Palate Width & IPD [LOOKSMIN RESULT BY MSE]

[randomvanish]

After seeing mse results below;
Before - cute

After (ugly ogre slav villain)

I reconsider palate width again. To avoid William Defoe type ogre palate (which quite ugly), I think palate's widest end must be match with IPD AT MOST.
I know this is an extreme case but; Am i right? Is there any ratio or measurement for this?

After all, there is a reason why best looking guys like Chico or Henry Cavill have quite decent mouths rathen than big.

 

[mug]

mouth width is a dimorphic trait so he is more feminine in before and masculine after

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@Pakicel thoughts?

 

[randomvanish]

mouth width is a dimorphic trait so he is more feminine in before and masculine after

he looks UGLY on after. you don't even think twice to tell.

 

[sub5inchcel]

thats a big mouht

 

[mug]

he looks UGLY on after. you don't even think twice to tell.

yeah i just thought id provide insight as to why he looks cute before... also his nose appears stretched over his palate in after making him look like shrek

 

[Pakicel]

@Pakicel thoughts?

Too wide mouth can be just as bad as a too narrow mouth.

 

[randomvanish]

Too wide mouth

so what exactly the sweet spot?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Too wide mouth can be just as bad as a too narrow mouth.

I realise that duh brain but why and how does it take into harmony

 

[Pakicel]

so what exactly the sweet spot?

It depends. I think absolute width matters as much as relative width. So if you have low IPD, I think you can get away with a mouth a bit wider than IPD.

 

[6ft4]

fuck, his mouth is as wide as the outer part of his eyebrows after
What was he thinking when getting this

 

[randomvanish]

@tesseract @Acromegaly_Chad

 

[Pakicel]

I realise that duh brain but why and how does it take into harmony

Fucks up other ratios like nose-to-mouth and absolute measurements still matter. A narrow mouth still looks bad even if it isn't narrow relative to the other landmarks of the face.

 

[randomvanish]

Fucks up other ratios like nose-to-mouth and absolute measurements still matter. A narrow mouth still looks bad even if it isn't narrow relative to the other landmarks of the face.

bro we understand "harmony" fucked up. we ask how and where should be the line? if you don't know stop typing gibberish like "depends"

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Fucks up other ratios like nose-to-mouth and absolute measurements still matter. A narrow mouth still looks bad even if it isn't narrow relative to the other landmarks of the face.

So I have a slightly bad IPD, what should be my mouth width for Chadpreet effect?

 

[2d v2]

total animalistic mogger in the after

 

[Pakicel]

bro we understand "harmony" fucked up. we ask how and where should be the line? if you don't know stop typing gibberish like "depends"

Yeah. I am honestly not sure.

 

[Pakicel]

So I have a slightly bad IPD, what should be my mouth width for Chadpreet effect?

Nah. Your mouth width is fine based on what I have seen of you.

 

[mvp2v1]

After seeing mse results below;
Before - cute
View attachment 1906171

After (ugly ogre slav villain)
View attachment 1906170


I reconsider palate width again. To avoid William Defoe type ogre palate (which quite ugly), I think palate's widest end must be match with IPD AT MOST.
I know this is an extreme case but; Am i right? Is there any ratio or measurement for this?

You cherry picked the mid treatment result asshole. Post the actual final reault( I don’t really like it but it’s not deformed like the pick you used)

 

[randomvanish]

You chatty picked the mid treatment result asshole. Post the actual final reault( I don’t really like it but it’s not deformed like the pick you used)

stfu and go listen your subliminals

 

[Deleted member 19576]

he descended. That lips are too long.

 

[mvp2v1]

stfu and go listen your subliminals

That’s not the final result you fool. Do you know this or are you trying to misguide looksmaxer?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Nah. Your mouth width is fine based on what I have seen of you.

So any wider and I'd descend in your opinion yeah?

 

[mvp2v1]

That’s not the final result you fool. Do you know this or are you trying to misguide looksmaxer?

Actual final result.

Imo it still looks worse but we don’t know if there is still swelling or whatever is going on in the mid treatment pic, we also don’t know if it’s lighting puberty or something else. But I think he looked most aesthetic in the before

 

[randomvanish]

View attachment 1906189Actual final result.

still a descension but who am i talking with anyway

 

[randomvanish]

So any wider and I'd descend in your opinion yeah?

View attachment 1906185

slight:

msemaxxxxxxeedddddd :

 

[Pakicel]

So any wider and I'd descend in your opinion yeah?

View attachment 1906185

Actually, having a bit more mouth width could def help.

Try mouth-widening devices. They might work. or if that doesn't help, look into SARPE.

But it is not worth it in your case.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

View attachment 1906189Actual final result.

Imo it still looks worse but we don’t know if there is still swelling or whatever is going on in the mid treatment pic, we also don’t know if it’s lighting puberty or something else. But I think he looked most aesthetic in the before

looks more like a chad rn

 

[Pakicel]

slight:
View attachment 1906193

msemaxxxxxxeedddddd :
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MSE would be a shit option for him. It worsens asymmetries and, in his case, it would make his low ES ratio even worse.

 

[NegativeNorwood]

Ideal mouth width is 1.6-1.65 times the width of the nose, and should be similar (slightly less or equal) to IPD.
Keep in mind that most of the time the nose is not the right width, eye spacing may not be ideal, and face may be too wide or too narrow, so can't really apply measurements blindly to everyone.

This are ideal mouth areas IMO, note how they all have all around very high averageness too (good nose width, IPD and eye spacing, not overly wide or overly narrow faces). Basically, just be perfect theory.

 

[randomvanish]

MSE would be a shit option for him. It worsens asymmetries and, in his case, it would make his low ES ratio even worse.

any option for palate width (SARPE/MARPE/MSE) widens mouth too, AFAIK

 

[StrangerDanger]

Fuark mirin result

 

[Pakicel]

any option for palate width (SARPE/MARPE/MSE) widens mouth too, AFAIK

it is not guaranteed though

 

[randomvanish]

Fuark mirin result

annnnnd here is the even better, the final result :

can eat whole plate at once

 

[Mongrelcel]

Ideal mouth width is 1.6-1.65 times the width of the nose, and should be similar (slightly less or equal) to IPD.
Keep in mind that most of the time the nose is not the right width, eye spacing may not be ideal, and face may be too wide or too narrow, so can't really apply measurements blindly to everyone.

This are ideal mouth areas IMO, note how they all have all around very high averageness too (good nose width, IPD and eye spacing, not overly wide or overly narrow faces). Basically, just be perfect theory.

big factor was that his face shape changed, it's no longer rectangular, but this rather oval now

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

how much base imw is acceptable for mse without looking ogre?

 

[StrangerDanger]

annnnnd here is the even better, the final result :

View attachment 1906200

can eat whole plate at once

Fuark animalistic beast, needs to get his teeth in proper position so he can achieve that 16 tooth smile
Wondering what devouring food is like him for now

 

[randomvanish]

how much base imw is acceptable for mse without looking ogre?

for mse copers, any width can be narrow FFS

 

[ChristianChad]

Rare, successful MSE result. Most of the time you are not going to see such external changes, unless it's assymtries, lol.
What's the context for these pics?
@randomvanish @mvp2v1

 

[Deleted member 22126]

Is this mse ?

 

[randomvanish]

Is this mse ?

 

[Deleted member 22126]

Might get mse from this guy since i need lip width

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

After seeing mse results below;
Before - cute
View attachment 1906171

After (ugly ogre slav villain)
View attachment 1906170


I reconsider palate width again. To avoid William Defoe type ogre palate (which quite ugly), I think palate's widest end must be match with IPD AT MOST.
I know this is an extreme case but; Am i right? Is there any ratio or measurement for this?

After all, there is a reason why best looking guys like Chico or Henry Cavill have quite decent mouths rathen than big.

AFTER looks more dom imo

 

[randomvanish]

Might get mse from this guy since i need lip width

here you go

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

 

[Deleted member 3828]

Do you need to widen your lower palate as well after MSE to match palates up?

 

[StrangerDanger]

View attachment 1906221

When are you hopping on the MSE bandwagon
Imagine you with a huge palated mogger mouth/smile with perfect toofts spitting out all those sexy charismatic masculine virtues of yours

 

[mvp2v1]

Imo no looksmaxer should get MSDO.

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Ideal mouth width is 1.6-1.65 times the width of the nose, and should be similar (slightly less or equal) to IPD.
Keep in mind that most of the time the nose is not the right width, eye spacing may not be ideal, and face may be too wide or too narrow, so can't really apply measurements blindly to everyone.

This are ideal mouth areas IMO, note how they all have all around very high averageness too (good nose width, IPD and eye spacing, not overly wide or overly narrow faces). Basically, just be perfect theory.

OVER for my mouth

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

When are you hopping on the MSE bandwagon
Imagine you with a huge palated mogger mouth/smile with perfect toofts spitting out all those sexy charismatic masculine virtues of yours

First going to get the orbital infra rim implants. Then correct my canthal tilt to like it was when I was young and then may be do more research into it.

My only concern is that it might look a bit odd with mt slight ipd issue