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icd looks unbelievably fucked tho can u measure it?
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icd looks unbelievably fucked tho can u measure it?
His fwhr didn’t even look like it increased wtficd looks unbelievably fucked tho can u measure it?
Ur a cuckWhile it's your money and you're happy with what you paid for, tbh if I had the money to afford expensive surgery like that I would rather spend that money on hookermaxxing.
As the great BlkPillPres once said, dating is a waste of time and a gamble and rather than paying to improve one's looks it's better to pay for sex directly even if you're still ugly.
You don't need to change your looks to hookermaxx, you just need the money to pay her price.
Using hookers is the opposite of a cuckUr a cuck
Many people’s lookmaxxing journey has nothing to do with getting laidWhile it's your money and you're happy with what you paid for, tbh if I had the money to afford expensive surgery like that I would rather spend that money on hookermaxxing.
As the great BlkPillPres once said, dating is a waste of time and a gamble and rather than paying to improve one's looks it's better to pay for sex directly even if you're still ugly.
You don't need to change your looks to hookermaxx, you just need the money to pay her price.
Maybe, but it's honestly a waste of time and effort and not really worth it if you still can't get laid.Many people’s lookmaxxing journey has nothing to do with getting laid
I’ve always done well with girls in school etc and only found looksmaxxing because I want to make YouTube videos but I cringe seeing myself on video and want to change certain features that make me self conscious lolMaybe, but it's honestly a waste of time and effort and not really worth it if you still can't get laid.
Most people want to lookmaxx to appeal to women. Otherwise they wouldn't care how they look.
every other reason is a subset of getting laidMany people’s lookmaxxing journey has nothing to do with getting laid
Yeah, but I guess it depends what they want in life.I’ve always done well with girls in school etc and only found looksmaxxing because I want to make YouTube videos but I cringe seeing myself on video and want to change certain features that make me self conscious lol
Looks also affect your career and how you’re treated in general not just for getting laid, and hookers wouldn’t solve the issue of guys who want an actual relationship or marriage/kids
But the crux is most hookers wont fuck you if youre' incel. Some even refused me and directly said not with that face JFL.Hookermaxxing is still fine if you don't care about LTRs and starting a family. Many incels just want sex or at the very least lose their virginities.
I just hope OP doesn’t experience @NecroticGrowth around his eye area.This thread is WILD. Congratulations. Wishing speedy recovery.
How long will this whole process take? All healed up and no swelling
you definitely need a @SeriousAscension to improve your situation.But the crux is most hookers wont fuck you if youre' incel. Some even refused me and directly said not with that face JFL.
At least he's not a @Pakicelyou definitely need a @SeriousAscension to improve your situation.
I guess you are MGTOW now?At least he's not a @Pakicel
Stop kraken jokesI guess you are MGTOW now?
ThisMany people’s lookmaxxing journey has nothing to do with getting laid
what?hell nah
a regular bimax and the classic OBO are not even in the same estratosphere of risk jflHow could lefort III have similar risk to obo I thought obo as risky as bimax wtf
Giant says otherwise broba regular bimax and the classic OBO are not even in the same estratosphere of risk jfl
Thousands of bimax's are performed every year, and only those with critical health problems pior to the operation tend to suffer permanent trauma or die
He's probably talking about this modified OBO versionGiant says otherwise brob
Sorry but, I have no clue what some of these terms are.It was about 30k usd including everything (Design, titanium implant manufacturing, surgery, hospital stay etc.)
Next up is bimax, genio and jaw angle implants. But, I’m also planning on getting a few soft tissue adjustments and potentially limb lengthening in the future.
Yes, the surgery was quite long by itself, it would be too dangerous to combine the two.
No this is a jelqing threadSorry but, I have no clue what some of these terms are.
What exactly did you do?
You're surgery maxxing right?
He's probably talking about this modified OBO version
And even still, a claim like that is kind of a reach imo
The amt of OBO's performed/year is astronomically smaller than the amt of jaw surgeries. You'd need a way bigger sample to know for sure.
You can't really compare a mainstream osteotomy with an obscure procedure like that, altho tbh I don't think this modified OBO is that risky if the planning is well made.
Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.
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Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN
Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area
Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet
View attachment 2679699
All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.
View attachment 2679753
Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.
View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629
Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.
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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.
I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.
We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.
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Designer:
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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==
Surgeon:
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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4
OBO edit:
YepI appreciate the effort but without a before and after this is useless.
Why would anyone get it removed?No, it’s inserted after you have been anaesthetised, you can request to have it removed while you are still under. I didn’t and it was only mildly painful for a few seconds.
Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.
View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747
View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN
Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area
Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet
View attachment 2679699
All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.
View attachment 2679753
Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.
View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629
Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.
View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778
Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.
I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.
We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.
View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789
Designer:
View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==
Surgeon:
View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4
OBO edit:
This isn’t even hard maxing or anything like that this is literally rebirthIt was about 30k usd including everything (Design, titanium implant manufacturing, surgery, hospital stay etc.)
Next up is bimax, genio and jaw angle implants. But, I’m also planning on getting a few soft tissue adjustments and potentially limb lengthening in the future.
Yes, the surgery was quite long by itself, it would be too dangerous to combine the two.
Brutal, I have the exact same ratios (FWHR is 1.75). Hopefully I can get away with just lefort 1A 0.95 midface will only result in a long face look if other ratios are contributing (i.e. IAA angle and FWHR).
Since you had 0.46 ESR and 0.95 mfr, I think its safe to assume your fwhr was on the lower end, even if your brows were low set. So that was indeed the case.
Theoretically you could've gotten away with just hardmaxxing the lower third as much as possible, which would offset the midface harmony problems and bring attention elsewhere. But nevertheless props for going through with this.
CopeThis isn’t even hard maxing or anything like that this is literally rebirth
Yeah if I got it I'd be flexing and posting pics of my eyesOP was online yesterday yet hasn't responded for months, odds suggest OP's brain was removed during surgery and now he's just stuck endlessly staring at a screen, with no concept on how to use his body.
I just jerked off to ur aviYeah if I got it I'd be flexing and posting pics of my eyes
No one is gonna identify him just by his eyes, and no one cares anyway
Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.
View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747
View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN
Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area
Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet
View attachment 2679699
All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.
View attachment 2679753
Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.
View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629
Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.
View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778
Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.
I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.
We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.
View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789
Designer:
View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==
Surgeon:
View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4
OBO edit:
To have what removed bro ?No, it’s inserted after you have been anaesthetised, you can request to have it removed while you are still under. I didn’t and it was only mildly painful for a few seconds.
Yes, recovery is going smoothly. Swelling is still going down and it turns out the strabismus could be entirely attributed to my brain readjusting to the new position of the eyeballs, this was the diagnosis that I recently received from an opthalmologist.Updates, OP u alive?
Yeah sorry I was waiting for the transplant, im backOP was online yesterday yet hasn't responded for months, odds suggest OP's brain was removed during surgery and now he's just stuck endlessly staring at a screen, with no concept on how to use his body.
So you don’t feel the pain of the removal. If you meant not get it removed, then it’s because you can’t really walk for the first hours-days depending on the surgery so you can’t use the bathroomWhy would anyone get it removed?
CatheterTo have what removed bro ?
Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.
View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747
View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN
Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area
Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet
View attachment 2679699
All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.
View attachment 2679753
Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.
View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629
Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.
View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778
Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.
I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.
We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.
View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789
Designer:
View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==
Surgeon:
View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4
OBO edit: