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I've done some research lately and I've been surprised by what I found. It seems that Androgens play a huge role in the amount of collagen in the skin, and this could partially explain why hairloss drugs typically effect the skin in a negative manner.
This study added DHT to rat organs and found that it increased (or "restored") their previously nonexistent collagen while castrated. (They also tried estrogen but it made no difference)
academic.oup.com
More abstracts on Androgens and collagen:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
www.nature.com
This is why many people that use Finasteride and Minoxidil report dark circles and dry skin. Our skin is a huge signal for our internal health, and it seems it is also an important signaler for sexual potency, as Androgens play a huge role in sperm count and libido. Finasteride and Minoxidil are both 5-AR inhibitors and this could partially explain why people notice bad skin on them. However, everyone's body responds differently to Androgens and have varying amounts of Androgens in them so it's also possible to take Finasteride/minoxidil or another 5-AR inhibitor and see no noticeable difference to your collagen and even your libido. But unlikely, especially with prolonged usage.
One of the most commonly reported sides for Post Finasteride Syndrome (loss of DHT) is chronically dry skin, thin skin, and dark circles: https://www.pfsfoundation.org/about-pfs-post-finasteride-syndrome/ (I am aware that PFS isn't clinically recognized. Yet.)
Here's what this means for YOU:
If you haven't taken a 5-AR inhibitor or another drug that inhibits Androgens:
Increase your testosterone through any means possible. Testosterone is an androgen that converts itself into other extremely potent androgens such as DHT.
If you HAVE taken a 5-AR inhibiting drug such as Finasteride or Oral Minoxidil:
Talk with a doctor about measuring and treating low DHT. If your DHT is indeed low, they can give you treatment options such as Proviron (oral 50mg), Drostalone or Masterone (injectable steroid, cycle) and Androstanolone (injectable, or a cream that you rub on your forehead and shoulders.) These can also be found online, albeit sparsley, but will cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to be used regularly.
This is also suicidefuel for baldcels. Honestly, collagen > hair any day of the week. You can't fraud collagen. But you can fraud hair with transplants, hair systems, and other things. It is your decision.
This study added DHT to rat organs and found that it increased (or "restored") their previously nonexistent collagen while castrated. (They also tried estrogen but it made no difference)
Actions of Androgen and Estrogen on Collagen Levels in Male Accessory Sex Organs*
Investigations were initiated to elucidate the hormone dependence of collagen levels in male accessory sex organs. In rat ventral prostate (VP) and seminal
academic.oup.com
More abstracts on Androgens and collagen:
A role for the androgen receptor in collagen content of the skin - PubMed
Collagen, the major macromolecular component of skin, is responsible for maintaining the structural integrity of the tissue as well as for providing important functional characteristics, such as pliability and thickness. We have been studying the structure and regulation of collagen in mouse...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Action of androgen on fibroblast collagen synthesis: a receptor-dependent response. - Pediatric Research
Several groups are still investigating an "in vitro" biological response of androgen action. The purpose of this study was to determine whether dihydrotestosterone (DHT) influences the secretion of collagen by cultured foreskin fibroblasts raised from patients with normal or undetectable...
www.nature.com
This is why many people that use Finasteride and Minoxidil report dark circles and dry skin. Our skin is a huge signal for our internal health, and it seems it is also an important signaler for sexual potency, as Androgens play a huge role in sperm count and libido. Finasteride and Minoxidil are both 5-AR inhibitors and this could partially explain why people notice bad skin on them. However, everyone's body responds differently to Androgens and have varying amounts of Androgens in them so it's also possible to take Finasteride/minoxidil or another 5-AR inhibitor and see no noticeable difference to your collagen and even your libido. But unlikely, especially with prolonged usage.
One of the most commonly reported sides for Post Finasteride Syndrome (loss of DHT) is chronically dry skin, thin skin, and dark circles: https://www.pfsfoundation.org/about-pfs-post-finasteride-syndrome/ (I am aware that PFS isn't clinically recognized. Yet.)
Here's what this means for YOU:
If you haven't taken a 5-AR inhibitor or another drug that inhibits Androgens:
Increase your testosterone through any means possible. Testosterone is an androgen that converts itself into other extremely potent androgens such as DHT.
If you HAVE taken a 5-AR inhibiting drug such as Finasteride or Oral Minoxidil:
Talk with a doctor about measuring and treating low DHT. If your DHT is indeed low, they can give you treatment options such as Proviron (oral 50mg), Drostalone or Masterone (injectable steroid, cycle) and Androstanolone (injectable, or a cream that you rub on your forehead and shoulders.) These can also be found online, albeit sparsley, but will cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to be used regularly.
This is also suicidefuel for baldcels. Honestly, collagen > hair any day of the week. You can't fraud collagen. But you can fraud hair with transplants, hair systems, and other things. It is your decision.
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