Maxilla: 4 Positions

[Darkstrand]

I see Maxilla being talked out a lot, since it's the bone of facial beauty, but there's an awful lot of people that seem to have no idea what makes or breaks the maxilla...
1) Lateral

Possibly the only one you can't go around, it makes for bizygomatic width, thus to an extent for bigonial width, for IPD and partially for PFL, also for mouth width
2)Counterclockwise Rotation

This is what mewing does (!!!) mostly and is falsely called forward growth, it basically improves the mandible more than the face, so it's most important for the jawline, a certain amount of CCW is needed for good lips
3) Upward

Good upward growth basically always comes with other kinds of good growth. It leads to shorter midface, nose heavy in nosebridge... So short nose. Also carries the eye area, you don't need forward growth or ccw, alongside with decent Lateral growth it makes up for undereye support, canthal tilt, above eye area (!), meaning good upward growth has near to straight orbitals above the eye which is important also for eyebrow tilt and of course hunter eyes
4) Forward

Very Important for cheekbones and nose, also for lips and orbitals and brow ridge... And for headshape , the more maxillary projection the more warrior skull basically (to complex to go into further detail)

From now on you can analyse everyone's face and reasons for failos/halos (Note: of course in the end some features only go with some phenos)

I will do another thread about facepulling and MSE and basically fixing maxilla, but still waiting for @nelson 's thread first, to see what he covers...

 

[Chadelite]

How do I know which one I have?

and which one mogs?

 

[Deleted member 2933]

i have a mix of those

 

[Golden Glass]

How do I know which one I have?

and which one mogs?

He’s talking about 4 ASPECTS of a maxilla. Each maxilla has all 4 of these, but think of it like each aspect having a range, and ideally you’d want to be in the top range of each.

 

[TsarTsar444]

I lack the third tbh, it's over

 

[Darkstrand]

He’s talking about 4 ASPECTS of a maxilla. Each maxilla has all 4 of these, but think of it like each aspect having a range, and ideally you’d want to be in the top range of each.

Exactly

 

[Chadelite]

He’s talking about 4 ASPECTS of a maxilla. Each maxilla has all 4 of these, but think of it like each aspect having a range, and ideally you’d want to be in the top range of each.

Ok

how Do I improve under eye area?

how do I know if I have a good under Eye area?

 

[TsarTsar444]

Ok

how Do I improve under eye area?

how do I know if I have a good under Eye area?

I don't, under eye is my worst feature, it's over for us

 

[Chadelite]

I don't, under eye is my worst feature, it's over for

Just squinmax

 

[Deleted member 3962]

My bizygomatic is 32mm above the 99%percentile but my pfl isnt slayer

 

[Darkstrand]

Ok

how Do I improve under eye area?

how do I know if I have a good under Eye area?

Upward and forward... Thread coming soon

 

[TsarTsar444]

Just squinmax

I am basically always squinching because of this shit, it's not severe tho, but this is the only thing that i definitely plan on getting corrected in the future

 

[Pendejo]

how do I know if I have a good under Eye area?

https://looksmax.org/threads/negative-orbital-vector-and-infraorbital-rim-implants-explained.81390/

 

[Darkstrand]

My bizygomatic is 32mm above the 99%percentile but my pfl isnt slayer

32 mm??!!

 

[Chadelite]

Upward and forward... Thread coming soon

Tag me

ly Bro for this

hope it helps me

 

[Deleted member 3962]

32 mm??!!

ye my bizygo is 16cm

 

[Chadelite]

https://looksmax.org/threads/negative-orbital-vector-and-infraorbital-rim-implants-explained.81390/

I have positive orbital vector

but I have so much pct that my lower eyelid isn’t perfectly tight

it just can’t be

if it is fully tight

then I can’t see

me eyelashes block my eyes a bit

so what does this mean

 

[Darkstrand]

Tag me

ly Bro for this

hope it helps me

Will most likely, but gonna be difficult

 

[Chadelite]

ye my bizygo is 16cm

Srs?
i think mine mogs

 

[Almu]

Possibly the only one you can't go around, it makes for bizygomatic width, thus to an extent for bigonial width, for IPD and partially for PFL, also for mouth width

What do you mean "You cant go around"

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Srs?
i think mine mogs

doubt it

 

[Darkstrand]

ye my bizygo is 16cm

Holy wow, and your pfl?

 

[Chadelite]

Will most likely, but gonna be difficult

I’m 17 late bloomer and I’m gonna take hgh to grow height and face bones more

also will get a facepuller

hope I get almost perfect tier

doubt it

doubt

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Holy wow, and your pfl?

one eye is slightly above average and the other eye is slightly below average

 

[Darkstrand]

What do you mean "You cant go around"

Bad wording, there's gl people lacking any of the others, but without a certain extent of lateral you are screwed

 

[Chadelite]

Bad wording, there's gl people lacking any of the others, but without a certain extent of lateral you are screwed

I will artificially make mine perfect

I think mine is is still very good

but I’m here to max

 

[needsolution]

What do you mean "You cant go around"

Narrow = death

 

[TsarTsar444]

Holy wow, and your pfl?

He is 6'8-9, thats why it's 16cm

 

[Almu]

Bad wording, there's gl people lacking any of the others, but without a certain extent of lateral you are screwed

My bigonial is as wide as my bizygomatic width. Does that mean I have good lateral or bad lateral because my Bigonial is good or my bizygos is bad ?

 

[needsolution]

Bad wording, there's gl people lacking any of the others, but without a certain extent of lateral you are screwed

There is bunch of gl people whose lateral maxilla is below average (Brad Pitt, Ian Somerhalder etc) but yeah if this will be good then u won the life most likely

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

Shit thread

 

[Almu]

There is bunch of gl people whose lateral maxilla is below average (Brad Pitt, Ian Somerhalder etc) but yeah if this will be good then u won the life most likely

Why is brad pitt lateral bad ?

 

[Deleted member 2933]

This greysel thread mogged many oldcels threads

 

[AutisticBeaner]

dont call it the bone of facial beauty, call it the bone of facial development

 

[needsolution]

Why is brad pitt lateral bad ?

he lacks facial width
yeah his fwhr is fine but u can check his old movies when he was young and he was getting skullmogged by females

 

[Almu]

he lacks facial width
yeah his fwhr is fine but u can check his old movies when he was young and he was getting skullmogged by females

Doesnt that just mean he has an small head

 

[Darkstrand]

My bigonial is as wide as my bizygomatic width. Does that mean I have good lateral or bad lateral because my Bigonial is good or my bizygos is bad ?

Could mean everything, cause wide bigonial can be caused by nutrition or testosterone as well

 

[Almu]

Could mean everything, cause wide bigonial can be caused by nutrition or testosterone as well

How can I identify it then ?

 

[Darkstrand]

How can I identify it then ?

Good question, what I did was measure Neurocranium size, bizygo width and bigonial width, than look up what percentile you are, especially Neuro and Zygo should be about the same percentile

 

[Almu]

Good question, what I did was measure Neurocranium size, bizygo width and bigonial width, than look up what percentile you are, especially Neuro and Zygo should be about the same percentile

How do I measure nerocranium size

 

[Darkstrand]

How do I measure nerocranium size

That fucking word tho... It's just had size, take a measure band and go around your head at the widest point (do 3-4 times, might mess up)

 

[Almu]

That fucking word tho... It's just had size, take a measure band and go around your head at the widest point (do 3-4 times, might mess up)

Do you have a chart with the percentages

 

[Darkstrand]

Do you have a chart with the percentages

Just google for example 'bizygomatic width chart'

 

[Unknownjpg]

I see Maxilla being talked out a lot, since it's the bone of facial beauty, but there's an awful lot of people that seem to have no idea what makes or breaks the maxilla...
1) Lateral
View attachment 228293
Possibly the only one you can't go around, it makes for bizygomatic width, thus to an extent for bigonial width, for IPD and partially for PFL, also for mouth width
2)Counterclockwise Rotation
View attachment 228298
This is what mewing does (!!!) mostly and is falsely called forward growth, it basically improves the mandible more than the face, so it's most important for the jawline, a certain amount of CCW is needed for good lips
3) Upward
View attachment 228321
Good upward growth basically always comes with other kinds of good growth. It leads to shorter midface, nose heavy in nosebridge... So short nose. Also carries the eye area, you don't need forward growth or ccw, alongside with decent Lateral growth it makes up for undereye support, canthal tilt, above eye area (!), meaning good upward growth has near to straight orbitals above the eye which is important also for eyebrow tilt and of course hunter eyes
4) Forward
View attachment 228339
Very Important for cheekbones and nose, also for lips and orbitals and brow ridge... And for headshape , the more maxillary projection the more warrior skull basically (to complex to go into further detail)

From now on you can analyse everyone's face and reasons for failos/halos (Note: of course in the end some features only go with some phenos)

I will do another thread about facepulling and MSE and basically fixing maxilla, but still waiting for @nelson 's thread first, to see what he covers...

Great post op, is there anyway you can have a thread that explains if you can fix them and how so, and how to identify if have lets say good upward growth or forward etc.

 

[Darkstrand]

Great post op, is there anyway you can have a thread that explains if you can fix them and how so, and how to identify if have lets say good upward growth or forward etc.

Will do that very soon

 

[Luke LLL]

This thread is bro science sorry op

 

[reptiles]

I see Maxilla being talked out a lot, since it's the bone of facial beauty, but there's an awful lot of people that seem to have no idea what makes or breaks the maxilla...
1) Lateral
View attachment 228293
Possibly the only one you can't go around, it makes for bizygomatic width, thus to an extent for bigonial width, for IPD and partially for PFL, also for mouth width
2)Counterclockwise Rotation
View attachment 228298
This is what mewing does (!!!) mostly and is falsely called forward growth, it basically improves the mandible more than the face, so it's most important for the jawline, a certain amount of CCW is needed for good lips
3) Upward
View attachment 228321
Good upward growth basically always comes with other kinds of good growth. It leads to shorter midface, nose heavy in nosebridge... So short nose. Also carries the eye area, you don't need forward growth or ccw, alongside with decent Lateral growth it makes up for undereye support, canthal tilt, above eye area (!), meaning good upward growth has near to straight orbitals above the eye which is important also for eyebrow tilt and of course hunter eyes
4) Forward
View attachment 228339
Very Important for cheekbones and nose, also for lips and orbitals and brow ridge... And for headshape , the more maxillary projection the more warrior skull basically (to complex to go into further detail)

From now on you can analyse everyone's face and reasons for failos/halos (Note: of course in the end some features only go with some phenos)

I will do another thread about facepulling and MSE and basically fixing maxilla, but still waiting for @nelson 's thread first, to see what he covers...

Super fucking interesting thread could you make 1 for the jawline ?