MOUTHBREATHER SUICIDE.

You're literally a fucking Romanian mate , you're a fucking filthy hairy shitskin midget cocksucker worthless fucker
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keep seething, ugly currycel 😹
 
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Because she is more feminine. Op is obsessed with male dimorphic traits being the female ideal
its the opposite, a smaller mfr is a male dimorphic trait, but maybe because she has a lot of feminine features it balances out and look harmonious in her. Its hard to judge forward growth without side profiles
 
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its the opposite, a smaller mfr is a male dimorphic trait, but maybe because she has a lot of feminine features it balances out and look harmonious in her. Its hard to judge forward grown without side profiles
See nigga @Meshuggahballsoup. Everyone knows low mfr ooks like shit on girls.
 
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not the best photoshop but you can see if you increase the mfr she looks more childish
 
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That's not exactly it. A high ipd and pfl is a male dimorphic trait which on narrow skulls creates a long face (ratio). Op takes this further and wants his ideal partner to have a huge jaw and extremely wide zygos with large orbits to make the ratio more compact. The ideal is a woman with smaller orbits, small cheekbones and a narrow skull with features that are not pronounced.
You don't know what midface ratio is clearly. It's ipd divided by maxillary length. Nothing to do with jaw or zygos.
 
XD nice logic. I didn't even search for that image. I saw @ascension use it once and I downloaded it. On the other hand you went out of your way to cherry pick 100 studies to prove your point, download select images from them, copy paste and save select texts from them onto your drive only to win arguments on an incel website. Sad as fuck bro

All you need in any argument with clouder is the same set of 4-5 memes. Works every time :bigbrain:
 
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The only larping hungryarian on the forum was @RecessedSubhumanX idk why @Gargantuan hasn't banned you yet. You're making it so obvious.
I'm Not Hungarian , I Just Use Those Memes To Trigger Your Filthy Shitskin Romanian Ass
 
Dude you're so blind. He literally has an overbite meaning that his maxilla isn't recessed at all. "Recessed nasion" jfl. That's caused by a big brow bone along with a depressed, european nasal root. His maxilla is normal but it's not protrusive exactly under the eyes which gives worse infraorbital support.
Having an overbite doesn't mean your maxilla isn't recessed retard. Wtf nothing to do with it. His nasion is recessed, you can clearly see it, so stop calling it something else. His maxilla is overall recessed, cw rotated and downgrown. His brow bone is not exactly big his forehead is pretty much flat. His maxilla is wy behind his frankfut perpendicular.

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"He would look even more recessed without prognatism" No comment, this is just raw autism
Why?
This thread is gigacope jfl.
 
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Orbit size depends on zygos, more bizygo width = larger orbits. The more wide your zygos are you'll also have wide accommodating bygonial. You clearly don't know ANYTHING
This has nothing to do with midace ratio. Look at barret. Bizygomatic or bigonial width has nothing to do with midface ratio.

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3 pages of pure autism. Its so fucking over for ANYONE who unironically arguing about that
 
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This is a recessed maxilla
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You don't know what you're talking about so you just throw buzzwords as if they mean anything
You are parroting somone elses bullshit without fact checking anything.
 
I didn't say it has anything to do with bigonial. Orbits and esr have to do with the midface ratio, which are affected by bizygo width
You can have high or low esr with the same ipd are you dumb.
 
Same species.

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Too many retards recently like @cloUder and @Meshuggahballsoup who are either half homosexuals or mouthbreathers in denial saying that recessed and downgrown mtf trannies like this asian "female" mog proprely developed women like margot robbie.

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And his loyal abused dog @Meshuggahballsoup:

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Jfl if you take these homosexuals and their "opinions" seriously.

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Only thing that matters is whose tits are bigger homo
 
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The gook is better the ones you posted have man jaws and fwhr almost every nigga on the planet you fuckin homosexual I’ll admit it’s ideal for breeding to produce chads but not attractive
 
Some autistic lines and circles? Of course if your mandible is extremely recessed you can still have a normal bite even with a non forward grown maxilla
Means her maxilla is recessed. So chink cope thread debunked. Just as this downgrown la creatura.

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Now tell me if you agree with the og post i'm asking for the third time.
 
I was thinking you were just disingenuous but now I'm thinking that you are actually blind whilst also being severely autistic.
Do you not see the difference between these two skulls?

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Are you actually measuring forward growth relative to the forehead? If so then that is enough proof that you have no idea what forward growth actually is as well as not having credibility with facial ratios due to blindness.
Why are you coparing those two, one is clearly more recessed. Whats ur point?

Relative to forehead? I never did that.

Also answer already do you agree or no.
 
You don't call weak undereyes a recessed maxilla
Of course you can, it's mostly determined by upper maxillary protrusion. But bad undereye is not the only sign.
 
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This whole time you didn't give your definition of "maxillary recession". Because in reality, no surgeon would consider that recessed.
You know what's also normal today? Being fat or losing hair or dying of heart disease. That doesn't mean it's healthy or good.
His maxilla is normal but it's not protrusive exactly under the eyes which gives worse infraorbital support.
So you agree that it's recessed. Good.
 
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Agree with what? Which one looks better? Hard to pinpoint because I'd say this
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looks better but not really attractive. This kind of just looks like a very well developed, properly formed prepubescent boy.
Boy? Not a chance. Idk what ideas you have about sexual dimorphism but females and male skulls are not supposed to be that different. Yesterday you said something about god and didn't let me explain it, but think about why the skull looks the way it looks.

Every animals bone structure develops to make it best suited for its role in the environment. Now obvioulsy the environmental role of human males and females is different, they have different survival tactics. But not as different as if they were two distinct species.

Look at this for example - male and female bonobo skull.

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They are very similar. Same core features, most angles and ratios.

What makes them different is size and soft features.

You can tell that the girls i posted has feminine soft features - thin arched, high set eyebrows, small sloped nose with small holes, high cheek fat, thicker, darker lips. As well as some hard features, like short lower third and inward gonions (which are probably the only major differences between the male and female human skull). Also browridge.

However the other Asian does look more feminine, with her jaw and chin being round. More feminine cheekbones among other traits that don't look as manly as the former.
Her jaw is "round" because it's horribly downgrown. There is no evolutionary reason for female jaws to be more downgrown than male since it's proven to impair breathing. Cheekbones likewise. Women naturally have slightly smaller cheekbones than men but the difference isn't big and neither of these girs has "manly cheekbones".

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Yeah, sure. The thing is that I have never seen one human being in my daily life who'd have undereyes that you consider ideal. Such forward grown malars and infraorbital parts of the maxilla were only reserved to humans that have thrived in perfect conditions for multiple generations, this was rare at all times of human existence.
This is the time we live in. Todays world is completely different than what we're adjusted for. If i'm being honest humans were doomed with the invention of fire.
Even Robbie doesn't have perfect undereyes.
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And he also had to wear braces to fix crooked teeth
Of course robbie isn't ideal, she is also somewhat downgrown, but i can't find a better female example today unfortunately.

Best example of good undereye is probably sean opry but he has other big failos.

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Dude, just no. Human skulls are VERY different. Even on malformed skulls you can see the very clear difference. Humans are an extremely dimorphic species.

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From the front the differences are extremely apparent. The general skull width, orbit size, zygo projection, chin and the entire mandible.
Those are easily affected by maldevelopment, like in these cases. There is just as much cheekbone variance between males. Some have giant cheekbones amd many are boneless. Many women have bigger cheekbones than the average man. It is dimorphic but you won't guess the sex based on cheekbones alone. The inward gonion is a much better sign.
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The sides too. More zygo, growth around the ramus and gonions. Brow growth. Forehead slope (this can be affected by trauma extremely easily and the male here doesn't showcase it in this example). It's very obvious, male and female bone structure differs extremely. Body proportions and frame is very different too.
They look pretty similar from the side, but the male is very maldeveloped in this example. Still, browridge is a good sign for sure. Ramus length as well but as you can see it doesn't apply to these pics due to how badly developed the male is.

Frame and size is very different of course, just as in most animal. It's a better sign than head alone.

These are nonexistent, forged animals. A LOT of actually real animals have dimorphism.
They do, humans do too, but not much in the skull itself, mainly other features.
 
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"Short lower third" isn't a thing. It depends on mouth placement.
Not really , you measure that either by measuring the ramus or from bottom of mandible to teeth.
Those eyebrows are obviously caked on and plucked. High set eyebrows aren't necessarily feminine.
It's a desired dimorphic feature if women fraud it. But yea, not 100% feminine it's more regulated by epigenetics, although women had differnt epigenetic conditions so their eyebrows stayed high set.
 
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Dude don't even use modern "males" as an example for morphology. You don't know the shit that happened in this god forsaken place. Old skeletal finding are the only good source of anything regarding this.
Back then you obviously could determine the sex just from cheekbones, but the fact you no longer can proves that it's tied more to epigenetic development than to x/y chromosomes.
 
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theres nothing wrong/shameful about self-suck

only means your dick is long
 
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Op is retarded

remember my words
 
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