Serious My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

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Stopping@Nothing19 said:
i agree, there is no surgery for race sadly
Is my race unattractive for womans? I'm Turk and my skin color is white.
 
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AlexChase89 said:
Obviously a very good result.
No.
He should have lost a lot more weight before even going for surgery tbh.
Regarding the surgery, the after (too early to judge bimax) especially the nose is just completely abysmal because the nasal length appears reduced (due to the 2nd point), nasal base inclination increased exposing the external nares, and even the nasal tip projection seems reduced. All 3 of those visual changes result in a much more softer and feminine appearance for both the side and front views of the face. OldVirgin @OldVirgin is correct in saying the nose looks feminine. Not only does it look more feminine but it absolutely does not fit his phenotype.

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Kingkellz said:
No.
He should have lost a lot more weight before even going for surgery tbh.
Regarding the surgery, the after (too early to judge bimax) especially the nose is just completely abysmal because the nasal length appears reduced (due to the 2nd point), nasal base inclination increased exposing the external nares, and even the nasal tip projection seems reduced. All 3 of those visual changes result in a much more softer and feminine appearance for both the side and front views of the face. OldVirgin @OldVirgin is correct in saying the nose looks feminine. Not only does it look more feminine but it absolutely does not fit his phenotype.

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im still swollen and bruised this is no way indicative of the final results. I will be posting 3 month photos next month all in passport equivalent so no frauding.

I was 144lb in the before and 128lb in the after. I was off roids the entire time.

The nose will drop and it already had compared to these photos.
 
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Gaia262 said:
im still swollen and bruised this is no way indicative of the final results. I will be posting 3 month photos next month all in passport equivalent so no frauding.

I was 144lb in the before and 128lb in the after. I was off roids the entire time.

The nose will drop and it already had compared to these photos.
Regarding the nose alot of koreans get injections to achieve this high nosed look, so you can too If you want its jus with injection I think
 
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Gaia262 said:
It does look good ngl.

Next month I will post my 3 month pictures then we can see after i regained my weight and swelling has come down significantly.
Can you tag me pls ?
 
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Bimax next month. Can’t wait to fix my tiny lower third
 
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Gaia262 said:
I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.


9:37 for surgical video


Note: These are no way representative of the final results and only shows up to day 7 when swelling and bruising is at its peak. Regarding the nose it will drop and look natural as swelling subsides and is purposely done this way in anticipation of it dropping. I will be re doing this In HD with final post op pics and video.

Inter-op before and after



View attachment 1369922

View attachment 1369924

Before and after 3 weeks (extremely swollen and bruised)

View attachment 1369928

Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

L @Lorsss A @Alexanderr Gargantuan @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way.
I wish you got ramus widening and ramus height
 
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Titbot said:
I wish you got ramus widening and ramus height

With thick skin, just gives you a bloated look or a caveman look with my phenotype.

I prefer the neotonous look.

Overtime on testosterone should cause some growth in that area.
 
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Gaia262 said:
With thick skin, just gives you a bloated look or a caveman look with my phenotype.

I prefer the neotonous look.

Overtime on testosterone should cause some growth in that area.
Bro you are underestimating how important Dymorphism is
 
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Titbot said:
Bro you are underestimating how important Dymorphism is

Its what's the best within the realms of your phenotype.

People wanted larger maxilla movements on me, but there was a massive risk of chimp limp with my phenotype.

Adding an implant onto my ramus or mandible will just bloat me up further with larger cheeks and thick skin covering any angularity.

Dymorphism will just make me look older, low trust , low IQ and more like an ape putting it simply.


I'm just fixing failos and to create harmony. Then i can move onto other things.

Trying to force to create halos is where things go wrong.
 
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Gaia262 said:
Its what's the best within the realms of your phenotype.

People wanted larger maxilla movements on me, but there was a massive risk of chimp limp with my phenotype.

Adding an implant onto my ramus or mandible will just bloat me up further with larger cheeks and thick skin covering any angularity.

Dymorphism will just make me look older, low trust , low IQ and more like an ape putting it simply.


I'm just fixing failos and to create harmony. Then i can move onto other things.

Trying to force to create halos is where things go wrong.
Ramus widening is an ostoenomy not an implant. You can do a ramus cut osteo to heighten the ramus
 
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Titbot said:
Ramus widening is an ostoenomy not an implant. You can do a ramus cut osteo to heighten the ramus

I'm not adding in obscure surgeries that will require me to go back through the whole surgical process, risking nerve damage again. For what would give me 0.1psl boost.

Like i said i will correct as many failos as possible and move on regarding my face.
 
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Gaia262 said:
I'm not adding in obscure surgeries that will require me to go back through the whole surgical process, risking nerve damage again. For what would give me 0.1psl boost.

Like i said i will correct as many failos as possible and move on regarding my face.
Ok. What surgery is next
 
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Gaia262 said:
I'm not adding in obscure surgeries that will require me to go back through the whole surgical process, risking nerve damage again. For what would give me 0.1psl boost.

Like i said i will correct as many failos as possible and move on regarding my face.
I understand but having the lower third dymoriphic vertical height is so important. It helps hide assymetries
 

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lilhorizontal32 said:
King :love:

have a lot of respect for everything you have done for yourself brother. I know it must have been a long and difficult struggle and want to let you know that we greatly appreciate your contribution here :heart:
same hes a top guy
Gaia262 said:
I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.


9:37 for surgical video


Note: These are no way representative of the final results and only shows up to day 7 when swelling and bruising is at its peak. Regarding the nose it will drop and look natural as swelling subsides and is purposely done this way in anticipation of it dropping. I will be re doing this In HD with final post op pics and video.

Inter-op before and after



View attachment 1369922

View attachment 1369924

Before and after 3 weeks (extremely swollen and bruised)

View attachment 1369928

Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

L @Lorsss A @Alexanderr Gargantuan @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way.
congrats brother ; dont worry the swelling will subside soon and in about 2 months you will be eating solid foods; in about a year you'll be all set; i will talk to you again in DMs sometime (y)
Titbot said:
I understand but having the lower third dymoriphic vertical height is so important. It helps hide assymetries
this is not you :feelskek:
 
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You plan to get anything else done OP?
What's your plan for life once all recovered- I know we can put everything in our lives on hold until we have ascended
 
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Chadethnic101 said:
You plan to get anything else done OP?
What's your plan for life once all recovered- I know we can put everything in our lives on hold until we have ascended

Not really its all done, just need swelling to come down and to bring it all together.

For life goals just moving onto business now.
 
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Gaia262 said:
Not really its all done, just need swelling to come down and to bring it all together.

For life goals just moving onto business now.
After my UE fillers and maxxing my physique I'll be done too
What about slaying my brother?
 
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Chadethnic101 said:
W

After my UE fillers and maxxing my physique I'll be done too
What about slaying my brother?

My overall psl gain won't make me a slayer, its just enough to not be failed hard by my looks.
 
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Kingkellz said:
No.
He should have lost a lot more weight before even going for surgery tbh.
Regarding the surgery, the after (too early to judge bimax) especially the nose is just completely abysmal because the nasal length appears reduced (due to the 2nd point), nasal base inclination increased exposing the external nares, and even the nasal tip projection seems reduced. All 3 of those visual changes result in a much more softer and feminine appearance for both the side and front views of the face. OldVirgin @OldVirgin is correct in saying the nose looks feminine. Not only does it look more feminine but it absolutely does not fit his phenotype.

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I usually think it's a meme surgery but op could benefit from buccal fat removal imo
 
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Gaia262 said:
My overall psl gain won't make me a slayer, its just enough to not be failed hard by my looks.
That's gutting bro, surely your body must help loads no?
Are you Indian right? Indian girls would surely be Mirin bro
 
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Titbot said:
I understand but having the lower third dymoriphic vertical height is so important. It helps hide assymetries
Is that you ? You look very good. Mistaken you with Zach cox with dyed hair.
 
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Kingkellz said:
No.
He should have lost a lot more weight before even going for surgery tbh.
Regarding the surgery, the after (too early to judge bimax) especially the nose is just completely abysmal because the nasal length appears reduced (due to the 2nd point), nasal base inclination increased exposing the external nares, and even the nasal tip projection seems reduced. All 3 of those visual changes result in a much more softer and feminine appearance for both the side and front views of the face. OldVirgin @OldVirgin is correct in saying the nose looks feminine. Not only does it look more feminine but it absolutely does not fit his phenotype.

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(morph credits to P @Pendejo)
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what about this?
Preston @Preston
 
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I wish you got ramus widening and ramus height
Isn't what BSSO does is increase the ramus's width and height, or am I misinformed? I thought OP did BSSO. Please do correct my observations if they are false.

Just trying to learn more on these operations man, thanks for your time.
 
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Hankhill2160 said:
Isn't what BSSO does is increase the ramus's width and height, or am I misinformed? I thought OP did BSSO. Please do correct my observations if they are false.

Just trying to learn more on these operations man, thanks for your time.
Google bsso and see where the cut is. Decent amount in front of ramus, so it has no impact on it.
 
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maketheforumprivate said:
Regarding the nose alot of koreans get injections to achieve this high nosed look, so you can too If you want its jus with injection I think
explain
 
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Gaia262 said:
I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

Introduction- before surgery (will be longer in the final draft)


I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.


9:37 for surgical video


Note: These are no way representative of the final results and only shows up to day 7 when swelling and bruising is at its peak. Regarding the nose it will drop and look natural as swelling subsides and is purposely done this way in anticipation of it dropping. I will be re doing this In HD with final post op pics and video.

guys you know how long the swelling is for this surgery i'm trying to give you what i can.

Inter-op before and after



View attachment 1369922

View attachment 1369924

Before and after 3 weeks (extremely swollen and bruised) Not representative of the final results.

View attachment 1369928

Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

L @Lorsss A @Alexanderr Gargantuan @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way.
an absolute warrior op once again have a speedy recovery bro (y):love:
 
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Should have gotten Lefort 3 lmao
 
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Reckless Turtle said:
This was surprisingly affordable. All of that in the US could easily be $60k+ considering the expertise of the surgeons involved.
Giant Implants LLC is surpriisngly MUCH mor e afforable just alook at thi:




Evrtyone thins ts a joke but as yu can se itsa xtrmely etabshed nstargrm.
 
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What was the reason your orthodontist removed the 4 premolars ("4 on the floor"). If they had done some palatal expansion instead, would it not have facilitated even better results?
Enjoy your new looks brah!
 
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wholooksmax said:
What was the reason your orthodontist removed the 4 premolars ("4 on the floor"). If they had done some palatal expansion instead, would it not have facilitated even better results?
Enjoy your new looks brah!

They only removed two premolars this was to decompensate the teeth and retract to alloe a bigger bsso.

Bigger the overjet the bigger the bsso.

I also had two lower wisdom teeth removed this is where they do the bsso cut.
 
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Cardiologyscribe said:
Giant Implants LLC is surpriisngly MUCH mor e afforable just alook at thi:




Evrtyone thins ts a joke but as yu can se itsa xtrmely etabshed nstargrm.
He is just a meme machine. I can't take this guy seriously. Plus he is kinda young with no experience.
 
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Kingkellz said:
No.
He should have lost a lot more weight before even going for surgery tbh.
Regarding the surgery, the after (too early to judge bimax) especially the nose is just completely abysmal because the nasal length appears reduced (due to the 2nd point), nasal base inclination increased exposing the external nares, and even the nasal tip projection seems reduced. All 3 of those visual changes result in a much more softer and feminine appearance for both the side and front views of the face. OldVirgin @OldVirgin is correct in saying the nose looks feminine. Not only does it look more feminine but it absolutely does not fit his phenotype.

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These morphs always look amazing. Why are these not surgically possible?
 
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Hankhill2160 said:
Isn't what BSSO does is increase the ramus's width and height, or am I misinformed? I thought OP did BSSO. Please do correct my observations if they are false.

Just trying to learn more on these operations man, thanks for your time.
Bsso means splitting the jaw on both sides. There are various different splits.

most common is the Obwegeser split.

a bsso can not change the height of a ramus but it can be used to widen the jaw
 
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anonymous8675 said:
These morphs always look amazing. Why are these not surgically possible?
The morph looks pretty much exactly like the result but with a taller nose bridge. The real result also has a more slanted philtrum but that could be due to swelling
 
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CristianT said:
He is just a meme machine. I can't take this guy seriously. Plus he is kinda young with no experience.
He has very real results, much satisfaction.
 
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Gaia262 @Gaia262 why were you crying in the video? around 17 minute mark. whats up?
 

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