money from their scam courses about dropshipping, not their dropshipping websites, and of course, their income reports are obviously faked.
The reason why their scam works is because there are people who make minimum wage who are as naive as you who are willing to pay enormous amounts of money just in the hope of getting lucky and making millions, but the real world doesn't work like that. I know because I have been obsessed with dropshipping in the past, in 2016, when I was 18 years old, and I didn't give them any money, thankfully.

The best advice I can give you is to find a subject that you are good at (not what you are interested in) and major in that field in college and your job will be way easier than what most people are doing and if it is a lucrative field, you will make lots of money by doing something that is easy for you. For me, that would be working on computers solving technical problems, and, when I'll be qualified enough, programming and solving problems in code. I wish that someone had told me this back when I was 16 because I wasted so many years in jobs that I was really bad at and got fired every single time and I thought that there was something wrong with me but the truth is that I was just in the wrong field of work, because most people aren't as skilled with computers as I am.

thoughts @StrangerDanger

 

[Spinc]

Lots of good stuff.

I have some questions about Instagram maxxing. What kind of photos do you post? How can you consistently post photos that make your lifestyle look good without running out of ideas? Is it possible to be too try hard (e.g. always posting girls, extreme sports, expensive stuff, etc)?

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Watch this:



This guy has a bachelor's degree in economics and a successful online business and he says the exact same thing that I told you.

There is no secret way to get rich, and dropshipping is just another scam. The guys like Anton Kraly and Johnny FD make money from their scam courses about dropshipping, not their dropshipping websites, and of course, their income reports are obviously faked.
The reason why their scam works is because there are people who make minimum wage who are as naive as you who are willing to pay enormous amounts of money just in the hope of getting lucky and making millions, but the real world doesn't work like that. I know because I have been obsessed with dropshipping in the past, in 2016, when I was 18 years old, and I didn't give them any money, thankfully.

The best advice I can give you is to find a subject that you are good at (not what you are interested in) and major in that field in college and your job will be way easier than what most people are doing and if it is a lucrative field, you will make lots of money by doing something that is easy for you. For me, that would be working on computers solving technical problems, and, when I'll be qualified enough, programming and solving problems in code. I wish that someone had told me this back when I was 16 because I wasted so many years in jobs that I was really bad at and got fired every single time and I thought that there was something wrong with me but the truth is that I was just in the wrong field of work, because most people aren't as skilled with computers as I am.

To be honest I understand where you are coming from. Dropshipping is a scam.

Ecommerce on the other hand is not a scam. Which is what I do. I get manufacturers in my home town to make jewellery and i sell it through google ads and make my business look like a professional jewellers. theres nothing scam about that. its a legit business, people buy jewellery online. I sell jewellery online.

I can see why you thought I was a manic dropshipping 16 year old idiot though. There are a lot of them about. In fact, I used to be one of them but then you realise you can create an actual long term business harnessing some of the dropshipping methods/overall strategy.

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Lots of good stuff.

I have some questions about Instagram maxxing. What kind of photos do you post? How can you consistently post photos that make your lifestyle look good without running out of ideas? Is it possible to be too try hard (e.g. always posting girls, extreme sports, expensive stuff, etc)?

Photos of yourself. Non cringe selfie, or get someone to take a pic of you while your out? with friends. or doing a sport?

With the lifestyle posts just post good parts of your life

I dont think its possible to try too hard. People do flex too hard on insta sometimes and that is bad if your like hey guys look at my new rolex look at this look at that. But if you just include these things in your instagram passively. its sort of passive flexing which looks natural and makes you look good without making you look like a dickhead

 

[Chadethnic101]

Ah okay understood. Maybe focus on a few things at a time, thats what ive done. and its not coping, its just improving your looks. & lol what else was I meant to call the bad man maxxing section, but u cant deny that its something girls are attracted to

You should leave this site while you can bro, your probs already looksaxxed and won't be getting surgeries so no point you being here. As you can see people are too close minded to listen to you, which I think is good advice btw as im red pilled like yourself

 

[Deleted member 14543]

You should leave this site while you can bro, your probs already looksaxxed and won't be getting surgeries so no point you being here. As you can see people are too close minded to listen to you, which I think is good advice btw as im red pilled like yourself

Is there anywhere to looksmax/red pill discussion without getting comments from all the incels? and I will do surgeries when i have more money, this forum has gave me some good ideas about things i didnt even know existed but yeah it does come with a lot of annoyance from the incels

 

[Chadethnic101]

Is there anywhere to looksmax/red pill discussion without getting comments from all the incels? and I will do surgeries when i have more money, this forum has gave me some good ideas about things i didnt even know existed but yeah it does come with a lot of annoyance from the incels

Answer to that in this site is no lol what you should do is make a rating thread and ask for improvements, once you know those improvements whether that be thru surgery or just softmaxxing there's really no need to be here anymore. As a redpiller too much time here can rot your mind, especially if u wanna be a successful man.
If you need a rate or want any surgery tips then feel free to PM me bro

 

[The_God]

Hi guys, just joined the forum. I've been redpill for a while and looksmaxing for a while without realising theres a community dedicated to it.

So I am going to give you guys everything I have worked out so far and what I am doing myself. (some of these are looks and status)

Also dont say that im 'coping' by doing all of these things. I'm simply improving myself like we all are.

Also apologies for the lack of writing effort, grammar, bad spelling etc. I hope the content makes up for it

Also (x3) These are the things that have been helpful to me, some things may not be for all of you. And maxing out on each aspect for years will give you the results.

1. Height -
Obviously not much you can do if your short. I've noticed most short men in my life get disrespected and less girls. A 5'4 guy I met that gets A LOT of girls & respect is my muay thai teacher, he sorted his looks out and puts on a masculine demeanour and is obviously very good at fighting. Would beat up most 6ft men. This is an example of someone who has made up for his DEFECIT.
Also height insoles are good. I've tried all different sizes. I noticed any more than 1.5 inches and it becomes REALLY obvious and embarrassing. Also don't wear them with shorts. I prefer to wear them when I'm wearing tracksuit bottoms/jeans that cover the ankle.

2. Tan
Obviously doesnt apply to people of colour. I think some people dont realise that being pale is very very ugly. I am naturally quite pale and I am a 6 without a tan. And with a dark tan I feel like a 9. I got my best looking girlfriends when I had a dark tan. But have you ever noticed a white person that should be pale due to lack of sun but still somehow has an attractive yellowy glow? That's because of them naturally getting b-carotene from a great diet or taking the supplement b-carotene. I take this and after a week or two it gets into your system and you look a lot healthier even if you are pale. Make sure you buy one that has near to the maximum daily dosage tablets. Glow from B-carotene supplement + Tan from sunbeds = you look fucking good. Personally I am low on money and don't like to pay so much at the sunbed shops so I spent £150 on a sunbed from ebay. It came with tubes that had almost ran out so I bought some more tubes for £100 and fit them myself(easy to do from youtube). With the sunbed you need to do it a lot at the start then just maintain obviously. Personally I just tan arms, face and back of neck as I like to be safe. It just makes you look like you've got a roofers tan which I don't mind. My face goes from a 5 to what feels like a 9 depending on how dark my tan is. I also use these scerlacontacts blindfold black contacts. These are instead of using goggles to protect eyes(as they leave ridiculous looking white circles round ur eyes) They're basically blacked out contacts that helps protect your eyes from the sunbed.

3. Clothing max
Noticed this from when I was about 12. Clothing is important. Designer is good. Everything doesn't need to be designer but a good combination is an unbranded fit with 1 designer item per outfit. Stand out designer pieces I've noticed are gucci/lv belts, gucci caps, etc. Also I get my clothes tailored and you should too. Get them to make your upper half clothes fit quite tight, showing off the v-taper, chest and arms. I personally hate skinny bottoms and they look gay as fuck. I keep all bottoms straight leg/cut but obviously not too wide and baggy. Just not skinny or slim bottoms. I get this done for £10 per item at a tailors 20 drive mins from me in a poorer area.

4. Eyebrows
Something that girls obsess over for good reason. The ideal brow is a slightly downward pointing brow like hunter eyes. Thick dark brows. If your brows are light like mine(im blonde) then dye them dark brown. If your eyebrows arent fully grown in and not thick. Use minoxidil and dermaroll them. I personally dont think plucking them looks good. I try to look as manly as possible and I think plucking is very obvious to everyone. Also there are exercises you can do to get the downwards hunter eyes brow. Dont squintmax its ridiculous and everyone can tell your doing it.

5. Beard/mustache
Important to look like a man. No neckbeards. If you have a neckbeard (i have a half neckbeard, but my cheeks are coming through) then please do not fucking grow it. See whether you prefer clean shaven or a bit of stuble. Also tash is good. mine was light blonde and since I dyed that light brown it has added so much more feature to my face. If you've got a neckbeard, you want to use minoxidil and dermaroll regularly, you can work this out yourself if you dont already know. You NEED a cheekbeard.

Also get an electric shaver and shape up your beard and mustache. The first few times is difficult but you get used creating the right shape through trial and error.

6. Instagram profile maxing.
I had 800 followers a few months ago. I have 10k now. Status has increased massively. There is a massive different in DMing girls while I had 800 followers to 10k. It increases my status, they know more girls are gonna want me just due to pure numbers. & girls even message me sometimes if I'm posting good pictures/good lifestyle/ something funny. A girl being on your instagram is like a marketing funnel. You can nurture your 10k girls to think of you a good looking, muscley, popular, funny guy. Even if your not 100%.

HOW I GREW TO 10K: Instas follow limit is 200 per day. DO NOT GO OVER THAT AS YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND ON THEIR RADAR FOR WEEKS AFTER. I follow 100 in the morning and 100 at night. I find girls in my area and go on their followers and follow hundreds of their friends, also I've noticed girls mostly follow boys and boys mostly follow girls so: go on a girls insta, find a decent looking boy, follow his likes and followers.
From following 200 girls in 1 day, I will get 70-110 followers back(depending on luck) I also split test which profile pictures get the most follows back. (proper nerded this shit out). When I accept these new followers I like 1 picture of each girl, if they like back (roughly 20 will) I will DM the ones I like the most. Also if I do this, I will usually get 1 girl DM and try to talk to me first just because of pure numbers. Once I hit 7k followING, I'll unfollow 4000 manually - 100 per day. and repeat.
I did this until I got to about 7k active girl instagram followers. I just botted 3k followers from a site called smmfollows to get myself to 10k. I will now continue following girls and no one will notice the 3k botted as 1. no one cares 2. new girls who have followed me are at the top of my following list 3. my account is still very active and my likes on pictures are high.

7. Dating maxing
To be honest the last few months I have been focusing hard on gym and business so not much time for girls. But when I do want to find a girl, I will. (even being not the best looking guy)
Personally I dont cold approach as I dont go out much and not got the confidence yet. But online cold approach is just fine. I believe it is 1. a CONSISTENT numbers game. DM 5 girls per day for a year and try to NOT have a girlfriend. 2. being socially calibrated/funny 3. actually put effort into these girls conversations. if they are giving 1 word replies. get the hint. but if theyre answering questions well but maybe not asking about yourself. I've noticed they will start doing that after a long conversation OR lets say you asked where theyre from and they just said florida, you can say speak about it for a sec and then say- 'are you not going to ask me where im from?' 4. one thing ive noticed is due to the pure amount of DMs average looking girls get, a lot will give you 1 word replies to shit-test you as low confidence guys wouldnt continue persueing. but you also need to try to get their attention straight away, try to avoid the basic 'how are you, where u from, what u do from work' conversations. maybe use some of those questions + make observations about her profile and tease her. I've attached a good example below from the other day. 5. TINDER: make a female profile first and realise the dynamic and how girls see tinder. Scroll through profiles and find the best bios & read your messages and see the best lines guys have used on this fake girl, and steal them. Also buy the premium tinder membership to get boosts. 6. dont try to meet them straight away. its weird imo. maybe meet after a week of speaking. Also they wont go on a date with you IF YOU DONT ASK. so try. if it doesnt work, try again, maybe shes resisting because she doesnt want to be easy. but you have to be calibrated enough to realise if its because shes not into you. 6. FACETIME. I think facetime or a phone call makes it more real for her, she realises you are a person. shes replying to loads of DMs, but not every boy is facetiming her, she will put more effort into the convo over the phone and you can let eachothers personalities shine a lot more.

8. Hair maxing
Most looksmaxers ive seen in a discord chat I'm in dont have a skinfade or a good haircut. Wtf. this is one of the most important things. You NEED to be getting regular skinfades. Not fades. Skinfades. It can make your face go from a 5 to a 7 somehow, it just changes you. I am so addicted to having the fade that over the last year, I bought clippers and a 360 mirror and skinfade myself once per week. Learning from youtube & trial and error. I'd genuinely say I can now do a better fade than my barber and I can do it exactly how I like it. I would recommend going to the barbers every few months just to perfect the top.

Also I'm using ketoconizil shampoo to prevent balding the best I can as I'm prone to it as my dad is bald.

9. Business/money maxing
(ignore if you already have a good job/business) Best business to be in right now is ecommerce. can work from anywhere, booming market, easy to get into. Just start a microbrand learn basic structure of the business from Samir Chibane and then use youtube to learn dropshipping methods or source the products yourself. I have a brand myself and I enjoy every day perfecting the product, sms marketing, instagram, google shopping ads, fb retargetting ads, email marketing. Easiest business to scale to high numbers. Peoples lives can change within 1 month. But it may take a year + to get that 1 month where you get winning products and make a lot of money

10. Natural testosterone maxing
I've heard icing your testicles for 20 mins 3x per day increases test by 20%. Makes you more manly and you can lift more at the gym+ more muscle. I dont do this yet but when i get less busy I'm going to put this into my dail schedule. (youtube & google for more info on this)

11. Gym
Obvious - personally I'm on a few year long bulk as I used to be a broomstick looking ass. I eat high cals, high protein, focus on compound movements and lift heavy.

12. bad man maxing
I'd say girls like a more bad looking man. To do this, you need to be not pale, have the hunter eyes, wear intimidating clothes, know how to fight, maybe a masculine short haircut, tattoos etc. If it isn't you then dont worry

13. Martial arts maxing
Essential for every man to have the ability for violence. "its better to be a warrior in a garden, than be a gardener in a war". Join a boxing/mma/muay thai/kickboxing gym. You meet friends there, more masculine personalities rub off on you etc.

14. surgery
Dont do it. It's weird. No face surgery has ever looked good apart from a minor nose job. That is the 1 thing that I believe is a cope. I guarantee you can get to at least a 7 with all of the things in this thread maxed out.

15. jewellery
A nice gold chain, gold ring, gold bracelet I feel like adds to your personality. Also a nice pair of sunglasses is essential. Makes you look cool.

16. Tattoos
Another thing that adds personality. I recommend a full body realism piece and look at paying £700+ per day to the best artist within a 2 hour drive from you. You only get 1 chance. Also most of the ASOS models are fully tatted head to toe, I think that shows that it is a good style. It may not be for everyone though. Personally I have a realism lion on my hand, realism forearm. A small cross tattoo on my face just under my eye and a script writing tattoo on the side of my head.
Good tattoos DEFINITELY increase your status massively imo.

Now skim over all of these points and imagine yourself maxed out on each one and tell me you wont look good and have high status.
Hope this helps.

good thread OP. do not listen to what the others say .. they are virgins

 

[oldcelloser]

kill yourself

it is a solution tho if the surgeries dont work

 

[Germania]

Hi guys, just joined the forum. I've been redpill for a while and looksmaxing for a while without realising theres a community dedicated to it.

So I am going to give you guys everything I have worked out so far and what I am doing myself. (some of these are looks and status)

Also dont say that im 'coping' by doing all of these things. I'm simply improving myself like we all are.

Also apologies for the lack of writing effort, grammar, bad spelling etc. I hope the content makes up for it

Also (x3) These are the things that have been helpful to me, some things may not be for all of you. And maxing out on each aspect for years will give you the results.

1. Height -
Obviously not much you can do if your short. I've noticed most short men in my life get disrespected and less girls. A 5'4 guy I met that gets A LOT of girls & respect is my muay thai teacher, he sorted his looks out and puts on a masculine demeanour and is obviously very good at fighting. Would beat up most 6ft men. This is an example of someone who has made up for his DEFECIT.
Also height insoles are good. I've tried all different sizes. I noticed any more than 1.5 inches and it becomes REALLY obvious and embarrassing. Also don't wear them with shorts. I prefer to wear them when I'm wearing tracksuit bottoms/jeans that cover the ankle.

2. Tan
Obviously doesnt apply to people of colour. I think some people dont realise that being pale is very very ugly. I am naturally quite pale and I am a 6 without a tan. And with a dark tan I feel like a 9. I got my best looking girlfriends when I had a dark tan. But have you ever noticed a white person that should be pale due to lack of sun but still somehow has an attractive yellowy glow? That's because of them naturally getting b-carotene from a great diet or taking the supplement b-carotene. I take this and after a week or two it gets into your system and you look a lot healthier even if you are pale. Make sure you buy one that has near to the maximum daily dosage tablets. Glow from B-carotene supplement + Tan from sunbeds = you look fucking good. Personally I am low on money and don't like to pay so much at the sunbed shops so I spent £150 on a sunbed from ebay. It came with tubes that had almost ran out so I bought some more tubes for £100 and fit them myself(easy to do from youtube). With the sunbed you need to do it a lot at the start then just maintain obviously. Personally I just tan arms, face and back of neck as I like to be safe. It just makes you look like you've got a roofers tan which I don't mind. My face goes from a 5 to what feels like a 9 depending on how dark my tan is. I also use these scerlacontacts blindfold black contacts. These are instead of using goggles to protect eyes(as they leave ridiculous looking white circles round ur eyes) They're basically blacked out contacts that helps protect your eyes from the sunbed.

3. Clothing max
Noticed this from when I was about 12. Clothing is important. Designer is good. Everything doesn't need to be designer but a good combination is an unbranded fit with 1 designer item per outfit. Stand out designer pieces I've noticed are gucci/lv belts, gucci caps, etc. Also I get my clothes tailored and you should too. Get them to make your upper half clothes fit quite tight, showing off the v-taper, chest and arms. I personally hate skinny bottoms and they look gay as fuck. I keep all bottoms straight leg/cut but obviously not too wide and baggy. Just not skinny or slim bottoms. I get this done for £10 per item at a tailors 20 drive mins from me in a poorer area.

4. Eyebrows
Something that girls obsess over for good reason. The ideal brow is a slightly downward pointing brow like hunter eyes. Thick dark brows. If your brows are light like mine(im blonde) then dye them dark brown. If your eyebrows arent fully grown in and not thick. Use minoxidil and dermaroll them. I personally dont think plucking them looks good. I try to look as manly as possible and I think plucking is very obvious to everyone. Also there are exercises you can do to get the downwards hunter eyes brow. Dont squintmax its ridiculous and everyone can tell your doing it.

5. Beard/mustache
Important to look like a man. No neckbeards. If you have a neckbeard (i have a half neckbeard, but my cheeks are coming through) then please do not fucking grow it. See whether you prefer clean shaven or a bit of stuble. Also tash is good. mine was light blonde and since I dyed that light brown it has added so much more feature to my face. If you've got a neckbeard, you want to use minoxidil and dermaroll regularly, you can work this out yourself if you dont already know. You NEED a cheekbeard.

Also get an electric shaver and shape up your beard and mustache. The first few times is difficult but you get used creating the right shape through trial and error.

6. Instagram profile maxing.
I had 800 followers a few months ago. I have 10k now. Status has increased massively. There is a massive different in DMing girls while I had 800 followers to 10k. It increases my status, they know more girls are gonna want me just due to pure numbers. & girls even message me sometimes if I'm posting good pictures/good lifestyle/ something funny. A girl being on your instagram is like a marketing funnel. You can nurture your 10k girls to think of you a good looking, muscley, popular, funny guy. Even if your not 100%.

HOW I GREW TO 10K: Instas follow limit is 200 per day. DO NOT GO OVER THAT AS YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND ON THEIR RADAR FOR WEEKS AFTER. I follow 100 in the morning and 100 at night. I find girls in my area and go on their followers and follow hundreds of their friends, also I've noticed girls mostly follow boys and boys mostly follow girls so: go on a girls insta, find a decent looking boy, follow his likes and followers.
From following 200 girls in 1 day, I will get 70-110 followers back(depending on luck) I also split test which profile pictures get the most follows back. (proper nerded this shit out). When I accept these new followers I like 1 picture of each girl, if they like back (roughly 20 will) I will DM the ones I like the most. Also if I do this, I will usually get 1 girl DM and try to talk to me first just because of pure numbers. Once I hit 7k followING, I'll unfollow 4000 manually - 100 per day. and repeat.
I did this until I got to about 7k active girl instagram followers. I just botted 3k followers from a site called smmfollows to get myself to 10k. I will now continue following girls and no one will notice the 3k botted as 1. no one cares 2. new girls who have followed me are at the top of my following list 3. my account is still very active and my likes on pictures are high.

7. Dating maxing
To be honest the last few months I have been focusing hard on gym and business so not much time for girls. But when I do want to find a girl, I will. (even being not the best looking guy)
Personally I dont cold approach as I dont go out much and not got the confidence yet. But online cold approach is just fine. I believe it is 1. a CONSISTENT numbers game. DM 5 girls per day for a year and try to NOT have a girlfriend. 2. being socially calibrated/funny 3. actually put effort into these girls conversations. if they are giving 1 word replies. get the hint. but if theyre answering questions well but maybe not asking about yourself. I've noticed they will start doing that after a long conversation OR lets say you asked where theyre from and they just said florida, you can say speak about it for a sec and then say- 'are you not going to ask me where im from?' 4. one thing ive noticed is due to the pure amount of DMs average looking girls get, a lot will give you 1 word replies to shit-test you as low confidence guys wouldnt continue persueing. but you also need to try to get their attention straight away, try to avoid the basic 'how are you, where u from, what u do from work' conversations. maybe use some of those questions + make observations about her profile and tease her. I've attached a good example below from the other day. 5. TINDER: make a female profile first and realise the dynamic and how girls see tinder. Scroll through profiles and find the best bios & read your messages and see the best lines guys have used on this fake girl, and steal them. Also buy the premium tinder membership to get boosts. 6. dont try to meet them straight away. its weird imo. maybe meet after a week of speaking. Also they wont go on a date with you IF YOU DONT ASK. so try. if it doesnt work, try again, maybe shes resisting because she doesnt want to be easy. but you have to be calibrated enough to realise if its because shes not into you. 6. FACETIME. I think facetime or a phone call makes it more real for her, she realises you are a person. shes replying to loads of DMs, but not every boy is facetiming her, she will put more effort into the convo over the phone and you can let eachothers personalities shine a lot more.

8. Hair maxing
Most looksmaxers ive seen in a discord chat I'm in dont have a skinfade or a good haircut. Wtf. this is one of the most important things. You NEED to be getting regular skinfades. Not fades. Skinfades. It can make your face go from a 5 to a 7 somehow, it just changes you. I am so addicted to having the fade that over the last year, I bought clippers and a 360 mirror and skinfade myself once per week. Learning from youtube & trial and error. I'd genuinely say I can now do a better fade than my barber and I can do it exactly how I like it. I would recommend going to the barbers every few months just to perfect the top.

Also I'm using ketoconizil shampoo to prevent balding the best I can as I'm prone to it as my dad is bald.

9. Business/money maxing
(ignore if you already have a good job/business) Best business to be in right now is ecommerce. can work from anywhere, booming market, easy to get into. Just start a microbrand learn basic structure of the business from Samir Chibane and then use youtube to learn dropshipping methods or source the products yourself. I have a brand myself and I enjoy every day perfecting the product, sms marketing, instagram, google shopping ads, fb retargetting ads, email marketing. Easiest business to scale to high numbers. Peoples lives can change within 1 month. But it may take a year + to get that 1 month where you get winning products and make a lot of money

10. Natural testosterone maxing
I've heard icing your testicles for 20 mins 3x per day increases test by 20%. Makes you more manly and you can lift more at the gym+ more muscle. I dont do this yet but when i get less busy I'm going to put this into my dail schedule. (youtube & google for more info on this)

11. Gym
Obvious - personally I'm on a few year long bulk as I used to be a broomstick looking ass. I eat high cals, high protein, focus on compound movements and lift heavy.

12. bad man maxing
I'd say girls like a more bad looking man. To do this, you need to be not pale, have the hunter eyes, wear intimidating clothes, know how to fight, maybe a masculine short haircut, tattoos etc. If it isn't you then dont worry

13. Martial arts maxing
Essential for every man to have the ability for violence. "its better to be a warrior in a garden, than be a gardener in a war". Join a boxing/mma/muay thai/kickboxing gym. You meet friends there, more masculine personalities rub off on you etc.

14. surgery
Dont do it. It's weird. No face surgery has ever looked good apart from a minor nose job. That is the 1 thing that I believe is a cope. I guarantee you can get to at least a 7 with all of the things in this thread maxed out.

15. jewellery
A nice gold chain, gold ring, gold bracelet I feel like adds to your personality. Also a nice pair of sunglasses is essential. Makes you look cool.

16. Tattoos
Another thing that adds personality. I recommend a full body realism piece and look at paying £700+ per day to the best artist within a 2 hour drive from you. You only get 1 chance. Also most of the ASOS models are fully tatted head to toe, I think that shows that it is a good style. It may not be for everyone though. Personally I have a realism lion on my hand, realism forearm. A small cross tattoo on my face just under my eye and a script writing tattoo on the side of my head.
Good tattoos DEFINITELY increase your status massively imo.

Now skim over all of these points and imagine yourself maxed out on each one and tell me you wont look good and have high status.
Hope this helps.

halfway acceptable advice, but 8/9 is cope you mean more like a 6.

 

[Germania]

And with a dark tan I feel like a 9.

Do you look like Mike Thruston facially and physically + rich/status? If not, don't call yourself a 9 son.

 

[Deleted member 8856]

Mirin the Instagram guide. What kind of photos do you post?

 

[RIPPED IRL]

how following random guys/girls in your town gives you status jfl

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Do you look like Mike Thruston facially and physically + rich/status? If not, don't call yourself a 9 son.

Yeah im better facially that mike with a dark tan. + I actually have hair. And I'm bigger than him muscle wise

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Who the fuck were u talking to in those messages @Digital Hitler

 

[Germania]

Yeah im better facially that mike with a dark tan. + I actually have hair. And I'm bigger than him muscle wise

Pics of you?

 

[LifeIsACope]

jfl At tanning, ruining your chances on the other side of the planet they luv white skin

 

[randomuser2407]

I am a perfect example of the effectiveness of the double jaw surgery for looksmaxxing. Nothing else will enhance your physical appearance as much for the face. Most guys who can get it done only need that and a muscular ripped physique and they will be looksmaxxed.

Don't believe me? Look here: https://looksmax.org/threads/is-it-worth-hooking-up-with-someone-uglier-than-u.379385/post-6281821

 

[Deleted member 8016]

Where can I find exercices for eyebrows bro
Good thread for those who don't need surgery btw

 

[Deleted member 11054]

Funny how OP does all this hard work just to get laid while there are guys on here who get laid consistently on Tinder just because they are gymmaxxed even though they have a very average looking face.

Also, talking to a girl for 1 week on Tinder without meeting her in person is stupid and something that only simps do, it doesn't increase your chance of getting laid, it just wastes your time. Time that could have been spent improving your looks.

Instagram followers don't really matter because women will rely on how you look to decide if you're worth meeting, they don't care about your number of followers unless you're a famous influencer, so faking fame isn't going to help with much, and it will require you to explain to women how you got so many followers, which you won't be able to explain anyways.

Tattoos won't make you look more alpha if you're a DYEL, and if you're muscular, tattoos aren't even necessary. Getting tattoos won't make you look dark triad, only your personality can do that and you can't fake being dark triad anyways.

Ecommerce/Dropshipping is a scam. How do you expect people will find your business? And even if they do find it, what will compel them to buy your products instead of going on Amazon? Be realistic here, you're not going to make money from that.

Honestly, to me, you just sound like a naive 16 year old and I know because you're similar to how I was at that age, I thought that there were well kept secrets on how to be successful in life but the truth is that it's all about hard work, not searching for secret solutions because there aren't any. You can't buy the rewards of hard labour you can only earn them by working hard on specific goals that make you improve yourself

Reading books and searching for special solutions doesn't count as working on yourself. Instead you should be lifting heavy weights, eating right, sleeping enough hours every day, working on a new skill, getting a job in a field that you are good at and making money from that, and going out sometimes to do fun activities that allow you to meet people. It took me years to learn all of this, because for so long, I was acting in a very similar way to you because I thought that there was a shortcut, but there really isn't one.

Of course Instagram followers do and do matter a lot. What happens is that most here underestimate the NT factor. precisely because they live indoors and have no social intelligence. Once a girl matches you on tinder, in 90% of cases she will ask for your intagram to be able to leave, and voila, if you are a chad without social proof to support your appearance, you will lose the girl. An HTN-chadlite with a huge instagram, slays much more than a chad with no social life in 2k21.

 

[randomuser2407]

Of course Instagram followers do and do matter a lot. What happens is that most here underestimate the NT factor. precisely because they live indoors and have no social intelligence. Once a girl matches you on tinder, in 90% of cases she will ask for your intagram to be able to leave, and voila, if you are a chad without social proof to support your appearance, you will lose the girl. An HTN-chadlite with a huge instagram, slays much more than a chad with no social life in 2k21.

Actually, most women in my area use snapchat to message people, not Instagram.

 

[Patient A]

14. surgery
Dont do it. It's weird. No face surgery has ever looked good apart from a minor nose job. That is the 1 thing that I believe is a cope. I guarantee you can get to at least a 7 with all of the things in this thread maxed out.

I scrolled straight to this part and after I read this…

Hi guys, just joined the forum. I've been redpill for a while and looksmaxing for a while without realising theres a community dedicated to it.

So I am going to give you guys everything I have worked out so far and what I am doing myself. (some of these are looks and status)

Also dont say that im 'coping' by doing all of these things. I'm simply improving myself like we all are.

Also apologies for the lack of writing effort, grammar, bad spelling etc. I hope the content makes up for it

Also (x3) These are the things that have been helpful to me, some things may not be for all of you. And maxing out on each aspect for years will give you the results.

1. Height -
Obviously not much you can do if your short. I've noticed most short men in my life get disrespected and less girls. A 5'4 guy I met that gets A LOT of girls & respect is my muay thai teacher, he sorted his looks out and puts on a masculine demeanour and is obviously very good at fighting. Would beat up most 6ft men. This is an example of someone who has made up for his DEFECIT.
Also height insoles are good. I've tried all different sizes. I noticed any more than 1.5 inches and it becomes REALLY obvious and embarrassing. Also don't wear them with shorts. I prefer to wear them when I'm wearing tracksuit bottoms/jeans that cover the ankle.

2. Tan
Obviously doesnt apply to people of colour. I think some people dont realise that being pale is very very ugly. I am naturally quite pale and I am a 6 without a tan. And with a dark tan I feel like a 9. I got my best looking girlfriends when I had a dark tan. But have you ever noticed a white person that should be pale due to lack of sun but still somehow has an attractive yellowy glow? That's because of them naturally getting b-carotene from a great diet or taking the supplement b-carotene. I take this and after a week or two it gets into your system and you look a lot healthier even if you are pale. Make sure you buy one that has near to the maximum daily dosage tablets. Glow from B-carotene supplement + Tan from sunbeds = you look fucking good. Personally I am low on money and don't like to pay so much at the sunbed shops so I spent £150 on a sunbed from ebay. It came with tubes that had almost ran out so I bought some more tubes for £100 and fit them myself(easy to do from youtube). With the sunbed you need to do it a lot at the start then just maintain obviously. Personally I just tan arms, face and back of neck as I like to be safe. It just makes you look like you've got a roofers tan which I don't mind. My face goes from a 5 to what feels like a 9 depending on how dark my tan is. I also use these scerlacontacts blindfold black contacts. These are instead of using goggles to protect eyes(as they leave ridiculous looking white circles round ur eyes) They're basically blacked out contacts that helps protect your eyes from the sunbed.

3. Clothing max
Noticed this from when I was about 12. Clothing is important. Designer is good. Everything doesn't need to be designer but a good combination is an unbranded fit with 1 designer item per outfit. Stand out designer pieces I've noticed are gucci/lv belts, gucci caps, etc. Also I get my clothes tailored and you should too. Get them to make your upper half clothes fit quite tight, showing off the v-taper, chest and arms. I personally hate skinny bottoms and they look gay as fuck. I keep all bottoms straight leg/cut but obviously not too wide and baggy. Just not skinny or slim bottoms. I get this done for £10 per item at a tailors 20 drive mins from me in a poorer area.

4. Eyebrows
Something that girls obsess over for good reason. The ideal brow is a slightly downward pointing brow like hunter eyes. Thick dark brows. If your brows are light like mine(im blonde) then dye them dark brown. If your eyebrows arent fully grown in and not thick. Use minoxidil and dermaroll them. I personally dont think plucking them looks good. I try to look as manly as possible and I think plucking is very obvious to everyone. Also there are exercises you can do to get the downwards hunter eyes brow. Dont squintmax its ridiculous and everyone can tell your doing it.

5. Beard/mustache
Important to look like a man. No neckbeards. If you have a neckbeard (i have a half neckbeard, but my cheeks are coming through) then please do not fucking grow it. See whether you prefer clean shaven or a bit of stuble. Also tash is good. mine was light blonde and since I dyed that light brown it has added so much more feature to my face. If you've got a neckbeard, you want to use minoxidil and dermaroll regularly, you can work this out yourself if you dont already know. You NEED a cheekbeard.

Also get an electric shaver and shape up your beard and mustache. The first few times is difficult but you get used creating the right shape through trial and error.

6. Instagram profile maxing.
I had 800 followers a few months ago. I have 10k now. Status has increased massively. There is a massive different in DMing girls while I had 800 followers to 10k. It increases my status, they know more girls are gonna want me just due to pure numbers. & girls even message me sometimes if I'm posting good pictures/good lifestyle/ something funny. A girl being on your instagram is like a marketing funnel. You can nurture your 10k girls to think of you a good looking, muscley, popular, funny guy. Even if your not 100%.

HOW I GREW TO 10K: Instas follow limit is 200 per day. DO NOT GO OVER THAT AS YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND ON THEIR RADAR FOR WEEKS AFTER. I follow 100 in the morning and 100 at night. I find girls in my area and go on their followers and follow hundreds of their friends, also I've noticed girls mostly follow boys and boys mostly follow girls so: go on a girls insta, find a decent looking boy, follow his likes and followers.
From following 200 girls in 1 day, I will get 70-110 followers back(depending on luck) I also split test which profile pictures get the most follows back. (proper nerded this shit out). When I accept these new followers I like 1 picture of each girl, if they like back (roughly 20 will) I will DM the ones I like the most. Also if I do this, I will usually get 1 girl DM and try to talk to me first just because of pure numbers. Once I hit 7k followING, I'll unfollow 4000 manually - 100 per day. and repeat.
I did this until I got to about 7k active girl instagram followers. I just botted 3k followers from a site called smmfollows to get myself to 10k. I will now continue following girls and no one will notice the 3k botted as 1. no one cares 2. new girls who have followed me are at the top of my following list 3. my account is still very active and my likes on pictures are high.

7. Dating maxing
To be honest the last few months I have been focusing hard on gym and business so not much time for girls. But when I do want to find a girl, I will. (even being not the best looking guy)
Personally I dont cold approach as I dont go out much and not got the confidence yet. But online cold approach is just fine. I believe it is 1. a CONSISTENT numbers game. DM 5 girls per day for a year and try to NOT have a girlfriend. 2. being socially calibrated/funny 3. actually put effort into these girls conversations. if they are giving 1 word replies. get the hint. but if theyre answering questions well but maybe not asking about yourself. I've noticed they will start doing that after a long conversation OR lets say you asked where theyre from and they just said florida, you can say speak about it for a sec and then say- 'are you not going to ask me where im from?' 4. one thing ive noticed is due to the pure amount of DMs average looking girls get, a lot will give you 1 word replies to shit-test you as low confidence guys wouldnt continue persueing. but you also need to try to get their attention straight away, try to avoid the basic 'how are you, where u from, what u do from work' conversations. maybe use some of those questions + make observations about her profile and tease her. I've attached a good example below from the other day. 5. TINDER: make a female profile first and realise the dynamic and how girls see tinder. Scroll through profiles and find the best bios & read your messages and see the best lines guys have used on this fake girl, and steal them. Also buy the premium tinder membership to get boosts. 6. dont try to meet them straight away. its weird imo. maybe meet after a week of speaking. Also they wont go on a date with you IF YOU DONT ASK. so try. if it doesnt work, try again, maybe shes resisting because she doesnt want to be easy. but you have to be calibrated enough to realise if its because shes not into you. 6. FACETIME. I think facetime or a phone call makes it more real for her, she realises you are a person. shes replying to loads of DMs, but not every boy is facetiming her, she will put more effort into the convo over the phone and you can let eachothers personalities shine a lot more.

8. Hair maxing
Most looksmaxers ive seen in a discord chat I'm in dont have a skinfade or a good haircut. Wtf. this is one of the most important things. You NEED to be getting regular skinfades. Not fades. Skinfades. It can make your face go from a 5 to a 7 somehow, it just changes you. I am so addicted to having the fade that over the last year, I bought clippers and a 360 mirror and skinfade myself once per week. Learning from youtube & trial and error. I'd genuinely say I can now do a better fade than my barber and I can do it exactly how I like it. I would recommend going to the barbers every few months just to perfect the top.

Also I'm using ketoconizil shampoo to prevent balding the best I can as I'm prone to it as my dad is bald.

9. Business/money maxing
(ignore if you already have a good job/business) Best business to be in right now is ecommerce. can work from anywhere, booming market, easy to get into. Just start a microbrand learn basic structure of the business from Samir Chibane and then use youtube to learn dropshipping methods or source the products yourself. I have a brand myself and I enjoy every day perfecting the product, sms marketing, instagram, google shopping ads, fb retargetting ads, email marketing. Easiest business to scale to high numbers. Peoples lives can change within 1 month. But it may take a year + to get that 1 month where you get winning products and make a lot of money

10. Natural testosterone maxing
I've heard icing your testicles for 20 mins 3x per day increases test by 20%. Makes you more manly and you can lift more at the gym+ more muscle. I dont do this yet but when i get less busy I'm going to put this into my dail schedule. (youtube & google for more info on this)

11. Gym
Obvious - personally I'm on a few year long bulk as I used to be a broomstick looking ass. I eat high cals, high protein, focus on compound movements and lift heavy.

12. bad man maxing
I'd say girls like a more bad looking man. To do this, you need to be not pale, have the hunter eyes, wear intimidating clothes, know how to fight, maybe a masculine short haircut, tattoos etc. If it isn't you then dont worry

13. Martial arts maxing
Essential for every man to have the ability for violence. "its better to be a warrior in a garden, than be a gardener in a war". Join a boxing/mma/muay thai/kickboxing gym. You meet friends there, more masculine personalities rub off on you etc.

14. surgery
Dont do it. It's weird. No face surgery has ever looked good apart from a minor nose job. That is the 1 thing that I believe is a cope. I guarantee you can get to at least a 7 with all of the things in this thread maxed out.

15. jewellery
A nice gold chain, gold ring, gold bracelet I feel like adds to your personality. Also a nice pair of sunglasses is essential. Makes you look cool.

16. Tattoos
Another thing that adds personality. I recommend a full body realism piece and look at paying £700+ per day to the best artist within a 2 hour drive from you. You only get 1 chance. Also most of the ASOS models are fully tatted head to toe, I think that shows that it is a good style. It may not be for everyone though. Personally I have a realism lion on my hand, realism forearm. A small cross tattoo on my face just under my eye and a script writing tattoo on the side of my head.
Good tattoos DEFINITELY increase your status massively imo.

Now skim over all of these points and imagine yourself maxed out on each one and tell me you wont look good and have high status.
Hope this helps.

 

[sorrowfulsad]

Watch this:



This guy has a bachelor's degree in economics and a successful online business and he says the exact same thing that I told you.

There is no secret way to get rich, and dropshipping is just another scam. The guys like Anton Kraly and Johnny FD make money from their scam courses about dropshipping, not their dropshipping websites, and of course, their income reports are obviously faked.
The reason why their scam works is because there are people who make minimum wage who are as naive as you who are willing to pay enormous amounts of money just in the hope of getting lucky and making millions, but the real world doesn't work like that. I know because I have been obsessed with dropshipping in the past, in 2016, when I was 18 years old, and I didn't give them any money, thankfully.

The best advice I can give you is to find a subject that you are good at (not what you are interested in) and major in that field in college and your job will be way easier than what most people are doing and if it is a lucrative field, you will make lots of money by doing something that is easy for you. For me, that would be working on computers solving technical problems, and, when I'll be qualified enough, programming and solving problems in code. I wish that someone had told me this back when I was 16 because I wasted so many years in jobs that I was really bad at and got fired every single time and I thought that there was something wrong with me but the truth is that I was just in the wrong field of work, because most people aren't as skilled with computers as I am.

the youtube video was very good ngl

 

[oldcelloser]

Where can I find exercices for eyebrows bro
Good thread for those who don't need surgery btw

everybody here needs surgery nigga

 

[Matthias8272]

This thread is literally just every softmaxx listed on the site, 0 new information, and it doesn't make you go from subhuman to an 8 or 9

 

[Deleted member 14543]

This thread is literally just every softmaxx listed on the site, 0 new information, and it doesn't make you go from subhuman to an 8 or 9

whatever floats your cope u fukin nerd

 

[Matthias8272]

whatever floats your cope u fukin nerd

I'm coping yet you think someone can go from subhuman to 8 or 9 with softmaxxing, biggest bluepill cope I've seen. Also jfl at calling me a nerd when you write a fucking essay to a bunch of incels

 

[klamus]

Turbo cope thread. If you Have a 5/10 face nothing you Do Will Make you attractive to anything but fatties

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Good advice +1

Except the part where you advise not to meet girls from tinder straight away and talking to them for days/weeks.

Do you really think if Drake sent her a message she wouldn't meet him the next day?

If a girl really is into you, she'd cancel all her plans and see you the same fucking day.

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Good advice +1

Except the part where you advise not to meet girls from tinder straight away and talking to them for days/weeks.

Do you really think if Drake sent her a message she wouldn't meet him the next day?

If a girl really is into you, she'd cancel all her plans and see you the same fucking day.

thanks bro. hope you take action. but no one here is drake . its just something ive noticed from years of doing this method, u need to build at least a lil bit of comfort b4 meeting them

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Turbo cope thread. If you Have a 5/10 face nothing you Do Will Make you attractive to anything but fatties

these things can help your face

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

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Also:
Shit thread by a shit user

 

[JosephGarrot123]

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Also:
Shit thread by a shit user

this nigga said surgery is cope What a bluepilled cuck