Ideal facial ratios and proportions

[thecel]

But you count it as a part of it when measuring the radio?

{bottom of chin to mid-lips} divided by {mid-lips to bottom of nose} really is the upper lower third to lower lower third ratio (I just made this up; I hope there’s a shorter name for it)

{bottom of chin to bottom of lower lip} divided by {top of upper lip to bottom of nose} is the chin-to-philtrum ratio.

 

[HerpDerpson]

{bottom of chin to mid-lips} divided by {mid-lips to bottom of nose} really is the upper lower third to lower lower third ratio

{bottom of chin to bottom of lower lip} divided by {top of upper lip to bottom of nose} is the chin-to-philtrum ratio.

Okay thanks. The makes sense.

 

[HerpDerpson]

One thing that never gets mentioned is the length of the nose relative to the length of the philtrum. Just look at this guy:

 

[pcmaxing]

Very good thread

 

[NoLimitMo]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

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I’m good in all of these

 

[Dystopian]

I’m good in all of these

 

[NoLimitMo]

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You good?

 

[Debetro]

 

[indiedude1]

1.95 fwhr, 15cm bigonial, 68mm IPD. A10 eyes. 4 finger forehead (will get hair transplant to widows peak for 3).

 

[Blackgymmax]

Hahha
Fwr 1,92
Lower/full face ratio 0,63
Midface ratio 1,05
Mouth to nose ratio 1,45(but i have tense ld lips)
Upper to lower lip, have tensed lips cant be accurate
Philtrrum to chin ratio 2,4
Bizygomatic to begonia 1,23
Esr 0,473
Facial thirds almost efect, uper and middle are same, lower îs longer
Fifth PARTS perfect

Cant calculate Angeles.


This is pic i used. Printscreened from video 2-3 metters away. Calculate some Angeles for me if you want too tho.

Holy shit he looks like chico

 

[FutureChadronelite]

Holy shit he looks like chico

the legend himself

 

[Enoxxx]

What app do u use to measure or software?

 

[v0zifyy]

Nice man

how do you measure these things online ?

 

[LooksThinker]

FWHR: 1.85
Midface ratio: 1.038
Mouth/nose: 1.45
Lower/upper lip ratio: 1.333
Chin to philtrum ratio: 1.7
Gonial angle: 125degree
eme angle: 49.5degree
e.s ratio: 0.475
Canthal tilt: 6degree
Eyebrow tilt: 5-6degree
Jaw frontal angle: 85degree
nasal tip angle: 35degree
nose length/width: 1.43
Nose/zygo ratio: 0.248

 

[darktriadmogger123]

FWHR: 1.85
Midface ratio: 1.038
Mouth/nose: 1.45
Lower/upper lip ratio: 1.333
Chin to philtrum ratio: 1.7
Gonial angle: 125degree
eme angle: 49.5degree
e.s ratio: 0.475
Canthal tilt: 6degree
Eyebrow tilt: 5-6degree
Jaw frontal angle: 85degree
nasal tip angle: 35degree
nose length/width: 1.43
Nose/zygo ratio: 0.248

FWHR; 1.875 is more specified but great list bro

 

[LooksThinker]

FWHR; 1.875 is more specified but great list bro

My fwhr changes a lot because i´m not sure which method is correct way to count it.

 

[ongongfr]

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My fwhr changes a lot because i´m not sure which method is correct way to count it.

eah same

 

[Mainstream]

Chico confirmed deformed!

Facial width to height 1.75, nose to lip 1.35, forehead merely 0.9 of lower and middle thirds!

 

[LooksThinker]

Chico confirmed deformed!

Facial width to height 1.75, nose to lip 1.35, forehead merely 0.9 of lower and middle thirds!

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ain´t that distorted pic? But yeah chicos "harmony" is overrated.

 

[Mainstream]

ain´t that distorted pic? But yeah chicos "harmony" is overrated.

Wouldn't exactly say so, he does pass the following with flying colors:
- Midface ratio
- Chin to philtrum
- Eye separation
- Eye mouth angle
- Gonial angle
- Facial fifths

Additionally, he passes many additional ones I happen to know about:
- Jaw width 80-90% of cheekbone width
- Head shape (1.35 height to 1 cheekbone width)
- Nose width below 1/3.5 of cheekbone width
- Eyes 3 times wider than high
- Forehead two times wider than high

It's more a reminder even the best of us fail some ratios. And his failos are ultimately minor.

 

[LooksThinker]

Wouldn't exactly say so, he does pass the following with flying colors:
- Midface ratio
- Chin to philtrum
- Eye separation
- Eye mouth angle
- Gonial angle
- Facial fifths

Additionally, he passes many additional ones I happen to know about:
- Jaw width 80-90% of cheekbone width
- Head shape (1.35 height to 1 cheekbone width)
- Nose width below 1/3.5 of cheekbone width
- Eyes 3 times wider than high
- Forehead two times wider than high

It's more a reminder even the best of us fail some ratios. And his failos are ultimately minor.

Yeah he has 90% harmony.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Yeah he has 90% harmony.

Would you rather be chico or Jason momao?

 

[LooksThinker]

Would you rather be chico or Jason momao?

Chico, i´m used to my prettyboy like appeal so i would feel weird if i was momao.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Chico, i´m used to my prettyboy like appeal so i would feel weird if i was momao.

What's your mouth to nose width ratio?

 

[LooksThinker]

Would you rather be chico or Jason momao?

Btw is that "jbw" phenomenon true in China?
Like were chinese girls like white men more than chinese.

 

[LooksThinker]

What's your mouth to nose width ratio?

1.4+ something

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Btw is that "jbw" phenomenon true in China?
Like were chinese girls like white men more than chinese.

It prob is tbh

 

[Phillybeard1996]

1.4+ something

I wonder if you have me beat in that area I remember mines also use to be like 1.44 time the nose

 

[LooksThinker]

It prob is tbh

Have you experienced it yourself?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Have you experienced it yourself?

Na asian women love me

 

[LooksThinker]

I wonder if you have me beat in that area I remember mines also use to be like 1.44 time the nose

My ratio looks like to be bigger like 1.5+ but it´s suprisingly small.

 

[LooksThinker]

I wonder if you have me beat in that area I remember mines also use to be like 1.44 time the nose

You have like 0.1+ better ratio so it´s basically just tie.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

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My ratio looks like to be bigger like 1.5+ but it´s suprisingly small.

Measure mine lol

 

[LooksThinker]

Measure mine lol

Nvm i thought you measured your already.

You don´t have that good ratio according to that photo.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Nvm i thought you measured your already.
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You don´t have that good ratio according to that photo.

Yea it's prob my nose is somewhat wide also

 

[Deleted member 19968]

Yea it's prob my nose is somewhat wide also

Its decent ratio for asian men

 

[LooksThinker]

@zDadun why were you jfling my posts?

 

[AfricanPsycho]

How do I measure?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Wouldn't exactly say so, he does pass the following with flying colors:
- Midface ratio
- Chin to philtrum
- Eye separation
- Eye mouth angle
- Gonial angle
- Facial fifths

Additionally, he passes many additional ones I happen to know about:
- Jaw width 80-90% of cheekbone width
- Head shape (1.35 height to 1 cheekbone width)
- Nose width below 1/3.5 of cheekbone width
- Eyes 3 times wider than high
- Forehead two times wider than high

It's more a reminder even the best of us fail some ratios. And his failos are ultimately minor.

Is my jaw to cheekbone width ideal? I have wide ass cheekbones

 

[Jojobarret]

FWHR: 1.88

Lower/Fullface ratio: 0.67

Midface ratio: 1.05

Mouth to nose: 1.59

Lower to upper lip: 1.5

Chin to philtrum: 1.8

Bizygo to bigonial: 1.02

ESR: 0.49

EME angle: 49º

Cerviconmental angle: 104º

Gonial angle: 121º

Canthal tilt: 5.7º

Palpebral fissure length to height: 3.35

Forehead height: 3.2 (fingers)

Facial thirds: 0.35 (low), 0.3 (mid), 0.33 (top) (rounded from 5 digit decimals, taking into account 1 as the whole face)

Facial fifths: 0.2 (all fifths, rounded from 5 digit decimals, taking into account 1 as the whole)


Measured with those three pics, with low to no camera distortion (third pic has bit of distortion since its front cam but used only for canthal tilt and fissure width to height)
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Tf you´re doing here nigga just get a haircut and enjoy banging sluts in raves unless suffering from manletism

 

[Father47]

Thank you

 

[synock21]

Chico confirmed deformed!

Facial width to height 1.75, nose to lip 1.35, forehead merely 0.9 of lower and middle thirds!

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i think if you have hair that covers the forehead the only way thing that matters is that your two lower thirds are equal

 

[blackout_96_]

ideal FWHR is 1.8.-2.1
ideal midface ratio is 0.95-1.05
ideal lower to upper lip ratio is 1.5
ideal chin to philtrum ratio is 2.2-3
ideal ESR is 0.45-0.48
ideal canthal tilt is neutral-6 degrees

THESE ARE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS

Also ratios do not matter that much, I have 0.94 midface ratio, chin to philtrum 2.05 and my ESR is 42%, recessed chin and canthal tilt is slightly above ideal and I still managed to fuck a couple of htb

 

[PedroFavelinha]

ratios do not matter that much

least blue pilled normie on .org

 

[blackout_96_]

least blue pilled normie on .org

u can see that in my example, my ESR and chin is a death sentence but anyway

 

[PedroFavelinha]

u can see that in my example, my ESR and chin is a death sentence but anyway

yeah but saying ratios do not matter much is craaazyy

 

[Hortensia]

I made an image of a man with following these ratios

 

[Mainstream]

I'm considering writing an even more detailed version of this with 50 ratios, because these are too few

 

[niggersodomizer69]

FWHR: 1.88

Lower/Fullface ratio: 0.67

Midface ratio: 1.05

Mouth to nose: 1.59

Lower to upper lip: 1.5

Chin to philtrum: 1.8

Bizygo to bigonial: 1.02

ESR: 0.49

EME angle: 49º

Cerviconmental angle: 104º

Gonial angle: 121º

Canthal tilt: 5.7º

Palpebral fissure length to height: 3.35

Forehead height: 3.2 (fingers)

Facial thirds: 0.35 (low), 0.3 (mid), 0.33 (top) (rounded from 5 digit decimals, taking into account 1 as the whole face)

Facial fifths: 0.2 (all fifths, rounded from 5 digit decimals, taking into account 1 as the whole)


Measured with those three pics, with low to no camera distortion (third pic has bit of distortion since its front cam but used only for canthal tilt and fissure width to height)
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Isn't you ESR shit then?

 

[niggersodomizer69]

The ideal bizygomatic to bigonial width subbosedly being 1.35 seems like a cope of jawless low T's, but OK