New way to measure ES ratio

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Look at Zayn Malik:

He has an es ratio of .418, yet he looks completely normal, whats going on?

It's because his jaw width is proportional to his IPD. Bigonial should equal 2x IPD. Zayn gets a .9836 IPD(2x) to bigonial ratio, which is very near to the 1:1 ideal.

 

[Deleted member 7076]

dn rd but i luv u

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

dn rd but i luv u

not even long tho, might be good info for ur site tbh

 

[Ocelot]

I think it might be because absolute values matter too. It's like "x shoulder/waist ratio is uncanny"

For instance, Barrett has a very similar ES ratio yet looks like a balloon because his bizygo is simply too wide for a human itself.

If his IPD were any wider to compensate for his massive bizygo, he'd still look uncanny

 

[Deleted member 7076]

not even long tho, might be good info for ur site tbh

jfl i stopped creating that a while back

 

[randomvanish]

i struggle to believe this clown zayn is actually good looking. he's a lot better than average, that's all.
so setting a new lookism theory by giving example as his face is just dumb.

some people with certain features (immigrant, dark pheno) is promoted by mass media.

who would give a shit about this guy if he didn't go out in a fucking boyband with that look anyway...

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

tags tbh or this thread goes under the bus: @streege @Alban @Bromose @thecel @xefo69 @Tom2004 @hairyballscel @Bronze8 @EreptileDysfunction @Deliciadecu (interested to hear ur thoughts on this)

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

I think it might be because absolute values matter too. It's like "x shoulder/waist ratio is uncanny"

For instance, Barrett has a very similar ES ratio yet looks like a balloon because his bizygo is simply too wide for a human itself.

If his IPD were any wider to compensate for his massive bizygo, he'd still look uncanny

barrett has a near 1:1 bizygo and bigonial, so he would do dogshit on this measurement too

 

[Ocelot]

i struggle to believe this clown zayn is actually good looking. he's a lot better than average, that's all.
so setting a new lookism theory by giving example as his face is just dumb.

some people with certain features (immigrant, dark pheno) is promoted by mass media.

who would give a shit about this guy if he didn't go out in a fucking boyband with that look anyway...

he has no major failos, which is often superior to pure bone mass. Similar to Chico in that sense, this is what most people refer to as "harmony."
no recession (by virtue of this, his bones are above average) above average eye shape, great nose, lips, decent colouring, hairline, etc.

the regular above average person you see on the street will probably have a strong jaw OR a good eye area + some failos

 

[ascentium]

Look at Zayn Malik:
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He has an es ratio of .418, yet he looks completely normal, whats going on?

It's because his jaw width is proportional to his IPD. Bigonial should equal 2x IPD. Zayn gets a .9836 IPD(2x) to bigonial ratio, which is very near to the 1:1 ideal.

Bigonial has nothing to do with it. ES is irrelevant if width is bizygomatic AND the posterior zygomatic arch sits below eye level. Facial width should be measured at eye level; at least as it pertains to es.

 

[Attorney]

I think it might be because absolute values matter too. It's like "x shoulder/waist ratio is uncanny"

For instance, Barrett has a very similar ES ratio yet looks like a balloon because his bizygo is simply too wide for a human itself.

If his IPD were any wider to compensate for his massive bizygo, he'd still look uncanny

Legit, what do you think about using the iris diameter as a constant to calculate facial ratios?

RESEARCH ON HORIZONTAL VISIBLE IRIS DIAMETER

Like I said, I am going to be posting all the research, evidence and information I can find relevant to the Iris Method. I am kinda slow with these posts, sorry about that, but they are still coming. Here are a few articles giving statistics on iris diameter I was able to find. I was content...

lookism.net

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Legit, what do you think about using the iris diameter as a constant to calculate facial ratios?

RESEARCH ON HORIZONTAL VISIBLE IRIS DIAMETER

Like I said, I am going to be posting all the research, evidence and information I can find relevant to the Iris Method. I am kinda slow with these posts, sorry about that, but they are still coming. Here are a few articles giving statistics on iris diameter I was able to find. I was content...

lookism.net

it is very accurate

 

[Ocelot]

Legit, what do you think about using the iris diameter as a constant to calculate facial ratios?

RESEARCH ON HORIZONTAL VISIBLE IRIS DIAMETER

Like I said, I am going to be posting all the research, evidence and information I can find relevant to the Iris Method. I am kinda slow with these posts, sorry about that, but they are still coming. Here are a few articles giving statistics on iris diameter I was able to find. I was content...

lookism.net

Was never a fan.
For ratios you don't need this, since, well it's ratio.

But for calculating absolute values, still not great.
Issue is that no one posts a proper head-on picture, unfrauded, straight into a camera. Almost never happens. By that I mean Frankfurt plane head tilt, and camera aligned with the facial midline. This will cause variations in measurements.
Secondly, the variation in iris diameter itself would influence measurements significantly. It's all a matter of mms.

Both these factors make it sort of unreliable.

 

[hairyballscel]

i'll read tomorrow, im too high to understand

 

[StrangerDanger]

Legit, what do you think about using the iris diameter as a constant to calculate facial ratios?

RESEARCH ON HORIZONTAL VISIBLE IRIS DIAMETER

Like I said, I am going to be posting all the research, evidence and information I can find relevant to the Iris Method. I am kinda slow with these posts, sorry about that, but they are still coming. Here are a few articles giving statistics on iris diameter I was able to find. I was content...

lookism.net

Seems more or less legit, this is kind of interesting

 

[Attorney]

Was never a fan.
For ratios you don't need this, since, well it's ratio.

But for calculating absolute values, still not great.
Issue is that no one posts a proper head-on picture, unfrauded, straight into a camera. Almost never happens. By that I mean Frankfurt plane head tilt, and camera aligned with the facial midline. This will cause variations in measurements.
Secondly, the variation in iris diameter itself would influence measurements significantly. It's all a matter of mms.

Both these factors make it sort of unreliable.

I see, what I meant was something like iris diameter to mouth width ratio, iris diameter to IPD ratio, etc.
(Sounds autistic af, I know it).

 

[Ocelot]

I see, what I meant was something like iris diameter to mouth width ratio, iris diameter to IPD ratio, etc.
(Sounds autistic af, I know it).

Would it really be necessary?

Never have I seen a mouth that's "too wide," and a narrow mouth can be easily discerned either by looking at it/mouth to nose ratio.
Closest to a mouth that's too wide is Chris Carmack.

Better to not use it for IPD too. ES is used because IPD is reliant a lot on facial width too.
Iris diameter won't really affect how your IPD looks ultimately to a normie.
Might as well just say "x mm of IPD is ideal"

 

[Attorney]

Would it really be necessary?

Never have I seen a mouth that's "too wide," and a narrow mouth can be easily discerned either by looking at it/mouth to nose ratio.
Closest to a mouth that's too wide is Chris Carmack.

Better to not use it for IPD too. ES is used because IPD is reliant a lot on facial width too.
Iris diameter won't really affect how your IPD looks ultimately to a normie.
Might as well just say "x mm of IPD is ideal"

You are right tbh.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

good thread, nose bridge also prob comes into play tbh

 

[ascentium]

No response to me refuting your hypothesis.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

No response to me refuting your hypothesis.
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his es looks worse after widening his jaw

 

[randomvanish]

he is very gl tho...


look at the JBs in the comment section jfl.

weeknd adored by young girls too.
singers.

 

[sloopnoob]

he has such a wide good skull and im here stuck with peanut skull with a receding hairline

 

[ascentium]

he is very gl tho...


look at the JBs in the comment section jfl.