I still can't believe it took until the 2010s for looksmax insights to be freely exchanged. You'd think 50s-90s there would be an outcry. Jock world.

[Deleted member 19944]

You'd think in the 90s at the earliest there would be butthurt angry incels talking about jock culture.

Where were they? Why did it take until the 2010s and social media. surely there should have been angry anxious people even back then talking about these things.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Back in the day women would have sex with anything. Normies weren't complaining, even if a chad jock was getting a little more pussy on the side.

Now women have spiritually transcended their human form and realised they exist on a completely different plane of existence to men. There is a prodigious difference in the dating outlook of a normie male in 1995, compared to 2022.

 

[Deleted member 19944]

Back in the day women would have sex with anything. Normies weren't complaining, even if a chad jock was getting a little more pussy on the side.

Now women have spiritually transcended their human form and realised they exist on a completely different plane of existence to men. There is a prodigious difference in the dating outlook of a normie male in 1995, compared to 2022.

why would they fuck anything tho. lol. i can see them being just as hypergamic.

 

[Deleted member 19944]

Back in the day women would have sex with anything. Normies weren't complaining, even if a chad jock was getting a little more pussy on the side.

Now women have spiritually transcended their human form and realised they exist on a completely different plane of existence to men. There is a prodigious difference in the dating outlook of a normie male in 1995, compared to 2022.

maybe not as hypergamically but they would probably selective in their own circles

 

[copemaxxeer]

why would they fuck anything tho. lol. i can see them being just as hypergamic.

Happened also to me, only thanks to the blackpill and tinder I realized how much of a mogger I really am, I guess social media was that for females

 

[thereallegend]

Lotta old dudes say it was easier in the 90s n 2000s

 

[crosshold]

the internet allowed the exchange of ideas which corroborated people's world views

 

[Deleted member 19944]

the internet allowed the exchange of ideas which corroborated people's world views

yeh but why 2010s instead of late 90s, early 00s.

 

[Deleted member 20379]

You'd think in the 90s at the earliest there would be butthurt angry incels talking about jock culture.

Where were they? Why did it take until the 2010s and social media. surely there should have been angry anxious people even back then talking about these things.

Lookism is a modern mental illness

 

[Deleted member 19944]

Lookism is a modern mental illness

why wouldnt a 5'5 gymcel in the 70s not have it? my dad was one

 

[Deleted member 12002]

You'd think in the 90s at the earliest there would be butthurt angry incels talking about jock culture.

Where were they? Why did it take until the 2010s and social media. surely there should have been angry anxious people even back then talking about these things.

Because of the internet. How the heck would incels find and communicate with one another outside of tech club after school? The internet/search engines didn't really get cooking before 2000's.

 

[Deleted member 20379]

why wouldnt a 5'5 gymcel in the 70s not have it? my dad was one

He fucked your mom

 

[Deleted member 19944]

He fucked your mom

He’s got insecurities


Do you really think men are just supposed to muh masculinity harder than a chad? Losing battlr

 

[Deleted member 19944]

Because of the internet. How the heck would incels find and communicate with one another outside of tech club after school? The internet/search engines didn't really get cooking before 2000's.

Yeah it seemed pretty dead in 2000s tho. All there was was pua hate. Looksmax culture was a reaction to pua it seems. I guess people were blue pilled in the 2000s Because otherwise we’re stupid blue pill pick up artist shit, and no one had any idea about the Black pill. Probably because before then information could have be freely exchanged, and people had more optimistic blue pill outlook, cynicism seems to be amor important thing now, it takes courage to be cynical especially whenever one is lying to you so that you can rot alone

 

[Deleted member 19944]

Yeah it seemed pretty dead in 2000s tho. All there was was pua hate. Looksmax culture was a reaction to pua it seems. I guess people were blue pilled in the 2000s Because otherwise we’re stupid blue pill pick up artist shit, and no one had any idea about the Black pill. Probably because before then information could have be freely exchanged, and people had more optimistic blue pill outlook, cynicism seems to be amor important thing now, it takes courage to be cynical especially whenever one is lying to you so that you can rot alone

People would pretend to be bluepilled

 

[Nerian]

The situation wasn't anywhere near as bad back then. You could still be a normal looking guy and get a girlfriend of equal looks. You could be a 7 and expect to find a 7 gf without extreme effort or luck. Her behavior in the relationship would also be much better because she didn't have easy options from the palm of her hand (Tinder/Instagram orbiters) and constant male attention there too. She had to put in effort. It's not that talked about, but even if you GET a decent looking gf in the current environment, it's still often SHIT because of her behavior.

 

[Deleted member 19944]

The situation wasn't anywhere near as bad back then. You could still be a normal looking guy and get a girlfriend of equal looks. You could be a 7 and expect to find a 7 gf without extreme effort or luck. Her behavior in the relationship would also be much better because she didn't have easy options from the palm of her hand (Tinder/Instagram orbiters) and constant male attention there too. She had to put in effort. It's not that talked about, but even if you GET a decent looking gf in the current environment, it's still often SHIT because of her behavior.

boomers say it's our fault. but is it? or just gaslighting on their part.

Still the situation was p bad in the 00s, I am just saying why in the 90s, 00s was it not that bad. prolly bc social meia didnt take hold yet. I'm jsut semi disappointed it took all of social media to make it a big deal. Before that all we had were misogynist schopenhauer/ nietzsche quotes.

Do you think its bc most men expected to be "big men" and not complain, etc?

 

[HerpDerpson]

Because of the internet. How the heck would incels find and communicate with one another outside of tech club after school? The internet/search engines didn't really get cooking before 2000's.

A guy could have written a book about it and it would be become a cult classic, but nobody did.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

yes it also surprises me that we had nothing useful in the 2000s. the internet was already here, Google already existed, most of the science already existed but all we had was gymcelling, penis enlargement and Jewish men's magazines

 

[Deleted member 16220]

I literally knew I was ugly and hated it WITHOUT any of this shit. As if lookism comes from looksmax.org, no, it comes from GENETICS.

it’s like the age old argument on the origin of morality. morality comes from BIOLOGY not from god, in the same way lookism stems from BIOLOGY not an ideology.

 

[Deleted member 19944]

I mean as soon as the internet hit in the early 2000s, i wonder why it took another 10+ years for things to get rolling with this

 

[crosshold]

I mean as soon as the internet hit in the early 2000s, i wonder why it took another 10+ years for things to get rolling with this

well hypergamy wasnt in full swing yet so people werent complaining as much yet. after online dating and social media became more prominent, womens standards started changing rapidly to where men were having even less success. also forums and these types of discussions were not socially normal in the beginning and slowly became moreso as time went on

 

[Deleted member 19944]

well hypergamy wasnt in full swing yet so people werent complaining as much yet. after online dating and social media became more prominent, womens standards started changing rapidly to where men were having even less success. also forums and these types of discussions were not socially normal in the beginning and slowly became moreso as time went on

but people actually believed in pua was the funniest thing back then. didn't they? in the 00s. which is why it had its heyday.

were people just not able to blackpill themselves since the internet wasnt around long enough to have a comfortable platform where they could at least approach the subject matter as a stream instead of figure it out for themselves raw. taht would be painful prolly.

also ER apparently brought a lot of attention to it, bubble burst?

why wouldnt hypergamy be huge in the 00s? a lot of women were cunts even then. I guess feminism didnt overtake.

 

[crosshold]

but people actually believed in pua was the funniest thing back then. didn't they? in the 00s. which is why it had its heyday.

were people just not able to blackpill themselves since the internet wasnt around long enough to have a comfortable platform where they could at least approach the subject matter as a stream instead of figure it out for themselves raw. taht would be painful prolly.

also ER apparently brought a lot of attention to it, bubble burst?

why wouldnt hypergamy be huge in the 00s? a lot of women were cunts even then. I guess feminism didnt overtake.

look there are a lot of micro factors that come into play, i cant name them all. the manosphere went through different phases of coping on how to get women

pua>bodybuilding>redpill>blackpill

 

[Deleted member 16133]

i get HELLA girls nigga

 

[Deleted member 19944]

look there are a lot of micro factors that come into play, i cant name them all. the manosphere went through different phases of coping on how to get women

pua>bodybuilding>redpill>blackpill

why did pua actually work on people in 2000s? no blackpill at all anywhere.

 

[crosshold]

why did pua actually work on people in 2000s? no blackpill at all anywhere.

pua worked because women had lower standards and could be gamed more easily

 

[Deleted member 19944]

pua worked because women had lower standards and could be gamed more easily

idk abotu that lol. Were they just more drawn to money? or "confidence"

I mean I doubt everything is "social media opened up way more options for avg girls to get their dream"

 

[crosshold]

idk abotu that lol. Were they just more drawn to money? or "confidence"

I mean I doubt everything is "social media opened up way more options for avg girls to get their dream"

like i said there are tons of microfactors that we cant even name. youre thinking too much into this

 

[klamus]

Because things werent Bad before Tinder

 

[DeathlyAware]

Two reasons:
Online Dating
Social media
Those have exposed us to the brutal reality when they enabled women to pick and choose the best.

 

[Max Frauder]

You'd think in the 90s at the earliest there would be butthurt angry incels talking about jock culture.

Where were they? Why did it take until the 2010s and social media. surely there should have been angry anxious people even back then talking about these things.

Don't you young ass niggas remember the 80s?