Modified Orbital Box Osteotomy & U-Shaped Osteotomies

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Order of Operations to Aesthetics
Orbital form & position is essential for an aesthetic face and as it turns out may even dictate primary landmarks in the Aesthetic Order of Operations. That is, the surgical correction of other facial features cannot be planned around an existing orbital position/Inter-pupillary Distance (IPD) that is far from optimal. Ideal nasal, cheekbone, lip and jaw aesthetics are probably secondary to orbital position. Similar to the basic mathematic order of operations if you attempt to solve the problem out of order it will never be right.

Take for instance the case where faces are made narrower through zygomatic reductions and gonial angle amputations to “correct” the ES ration of narrow IPD individuals. Even if it results in some perceived improvement the approach can almost never result in ideal facial form because it’s usually using unideal anatomy as the point of reference. It’s really no different than performing a mandibular setback to achieve a “correct” bite relationship with a retruded maxilla. Seldom is a chin or jaw in actual need of a setback. Likewise a zygomatic bones rarely require reduction. The rest of the face needs to either come forward or be moved laterally. Although the more expensive and time consuming undertaking, this is about ideal aesthetics

While the blackpilled/lookism aesthetics community is well aware of the principle of Forward Growth there is a lot of ignorance about Lateral Growth. Lateral Growth may be dismissed because there is a false assumption that nothing can be done about aside from surface-level augmentation like zygomatic implants and ZSO which will inevitably make ratios appear worse in the narrow face+IPD individual (Similar to placing chin implants on extremely biretruded jaws.)

Augmentation vs. Expansion
Unlike augmentation which is stuck-on, expansion comes from a deeper place and moves the related structures with it producing natural yet powerful results.

It’s well known that the biretruded jaws can be expanded or moved forward as an “augmentation from behind” that also moves the related structures (the mouth and its contents) through double jaw surgery (Bimax.) What isn’t well known is that the midface can also be expanded from within moving the related structures (the orbit and its contents) through a few means including various orbital osteotomies.

Orbital Osteotomies
The most well known osteotomy for translocation (movement) of the orbit is the Orbital Box Osteotomy. This is because virtually all orbital osteotomies are performed for severe facial deformities which require maximal capture of the eyeballs and related soft tissue (with a deep 360° osteotomy of the effective orbit). However aesthetic cases do not require large movements of the orbital rims or orbital contents so don’t necessarily require a deep 360° osteotomy of the entire orbit.

This should come as good news since the most of the major complications from a standard orbital box osteotomy are neurosurgical. Remember most reconstructive Craniofacial surgery is performed on children who do not have a pneumatized frontal sinus, so access to the orbital roof requires a frontal craniotomy which exposes the brain.

In adult males with a pneumatized frontal sinus osteotomization of the orbital roof may be possible of sufficient depth without ever entering the cranial vault. Surgery within the frontal sinus is extremely low risk as compared to transcranial access to the orbital roof. There are two published cases of box osteotomies through the frontal sinus in adult males that I know of.

Even without the possibility of trans-sinus access, a 360° osteotomy isn’t necessary for orbital widening less than 10mm. 180° orbital osteotomies have and can also be performed:

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A Maxillary 180° Orbital U-Shaped Osteotomy originally described by Tessier for translocation of the orbit & its contents by smaller distances.


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A rare reference to this forgotten osteotomy

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Comparative diagram of the modifications for orbital shift osteotomies by yours truly.

 
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Orbital Expansion Osteotomies thread coming soon for thecel :)
fuark I read every word and still didn't realize it's about decreasing IPD rather than increasing it
 
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any surgeries for reducing 95 percentile skull size in all 3 dimensions?
 
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Orbital Expansion Osteotomies thread coming soon for thecel :)
Can we assume that you are innovating a new low cost, low risk orbital osteotomy that will be available to all .org users with 10% discount when you use code GANDY69:)
 
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What about monobloc osteotomy for receeding/sloped foreheads ? I assume it's not really possible in adults due to an increase of skull volume, that may leaves the brain unstable, surrounded by too much liquor or too little pressure ?
 
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And what about facial bipartition to increase lateral growth ?
 
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Order of Operations to Aesthetics
Orbital form & position is essential for an aesthetic face and as it turns out may even dictate primary landmarks in the Aesthetic Order of Operations. That is, the surgical correction of other facial features cannot be planned around an existing orbital position/Inter-pupillary Distance (IPD) that is far from optimal. Ideal nasal, cheekbone, lip and jaw aesthetics are probably secondary to orbital position. Similar to the basic mathematic order of operations if you attempt to solve the problem out of order it will never be right.

Take for instance the case where faces are made narrower through zygomatic reductions and gonial angle amputations to “correct” the ES ration of narrow IPD individuals. Even if it results in some perceived improvement the approach can almost never result in ideal facial form because it’s usually using unideal anatomy as the point of reference. It’s really no different than performing a mandibular setback to achieve a “correct” bite relationship with a retruded maxilla. Seldom is a chin or jaw in actual need of a setback. Likewise a zygomatic bones rarely require reduction. The rest of the face needs to either come forward or be moved laterally. Although the more expensive and time consuming undertaking, this is about ideal aesthetics

While the blackpilled/lookism aesthetics community is well aware of the principle of Forward Growth there is a lot of ignorance about Lateral Growth. Lateral Growth may be dismissed because there is a false assumption that nothing can be done about aside from surface-level augmentation like zygomatic implants and ZSO which will inevitably make ratios appear worse in the narrow face+IPD individual (Similar to placing chin implants on extremely biretruded jaws.)

Augmentation vs. Expansion
Unlike augmentation which is stuck-on, expansion comes from a deeper place and moves the related structures with it producing natural yet powerful results.

It’s well known that the biretruded jaws can be expanded or moved forward as an “augmentation from behind” that also moves the related structures (the mouth and its contents) through double jaw surgery (Bimax.) What isn’t well known is that the midface can also be expanded from within moving the related structures (the orbit and its contents) through a few means including various orbital osteotomies.

Orbital Osteotomies
The most well known osteotomy for translocation (movement) of the orbit is the Orbital Box Osteotomy. This is because virtually all orbital osteotomies are performed for severe facial deformities which require maximal capture of the eyeballs and related soft tissue (with a deep 360° osteotomy of the effective orbit). However aesthetic cases do not require large movements of the orbital rims or orbital contents so don’t necessarily require a deep 360° osteotomy of the entire orbit.

This should come as good news since the most of the major complications from a standard orbital box osteotomy are neurosurgical. Remember most reconstructive Craniofacial surgery is performed on children who do not have a pneumatized frontal sinus, so access to the orbital roof requires a frontal craniotomy which exposes the brain.

In adult males with a pneumatized frontal sinus osteotomization of the orbital roof may be possible of sufficient depth without ever entering the cranial vault. Surgery within the frontal sinus is extremely low risk as compared to transcranial access to the orbital roof. There are two published cases of box osteotomies through the frontal sinus in adult males that I know of.

Even without the possibility of trans-sinus access, a 360° osteotomy isn’t necessary for orbital widening less than 10mm. 180° orbital osteotomies have and can also be performed:

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A Maxillary 180° Orbital U-Shaped Osteotomy originally described by Tessier for translocation of the orbit & its contents by smaller distances.


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A rare reference to this forgotten osteotomy

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Comparative diagram of the modifications for orbital shift osteotomies by yours truly.

Chestbrah needs to read this
 
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Better to get box and MSE (at different times)
What are your thoughts on Transpalatal and Transmandibular Distraction Osteogenesis if i have perfect occlusion and 8 teeth smile but only want cosmetic benefits and a 12 teeth smile
 
What are your thoughts on Transpalatal and Transmandibular Distraction Osteogenesis if i have perfect occlusion and 8 teeth smile but only want cosmetic benefits and a 12 teeth smile
Go for it
 
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What about monobloc osteotomy for receeding/sloped foreheads ? I assume it's not really possible in adults due to an increase of skull volume, that may leaves the brain unstable, surrounded by too much liquor or too little pressure ?
Implants
 
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And what about facial bipartition to increase lateral growth ?
Subcranial Bipartition is possible (LeFort III Bipartition) Then a very interesting modification of frontal bone implant which actually widens the forehead too. Here’s one I designed:
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It actually extends into the temporal fossa and widens the temporal lines.
It requires re-attachment of the temporalis muscle through a full coronal incision:
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I think giant implant offers this
 
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i see so many people talk about orbital box osteotomy but how does soft tissue come into play? surely your eyelids don't move along with your bones.
 
i see so many people talk about orbital box osteotomy but how does soft tissue come into play? surely your eyelids don't move along with your bones.
For widening OBO it stretches the soft tissue to look better and that is documented by every author who has done obo for widening.

On the other hand narrowing obo can leave epicanthal folds and scrunched up skin over the nose in large cases. Small aesthetic cases possible but probably not. The skin over the nose can be handled in small cases (any non syndrome case) with a K-Stitch technique which is a technique from Henry Kawamoto. Epicanthal folds might need epicanthoplasty.

So it’s all thought out and able to be managed :yes:
 
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Subcranial Bipartition is possible (LeFort III Bipartition) Then a very interesting modification of frontal bone implant which actually widens the forehead too. Here’s one I designed:
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It actually extends into the temporal fossa and widens the temporal lines.
It requires re-attachment of the temporalis muscle through a full coronal incision:
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The surgeon who offered me bimax has said that he can also do fat grafts undereye at the same time. If I go for this and still feel that I need more undereye support (and supraorbital projection):

1. How long would I have to wait after fat grafting undereye to get a similar implant to the one you've designed installed- ie. how long does it take for fat grafts to "stick"?

2. If I didn't get undereye fat grafts and just got bimax, how long should I wait after this procedure to get supra/infra implants?
 
Subcranial Bipartition is possible (LeFort III Bipartition) Then a very interesting modification of frontal bone implant which actually widens the forehead too. Here’s one I designed:
View attachment 1782101
It actually extends into the temporal fossa and widens the temporal lines.
It requires re-attachment of the temporalis muscle through a full coronal incision:
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You seem very knowledgeable, may I ask for some recommendations for sources to learn more about surgery? Such as where the picture u posted is from?
 
You seem very knowledgeable, may I ask for some recommendations for sources to learn more about surgery? Such as where the picture u posted is from?
These are from craniofacial journals and I made the last picture myself.
 
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Order of Operations to Aesthetics
Orbital form & position is essential for an aesthetic face and as it turns out may even dictate primary landmarks in the Aesthetic Order of Operations. That is, the surgical correction of other facial features cannot be planned around an existing orbital position/Inter-pupillary Distance (IPD) that is far from optimal. Ideal nasal, cheekbone, lip and jaw aesthetics are probably secondary to orbital position. Similar to the basic mathematic order of operations if you attempt to solve the problem out of order it will never be right.

Take for instance the case where faces are made narrower through zygomatic reductions and gonial angle amputations to “correct” the ES ration of narrow IPD individuals. Even if it results in some perceived improvement the approach can almost never result in ideal facial form because it’s usually using unideal anatomy as the point of reference. It’s really no different than performing a mandibular setback to achieve a “correct” bite relationship with a retruded maxilla. Seldom is a chin or jaw in actual need of a setback. Likewise a zygomatic bones rarely require reduction. The rest of the face needs to either come forward or be moved laterally. Although the more expensive and time consuming undertaking, this is about ideal aesthetics

While the blackpilled/lookism aesthetics community is well aware of the principle of Forward Growth there is a lot of ignorance about Lateral Growth. Lateral Growth may be dismissed because there is a false assumption that nothing can be done about aside from surface-level augmentation like zygomatic implants and ZSO which will inevitably make ratios appear worse in the narrow face+IPD individual (Similar to placing chin implants on extremely biretruded jaws.)

Augmentation vs. Expansion
Unlike augmentation which is stuck-on, expansion comes from a deeper place and moves the related structures with it producing natural yet powerful results.

It’s well known that the biretruded jaws can be expanded or moved forward as an “augmentation from behind” that also moves the related structures (the mouth and its contents) through double jaw surgery (Bimax.) What isn’t well known is that the midface can also be expanded from within moving the related structures (the orbit and its contents) through a few means including various orbital osteotomies.

Orbital Osteotomies
The most well known osteotomy for translocation (movement) of the orbit is the Orbital Box Osteotomy. This is because virtually all orbital osteotomies are performed for severe facial deformities which require maximal capture of the eyeballs and related soft tissue (with a deep 360° osteotomy of the effective orbit). However aesthetic cases do not require large movements of the orbital rims or orbital contents so don’t necessarily require a deep 360° osteotomy of the entire orbit.

This should come as good news since the most of the major complications from a standard orbital box osteotomy are neurosurgical. Remember most reconstructive Craniofacial surgery is performed on children who do not have a pneumatized frontal sinus, so access to the orbital roof requires a frontal craniotomy which exposes the brain.

In adult males with a pneumatized frontal sinus osteotomization of the orbital roof may be possible of sufficient depth without ever entering the cranial vault. Surgery within the frontal sinus is extremely low risk as compared to transcranial access to the orbital roof. There are two published cases of box osteotomies through the frontal sinus in adult males that I know of.

Even without the possibility of trans-sinus access, a 360° osteotomy isn’t necessary for orbital widening less than 10mm. 180° orbital osteotomies have and can also be performed:

View attachment 1401706
A Maxillary 180° Orbital U-Shaped Osteotomy originally described by Tessier for translocation of the orbit & its contents by smaller distances.


View attachment 1401747

A rare reference to this forgotten osteotomy

View attachment 1401749
Comparative diagram of the modifications for orbital shift osteotomies by yours truly.


Does bimax with ccw alter the position of eyes/IPD?

Also does anyone have surgeon recs for creating deeper looking eye sockets using hydroxyapatite granules?
 
Does bimax with ccw alter the position of eyes/IPD?

Also does anyone have surgeon recs for creating deeper looking eye sockets using hydroxyapatite granules?
No it does not

HA isn’t a good choice
 
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2 years later, we performed this. Now about to do another orbital box Osteotomy combined with implants:


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2 years later, we performed this. Now about to do another orbital box Osteotomy combined with implants:


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You have revolutionized cosmetic surgery singlehandedly. Thank you from the whole looksmaxxing community for making many peoples lives better. It's an honor to have you here.
 
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