Masculine men are gross abominations that would've gone extinct without rape

[disillusioned]

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

 

[BearBoy]

Stop coping faggot

 

[n0rthface]

Stop coping faggot

op typed this entire thread out with a butt plug in his ass btw

 

[Baldingman1998]

Stop coping faggot

Exactly. Masculine men are the most attractive. Women irl get wet over big muscular and well facially development men not TikTok fags. Dimorphism+ good features = most handsome.

 

[blackckatt]

You need that hypermasculine guy for staying alive, subhuman, need war pill on your ass for understand the importance of thoses man

 

[BearBoy]

Exactly. Masculine men are the most attractive. Women irl get wet over big muscular and we'll facially development men not TikTok fags. Dimorphism+ good features = most handsome.

The only hoes that go for non masc guys are low estrogenic beckies

 

[Baldingman1998]

The only hoes that go for non masc guys are low estrogenic beckies

Most slayers I see irl are either super masculine and low inhib or atleast average masculine and handsome. Never seen a skinny fag slay. You need muscle + height+ face(face being most important). Face alone especially if too feminine= incel goth copecel.

 

[disillusioned]

Most slayers I see irl are either super masculine and low inhib or atleast average masculine and handsome. Never seen a skinny fag slay. You need muscle + height+ face(face being most important). Face alone especially if too feminine= incel goth copecel.

So-called skinny fag slayers aren't noticed as much by other men because they aren't as openly bombastic. They hook up with girls in more subtle ways or use social media/tinder.

 

[5.5psl]

Jfl imagine coping this hard
It always the masculine guys that were the best since the ancient times
Being tall , strong with broad shoulders was a sign of protection nobody gave a single fuck about prettyboy fag look which people do care about today and girls still have the primal instincts for the tall , strong looking guys combined with a good face .
Shit thread tbh

 

[comingtothisJFL]

lmfao at all these copers, social media is undeniable proof which demographic attracts what

 

[Looks234]

The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

stop projecting what you like onto women

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Jfl imagine coping this hard
It always the masculine guys that were the best since the ancient times
Being tall , strong with broad shoulders was a sign of protection nobody gave a single fuck about prettyboy fag look which people do care about today and girls still have the primal instincts for the tall , strong looking guys combined with a good face .
Shit thread tbh

 

[Deleted member 24444]

stop projecting what you like onto women

 

[rand anon]

I wish I was tall white prettyboy

 

[wollet2]

Jfl imagine coping this hard
It always the masculine guys that were the best since the ancient times
Being tall , strong with broad shoulders was a sign of protection nobody gave a single fuck about prettyboy fag look which people do care about today and girls still have the primal instincts for the tall , strong looking guys combined with a good face .
Shit thread tbh

you can be tall, with broad shoulders, big skull and handsome

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

The only hoes that go for non masc guys are low estrogenic beckies

Aka lesbians

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Most slayers I see irl are either super masculine and low inhib or atleast average masculine and handsome. Never seen a skinny fag slay. You need muscle + height+ face(face being most important). Face alone especially if too feminine= incel goth copecel.

Yeah it’s full package or no pussy tbh

 

[Looks234]

Jfl imagine coping this hard
It always the masculine guys that were the best since the ancient times
Being tall , strong with broad shoulders was a sign of protection nobody gave a single fuck about prettyboy fag look which people do care about today and girls still have the primal instincts for the tall , strong looking guys combined with a good face .
Shit thread tbh

Having a good jawline itself is a sign of high testosterone. Does “prettyboys” are more dimorphic than the average bloated male.

Dude is talking out of his ass

 

[softlysoftly]

So-called skinny fag slayers aren't noticed as much by other men because they aren't as openly bombastic. They hook up with girls in more subtle ways or use social media/tinder.

no they don't you old moron I used to be a so called skinny fag slayer and my results only went up after gaining significant muscle even after equating for bodyfat%

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

oh and plenty of research to debunk the crap you are saying are you like mentally disabled mate?

Following the 'Female Gaze' trend will stop you from being a slayer and make you good Long Term Relationship material

What women generally want for a STR (short term relationship) is like not the same thing as what they want for a LTR (long term relationship). The majority of what female gaze tells you will either emasculate you by making you wear makeup and painted nails or just make you more appealing for...

looksmax.org

The Physical Attribute on Men That Helps ‘Women Orgasm More Often’

Coping bloke @loksr thinks body is cope for attraction and women don't care about male bodies both statements are like incredibly and demonstrably false, im putting that plonker and his copes to bed once and for all give your thoughts @cytoplasm @miguel22 @zharupodrugu Broad Shoulders...

looksmax.org

Science once again completely EVISCERATES @loksr and his stupid copes

@loksr is now known by many on this forum as one of the lowest iq motherfuckers around but I decided to post this just to add salt to the wounds of this wounded idiotic buffoon of a man One of his biggest claims is that the only benefit of gymcelling is leanmaxxing but this is demonstrably...

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 18582]

no they don't you old moron I used to be a so called skinny fag slayer and my results only went up after gaining significant muscle even after equating for bodyfat%

oh and plenty of research to debunk the crap you are saying are you like mentally disabled mate?

Following the 'Female Gaze' trend will stop you from being a slayer and make you good Long Term Relationship material

What women generally want for a STR (short term relationship) is like not the same thing as what they want for a LTR (long term relationship). The majority of what female gaze tells you will either emasculate you by making you wear makeup and painted nails or just make you more appealing for...

looksmax.org

The Physical Attribute on Men That Helps ‘Women Orgasm More Often’

Coping bloke @loksr thinks body is cope for attraction and women don't care about male bodies both statements are like incredibly and demonstrably false, im putting that plonker and his copes to bed once and for all give your thoughts @cytoplasm @miguel22 @zharupodrugu Broad Shoulders...

looksmax.org

Science once again completely EVISCERATES @loksr and his stupid copes

@loksr is now known by many on this forum as one of the lowest iq motherfuckers around but I decided to post this just to add salt to the wounds of this wounded idiotic buffoon of a man One of his biggest claims is that the only benefit of gymcelling is leanmaxxing but this is demonstrably...

looksmax.org

Plenty of "research" meaning 3 threads from Looksmax.com. JFL @mrriceguy

Anyway, op is correct. Women want exclusively prettyboys.

They would murder all masc men in a single heartbeat.

 

[italiangigaChad]

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

think coping mechanisms

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

It is prettybos who get the most and the best of pussy. Masculinity is cope for ugly men.
This is PSL basics.
Masculinity crew are often closet homosexuals btw.

 

[lockpop]

preach ma nigga

 

[Kamui]

Dnr OP is a fag

 

[Deleted member 30552]

Mascfags seething

I cucked a muscular big browridge masc fag before being the tiktok prettyboy I am with two women who were older than 25

 

[5.5psl]

Mascfags

What an oxymoron jfl

 

[Deleted member 30552]

What an oxymoron jfl

Cry for skinny, prettier than girls, with great bones, big dick tall prettyboys. They cucked your father

 

[Clown Show]

Another step in OP's journey to become the biggest cuck faggot on entire .org

 

[Deleted member 27472]

@5.5psl these guys are so fucking retarded bro they think all masc guys are bald orges when guys are saying masc > prettyboy they are talking about maesthetic (Maher, Meeks, Thurston, Laid) IRL slayers who have actual IRL presence. Prettyboys are definitely getting pussy but Maesthetic guys are another level

 

[Deleted member 21735]

ogre=/=masculine. you are dellusional if you think women dont want actual masculine high T guys and you are dellusional if you thik said guys dont mog. according to your cope this guy shouldnt reproduce

 

[5.5psl]

@5.5psl these guys are so fucking retarded bro they think all masc guys are bald orges when guys are saying masc > prettyboy they are talking about maesthetic (Maher, Meeks, Thurston, Laid) IRL slayers who have actual IRL presence. Prettyboys are definitely getting pussy but Maesthetic guys are another level

Also I don't understand the obsession with only and only females
Like imagine the male respect those maesthetic guys would get , life isn't all about pussy there are many more factors in it as well and the maesthetic look is the most ideal for overall all the spheres of life .

 

[Deleted member 28731]

Depends on the woman, i remember reading an article some time ago on how people select their counterpart based on how feminine or masculine they are to get a vast genepool since it is unknown if offspring will be male or female. I can't say it with conviction as i don't have statistical "proof".

 

[Xangsane]

Maesthetic guys are another level

 

[Trilogy]

Bump

 

[softlysoftly]

Plenty of "research" meaning 3 threads from Looksmax.com

you idiot I have linked peer reviewed literature WITHIN those threads you fucking moron

Anyway, op is correct. Women want exclusively prettyboys.

They would murder all masc men in a single heartbeat.

utter lies
not one shred of evidence to suggest that
and don't straw man me by posting some balding roiding ogre thats not what I am referring to when I say masc men

 

[Deleted member 18582]

you idiot I have linked peer reviewed literature WITHIN those threads you fucking moron

utter lies
not one shred of evidence to suggest that
and don't straw man me by posting some balding roiding ogre thats not what I am referring to when I say masc men

Really? Fuck you

 

[Splinter901]

old coping subhumans deserve no mercy

 

[Prettyboy]

OP you are right but your point will meet deaf ears here because majority of the users live in shitholes - communities with low amount of development so ogres still have an use

In advanced places ogres sit at the bottom doing construction work or other horseshit jobs while higher class guys almost exclusively go for the pretty aesthetic - as that’s what females really wanted all along.

 

[JBcollector]

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

Masculine males are not what you think niga

 

[softlysoftly]

Really? Fuck you

great comeback

 

[Deleted member 18582]

great comeback

Yeah more were that came from

 

[disillusioned]

OP you are right but your point will meet deaf ears here because majority of the users live in shitholes - communities with low amount of development so ogres still have an use

In advanced places ogres sit at the bottom doing construction work or other horseshit jobs while higher class guys almost exclusively go for the pretty aesthetic - as that’s what females really wanted all along.

Natural selection is such a misunderstood concept tbh. Most people think that superior genes = what women want/select for.

But it's not that simple. There are lots of species where the females don't actually have any meaningful say in which genetics are selected for. Some species of insects for instance will just outright rape the female (and I imagine this was also true for humans until recently). That form of brutish evolution rewards whichever male is simply the largest and strongest, but this doesn't imply that the females of that species necessarily like those males.

I have the theory that there are basically two forms of evolution.

The first type is female oriented where the female ultimately gets to decide which genetics are favored. This form of evolution rewards softer, prettier and more emotionally intelligent men since those are the qualities that women want (obviously they'll still expect them to be tall, have big dick, etc but they want them to be a pretty boy otherwise). They don't want some brutish monster that just beats the shit out of them whenever the male is feeling angry that day.

The second type of evolution is male oriented where the male has the final say in who breeds. This form of evolution completely ignores what the woman wants and instead favors pure brute strength and ruthlessness. It does not matter if a woman experiences actual attraction towards the male or not. Just as long as the male is strong enough to sideline his rival male, he can make sure that his genetics will pass on. Because of the barbaric nature of this sort of evolution, it eventually results in a species that's basically fascist and violent because there's no evolutionary pressure selecting in favor of more tolerant or empathetic traits.

Guess which type humanity is...

It's not random chance that after women became liberated, that they're basically abandoning the old ways. They've literally done a 180 on human evolution. Or at least until it all collapses and patriarchy comes back.

 

[Deleted member 28691]

Natural selection is such a misunderstood concept tbh. Most people think that superior genes = what women want/select for.

But it's not that simple. There are lots of species where the females don't actually have any meaningful say in which genetics are selected for. Some species of insects for instance will just outright rape the female (and I imagine this was also true for humans until recently). That form of brutish evolution rewards whichever male is simply the largest and strongest, but this doesn't imply that the females of that species necessarily like those males.

I have the theory that there are basically two forms of evolution.

The first type is female oriented where the female ultimately gets to decide which genetics are favored. This form of evolution rewards softer, prettier and more emotionally intelligent men since those are the qualities that women want (obviously they'll still expect them to be tall, have big dick, etc but they want them to be a pretty boy otherwise). They don't want some brutish monster that just beats the shit out of them whenever the male is feeling angry that day.

The second type of evolution is male oriented where the male has the final say in who breeds. This form of evolution completely ignores what the woman wants and instead favors pure brute strength and ruthlessness. It does not matter if a woman experiences actual attraction towards the male or not. Just as long as the male is strong enough to sideline his rival male, he can make sure that his genetics will pass on. Because of the barbaric nature of this sort of evolution, it eventually results in a species that's basically fascist and violent because there's no evolutionary pressure selecting in favor of more tolerant or empathetic traits.

Guess which type humanity is...

It's not random chance that after women became liberated, that they're basically abandoning the old ways. They've literally done a 180 on human evolution. Or at least until it all collapses and patriarchy comes back.

Masc copers will say muh genes, muh selection, muh need to be wide framed, tall etc.

Why do peacocks select based on visual beauty then?

They're same size, just the prettier ones are more attractive.

 

[disillusioned]

Masc copers will say muh genes, muh selection, muh need to be wide framed, tall etc.

Why do peacocks select based on visual beauty then?

They're same size, just the prettier ones are more attractive.

Exactly my point.

Like I explained in my earlier comment, there are basically 2 types of evolution. When women get to choose, they don't select in favor of the barbarian type. That only happens when the evolution is male-centric aka violent and fascist.

 

[softlysoftly]

Exactly my point.

Like I explained in my earlier comment, there are basically 2 types of evolution. When women get to choose, they don't select in favor of the barbarian type. That only happens when the evolution is male-centric aka violent and fascist.

no you retard they still select for tall and wide framed strong looking men but in addition to that they look for aesthetically pleasing male faces with good facial averageness too
its not so black and white like you make it seem they didn't do a muh 180 on evolution

 

[disillusioned]

no you retard they still select for tall and wide framed strong looking men but in addition to that they look for aesthetically pleasing male faces with good facial averageness too
its not so black and white like you make it seem they didn't do a muh 180 on evolution

They want tall men yes but frame isn't as important as you make it out to be insofar as you don't have literal spagetti arms. A foid will favor a 6.2ft etctomorph with chadface over a 5/10 brawny mesmo every day of the week.

Face + height > Everything

 

[bloomercel]

Problem with this is that now that women choose who they mate with, they are having children with big dumb men. The opposite of your theory. Prettyboys are childless.

 

[softlysoftly]

They want tall men yes but frame isn't as important as you make it out to be insofar as you don't have literal spagetti arms. A foid will favor a 6.2ft etctomorph with chadface over a 5/10 brawny mesmo every day of the week.

Face + height > Everything

so everything matters but to varying extents
no shit sherlock

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Id have to disagree.

Masculinity does not stop at asthetics. Masculinity also means masculinized brain patterns, and that also means mental and moral precision which correlates to a lack of proficiency in todays feminine and socially addicted society.

Those orgres you speak of are what i call artifical. And yes they are generally mogging in both sex frequency and social proficiency than a true masculine man. But their behavior does not imply masculinity imo. Not even considering how rare men are. First, to get an idea of asthetic, id say real bio men have similar faces to vicroria secret models (since the models are known for sharing male innersex traits) That exact long face and sloped, hollow cheeky, long jaw look. The image of a Pretty boy is not masculine men but share more traits to ftm.

This idea that masculine men somehow crusaded pretty boys is pretty false imo. If this were the case we’d actually have masculine men around and not socially feminine, women are wonderful syndrome prone injectors. Also why assume that todays applications of female nature hypergamy did not happen back then. Nothing new under the sun!

Just like how they pick the artifical today, going based on the packaging and not the content, the cycle continues.

What i think happens is that masculinity was phased or is eventually getting breeded out, and then a pool of nonmasculine men - both pretty boy and orge, emerge to take the spot. Ofc the muscular ogre will succeed over the pretty boy, but its two sides of the same coin imo. Real masc men in todays society seem like nonparticipants. Not alpha not beta but mgtow, not pretty boy or ogre just rare and nonrepresented. Additionally aside from looks, The masculine brain pattern is labaled toxic, conspiracy theory, incel etc, and do things just snot leveraged as well as if you were to do it in a feminine/social nature.

 

[Sondern]

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

Are you grimba?
@disillusioned