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cutecel1337

cutecel1337

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I have a narrow palate, my ortho refused to give me expander
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This is my palate.
I have braces for around year and half, my teeth were absolutely crooked so it helped me so much
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This my face without any fraud so all could see the bigonial width which is not that bad imo. Typical narrow prettyboy jaw like example Archie Cranch.
If i get expander when i dont need im scared to end with blocky face, i saw botched mse
which ended like this scenario, i know ortho doesnt pay attention to aesthetics they only care about good symmetric teeth.
What yall think?
 
palate and selfie aint adding up chief
 
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expander would make you cl honestly
 
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cutecel1337 said:
Idk bro they refuse to give me it, i rly dont know what should i do and my mum is bluepilled so believe my ortho
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blackpilled orthos

ProviderCountryStateCityNotes
Analía ChesiniArgentinaChajarí, Entre Ríos
Abdalhadi KawaiahAruba
Leo GohAustraliaMelbourne
Derek MahonyAustraliaSydney
Isabel DrewlingAustraliaSydney
Mirza GlusacBosnia HerzegovinaTuzla
Adana RibicBosnia HerzegovinaVitez
Daniel BrunettoBrazilCuritiba
Jonelle CrichtonCanadaAlbertaEdmonton
Christopher CantlonCanadaAlbertaGrande Prairie Alberta
Trista Felty TsangCanadaBritish ColumbiaAbbotsford
Mark LudenCanadaOntarioOttawa
Joel De Souza (Olde Oakville Dental)CanadaOntarioToronto (Oakville)MSE & Custom MARPE
Johanne SéguinCanadaQuébecMontréal
Sylvain ChamberlandCanadaQuébecQuebec city
Barbara CisaChileSantiago
Silvana Palacios TrentiniChileSantiago
Eduardo Miranda SalgueroEcuadorAmbato City
Juan Francisco González Ortodoncista.EcuadorCuenca
Alexis BenitsaFranceParis
Bruno FelpetoFranceParis
Raed SaeedIndia(calicut,malapuram,kannur) kerala
Mukund ZalavadiyaIndia1,Surat,India.
Arunkumar ThirugnanamIndiaBengaluru, Karnataka
Shakeel AhmedIndiaChennai, India
Girish PVIndiaDr Girish PV , Bangalore
Sukanta SealIndiaKolkata
Ejaz AnwarIndiaKollam, Kannur Kerala
Anurag MahaleIndiaMumbai
Aalok PuriIndiaShillong
Odontotecnica CastellanaItalyMMD
Raffaele SpenaItalyNapoli
Hirohide ArimotoJapanOsaka, Ashiya, Kobe
Mukund ZalavadiyaKenya2,Nairobi
Ivan TanatarecMacedoniaBitola and Skopje
Mei Leng LeeMalaysiaKuala Lumpur
Mario LeonMexicoCd. Obregón
Carlos PeraldiMexicoCiudad Juárez Chihuahua
Luis Felipe TaveraMexicoLuis Felipe Tavera Morelia Michoacan
Jorge Olalde LopezGavitoMexicoMazatlan
Veridian RodriguezMexicoMonterrey
Julieta Tello MoralesMexicoMorelia, Michoacan
Armando Dias da SilvaPortugalOporto
Christian SamoilaRomaniaTimisoara and Arad
Borko NovakovSerbiaBelgrade
Maria Jose Leyba ZavarseSpainValencia and Madrid
Pitera Schuänn HuangTaiwanTaipei
Mukund ZalavadiyaTanzania3,Dar es Salam
Puttipong TungpeerasitThailandChaiyaphum
Richard CousleyUKPeterborough
Sunil HiraniUKSmilelux Milton Keynes
Mary LoUK
Наталья ОрловаUkraineKyiv
Ahmed HenawyUkraine
Luis Nelson Nunez AlcantaroUruguayMontevideo
James, Thomas, and Richard RobleeUSARFayettevilleWork with remote patients from around the world
Nathan DavisUSAZMesa, Gilbert, Chandler, BuckeyeDoesn't use MSE for airway/sleep issues
Kristen HannUSCABrentwood
Marcus PaulsonUSCAInland empire San Bernardino county Redlands
Dovi PreroUSCALos Angeles
Kevin CoppelsonUSCALos Angeles
Rita ChuangUSCALos Angeles
Audrey YoonUSCALos Angeles
Jordan LambertonUSCANapa + Petaluma
Marcus PaulsonUSCARedlands-San Bernardino
Rosa EstradaUSCASalinas
Nancy PhanUSCASan Jose
Bridget PowersUSCASmile Power Orthodontics, Walnut Creek
Richard TingUSCASouth Orange county
Matthew GaworskiUSCO
Eman TraynorUSCTGreenwich
Zubad NewazUSFLAlso in NY
Batya GoldwaserUSFLHollywood
Alberto A. VargasUSFLJupiter
Roy KingUSFLJupiter/Palm Beach
Tim HerreUSFLKansas City
Jon ScottUSFLLakeland
Christopher EscottUSFLOrlando and central Florida
Arjun PatelUSGAAtlanta
Oleg EisensteinUSGAAtlanta
Steve TottoriUSHIKapolei and Honolulu
Hasan OthmanUSILChicago
Iwei HuangUSILIwei Huang, Chicago
Lisa BainesUSILSpringfield IL
Joe WnekUSINMishawaka
Greg JohnsonUSINAvon
Julian DavilaUSINIndianapolis
Anthony PuntilloUSINCrown Point
Amanda Marie SheehanUSMIDetroit
Baron GrutterUSMIGrand Rapids
Lou ChmuraUSMIMid Michigan
Justin JayUSMISoutheastern michigan
Maureen KuhtaUSMIDetroit
Karl PetersenUSMNMinneapoli
Jay JoshiUSMOKansas City
Joseph DastrupUSNCCharlotte
Clay VanderWallUSNCRaleigh/Durham/Cary
Meryl BaurmashUSNJBedminster and Toms River
Mikey DuongUSNJBergen and Essex County
Joseph J. GaudioUSNJMeryl Baurmash, Bedminster and Tom's River
Greg CampiUSNJWall and Hazlet
Ilya LipkinUSNJWestwood
Drew McDonaldUSNMAlbuquerque
Jeremy ManueleUSNVLas Vegas
Zubad NewazUSNYAlso in FL
Victor J.R. GrazinaUSNYManhattan, Riverhead & East Hampton
Leon SuUSNYWestchester
Jay ParekhUSOHAshland, KY / Portsmouth
Christopher TrockelUSOKTulsa, Oklahoma
Camille WalkerUSORBeaverton and Portland
Geoffrey SkinnerUSORHillsboro
Catherine FooteUSPABryn Mawr and Wayne
Todd WelshUSPADoylestown
Eric HowardUSPALancaster
Marianna EvansUSPANewtown Square, Glen Mills
Jason YangUSPAPhiladelphia
Elizabeth Cole CurtisUSPARidgway, Warren & DuBois
Craig StarlingUSTNNashville/ Brentwood
Justin TrislerUSTNOak Ridge
Akash PandyaUSTXAustin (north), Cedar Park
Jeannie MoodyUSTXAustin (southwest and downtown) and Dripping Springs Texas
Douglas R. ShawUSTXDallas
Carlos PeraldiUSTXEl paso
John KarotkinUSTXHouston
Katia LemkeUSTXHouston and Sugar Land
Eric Todd ScheyerUSTXHouston Texas with John Karotkin
Hilton GoldreichUSTXPlano, Frisco, Allen & Dallas
John PobanzUSUTOgden Utah
John PobanzUSUTOgden
Tracey NgyuenUSVALeesburg
Liliana CalkinsUSVALiliana Calkins, Restonwww.airwayandsleepgroup.com
Azita AbbasiUSVANorthern Virginia, Sterling
Camden BrownUSVICentral Virginia
Matt YehUSWABellingham
Neil WarshawskyUSWAChicago
Steve ClawsonUSWAFederal Way and Tacoma
Michelle Fogg NealUSWAKirkland
Ohie CharoenkulUSWARedmond
Rebecca BockowUSWASeattle and Bellevue WA 98101 and 98004
Brandon JohnsonUSWASnoqualmie
Douglas J Knight OrthodonticsUSWATacoma
Jacqueline HeathUSWILa Crosse area (Southwestern)
Meggie GrahamUSWIMilwaukee
Thao Bo TranVietnamHanoi
 
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blackpilled orthos

ProviderCountryStateCityNotes
Analía ChesiniArgentinaChajarí, Entre Ríos
Abdalhadi KawaiahAruba
Leo GohAustraliaMelbourne
Derek MahonyAustraliaSydney
Isabel DrewlingAustraliaSydney
Mirza GlusacBosnia HerzegovinaTuzla
Adana RibicBosnia HerzegovinaVitez
Daniel BrunettoBrazilCuritiba
Jonelle CrichtonCanadaAlbertaEdmonton
Christopher CantlonCanadaAlbertaGrande Prairie Alberta
Trista Felty TsangCanadaBritish ColumbiaAbbotsford
Mark LudenCanadaOntarioOttawa
Joel De Souza (Olde Oakville Dental)CanadaOntarioToronto (Oakville)MSE & Custom MARPE
Johanne SéguinCanadaQuébecMontréal
Sylvain ChamberlandCanadaQuébecQuebec city
Barbara CisaChileSantiago
Silvana Palacios TrentiniChileSantiago
Eduardo Miranda SalgueroEcuadorAmbato City
Juan Francisco González Ortodoncista.EcuadorCuenca
Alexis BenitsaFranceParis
Bruno FelpetoFranceParis
Raed SaeedIndia(calicut,malapuram,kannur) kerala
Mukund ZalavadiyaIndia1,Surat,India.
Arunkumar ThirugnanamIndiaBengaluru, Karnataka
Shakeel AhmedIndiaChennai, India
Girish PVIndiaDr Girish PV , Bangalore
Sukanta SealIndiaKolkata
Ejaz AnwarIndiaKollam, Kannur Kerala
Anurag MahaleIndiaMumbai
Aalok PuriIndiaShillong
Odontotecnica CastellanaItalyMMD
Raffaele SpenaItalyNapoli
Hirohide ArimotoJapanOsaka, Ashiya, Kobe
Mukund ZalavadiyaKenya2,Nairobi
Ivan TanatarecMacedoniaBitola and Skopje
Mei Leng LeeMalaysiaKuala Lumpur
Mario LeonMexicoCd. Obregón
Carlos PeraldiMexicoCiudad Juárez Chihuahua
Luis Felipe TaveraMexicoLuis Felipe Tavera Morelia Michoacan
Jorge Olalde LopezGavitoMexicoMazatlan
Veridian RodriguezMexicoMonterrey
Julieta Tello MoralesMexicoMorelia, Michoacan
Armando Dias da SilvaPortugalOporto
Christian SamoilaRomaniaTimisoara and Arad
Borko NovakovSerbiaBelgrade
Maria Jose Leyba ZavarseSpainValencia and Madrid
Pitera Schuänn HuangTaiwanTaipei
Mukund ZalavadiyaTanzania3,Dar es Salam
Puttipong TungpeerasitThailandChaiyaphum
Richard CousleyUKPeterborough
Sunil HiraniUKSmilelux Milton Keynes
Mary LoUK
Наталья ОрловаUkraineKyiv
Ahmed HenawyUkraine
Luis Nelson Nunez AlcantaroUruguayMontevideo
James, Thomas, and Richard RobleeUSARFayettevilleWork with remote patients from around the world
Nathan DavisUSAZMesa, Gilbert, Chandler, BuckeyeDoesn't use MSE for airway/sleep issues
Kristen HannUSCABrentwood
Marcus PaulsonUSCAInland empire San Bernardino county Redlands
Dovi PreroUSCALos Angeles
Kevin CoppelsonUSCALos Angeles
Rita ChuangUSCALos Angeles
Audrey YoonUSCALos Angeles
Jordan LambertonUSCANapa + Petaluma
Marcus PaulsonUSCARedlands-San Bernardino
Rosa EstradaUSCASalinas
Nancy PhanUSCASan Jose
Bridget PowersUSCASmile Power Orthodontics, Walnut Creek
Richard TingUSCASouth Orange county
Matthew GaworskiUSCO
Eman TraynorUSCTGreenwich
Zubad NewazUSFLAlso in NY
Batya GoldwaserUSFLHollywood
Alberto A. VargasUSFLJupiter
Roy KingUSFLJupiter/Palm Beach
Tim HerreUSFLKansas City
Jon ScottUSFLLakeland
Christopher EscottUSFLOrlando and central Florida
Arjun PatelUSGAAtlanta
Oleg EisensteinUSGAAtlanta
Steve TottoriUSHIKapolei and Honolulu
Hasan OthmanUSILChicago
Iwei HuangUSILIwei Huang, Chicago
Lisa BainesUSILSpringfield IL
Joe WnekUSINMishawaka
Greg JohnsonUSINAvon
Julian DavilaUSINIndianapolis
Anthony PuntilloUSINCrown Point
Amanda Marie SheehanUSMIDetroit
Baron GrutterUSMIGrand Rapids
Lou ChmuraUSMIMid Michigan
Justin JayUSMISoutheastern michigan
Maureen KuhtaUSMIDetroit
Karl PetersenUSMNMinneapoli
Jay JoshiUSMOKansas City
Joseph DastrupUSNCCharlotte
Clay VanderWallUSNCRaleigh/Durham/Cary
Meryl BaurmashUSNJBedminster and Toms River
Mikey DuongUSNJBergen and Essex County
Joseph J. GaudioUSNJMeryl Baurmash, Bedminster and Tom's River
Greg CampiUSNJWall and Hazlet
Ilya LipkinUSNJWestwood
Drew McDonaldUSNMAlbuquerque
Jeremy ManueleUSNVLas Vegas
Zubad NewazUSNYAlso in FL
Victor J.R. GrazinaUSNYManhattan, Riverhead & East Hampton
Leon SuUSNYWestchester
Jay ParekhUSOHAshland, KY / Portsmouth
Christopher TrockelUSOKTulsa, Oklahoma
Camille WalkerUSORBeaverton and Portland
Geoffrey SkinnerUSORHillsboro
Catherine FooteUSPABryn Mawr and Wayne
Todd WelshUSPADoylestown
Eric HowardUSPALancaster
Marianna EvansUSPANewtown Square, Glen Mills
Jason YangUSPAPhiladelphia
Elizabeth Cole CurtisUSPARidgway, Warren & DuBois
Craig StarlingUSTNNashville/ Brentwood
Justin TrislerUSTNOak Ridge
Akash PandyaUSTXAustin (north), Cedar Park
Jeannie MoodyUSTXAustin (southwest and downtown) and Dripping Springs Texas
Douglas R. ShawUSTXDallas
Carlos PeraldiUSTXEl paso
John KarotkinUSTXHouston
Katia LemkeUSTXHouston and Sugar Land
Eric Todd ScheyerUSTXHouston Texas with John Karotkin
Hilton GoldreichUSTXPlano, Frisco, Allen & Dallas
John PobanzUSUTOgden Utah
John PobanzUSUTOgden
Tracey NgyuenUSVALeesburg
Liliana CalkinsUSVALiliana Calkins, Restonwww.airwayandsleepgroup.com
Azita AbbasiUSVANorthern Virginia, Sterling
Camden BrownUSVICentral Virginia
Matt YehUSWABellingham
Neil WarshawskyUSWAChicago
Steve ClawsonUSWAFederal Way and Tacoma
Michelle Fogg NealUSWAKirkland
Ohie CharoenkulUSWARedmond
Rebecca BockowUSWASeattle and Bellevue WA 98101 and 98004
Brandon JohnsonUSWASnoqualmie
Douglas J Knight OrthodonticsUSWATacoma
Jacqueline HeathUSWILa Crosse area (Southwestern)
Meggie GrahamUSWIMilwaukee
Thao Bo TranVietnamHanoi
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Fuck im from Poland bro, its over 🪦
 
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User28823 said:
do u have a 6 tooth smile ?
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I do as well :feelswhy:

But once I get my tonsils removed (they block 70% of my goddamn airway) I'm getting Ortho including an MSE :oops::blackpill:
 
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cutecel1337 said:
what u recommend my nigga??
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to help you get an MSE from your Ortho?

Honestly just say the benefits you've heard online and beg ngl. Mines covered by insurance, but if you can pay then there's no reason for him to refuse.
 
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blackpilled orthos

ProviderCountryStateCityNotes
Analía ChesiniArgentinaChajarí, Entre Ríos
Abdalhadi KawaiahAruba
Leo GohAustraliaMelbourne
Derek MahonyAustraliaSydney
Isabel DrewlingAustraliaSydney
Mirza GlusacBosnia HerzegovinaTuzla
Adana RibicBosnia HerzegovinaVitez
Daniel BrunettoBrazilCuritiba
Jonelle CrichtonCanadaAlbertaEdmonton
Christopher CantlonCanadaAlbertaGrande Prairie Alberta
Trista Felty TsangCanadaBritish ColumbiaAbbotsford
Mark LudenCanadaOntarioOttawa
Joel De Souza (Olde Oakville Dental)CanadaOntarioToronto (Oakville)MSE & Custom MARPE
Johanne SéguinCanadaQuébecMontréal
Sylvain ChamberlandCanadaQuébecQuebec city
Barbara CisaChileSantiago
Silvana Palacios TrentiniChileSantiago
Eduardo Miranda SalgueroEcuadorAmbato City
Juan Francisco González Ortodoncista.EcuadorCuenca
Alexis BenitsaFranceParis
Bruno FelpetoFranceParis
Raed SaeedIndia(calicut,malapuram,kannur) kerala
Mukund ZalavadiyaIndia1,Surat,India.
Arunkumar ThirugnanamIndiaBengaluru, Karnataka
Shakeel AhmedIndiaChennai, India
Girish PVIndiaDr Girish PV , Bangalore
Sukanta SealIndiaKolkata
Ejaz AnwarIndiaKollam, Kannur Kerala
Anurag MahaleIndiaMumbai
Aalok PuriIndiaShillong
Odontotecnica CastellanaItalyMMD
Raffaele SpenaItalyNapoli
Hirohide ArimotoJapanOsaka, Ashiya, Kobe
Mukund ZalavadiyaKenya2,Nairobi
Ivan TanatarecMacedoniaBitola and Skopje
Mei Leng LeeMalaysiaKuala Lumpur
Mario LeonMexicoCd. Obregón
Carlos PeraldiMexicoCiudad Juárez Chihuahua
Luis Felipe TaveraMexicoLuis Felipe Tavera Morelia Michoacan
Jorge Olalde LopezGavitoMexicoMazatlan
Veridian RodriguezMexicoMonterrey
Julieta Tello MoralesMexicoMorelia, Michoacan
Armando Dias da SilvaPortugalOporto
Christian SamoilaRomaniaTimisoara and Arad
Borko NovakovSerbiaBelgrade
Maria Jose Leyba ZavarseSpainValencia and Madrid
Pitera Schuänn HuangTaiwanTaipei
Mukund ZalavadiyaTanzania3,Dar es Salam
Puttipong TungpeerasitThailandChaiyaphum
Richard CousleyUKPeterborough
Sunil HiraniUKSmilelux Milton Keynes
Mary LoUK
Наталья ОрловаUkraineKyiv
Ahmed HenawyUkraine
Luis Nelson Nunez AlcantaroUruguayMontevideo
James, Thomas, and Richard RobleeUSARFayettevilleWork with remote patients from around the world
Nathan DavisUSAZMesa, Gilbert, Chandler, BuckeyeDoesn't use MSE for airway/sleep issues
Kristen HannUSCABrentwood
Marcus PaulsonUSCAInland empire San Bernardino county Redlands
Dovi PreroUSCALos Angeles
Kevin CoppelsonUSCALos Angeles
Rita ChuangUSCALos Angeles
Audrey YoonUSCALos Angeles
Jordan LambertonUSCANapa + Petaluma
Marcus PaulsonUSCARedlands-San Bernardino
Rosa EstradaUSCASalinas
Nancy PhanUSCASan Jose
Bridget PowersUSCASmile Power Orthodontics, Walnut Creek
Richard TingUSCASouth Orange county
Matthew GaworskiUSCO
Eman TraynorUSCTGreenwich
Zubad NewazUSFLAlso in NY
Batya GoldwaserUSFLHollywood
Alberto A. VargasUSFLJupiter
Roy KingUSFLJupiter/Palm Beach
Tim HerreUSFLKansas City
Jon ScottUSFLLakeland
Christopher EscottUSFLOrlando and central Florida
Arjun PatelUSGAAtlanta
Oleg EisensteinUSGAAtlanta
Steve TottoriUSHIKapolei and Honolulu
Hasan OthmanUSILChicago
Iwei HuangUSILIwei Huang, Chicago
Lisa BainesUSILSpringfield IL
Joe WnekUSINMishawaka
Greg JohnsonUSINAvon
Julian DavilaUSINIndianapolis
Anthony PuntilloUSINCrown Point
Amanda Marie SheehanUSMIDetroit
Baron GrutterUSMIGrand Rapids
Lou ChmuraUSMIMid Michigan
Justin JayUSMISoutheastern michigan
Maureen KuhtaUSMIDetroit
Karl PetersenUSMNMinneapoli
Jay JoshiUSMOKansas City
Joseph DastrupUSNCCharlotte
Clay VanderWallUSNCRaleigh/Durham/Cary
Meryl BaurmashUSNJBedminster and Toms River
Mikey DuongUSNJBergen and Essex County
Joseph J. GaudioUSNJMeryl Baurmash, Bedminster and Tom's River
Greg CampiUSNJWall and Hazlet
Ilya LipkinUSNJWestwood
Drew McDonaldUSNMAlbuquerque
Jeremy ManueleUSNVLas Vegas
Zubad NewazUSNYAlso in FL
Victor J.R. GrazinaUSNYManhattan, Riverhead & East Hampton
Leon SuUSNYWestchester
Jay ParekhUSOHAshland, KY / Portsmouth
Christopher TrockelUSOKTulsa, Oklahoma
Camille WalkerUSORBeaverton and Portland
Geoffrey SkinnerUSORHillsboro
Catherine FooteUSPABryn Mawr and Wayne
Todd WelshUSPADoylestown
Eric HowardUSPALancaster
Marianna EvansUSPANewtown Square, Glen Mills
Jason YangUSPAPhiladelphia
Elizabeth Cole CurtisUSPARidgway, Warren & DuBois
Craig StarlingUSTNNashville/ Brentwood
Justin TrislerUSTNOak Ridge
Akash PandyaUSTXAustin (north), Cedar Park
Jeannie MoodyUSTXAustin (southwest and downtown) and Dripping Springs Texas
Douglas R. ShawUSTXDallas
Carlos PeraldiUSTXEl paso
John KarotkinUSTXHouston
Katia LemkeUSTXHouston and Sugar Land
Eric Todd ScheyerUSTXHouston Texas with John Karotkin
Hilton GoldreichUSTXPlano, Frisco, Allen & Dallas
John PobanzUSUTOgden Utah
John PobanzUSUTOgden
Tracey NgyuenUSVALeesburg
Liliana CalkinsUSVALiliana Calkins, Restonwww.airwayandsleepgroup.com
Azita AbbasiUSVANorthern Virginia, Sterling
Camden BrownUSVICentral Virginia
Matt YehUSWABellingham
Neil WarshawskyUSWAChicago
Steve ClawsonUSWAFederal Way and Tacoma
Michelle Fogg NealUSWAKirkland
Ohie CharoenkulUSWARedmond
Rebecca BockowUSWASeattle and Bellevue WA 98101 and 98004
Brandon JohnsonUSWASnoqualmie
Douglas J Knight OrthodonticsUSWATacoma
Jacqueline HeathUSWILa Crosse area (Southwestern)
Meggie GrahamUSWIMilwaukee
Thao Bo TranVietnamHanoi
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is this from the guy with an alien pfp?
 
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cutecel1337 said:
mirin, we dream to live in us but like miami or nyc JFL
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Lollll no you don't trust. You only see the nice parts but the vast majority of major cities like that smells like shit and there's homeless people everywhere and niggers and robbers and scammer and it sucks dick.

If I had to move I'd move to Poland cuz y'all's immigration isn't bad and your government actually cares about you. Not only that, but there's mad femboys everywhere.
 
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