Ideal facial ratios and proportions

[SexuallyAbusive]

It’s funny how I have none of these.

 

[RealTruecel]

didn't read don't have any of them

 

[Pipilika]

Dont measure your proportions in the pictures ,that s profoundly inaccurate ,measure only on your live face
A plastic surgeon dont take measurements in pics only on live patients

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

@SexuallyAbusive shouldnt it be more like 1.1? 1.35 looks like a narrow jaw, not like a dom square face

bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

@SexuallyAbusive

from mommaerts 2016 " the ideal male jaw"

Please update this ratio @Lorsss

 

[Lorsss]

@SexuallyAbusive

from mommaerts 2016 " the ideal male jaw"

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Please update this ratio @Lorsss

human face is not only represented by 2D ratios

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

human face is not only represented by 2D ratios

Still a 1.1 byzygo/bigonial ratio looks way more masculine than 1.35 from op.... Even in motion

This is another thread why the 1.1 ratio would be superior to the 1.35

Bigonial width - often neglected but one of the MOST IMPORTANT factors for facial attractiveness and harmony

This isn't talked about enough here imo. Bigonial width is the distance between the two gonions (the edges of the mandible where it meets the ramus). It determines how wide the lower jaw looks from the front. If your bigonial width is a lot lower than your interzygomatic width (distance between...

looksmax.org

This is the study from dr mommaerts

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maurice_Mommaerts2/publication/291384320_The_ideal_male_jaw_angle_-_An_Internet_survey/links/5a51054da6fdcc769001f158/The-ideal-male-jaw-angle-An-Internet-survey.pdf

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Keep ignoring me @SexuallyAbusive @Lorsss

1.1 bizygo/bigonial ratio

1.35 bizygo/bigonial



Please update the ratio

@BonesAndHarmony would you agree?

 

[BonesAndHarmony]

Keep ignoring me @SexuallyAbusive @Lorsss

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1.1 bizygo/bigonial ratio


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1.35 bizygo/bigonial



Please update the ratio

@BonesAndHarmony would you agree?

O' Pry has a wide bigonial widht actually, as wide as Chico more or less

 

[Deleted member 1338]

I have similar ratio to O'pry my midface isn't too compact and lower third isn't too fucked up long.

 

[Davidjolski]

I would look so good if I wasn't a chinlet, hopefully mewing will fix my gonial angle, chin to philtrum ratio, cervicomental angle and bizygomatic to bigonial width, everything else looks pretty good ngl

 

[Nisse]

This was lifefuel tbh

 

[Tyronecell]

sorry for my dumbness, but how can i measure my ratios face, is there any app or someting??

 

[Deleted member 1849]

great thread tbh.

 

[Sikkunt23]

sorry for my dumbness, but how can i measure my ratios face, is there any app or someting??

PicsArt crop tool

 

[Tyronecell]

PicsArt crop tool

thanks OP

 

[Lawyer]

The ideal cervicomental angle range is actually 90º - 120º

Submental-Cervical Angle: Perceived Attractiveness and Threshold Values of Desire for Surgery - PubMed

These ranges of normal variability of the submental-cervical angle and threshold values of desire for surgery, in terms of observer acceptance, should be considered by clinicians in planning mandibular orthognathic surgery and aesthetic surgical procedures of the submental-cervical region.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Other than that, good thread.

 

[Usum]

Good way to simulate better ratios : check yourself in a car's window.
I'll sign immediately.

 

[s3-s3]

Why did you tire yourself writing this bigass paragraph? Just post a picture of Alain delon and you’re good

 

[TITUS]

Hello gentlemans,
Sorry to bother you with my post, but i have been shitposting for days and finally i got this section unlocked. I just wanted to tell you that i appreciate all you gentlemen for sharing this valuable knowledge, and that i will do my best to looxmax and achieve ascension, in this life or the next.
Regards.
TITUS.

 

[GigaMogger]

Rodeblurrian proportions fog

 

[CommanderCope]

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Facial thirds are pointless, you can have a long midface even with perfect facial thirds. The width of your facial fifths determine so much of your face from IPD, midface ratio to fwhr etc. Facial fifths on their own don't do anything if they are too narrow.

 

[GigaMogger]

 

[6’1cel]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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can any1 calculate my fwhr
i got it as 1,6 but i would have expected atleast 2

 

[Deleted member 8165]

i feel like i have 90% of these things but still subhuman

 

[Deleted member 12165]

me rn

Laughs if you have all these, and yet still don't have a gf

 

[mogstar]

@higgabigga I literally only have chin to philtrum jfl

 

[Deleted member 10185]

i feel like i have 90% of these things but still subhuman

You are under heavy fat.. You probably ascend when you get 15-18% bodyfat.

 

[Deleted member 8244]

Gonna use these with my gta online character

 

[Deleted member 12611]

forehead height: 3 fingers

Over for me (though you can just fraud with curly tiktok hair).

 

[Deleted member 9787]

my lips b too pouty

 

[.👽.]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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where do these numbers come from

 

[oatmeal]

where do these numbers come from

that's actually a good point lol

probably from his esshole idk

 

[Deleted member 15305]

@badg96

 

[Henry77]

True, but I've never seen a good jaw on a guy with 130 degrees +. Look at Christian Bale, literally ruins his lower third.

My golonial angle is 115°? Is it ok.and my fwhr is 179, is it ok too?

 

[Chowdog]

 

[SteveRogers]

My golonial angle is 115°? Is it ok.and my fwhr is 179, is it ok too?

For sure, mogger

 

[Henry77]

For sure, mogger

Thanks dude

 

[sergeant blackpill]

This is lifefuel i have ideal proportions except facial thirds

 

[Deleted member 15338]

i need a better
mouth to nose and gonial tbh

Xd

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Stacy everytime she looks at a man:

 

[Hypno]

Out of my mind

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

This is lifefuel i have ideal proportions except facial thirds

Facial thirds are cope

Lower third should be longer than the other two

 

[casadebanho]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Everything about this post seems right expect for 1 thing that is very clearly wrong.

Bizygo to bigonial ratio

And I know that my 1:1 bizygo bigonial isn't ideal, but the ideal isnt fucking 1:0.7, that looks like shit jfl

ideal for man is 1:0.9

 

[Sabaen]

how do i measure my own. Can one of u nerds create a app

 

[HerpDerpson]

chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Is that really the best way? Not going from the chin to the bottom of the lower lip and from the nose to the top of the upset lip? Because of fluctuations in lip size.

 

[thecel]

Is that really the best way? Not going from the chin to the bottom of the lower lip and from the nose to the top of the upset lip? Because of fluctuations in lip size.

Measuring to the middle of the lips is the best way because of fluctuations in lip size.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Measuring to the middle of the lips is the best way because of fluctuations in lip size.

Does upper lip count as a part of the philtrum then?

 

[thecel]

Does upper lip count as a part of the philtrum then?

no

 

[HerpDerpson]

no

But you count it as a part of it when measuring the radio?