THE DEVASTATING SCAPULA-SHOULDER PILL - THIS HAS DESTROYED MY LIFE ⚠

I wish I was 6"8 with huge shoulder width ngl. Bones mog muscle always. The amount of muscle you can build is dependent on the amount of bone you have anyway JFL
I have big wide bones, but I can't build muscle mass easily I need to eat too much =/ It's not that simple tbh, not without roids.
 
How bad or good is my frame?
 

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just get CLL

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Why so much negativity? You literally has the only negative things to say, but i've put so much effort into making the thread, photoshoping the pictures, and finding the information... Just ignore the thread and find a reason to call me out i guess
because effort doesn't matter if you're wrong?

are you a child jfl crying that someone corrected you
 
damn I wish I knew that the clavicle growth plates were still open until 25
I'd have been doing hercules holds and reeves shrugs in every gym session, too late now tho.
how would this have made a difference
 
Just stretch shoulders downwards.
 
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wtf is this
 
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This Yeti btw is from the Republic of Georgia, I don't know his name but you can look him up.


We are from the same country, and even though he mogs me hard, I still have very broad shoulders. I get comments on it sometimes and even girls would talk to me about it.
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Have you taken the Sakartvelopill yet?
 

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This Yeti btw is from the Republic of Georgia, I don't know his name but you can look him up.


We are from the same country, and even though he mogs me hard, I still have very broad shoulders. I get comments on it sometimes and even girls would talk to me about it.
🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪

Have you taken the Sakartvelopill yet?

wtf someone have this frame?
 
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So can I increase my frame as an 18 yo? Any gym exercises that can help me improve it even more?
 
I have this yet still virgin autist
 
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someone tell me my bideltoud so i dont rope pls
 
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Jfl frame 2

Adln6eXy o
 
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good study jfl tbh:
Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size
They are right. What is attractive isn't breast size, but hourglass figure.
 
I guess bideltoid width is the only measure where a small skull will look better, by giving the illusion of larger bideltoid width?
 
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Fuck I have subhuman V shaped clavicles instead of straight ones....
 
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This is life fuel to me
 
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I have very broad shoulders. I win
 
LET ME BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TELL YOU THAT FRAME IS IMPORTANT



IT'S almost AS EQUIVELENT AS THE HEIGHTPILL


"Actually, that’s unfair to suits. Women respond to broad shoulders far more powerfully than men respond to breasts, making suits the more powerful of the two. Do you know that lustful feeling well-cloven cleavage can instil in you? Well, broad shoulders give women that same feeling, except stronger (study)."






NOW ONCE I DREW YOUR ATTENTION, LET'S BEGIN




The traditional "Muh frame doesn't matter" is a BULLSHIT

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^^ Which Jimson has more sex - [ISPOILER]THE ONE ON THE RIGHT[/ISPOILER]



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^^ Which BBC is living more happier life = [ISPOILER]THE RIGHT ONE OF COURSE[/ISPOILER]



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^^ Which guy do you think is overall more successful in life - [ISPOILER]THE RIGHT FUCKING ONE[/ISPOILER]






It is very important for men to be tall, wide framed, and heavy (due to bone mass and muscle mass).


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Being a lightweighted twink will extremely reduce your General Fighting success, superior chads will be easily able to lift you up and slam you down to the ground





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But "muh hard work and dedication"...



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Chestbrahs Frame Looks like shit next to jeff's one, his clavicles have the width of his head, his shoulders are compressed on his ribcage, you can easily spot his below average Frame under all These muscles


Most People typically rely on that bro science that wide shoulders are simply caused by wide clavicles, which is half-way true,
But the important factor which makes their shoulders so Broad are their scapulas. which brings us to scapula - pill section.






SCAPULA - PILL

(Neither @Sergeant knows how to fix double spoiler problem, it's a xenforo issue)
Kim freire for example doesn't has extreme wide clavicles, but he has a enormous wide Scapula which extends well above his horizontal ribcage width
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The shape and the lateral projection of the Scapula is determined by your genetics, mostly it's determined by the androgen receptor exposure and their Density/sensitivity.

- The lateral projection of the glenoid cavity aka the neck is the most important part, if this part is laterally narrow along with a sloped Humerus Insertion then the shoulders will look like they are literally compressed on the ribcage

Although the "slopedness" is in 90% of cases more related to The clavicle shape, every chad has 1 Thing in common: Straight clavicles or at least relatively straight clavicles, it's not even the actual width of the clavicles but the straightness which is important. Thus brings us to clavicle insertions section.



CLAVICLE INSERTIONS (Angulation)
Straight clavicles determine how Broad/squarish and straight in General your shoulders will look

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Incels have usually horrible feminine short curved V shaped clavicles, this does not only makes the shoulders look sloped, it also results in a horizontal narrow chest Insertion, a chest muscle insertions which grows downward rather than laterally outwards.

One of the WORST incel traits you can imagine, a roundish horizontal narrow U shaped chest insertion

It's such a typical gymcel trait, it Looks totally un-dimorphic and unmasculine, like 2 Forward projecting sagging tits

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Compared to a godly chaddish horizontal wide square chest

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Lets imagine 2 guys with the same biacromial breadth, one with square and one with sloped shoulders, the one with the square shoulder will look optically and objectively wider after he gained the same amount of mass because his Deltoid projection goes straight sideways and not diagonally upwards like on a cripple

But if you have sloped shoulders, Increasing your Deltoid size will consequently increase the slopedness of your shoulders

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It just Looks ugly and silly, it's not only a incel trait, it's a total neotenous-feminine trait

A mature male Body is supposed to be straightly framed by the shoulders/arms

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FINAL CONCLUSION
The angulation of your shoulders/clavicle along with the length of your neck determine whetever you will be seen as a naturally unathletic Coping gymcel or as a natural athletic chad with a huge sex appeal

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THIS IS WHAT PRIME JB'S WANT!!!!. They dont care About your utterly roided/bloated and sloped 22 Inch bideltoid when chad Comes into the room with his genetically superior non gymcelled 25 Inch square-shoulder bideltoid with a biacromial breadth of 23 inches



DOES GYMECELING HELP ?
The answer is: YES, BUT only if you have relatively straight clavicles/squarish shoulders to begin with

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Zyzz, David Laid, Jon Skywalker etc. all These guys had relatively Broad and straight clavicles to begin with which why they looked so aesthetic after they gained several Pounds of muscle

Deluded normies Always use These 3 guys as a example that anyone can max his Frame simply by going to the gym, but almost no one Pays Attention to the fact that all These 3 guys already had a very impressive clavicular/shoulder structure to begin with which allowed them a straight lateral Deltoid projection





... AND REMEMBER

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Fucking brutal ngl

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Sloped shoulders are a giga failo tbh its almost as bad as being a manlet
 
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Is there a way to get more laterally projected scapula and how does a winged scapula play into this?
 
Richard ramired have v shape clavicles(no straight)
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can you explain why hes shoulder is not slopeif u saying was true?
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I might have missed something due to me being fuckin low attention spancel but is there any ways of improving frame or is it truly over?
 
Fortunately I have 20 inch bidelt at 16 but Im widepelviscel too
 
Makes me think about Arnold, he has very straight clavicles but often coined as having the more sloped shoulder look. Perhaps scapulae truly is the reason behind it.
By no means did arnold have a problem with his bone structure in terms of having a mass apeal attractive body so idk where I stand on this.
 
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at least i won at this one :feelshah:
 
It is very important for men to be tall, wide framed, and heavy (due to bone mass and muscle mass).

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Being a lightweighted twink will extremely reduce your General Fighting success, superior chads will be easily able to lift you up and slam you down to the ground
Who is that in the right image?
 
not to be weird but i discovered this pill when i had my trans mentally illness period, my shoulders are wide which made me panic cuz i wanna be female anyways
 
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bro chill out with the photoshop left looks fine, and right looks like hes a living american football gear, take it easy lul
 
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I have relatively straight clavicles and my frame ain't bad yet my shoulders still appear rather sloped. How can I fix this what muscles do I need to focus on?
 
Grant Gustin (The Flash) has a body transformation with the smallest frame that I have ever seen:

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Meanwhile, there is Henry Cavill:

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However, width is not that important to look like you lift while wearing clothes, because if you are extremely narrow, your muscular potential is still the same as a wider guy but for every small muscle insertion, you will have more thickness.
This means that the smallest your chest insertion is, the thickest it can be, and the same applies to all the other muscle groups in your body also.

So being wide is not an essential thing, unless you have a very specific idea in mind.

Saying that women prefer taller men is true, but saying that women prefer wider men is very inaccurate, you can only say that women prefer muscular men, and in that case, everybody can benefit from getting muscular.
 
Grant Gustin (The Flash) has a body transformation with the smallest frame that I have ever seen:

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Meanwhile, there is Henry Cavill:

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However, width is not that important to look like you lift while wearing clothes, because if you are extremely narrow, your muscular potential is still the same as a wider guy but for every small muscle insertion, you will have more thickness.
This means that the smallest your chest insertion is, the thickest it can be, and the same applies to all the other muscle groups in your body also.

So being wide is not an essential thing, unless you have a very specific idea in mind.

Saying that women prefer taller men is true, but saying that women prefer wider men is very inaccurate, you can only say that women prefer muscular men, and in that case, everybody can benefit from getting muscular.
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Frame and height are both cope. 6'4" doesn't make you any more attractive than 5'11". If a girl is giving you IOIs, it's because of your face.
 
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