Tall Jacked MTN vs. Short skinny Chadlite?

[ascension124]

@6ft4 Made a very interesting post about this.

If you have no SMV booster from Money or Status, Body size determines slaying frequency and face determines the foid quality

If you are trying to slay as a guy with no perceived money or status halo, your body size (height + frame + lean mass) will determine with how much frequency you can slay, while your face will determine the caliber of girls you can slay. eg. Tall, big framed jacked MTN slays 2 girls per month...

looksmax.org

So basically if a HTN or MTN is tall jacked RTT, will he just slay MORE of the girls that are on or slightly below his looks level? And the short skinny Chadlite will slay a lot less but his quality will be on his level?

Why does height/physique increase quantity but not quality? Wouldn't it bump up one's SMV overall?

In my prime phyisique days I slayed girls that were facially around either 1 point lower, same level, or 1 point above me (more rare).

Also LOCATION is another huge factor here: If one were in a location like a poorer area, height and physique may be more valued vs in a high class area face may be more valued. Poorer areas the girls think more primally (survival and protection) but in a high class area the girls are not worried about safety so they value face more.

@AlphaLooksmaxxer666 @Chadeep

 

[BucketCrab]

If one were in a location like a poorer area, height and physique may be more valued vs in a high class area face may be more valued. Poorer areas the girls think more primally (survival and protection) but in a high class area the girls are not worried about safety so they value face more.

This was actually proven in a study, but it was more related to physique than height or face.
Although logically speaking, yeah, I'd say NP girls typically value face above all else.
P girls also value face above all else, but they're more harsh on judging height and frame and thus you can generally compensate better.

 

[5'7manletcoper]

if youre SHORT and SKINNY both, youll look like a fucking child no matter how much your psl is, youll still fuck htbs but they all are realistically either very short like 4'10 range short or children. mtn whos tall and jacked is basically htn look at jacob elordi

 

[lepo2317]

Once again cope like "short MTN is gymming hard, has decent physique so I will compare him to chadlite with 7/10 but he is retarded and he can't hit gym once (it never happened in human history)". GTFO you dumb bitch.

 

[thorns]

another day another ogre cope thread

 

[5'7manletcoper]

give me some specific examples of short chadlite

 

[ascension124]

This was actually proven in a study, but it was more related to physique than height or face.
Although logically speaking, yeah, I'd say NP girls typically value face above all else.
P girls also value face above all else, but they're more harsh on judging height and frame and thus you can generally compensate better.

In my prime bodybuilder days I had weak HTN face, but was 6'3 with Jeff seid body and I was getting Chad treatment, even getting more IOIs at bars than guys with better faces because my physique stood out so much. But most of my slays were strong MTB-Weak HTB

 

[ascension124]

give me some specific examples of short chadlite

Forget Chadlite Im just saying a guy with avg face tall jacked vs good looking face but not tall or jacked

 

[Julian23]

I think a large part of it is because after a certain point, physique only really boosts your SMV in terms of ONS, which isn’t as appealing to more attractive women.

 

[Chadeep]

Maybe Attractive women look for overall package. Instead of Height fetishist girls.Who are usually MTB.

 

[ascension124]

Maybe Attractive women look for overall package. Instead of Height fetishist girls.Who are usually MTB.

Wbt physique?

 

[6ft4]

Also LOCATION is another huge factor here: If one were in a location like a poorer area, height and physique may be more valued vs in a high class area face may be more valued. Poorer areas the girls think more primally (survival and protection) but in a high class area the girls are not worried about safety so they value face more.

On this topic, I remember someone posting before that Southern / country girls in America have a preference for large guys regardless of whether it's muscle or a layer of fat you just need to be big. @Whatever was it you who said this or somebody else?

When I was at my largest of 95kg I noticed that I slayed rural foids quite easily but my size didn't seem to give me any advantage in slaying low class foids because they select for so many other traits before size.
Rural foids want large men who look like they were raised on animal products while urban foids are fine with petite, graincel bread eating men
Low class foids from the Shittish Isles will fuck a low class skinny manlet before they'll fuck a rural size mogger who they cant relate to behaviour wise.
Low class guys do have their equivalent of running size game which is being a 5'8-5'11 roidcel but this is always accompanied with the RTT look.
I don't think I've ever seen a low class guy who was roided and had non-tatted, youthful, clean looking skin.
Low class roiders always have poor quality skin covered in tats and don't surpass 6'

Of course low class foids would fuck a large, low class RTT rugby league playing jock but they dont really exist outside Australia and the UK.
As for Middle Class / High Class foids, maybe they're the most accepting of men being skinny but they're less accepting of manlets than low class foids.
All the fags who get social media attention for the "old money" look seem to be average height - tall with narrow, non gymcelled physiques.
I can't speak much on this because there is effectively no poshcels where I'm from.

 

[ascension124]

On this topic, I remember someone posting before that Southern / country girls in America have a preference for large guys regardless of whether it's muscle or a layer of fat you just need to be big. @Whatever was it you who said this or somebody else?

When I was at my largest of 95kg I noticed that I slayed rural foids quite easily but my size didn't seem to give me any advantage in slaying low class foids because they select for so many other traits before size.
Rural foids want large men who look like they were raised on animal products while urban foids are fine with petite, graincel bread eating men
Low class foids from the Shittish Isles will fuck a low class skinny manlet before they'll fuck a rural size mogger who they cant relate to behaviour wise.
Low class guys do have their equivalent of running size game which is being a 5'8-5'11 roidcel but this is always accompanied with the RTT look.
I don't think I've ever seen a low class guy who was roided and had non-tatted, youthful, clean looking skin.
Low class roiders always have poor quality skin covered in tats and don't surpass 6'

Of course low class foids would fuck a large, low class RTT rugby league playing jock but they dont really exist outside Australia and the UK.
As for Middle Class / High Class foids, maybe they're the most accepting of men being skinny but they're less accepting of manlets than low class foids.
All the fags who get social media attention for the "old money" look seem to be average height - tall with narrow, non gymcelled physiques.
I can't speak much on this because there is effectively no poshcels where I'm from.

Seems like youre in the UK I am in America. I am 6'3 RTT but have good skin and med pheno. What kinds of girls should I go for? I have the love island type look

 

[ascension124]

I had a lot of success with suburban girls vs city girls

 

[Chadeep]

Wbt physique?

Depends tbh. Lean Muscular is best. More mass doesn't correlate to more slay success. It's like male gaze at that point tbh. You'll be glazed by men more than women for physique.

 

[6ft4]

Seems like youre in the UK I am in America. I am 6'3 RTT but have good skin and med pheno. What kinds of girls should I go for? I have the love island type look

I cant give you any advice there but congrats on having such an archetype

 

[ascension124]

Depends tbh. Lean Muscular is best. More mass doesn't correlate to more slay success. It's like male gaze at that point tbh. You'll be glazed by men more than women for physique.

That’s cope I slayed the most at my biggest actual IRL results not internet theories

 

[TwoFace]

On this topic, I remember someone posting before that Southern / country girls in America have a preference for large guys regardless of whether it's muscle or a layer of fat you just need to be big. @Whatever was it you who said this or somebody else?

When I was at my largest of 95kg I noticed that I slayed rural foids quite easily but my size didn't seem to give me any advantage in slaying low class foids because they select for so many other traits before size.
Rural foids want large men who look like they were raised on animal products while urban foids are fine with petite, graincel bread eating men
Low class foids from the Shittish Isles will fuck a low class skinny manlet before they'll fuck a rural size mogger who they cant relate to behaviour wise.
Low class guys do have their equivalent of running size game which is being a 5'8-5'11 roidcel but this is always accompanied with the RTT look.
I don't think I've ever seen a low class guy who was roided and had non-tatted, youthful, clean looking skin.
Low class roiders always have poor quality skin covered in tats and don't surpass 6'

Of course low class foids would fuck a large, low class RTT rugby league playing jock but they dont really exist outside Australia and the UK.
As for Middle Class / High Class foids, maybe they're the most accepting of men being skinny but they're less accepting of manlets than low class foids.
All the fags who get social media attention for the "old money" look seem to be average height - tall with narrow, non gymcelled physiques.
I can't speak much on this because there is effectively no poshcels where I'm from.

What if im a 6'7 lowclass roidcell with a LTN face

 

[Chadeep]

That’s cope I slayed the most at my biggest actual IRL results not internet theories

How much you weigh? Above 30 BMI it's just downhill. 26-27 is sweet spot for mass.

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

I think because attractive woman want attractive men too. So they try to stay in their league by dating them. The tall jacked man sure must be big but just attracts woman in their league(not too attractive).And the majority of the women are not too attractive so the majority of them date the tall jacked mtn. Unless they find a tall jacked chad.

 

[ascension124]

How much you weigh? Above 30 BMI it's just downhill. 26-27 is sweet spot for mass.

Not bodybuilder tier but I had Jeff Seid physique and was around 15% body fat.

 

[DieVoGel6949]

Tbh chadlite face can be overrated. I'd much rather look average and be a man than look pretty good but be a manlet.

 

[merpXD]

Tbh chadlite face can be overrated. I'd much rather look average and be a man than look pretty good but be a manlet.

nothing manlier than slaying even if ur a prettyboy game is game

 

[DieVoGel6949]

nothing manlier than slaying even if ur a prettyboy game is game

Yeah but if you don't wanna look like a toddler either am I right?

 

[ascension124]

Yeah but if you don't wanna look like a toddler either am I right?

Let them cope masc guys have the highest laycounts regardless of looks level

 

[merpXD]

Yeah but if you don't wanna look like a toddler either am I right?

does it matter if u have hella bitches? fulfilling the only purpose u were created for

 

[merpXD]

Let them cope masc guys have the highest laycounts regardless of looks level

tsk tsk im not a particularly feminine dude either all im saying is do wtv u gotta do to slay doesnt matter if ur in her dms acting gay or blasting roids

 

[edodalic29]

low dimorphism is a death sentence
Short height is worse than a sub five face , go to tiktok interviews with women in night life they absolutely ridicule short men and despises their presence with such anger and hatred ive seen it all irl

 

[DieVoGel6949]

does it matter if u have hella bitches? fulfilling the only purpose u were created for

You'll honestly pull more looking more like true man with a commoner face than a manlet with a model face.

 

[LilJojo]

@6ft4 Made a very interesting post about this.

If you have no SMV booster from Money or Status, Body size determines slaying frequency and face determines the foid quality

If you are trying to slay as a guy with no perceived money or status halo, your body size (height + frame + lean mass) will determine with how much frequency you can slay, while your face will determine the caliber of girls you can slay. eg. Tall, big framed jacked MTN slays 2 girls per month...

looksmax.org

So basically if a HTN or MTN is tall jacked RTT, will he just slay MORE of the girls that are on or slightly below his looks level? And the short skinny Chadlite will slay a lot less but his quality will be on his level?

Why does height/physique increase quantity but not quality? Wouldn't it bump up one's SMV overall?

In my prime phyisique days I slayed girls that were facially around either 1 point lower, same level, or 1 point above me (more rare).

Also LOCATION is another huge factor here: If one were in a location like a poorer area, height and physique may be more valued vs in a high class area face may be more valued. Poorer areas the girls think more primally (survival and protection) but in a high class area the girls are not worried about safety so they value face more.

@AlphaLooksmaxxer666 @Chadeep

There are millions of tall jacked MTNs in the world. Chadlites no.

 

[merpXD]

You'll honestly pull more looking more like true man with a commoner face than a manlet with a model face.

one is invisible another is not, theres a difference even if minor

 

[DieVoGel6949]

one is invisible another is not, theres a difference even if minor

Yeah and guess who is literally harder to see?

 

[merpXD]

Yeah and guess who is literally harder to see?

even if manlet is harder to see theyll look at him for longer while common face masculine is nothing more than a passing wind

 

[DieVoGel6949]

even if manlet is harder to see theyll look at him for longer while common face masculine is nothing more than a passing wind

Usually the manlet is nice to look at but won't satisfy her as much as a real man

 

[merpXD]

Usually the manlet is nice to look at but won't satisfy her as much as a real man

"satisfy her as much as a real man" are you speaking from your experience being dicked down?

 

[DieVoGel6949]

"satisfy her as much as a real man" are you speaking from your experience being dicked down?

I'm speaking from a biological standpoint it's always the bigger males that get the females but there are exceptions

 

[merpXD]

I'm speaking from a biological standpoint it's always the bigger males that get the females but there are exceptions

yes and a well developed face is a sign of masculinity and high tes no? furthermore we're not living in the stone age anymore times have changed bhai

 

[DieVoGel6949]

yes and a well developed face is a sign of masculinity and high tes no? furthermore we're not living in the stone age anymore times have changed bhai

Women have repeatedly show disgust in short men

 

[merpXD]

Women have repeatedly show disgust in short men

yea when theyre average or bad looking, no woman is getting disgusted by htn-chadlite manlet. lay off the tiktoks its nothing like irl

 

[DieVoGel6949]

yea when theyre average or bad looking, no woman is getting disgusted by htn-chadlite manlet. lay off the tiktoks its nothing like irl

It's not only about women but also respect from other men

 

[TheBiggestIncelEver]

@6ft4 Made a very interesting post about this.

If you have no SMV booster from Money or Status, Body size determines slaying frequency and face determines the foid quality

If you are trying to slay as a guy with no perceived money or status halo, your body size (height + frame + lean mass) will determine with how much frequency you can slay, while your face will determine the caliber of girls you can slay. eg. Tall, big framed jacked MTN slays 2 girls per month...

looksmax.org

So basically if a HTN or MTN is tall jacked RTT, will he just slay MORE of the girls that are on or slightly below his looks level? And the short skinny Chadlite will slay a lot less but his quality will be on his level?

Why does height/physique increase quantity but not quality? Wouldn't it bump up one's SMV overall?

In my prime phyisique days I slayed girls that were facially around either 1 point lower, same level, or 1 point above me (more rare).

Also LOCATION is another huge factor here: If one were in a location like a poorer area, height and physique may be more valued vs in a high class area face may be more valued. Poorer areas the girls think more primally (survival and protection) but in a high class area the girls are not worried about safety so they value face more.

@AlphaLooksmaxxer666 @Chadeep

Eomen Will choose 6’4 bo2cel over 6 foot Jeremy Meeks

 

[merpXD]

It's not only about women but also respect from other men

respect isnt needed when youre banging their wives

 

[Whatever]

On this topic, I remember someone posting before that Southern / country girls in America have a preference for large guys regardless of whether it's muscle or a layer of fat you just need to be big. @Whatever was it you who said this or somebody else?

When I was at my largest of 95kg I noticed that I slayed rural foids quite easily but my size didn't seem to give me any advantage in slaying low class foids because they select for so many other traits before size.
Rural foids want large men who look like they were raised on animal products while urban foids are fine with petite, graincel bread eating men
Low class foids from the Shittish Isles will fuck a low class skinny manlet before they'll fuck a rural size mogger who they cant relate to behaviour wise.
Low class guys do have their equivalent of running size game which is being a 5'8-5'11 roidcel but this is always accompanied with the RTT look.
I don't think I've ever seen a low class guy who was roided and had non-tatted, youthful, clean looking skin.
Low class roiders always have poor quality skin covered in tats and don't surpass 6'

Of course low class foids would fuck a large, low class RTT rugby league playing jock but they dont really exist outside Australia and the UK.
As for Middle Class / High Class foids, maybe they're the most accepting of men being skinny but they're less accepting of manlets than low class foids.
All the fags who get social media attention for the "old money" look seem to be average height - tall with narrow, non gymcelled physiques.
I can't speak much on this because there is effectively no poshcels where I'm from.

Yes, to get countryish girls here it’s JBL (just be large). They don’t seem to care about higher bf%, but being a framelet like me isn’t the ideal, I think it’s too unfamiliar to a lot of them, I’ve always done way better with suburban raised girls.

I know slaying is different but almost all couples I know and see are bf% matched or close enough, even when there’s a big mismatch in face or height or pheno. In a relationship it would be almost impossible to work around a big difference in diet.

American football players would probably be the equivalent of British and Aussie rugby players, they can get great girls if they have the face for them. But usually the girls with the prettiest faces go for guys who play other sports or have a music or artsy niche.