New potential way to measure forward growth (Facial depth to height ratio)

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

When we think of forward growth, we usually think of faces that are wide from the side, and compact. We think of recession as long, flat faces. So I believe that a good way to measure forward growth would be to measure the facial depth to height ratio from the side profile.

The measurement goes as the following:

Crop a box with the length being the distance from the nasion until most protrusive part of chin and the width being the distance from the tragus until the length line. You then divide the width by the height and you'll get your facial depth to height (fDHR) ratio.

IDEAL MEASUREMENT IS 1.06-1.07


Reminder: Make sure head posture is the same as the example pic when measuring



Here are some measurements of models/celebrities:

Brad Pitt: 1.093 fDHR

Margot Robbie: 1.125 fDHR

Jordan Barrett: 1.03 fDHR

Sean O'Pry: 1 fDHR

Henry Cavill: 1.06 fDHR

Keep in mind forward growth is mostly developmental, as Margot Robbie has near perfect development and gets the highest I've seen so far. Whereas Barrett isn't so impressive on this albeit having the highest fWHR and midface ratio here (which is mostly genetic).

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

what would pitts measurement be

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

what would pitts measurement be

1.093

 

[betamanlet]

IDEAL MEASUREMENT IS 1.06-1.07

Why?

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

oh look... it's over again

 

[Deleted member 2748]

you might be onto something

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Why?

its the measurement of the example pic i used

 

[uglymofo]

uh i have like 1,3 with this

 

[Nosecel]

Nice thread but make some measurements of models(Barret) and put it into the op.

 

[goat2x]

uh i have like 1,3 with this

same
it depends on angle height position and all that shit
mew indicator is better

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

uh i have like 1,3 with this

with the same posture as the example pic? keep in mind margot robbie, who has top tier development, scored a 1.125 with this.

 

[uglymofo]

with the same posture as the example pic? keep in mind margot robbie, who has top tier development, scored a 1.125 with this.

ye im very foward grown havent measured exactly can do later

 

[goat2x]

ye im very foward grown havent measured exactly can do later

Whats mew indicator mm?

 

[uglymofo]

Whats mew indicator mm?

haven’t measured tbh

 

[godlikesz]

 

[Deleted member 2661]

What if the chin overprojects the nasion like Barrett here

 

[Bromose]

High iq thread ngl

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

What if the chin overprojects the nasion like Barrett here
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has nothing to do with the length part, just make sure it ends at the point where the chin projects the most. the line for length is positioned at the nasion

 

[betamanlet]

its the measurement of the example pic i used

But the example is just a rough anatomic illustration Why would you assume it to have ideal proportions?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

But the example is just a rough anatomic illustration Why would you assume it to have ideal proportions?

because the model is used by academics and it fits well with the human skull

 

[betamanlet]

because the model is used by academics and it fits well with the human skull

Yes, but for what purpose? To illustrate ideal facial proportions, or the Frankfurt plane?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Yes, but for what purpose? To illustrate ideal facial proportions, or the Frankfurt plane?

ideal facial proportions on the frankfurt plane

 

[betamanlet]

ideal facial proportions on the frankfurt plane

Lol.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Lol.

its probably the most accurate of a model we can get for this measurement, its a normal human skull and tragus is positioned at the tmd and the nasion is where it should be, which are the only pieces of info we need

 

[abdu21xchad]

how would u accouunt for tilting heads

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

how would u accouunt for tilting heads

literally just have the same posture as the example pic i posted or any of the models/celebs examples

 

[betamanlet]

its probably the most accurate of a model we can get for this measurement, its a normal human skull and tragus is positioned at the tmd and the nasion is where it should be, which are the only pieces of info we need

It's not a bad model. However, using a drawing to determine an ideal measurement down to two decimals is a considerable stretch.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

It's not a bad model. However, using a drawing to determine an ideal measurement down to two decimals is a considerable stretch.

except that the decimals make a big difference due to the surface area being covered, take for instance opry and barretts forward growth difference

 

[betamanlet]

except that the decimals make a big difference due to the surface area being covered, take for instance opry and barretts forward growth difference

Fair enough.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

ye im very foward grown havent measured exactly can do later

bullshit, pic or larp

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

garbage because I get 1.04

 

[Chad69]

This is utter shit,disgusting posts,soo low IQ,soo what if someone has a long midface and good forward growth?He is going to have a rectangle?SHIT THREAD

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

This is utter shit,disgusting posts,soo low IQ,soo what if someone has a long midface and good forward growth?He is going to have a rectangle?SHIT THREAD

i have 1.13 midface ratio and a .96 on this

 

[Deleted member 3162]

So i'm like 0.85 or some shit. lmfao

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

garbage because I get 1.04

not ideal, ideal is 1.06/1.07

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

not ideal, ideal is 1.06/1.07

are you fucking kidding me? that's in measurement error range. your method doesn't work

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

are you fucking kidding me? that's in measurement error range. your method doesn't work

it isnt due to the surface area being covered. check barrett vs opry forward growth, only a difference of .03 but barrett looks way more forward grown

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

it isnt due to the surface area being covered. check barrett vs opry forward growth, only a difference of .03 but barrett looks way more forward grown

give me a method that gives someone like @Holymanro a score that's at least 35% lower than Robbie, then we're talking

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

give me a method that gives someone like @Holymanro a score that's at least 35% lower than Robbie, then we're talking

send a pic of him from the side with frankfurt plane posture, robbie is still the highest scoring ive seen so far

 

[Deleted member 1934]

Your side profile either looks good or it doesnt. Why care about autistic measurements

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Your side profile either looks good or it doesnt. Why care about autistic measurements

because the better the measurement the better the side profile looks?

 

[Deleted member 1934]

because the better the measurement the better the side profile looks?

Autism

 

[Pei]

When we think of forward growth, we usually think of faces that are wide from the side, and compact. We think of recession as long, flat faces. So I believe that a good way to measure forward growth would be to measure the facial depth to height ratio from the side profile.

The measurement goes as the following:
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Crop a box with the length being the distance from the nasion until most protrusive part of chin and the width being the distance from the tragus until the length line. You then divide the width by the height and you'll get your facial depth to height (fDHR) ratio.

IDEAL MEASUREMENT IS 1.06-1.07


Reminder: Make sure head posture is the same as the example pic when measuring



Here are some measurements of models/celebrities:

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Brad Pitt: 1.093 fDHR


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Margot Robbie: 1.125 fDHR

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Jordan Barrett: 1.03 fDHR

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Sean O'Pry: 1 fDHR

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Henry Cavill: 1.06 fDHR

Keep in mind forward growth is mostly developmental, as Margot Robbie has near perfect development and gets the highest I've seen so far. Whereas Barrett isn't so impressive on this albeit having the highest fWHR and midface ratio here (which is mostly genetic).

Is she more forward grown than Margot?

 

[NekotronXD]

what the fuck i got 1.19

 

[niggersodomizer69]

Either I'm a retard and don't measure it correctly, or mine is 1.17. Either way, I probably face-depth mog 99 percent of flatcels here

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

You will know if it matters with your eyes