Islam is the only religion based enough to prevent whoredom and inceldom

[Gengar]

Islam protects whores. It is forbidden to ask a woman if she has a body count prior to marriage. Exposing sins is haram.

No it's not. But it's unironically what these degenerates believe and what soy sheikhs promote.

 

[jattlife]

No it's not. But it's unironically what these degenerates believe and what soy sheikhs promote.

Show me a source showing that it’s halal to ask women if they’re virgin before marriage

 

[Gengar]

Idk why muslims do that tbh, if it isn't even required. And idk why jews and americans do it either, just really weird

It's because they think it's required, when it's not. It really is just the way of the Prophet which they want to replicate, but that's completely optional. The Prophet was born without a foreskin and that's why muzzies cut it off. But it has no actual basis in Islam as a religious requirement. And yet too many low IQ muzzies think it's a must and even tell reverts to snip it off when they don't even have to. Do you now see why I dislike muzzies so much, even more than your average islamophobe? They're just too insufferable.

 

[Gengar]

Show me a source showing that it’s halal to ask women if they’re virgin before marriage

What do you know? You're not even Islamic.

 

[jattlife]

What do you know? You're not even Islamic.

I know that muhammeds first wife was a blown out 40 yo with a body count

 

[Gengar]

Her father rejected him but the girl said she has to obey the order of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ

It was her mother who rejected him, not her father.

 

[einzigartig]

dude u are jewish u have no privilege to type here just stfu

Tjen you have polygyny so we know islam dosent help

 

[Gengar]

I know that muhammeds first wife was a blown out 40 yo hoe with a body count

Yeah but you're a kafircel so I don't know why you are coping like the hoes do.

 

[einzigartig]

there are* too*

no it won't help the gap their already to many men and womrn are more likely to be less horny so more likely to be virgin. Polygyny is gonna increase the incel rate . Polygyny needs to be banned

 

[thenewhebbe]

dude u are jewish u have no privilege to type here just stfu

Stop lying.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

It was her mother who rejected him, not her father.

no it was her father

 

[Gengar]

It agrees with what I said If prophet wasn’t there she would be disgusted at the thought of even marrying him prophet saved julaybeeb brutal then he died in the battle shortly after so they barely consummated the marriage

yeah obviously the point is he was incel and women were replused by him but the Prophet ﷺ saved him from inceldom

You gahdamn simps disgust me! Why do you have to make it about women? It's always women with you guys. Can you not remember Julaybib for the fact that when he was slain on the battlefield, he was forgotten about everyone except for the Prophet who asked where is Julaybib, looked for him and found him and weeped for his friend? That's more beautiful than arranging a marriage for a truecel if you ask me. It should highlight the prophet's beautiful characteristics rather than that some truecel got to slay an htb.

 

[Gengar]

no it was her father

It was her mother. Go read it.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

It was her mother. Go read it.

"Ziyad said, ‘We do not give our young girls in marriage to anyone, unless he is a good match for us of the people of al-Ansar (people of al-Medina); so you must go back, O Jowaiber, until I meet the Messenger of Allah and inform him of my excuse.’"

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Those were laws from the legal sense for the empire and not what God has made the law to be. Yeah these laws may largely align with mosaic ideals but it ignores many of the laws that Jesus has commanded to be kept.


You know that doesn't really mean anything.
"Moral sense" is extremely vague and so if "earthly".
Christ literally taught you to keep the Torah, ask any relevant modern scholar.

The thing is unlike Islam Christianity is not an “legal” based religion it’s a faith. It’s encouraged that our laws be based upon the moral interpretations of the law so if adultery is a sin it’s allowed for a Christian ruler to make it illegal to sin however the same way Jesus didn’t kill the adulterous woman we ought not to kill an woman for adultery but she ought to be punished regardless.

This can carry from nation to nation but as I said all laws are based upon this teaching even in the west such laws are based on it. Institutionally the west is still semi Christian. This doesn’t make the modern west correct or Justinian’s law incorrect both are correct in the sense that laws were made to correspond with the morality the people knew off and I’d say that’s better because this view means that unlike Muslims who have a rigid system for example us Christian’s are able to create laws that reflect the growth of technology as tech improves we learn some things as bad for example fuckinf your cousin is bad and shown by science we Christian’s can make it illegal now due to this as it’s a form of abominable act yet Muslims cannot do this as their laws are rigid and not topological.

And yes we do keep to the Torah… the bible includes the Old Testament you realise this right? And yes it’s true Jesus never changed the law he is the law and the fulfilment of the law and he gave a true reflection on how the law ought to be interpreted and that’s how we Christian’s keep the law.

 

[Deleted member 72469]

If it was allowed everywhere more people would do it tjen just arabs. Chads might take 4 . And chadlite take 3 or 2 .

It happens in the west with chad banging tons of girls

 

[Gengar]

"Ziyad said, ‘We do not give our young girls in marriage to anyone, unless he is a good match for us of the people of al-Ansar (people of al-Medina); so you must go back, O Jowaiber, until I meet the Messenger of Allah and inform him of my excuse.’"

Wrong.

“I do not want her for myself,” added the Prophet (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam). “Then for whom, O Messenger of Allah?” asked the man, obviously somewhat let down. “For Julaybib,” said the Prophet. The Ansari must have been too shocked to give his own reaction and he merely said: “I will consult with her mother.” And off he went to his wife. “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, wants to have your daughter married,” he said to her. She too was thrilled. “What a wonderful idea and what a delight to the eye (this would be),” she said. “He does not want to marry her himself but he wants to marry her to Julaybib,” he added. She was flabbergasted.
“To Julaybib! No, never to Julaybib! No, by Allah, we shall not marry (her) to him,” she protested.​

 

[Deleted member 28459]

They didn’t ban sex to prevent inceldom tho. They did it so incel low class people can COPE to theirselves that they will go to heaven for not fucking. All while Mohammad brought down orders from Allah to fuck his ex slaves wife

I’m convinced nothing invented by non-white people is good. Be it religion, tech, etc.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Wrong.

“I do not want her for myself,” added the Prophet (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam). “Then for whom, O Messenger of Allah?” asked the man, obviously somewhat let down. “For Julaybib,” said the Prophet. The Ansari must have been too shocked to give his own reaction and he merely said: “I will consult with her mother.” And off he went to his wife. “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, wants to have your daughter married,” he said to her. She too was thrilled. “What a wonderful idea and what a delight to the eye (this would be),” she said. “He does not want to marry her himself but he wants to marry her to Julaybib,” he added. She was flabbergasted.
“To Julaybib! No, never to Julaybib! No, by Allah, we shall not marry (her) to him,” she protested.​

sunni hadith

probably was her mom but its not mentioned in the shia narration

 

[Gengar]

sunni hadith

probably was her mom but its not mentioned in the shia narration

Jfl at this obsession with sunnis. I just googled the story and didn't look at if it's sunni or shia. Either way in this case it doesn't matter as the story is not of religious nature but rather a beautiful story. Women hate truecels the most so it makes sense it's the mother. Men always have some kinda sympathy for truecels (barring inkwells, of course).

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Jfl at this obsession with sunnis. I just googled the story and didn't look at if it's sunni or shia. Either way in this case it doesn't matter as the story is not of religious nature but rather a beautiful story. Women hate truecels the most so it makes sense it's the mother. Men always have some kinda sympathy for truecels (barring inkwells, of course).

nigga its not about obsession its just i dont know if the sunni hadith is reliable and authentically transmitted but i do with the shia one

julaybib died before shia vs sunni even began jfl

 

[MaghrebGator]

there was an incel sahabi Julaybib who the Prophet ﷺ got married to one of the most beautiful girls in Medina

Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) cared about and found a wife to this involuntary celibate of his time

His name was unusual and incomplete. Julaybib (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) means “small grown” being the diminutive form of the word “Jalbab.” The name is an indication that Julaybib was small and short, even of dwarf-like stature. More than that, he is described as being “damim” which means ugly...

looksmax.org

 

[kam246]

are you married?

 

[Gengar]

nigga its not about obsession its just i dont know if the sunni hadith is reliable and authentically transmitted but i do with the shia one

julaybib died before shia vs sunni even began jfl

Yeah but it doesn't matter in the long run as it's not religious in nature, it's just a heartwarming story that shows the good side of the Prophet. But muzzies of today are nothing like the man they strive to be. Bunch of shitheads they are.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

As for the adulterous woman story. Its inclusion is rejected by scholars and has been shown to be a later input. It probably never happened.

Nope the story actually happened the debate is whether it’s where it should be placed because the earlier manuscripts have it in Luke as well as John. Essentially the Story happened but is outside of chronological order and it probably doesn’t belong in John but the story remains regardless as something that happened hence why it has been passed down through oral tradition and was mentioned by Irineas or whatever this name is as an early disciple of John

 

[Gengar]

Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) cared about and found a wife to this involuntary celibate of his time

His name was unusual and incomplete. Julaybib (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) means “small grown” being the diminutive form of the word “Jalbab.” The name is an indication that Julaybib was small and short, even of dwarf-like stature. More than that, he is described as being “damim” which means ugly...

looksmax.org

Oh lol we used the same source.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Yeah but it doesn't matter in the long run as it's not religious in nature, it's just a heartwarming story that shows the good side of the Prophet. But muzzies of today are nothing like the man they strive to be. Bunch of shitheads they are.

true

"good side of the Prophet ﷺ"
wtf are you saying nigga are you implying there was a bad side

 

[Gengar]

true

"good side of the Prophet ﷺ"
wtf are you saying nigga are you implying there was a bad side

Actually, yes, there were sometimes less favorable sides, which is attested in the Qur'an. You are not going to try and argue against the Qur'an, are you now?

 

[Gengar]

@shia.jihadist You just committed kufr. Shia moment.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Actually, yes, there were sometimes less favorable sides, which is attested in the Qur'an. You are not going to try and argue against the Qur'an, are you now?

dont tell me you believe surah abasa was about the Prophet ﷺ bro

 

[Gengar]

dont tell me you believe surah abasa was about the Prophet ﷺ bro

Don't act like you're Arabic and I am Arabic, and instead provide the Surah you are referring to.

 

[robert3]

One gender faces virtually zero limitations for receiving sex. Members of this gender can be ugly, super short or tall, obese, old, broke, have zero personality and confidence and still have as much sex as they want, with men higher than their level.

Meanwhile the other gender faces very high limitations pertaining to looks, height, physique, lifestyle, personality etc to have opportunities for sex and reproduction.

In a sexually liberated and open society which gender will end up monopolizing acesss to sex and reproduction? Women. Men are deprived. The balance between both genders is lost.

Previous societies using the timeless and divine authority of religion recognised the nature of men and women. The feminist movement has caused untold damage. Theese previous societies were not "backwards" as modern feminists would have you believe. That mentality is exactly what is needed to save men and women. Unfortunately it's totally over for the non-Muslim world and even some Muslim countries. They have totally swallowed this secular godless framework. The shari'ah will restore the natural balance between both genders and stop women whoring out. There are a few simple solutions that will solve this conflict literally overnight:

1. Ban alcohol and close bars / nightclubs
2. Public execution of every LGBTQ+ fag

sounds like a society benefitting from rapeslaves?
how about we let fags do their own thing and just kill all the Muslim adults? they're too far gone maybe let the women who denounce their religion live if that would work. deadass scum of the earth

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Don't act like you're Arabic and I am Arabic, and instead provide the Surah you are referring to.

i literally told you its surah abasa

but what surahs are you talking about

 

[Gengar]

i literally told you its surah abasa

but what surahs are you talking about

Send me a link to the surah, since you were the one who mentioned it. I don't know the name of the surah I am talking about either. Perhaps we are talking about the same one.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Send me a link to the surah, since you were the one who mentioned it. I don't know the name of the surah I am talking about either. Perhaps we are talking about the same one.

nigga you know you can just search it up
here

Surah 'Abasa - 1-42 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah 'Abasa. The Surah was revealed in Mecca, ordered 80 in the Quran. The Surah title means "He Frowned" in English and consists ...

quran.com

 

[Gengar]

nigga you know you can just search it up
here

Surah 'Abasa - 1-42 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah 'Abasa. The Surah was revealed in Mecca, ordered 80 in the Quran. The Surah title means "He Frowned" in English and consists ...

quran.com

I know, but you brought it up. I'll read it now.

 

[Gengar]

nigga you know you can just search it up
here

Surah 'Abasa - 1-42 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah 'Abasa. The Surah was revealed in Mecca, ordered 80 in the Quran. The Surah title means "He Frowned" in English and consists ...

quran.com

Yes, that's the one! It shows that even prophets can make mistakes (unknowingly!).

 

[african_subhuman]

Islam promotes inceldom you retard

 

[MaghrebGator]

Actually, yes, there were sometimes less favorable sides, which is attested in the Qur'an. You are not going to try and argue against the Qur'an, are you now?

i literally told you its surah abasa

but what surahs are you talking about

He means when Allah corrected the Prophet's behaviour and choice when he didn’t attend the old man while he was talking with other people

Surah Abasa
Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): "He frowned and turned his back when the blind man came to him. How could you tell? He might have sought to purify himself. He might have been forewarned and the reminder might have profited him. But to the one who considered himself self-sufficient you were all attention. Yet the fault would not be yours if he remained uncleansed. As to him who comes to you with zeal and with a feeling of fear in his heart him you ignore and busy yourself with tribes. No indeed ! This is an admonition; let him who will, bear it in mind."

Prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon them) committed small amounts of small sins during their lifetimes but never big sins unless it was unintentional like Musa killing a man, and other few exceptional cases after which they sought repentance

I remembered it because i use this verse among lot of other text as evidence that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) didn't fabricate revelation since it went against him (On a purely materialistic selfish view) several times.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

He means when Allah corrected the Prophet's behaviour and choice when he didn’t attend the old man while he was talking with other people

Surah al Qasas
Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): "He frowned and turned his back when the blind man came to him. How could you tell? He might have sought to purify himself. He might have been forewarned and the reminder might have profited him. But to the one who considered himself self-sufficient you were all attention. Yet the fault would not be yours if he remained uncleansed. As to him who comes to you with zeal and with a feeling of fear in his heart him you ignore and busy yourself with tribes. No indeed ! This is an admonition; let him who will, bear it in mind."

Prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon them) committed small amounts of small sins during their lifetimes but never big sins unless it was unintentional like Musa killing a man, and other few exceptional cases after which they sought repentance

I remembered it because i use this verse among lot of other text as evidence that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) didn't fabricate revelation since it went against him (On a purely materialistic selfish view) several times.

Yes, that's the one! It shows that even prophets can make mistakes (unknowingly!).

yeah i know but that interpretation is incorrect

the surah was not revealed for the Prophet ﷺ but rather Uthman ibn Affan one of the umayyad elders

 

[Gengar]

He means when Allah corrected the Prophet's behaviour and choice when he didn’t attend the old man while he was talking with other people

Surah Abasa
Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): "He frowned and turned his back when the blind man came to him. How could you tell? He might have sought to purify himself. He might have been forewarned and the reminder might have profited him. But to the one who considered himself self-sufficient you were all attention. Yet the fault would not be yours if he remained uncleansed. As to him who comes to you with zeal and with a feeling of fear in his heart him you ignore and busy yourself with tribes. No indeed ! This is an admonition; let him who will, bear it in mind."

Prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon them) committed small amounts of small sins during their lifetimes but never big sins unless it was unintentional like Musa killing a man, and other few exceptional cases after which they sought repentance

I remembered it because i use this verse among lot of other text as evidence that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) didn't fabricate revelation since it went against him (On a purely materialistic selfish view) several times.

Exactly, this is the only example I can think of, which comes from the holy book itself.

 

[MaghrebGator]

yeah i know but that interpretation is incorrect

the surah was not revealed for the Prophet ﷺ but rather Uthman ibn Affan one of the umayyad elders

That is the interpretation of shia islam.

However i would never say any of the Prophets have a dark side @Gengar bhai, given the connotations of the word in today's world

 

[Gengar]

yeah i know but that interpretation is incorrect

the surah was not revealed for the Prophet ﷺ but rather Uthman ibn Affan one of the umayyad elders

The Quran consists of revelations from God to the Prophet. Why would this chapter be revealed to anyone else? Otherwise it would have named the person in question as it always does in the Qur'an.

 

[mayo mogger]

thats why ethnic societies are geneticall inferior

blacks and whites dominate just due to hypergamy leading to better genetics

good luck reaching average 6'1 height with allowing subhumans to have 4 wives

 

[Gengar]

That is the interpretation of shia islam.

However i would never say any of the Prophets have a dark side @Gengar bhai, given the connotations of the word in today's world

Yes, of course bhai. I am just seeing it as something that shows anyone can make a mistake sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

The Quran consists of revelations from God to the Prophet. Why would this chapter be revealed to anyone else? Otherwise it would have named the person in question as it always does in the Qur'an.

why does it say "He turned away" then instead of "You turned away"

anyway, thats the sunni interpretation and im saying the shia interpretation like maghrebgator said

just dont say 'bad side' it sounds like you're saying he was capable of sin

 

[MaghrebGator]

The Quran consists of revelations from God to the Prophet. Why would this chapter be revealed to anyone else? Otherwise it would have named the person in question as it always does in the Qur'an.

Nah, Allah actually uses in the Qur'an those kind of mentions and references without naming people but that everyone understands, and at the same time, the surah is appliable for all times and the words possess several timeless meanings

For example, the small surah Al Kawthar, Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning)

1.Verily, We have granted you Al-Kauthar (a river in Paradise);

2. Therefore turn in prayer to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him only).

3. For he who makes you angry - he will be cut off (the word used is abtar, and he will be cut off or severed from every good thing in this world and in the Hereafter).

Here a tafsir: "It is reported by Ibn Abi Hatim (رح) ، on the authority of Suddi, and by Baihaqi, in Dala'il-un- Nubuwwah, on the authority of Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Husain, that the arabs used to taunt and revile people who have lost their male offspring. They used to refer to such a person as 'abtar', meaning 'having no male offspring'. In keeping with this social evil, when the young son of the Prophet ﷺ ، namely Qasim passed away, some leaders of Quraish, especially ` As Ibn Wh'il, started taunting the Prophet ﷺ telling the people that they no longer need to bother about him, because he had no sons to carry on his name and that he would be forgotten after his death; he is 'abtar', that is, his lineage is cut off."

 

[Gengar]

why does it say "He turned away" then instead of "You turned away"

anyway, thats the sunni interpretation and im saying the shia interpretation like maghrebgator said

just dont say 'bad side' it sounds like you're saying he was capable of sin

I didn't know there was a difference in opinion between the two regarding this surah. Anyway, it was my own interpretation but it seems I agree with sunnis without knowing on this matter. Also, you were the one putting words in my mouth, I did not even think of using the term "bad." By the way, as for you/he, it seems it may be an error in translation, but it seems logical it is directed at the Prophet. Anyway, I am not here to argue about this, I'm just explaining what I personally think makes the most sense.

 

[Gengar]

Nah, Allah actually uses in the Qur'an those kind of mentions and references without naming people but that everyone understands, and at the same time, the surah is appliable for all times and the words possess several timeless meanings

For example, the small surah Al Kawthar, Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning)

1.Verily, We have granted you Al-Kauthar (a river in Paradise);

2. Therefore turn in prayer to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him only).

3. For he who makes you angry - he will be cut off (the word used is abtar, and he will be cut off or severed from every good thing in this world and in the Hereafter).

Here a tafsir: "It is reported by Ibn Abi Hatim (رح) ، on the authority of Suddi, and by Baihaqi, in Dala'il-un- Nubuwwah, on the authority of Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Husain, that the arabs used to taunt and revile people who have lost their male offspring. They used to refer to such a person as 'abtar', meaning 'having no male offspring'. In keeping with this social evil, when the young son of the Prophet ﷺ ، namely Qasim passed away, some leaders of Quraish, especially ` As Ibn Wh'il, started taunting the Prophet ﷺ telling the people that they no longer need to bother about him, because he had no sons to carry on his name and that he would be forgotten after his death; he is 'abtar', that is, his lineage is cut off."

Precisely. It is clear from the context normally, that's how I came to the conclusion myself. But dang.. shows how ignorant some of the people were back in the day before Islam was re-introduced.

 

[Deleted member 72910]

Nah, Allah actually uses in the Qur'an those kind of mentions and references without naming people but that everyone understands, and at the same time, the surah is appliable for all times and the words possess several timeless meanings

For example, the small surah Al Kawthar, Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning)

1.Verily, We have granted you Al-Kauthar (a river in Paradise);

2. Therefore turn in prayer to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him only).

3. For he who makes you angry - he will be cut off (the word used is abtar, and he will be cut off or severed from every good thing in this world and in the Hereafter).

Here a tafsir: "It is reported by Ibn Abi Hatim (رح) ، on the authority of Suddi, and by Baihaqi, in Dala'il-un- Nubuwwah, on the authority of Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Husain, that the arabs used to taunt and revile people who have lost their male offspring. They used to refer to such a person as 'abtar', meaning 'having no male offspring'. In keeping with this social evil, when the young son of the Prophet ﷺ ، namely Qasim passed away, some leaders of Quraish, especially ` As Ibn Wh'il, started taunting the Prophet ﷺ telling the people that they no longer need to bother about him, because he had no sons to carry on his name and that he would be forgotten after his death; he is 'abtar', that is, his lineage is cut off."

yes and the other meaning of "Al-Kauthar" is the daughter of the Prophet ﷺ Fatima Zahra (AS) who continued the Prophet's ﷺ lineage