The summary guide of: Reverse aging. Collagen. Lifestyle and ... big bonus

[Summer]

Nothing new, just a summary of the topic, highlights, important things and a point start for those interested. Also note: nothing beat a healthy lifestyle, take the supplements and collagen routine as an addition to your already good welfare

Lets start...

Reverse age​

• Collagen routine:
There are many good ones. Choose whatever is the best for your skin.
*An example:
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser for all skin types
: The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% - wait 20 minutes before applying the next product
: Super GHK Copper Cream or Serum - 0.3mg for not encounter sides (reverseskinaging.com)
: Josh Rosebrook Hydrating Accelerator
: The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.
: Paula’s Choice Resist Skin Restoring Moisturizer SPF 50
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser - for all skin types
: Retin-a (start with 0.025 - after finish 1 tube move to 0.5) - Wait 20 min.
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.

*Once/3 weeks:
-Derminator 2 + Infadolan (0.25 needles undereye / 1-1.5 forehead)

*Optional(recommended):
-Redlight Therapy - 20 minutes ED

• Lifestyle:
⚠no stres, smoking, drinking, drugs, too much sun⚠
》Wim Hof breathing
》Meditation
》3x/week sprint. 3x/week running 30min
》3x/week heavy lifting
》Stretching and keeping mobiltiy good is important.
》Fasting every sunday
》Low carbs diet
》Sleep 8h ℹsleep on plastic pillow and disinfect ED ℹ
》Sauna after workout, cold showers
》No Fap
■Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy UK(telomere increase)

• Supplements:
-Glycine 15g
-Berberine 500mg + l-Arginine + Methylcobalamine 🌤
-Pterosilbene 50mg (pre-workout)
-NMN 150mg (at old age)
-PQQ(fasting/HIIT) 🌤
-Fisetin
-Coleus Forskholli 500mg
-HGH 2-3iu
-Creatine 5g
-Astragalus
-Resveracel(stop when start nmn) 🌤
-Pycnogel 100mg
-D3(10.000iu),Mk4(200mcg),C(500mg),Zinc-Copper(40g-2g)
-Trace minerals: *iodine 5g *Selenium 100mcg
-Glucosamine Sulfate 3g
-Astaxanthin 12mg
-niacin 500mg - 3g
-B5 20g~3 luni
-Msm 1000mg/month for heavy metals accumulation
-B1 fat soluble~not ED
-Taurine
-Trimethylglycine/TGO

️When Fasting:
1g Berberine, 1xPQQ, 200mg DIM, 100mg StingRoot 🌤

️Cortisol supplements:
-Lion mane 10g 🌤
-sniff (smell) Rosemary out of the bottle
-ashwagandha 500mg
-L-Theanine

◇ Nutrition:
-Oats| Lentils 12h in water
-No Diary products
-No inflamatory foods: gluten,fast food etc.
-Omega 3&6 ratio 1g-4g
-Polyphenols: 3x cups macha, 3x apples
-kale 100g+
-blueberries ~ 100g+
-Red Wine

And... the bonus...
• Hairloss:
Once every 2 weeks:
1. shampoo hair and use scalp massager 15min. Pat
2. keep scalp wet. Apply a bit of rubbing alcohol on scalp
3. set the Dr Pen to 2.5mm and highest speed possible
4. insert sanitized 42Pin cartridge.
5. run it on your temples and forehead for hairline
6. keep your scalp and hair wet when you run the pen
7. carefully wash head with a cool and soft water stream
8. apply a tiny bit of hyaluronic acid on areas you pen
9. Wait for it to absorb.
10. Apply Peppermint oil.

Daily:
-0.5mg Finasteride (if needed)
-Peppermint oil + Castor oil + jojoba oil

Twice-Once a day:
-0.5ml Minoxidil
DO NOT USE MINOXIDIL ATLEAST 12 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

Once a week:
-Ketoconazole shampoo
DO NOT USE KETOCONAZOLE SHAMPOO 48 HOURS BEFORE AND 48 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

• If you start late(>40):
-Face lift, Botox
-Chemical Peeling
-Hair Transplant


Thanks for reading !

Bhai please help me polish this @Cope (didnt shared that u know what btw)
also hi @sytyl @GreenTea @brbbrah ^ ^

 

[Deleted member 6217]

anti aging with minoxidil jfl

 

[nonserviam]

just turn your house into cosmetic lab theory

 

[Deleted member 6400]

great thread bhai

 

[Summer]

anti aging with minoxidil jfl

Applied to the scalp only! It is essential for balding cels mate...

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Too much work. Hgh+test and don't eat/sleep like shit. That and epithalon possibly

 

[Deleted member 9699]

I'll never understand those threads. Do you expect me to take 30 fucking supplements a day? jfl

 

[Deleted member 5969]

just turn your house into cosmetic lab theory

And still end up looking old in the end jfl

 

[Deleted member 10652]

Just take a shower and pray to Allah bro.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Just buy adrechoronome

 

[Deleted member 4430]

 

[Summer]

I'll never understand those threads. Do you expect me to take 30 fucking supplements a day? jfl

As i said... if you have a good lifestyle (sleep,eat well, hiit etc.) it is enough... supplements are just an addition

 

[Summer]

And still end up looking old in the end jfl

No...
This guy is 56

 

[Deleted member 5969]

No...
This guy is 56
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Cherrypicking he obviously had godly genes and spends a bunch of money on surgery
It'll hit him like a truck one day

 

[Summer]

Cherrypicking he obviously had godly genes and spends a bunch of money on surgery
It'll hit him like a truck one day

Stop making excuses bro

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Stop making excuses bro

Bro you cant live forever or look young forever, one day you will die
Self worshippers go to Hell

 

[Summer]

Bro you cant live forever or look young forever, one day you will die
Self worshippers go to Hell

Yes but at least you will extent your prime some more... if you keep having an nihilist attiude towards life you might as well not do anything and wait for time to come...

 

[Summer]

I'll never understand those threads. Do you expect me to take 30 fucking supplements a day? jfl

PQQ for PGC1 alpha activation and mitochondrial biogenesis + free radical scavanging.
Pterostilbene/Resveratrol for SIRT1 activation.
Berberine for AMPK, SIRT1 and TBC1D1 activation
Exposure to extremities in pressure and temperature for hormetic adaptions (saunas) + to activate FOXO3
CoQ10, ALCAR, methylcobalamin for mitochondrial performance (included in PQQ energy NOW foods supplement)
Blueberries to increase cyclic AMP
Coleus Forskohlli to activate CREB (cyclic AMP response-element binding protein) and to activate PKA (protein kinase A). AKT being PKB (Protein Kinase B). Rapamycin shouldn't be used since caloric restriction, exercise and Berberine can inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK at the same time whilst Metformin alone cannot.

Exercising in an energy deficit is incredibly underrated. Hormetic upregulation is also incredibly misunderstood and underrated. Fasting for autophagic benefits is also very important.

 

[Mastermind]

Great thread, everything is perfect apart from the supplements section which is 80% cope

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Nothing new, just a summary of the topic, highlights, important things and a point start for those interested. Also note: nothing beat a healthy lifestyle, take the supplements and collagen routine as an addition to your already good welfare

Lets start...

Reverse age​

• Collagen routine:
There are many good ones. Choose whatever is the best for your skin.
*An example:
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser for all skin types
: The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% - wait 20 minutes before applying the next product
: Super GHK Copper Cream or Serum - 0.3mg for not encounter sides (reverseskinaging.com)
: Josh Rosebrook Hydrating Accelerator
: The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.
: Paula’s Choice Resist Skin Restoring Moisturizer SPF 50
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser - for all skin types
: Retin-a (start with 0.025 - after finish 1 tube move to 0.5) - Wait 20 min.
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.

*Once/3 weeks:
-Derminator 2 + Infadolan (0.25 needles undereye / 1-1.5 forehead)

*Optional(recommended):
-Redlight Therapy - 20 minutes ED

• Lifestyle:
⚠no stres, smoking, drinking, drugs, too much sun⚠
》Wim Hof breathing
》Meditation
》3x/week sprint. 3x/week running 30min
》3x/week heavy lifting
》Stretching and keeping mobiltiy good is important.
》Fasting every sunday
》Low carbs diet
》Sleep 8h ℹsleep on plastic pillow and disinfect ED ℹ
》Sauna after workout, cold showers
》No Fap
■Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy UK(telomere increase)

• Supplements:
-Glycine 15g
-Berberine 500mg + l-Arginine + Methylcobalamine 🌤
-Pterosilbene 50mg (pre-workout)
-NMN 150mg (at old age)
-PQQ(fasting/HIIT) 🌤
-Fisetin
-Coleus Forskholli 500mg
-HGH 2-3iu
-Creatine 5g
-Astragalus
-Resveracel(stop when start nmn) 🌤
-Pycnogel 100mg
-D3(10.000iu),Mk4(200mcg),C(500mg),Zinc-Copper(40g-2g)
-Trace minerals: *iodine 5g *Selenium 100mcg
-Glucosamine Sulfate 3g
-Astaxanthin 12mg
-niacin 500mg - 3g
-B5 20g~3 luni
-Msm 1000mg/month for heavy metals accumulation
-B1 fat soluble~not ED
-Taurine
-Trimethylglycine/TGO

️When Fasting:
1g Berberine, 1xPQQ, 200mg DIM, 100mg StingRoot 🌤

️Cortisol supplements:
-Lion mane 10g 🌤
-sniff (smell) Rosemary out of the bottle
-ashwagandha 500mg
-L-Theanine

◇ Nutrition:
-Oats| Lentils 12h in water
-No Diary products
-No inflamatory foods: gluten,fast food etc.
-Omega 3&6 ratio 1g-4g
-Polyphenols: 3x cups macha, 3x apples
-kale 100g+
-blueberries ~ 100g+
-Red Wine

And... the bonus...
• Hairloss:
Once every 2 weeks:
1. shampoo hair and use scalp massager 15min. Pat
2. keep scalp wet. Apply a bit of rubbing alcohol on scalp
3. set the Dr Pen to 2.5mm and highest speed possible
4. insert sanitized 42Pin cartridge.
5. run it on your temples and forehead for hairline
6. keep your scalp and hair wet when you run the pen
7. carefully wash head with a cool and soft water stream
8. apply a tiny bit of hyaluronic acid on areas you pen
9. Wait for it to absorb.
10. Apply Peppermint oil.

Daily:
-0.5mg Finasteride (if needed)
-Peppermint oil + Castor oil + jojoba oil

Twice-Once a day:
-0.5ml Minoxidil
DO NOT USE MINOXIDIL ATLEAST 12 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

Once a week:
-Ketoconazole shampoo
DO NOT USE KETOCONAZOLE SHAMPOO 48 HOURS BEFORE AND 48 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

• If you start late(>40):
-Face lift, Botox
-Chemical Peeling
-Hair Transplant


Thanks for reading !

Bhai please help me polish this @Cope (didnt shared that u know what btw)
also hi @sytyl @GreenTea @brbbrah ^ ^

great thread, but i never know what you got with your rosemary sniffing lol...

is that some sort of sexual thing?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Yes but at least you will extent your prime some more... if you keep having an nihilist attiude towards life you might as well not do anything and wait for time to come...

How am I being nihlist by saying preventing the inevitable is stupid
Save ur money and buy a house or something it makes more sense

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Bro you cant live forever or look young forever, one day you will die
Self worshippers go to Hell

And you're implying that we're not in a hell looking ugly and rejected by society, because of our looks?

 

[Summer]

great thread, but i never know what you got with your rosemary sniffing lol...

is that some sort of sexual thing?

No... Rosemary lowers cortisol when sniffed(smelled). Look it up

 

[Deleted member 5969]

And you're implying that we're not in a hell looking ugly and rejected by society, because of our looks?

Blackpill cope no one hates you, go outside

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Blackpill cope no one hates you, go outside

I do. In school everyone hated me, for example purely because of my looks.
irl it's hard to get a job, friends, gf.
I've ever been to 4 dates in my life. Met tens, maybe even close to hundred of women in my life and that has resulted in me being a kissless virgin. So? Is it my personality...? But of course...
Also I didn't take a shower.

 

[Deleted member 8583]

Nothing new, just a summary of the topic, highlights, important things and a point start for those interested. Also note: nothing beat a healthy lifestyle, take the supplements and collagen routine as an addition to your already good welfare

Lets start...

Reverse age​

• Collagen routine:
There are many good ones. Choose whatever is the best for your skin.
*An example:
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser for all skin types
: The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% - wait 20 minutes before applying the next product
: Super GHK Copper Cream or Serum - 0.3mg for not encounter sides (reverseskinaging.com)
: Josh Rosebrook Hydrating Accelerator
: The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.
: Paula’s Choice Resist Skin Restoring Moisturizer SPF 50
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser - for all skin types
: Retin-a (start with 0.025 - after finish 1 tube move to 0.5) - Wait 20 min.
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.

*Once/3 weeks:
-Derminator 2 + Infadolan (0.25 needles undereye / 1-1.5 forehead)

*Optional(recommended):
-Redlight Therapy - 20 minutes ED

• Lifestyle:
⚠no stres, smoking, drinking, drugs, too much sun⚠
》Wim Hof breathing
》Meditation
》3x/week sprint. 3x/week running 30min
》3x/week heavy lifting
》Stretching and keeping mobiltiy good is important.
》Fasting every sunday
》Low carbs diet
》Sleep 8h ℹsleep on plastic pillow and disinfect ED ℹ
》Sauna after workout, cold showers
》No Fap
■Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy UK(telomere increase)

• Supplements:
-Glycine 15g
-Berberine 500mg + l-Arginine + Methylcobalamine 🌤
-Pterosilbene 50mg (pre-workout)
-NMN 150mg (at old age)
-PQQ(fasting/HIIT) 🌤
-Fisetin
-Coleus Forskholli 500mg
-HGH 2-3iu
-Creatine 5g
-Astragalus
-Resveracel(stop when start nmn) 🌤
-Pycnogel 100mg
-D3(10.000iu),Mk4(200mcg),C(500mg),Zinc-Copper(40g-2g)
-Trace minerals: *iodine 5g *Selenium 100mcg
-Glucosamine Sulfate 3g
-Astaxanthin 12mg
-niacin 500mg - 3g
-B5 20g~3 luni
-Msm 1000mg/month for heavy metals accumulation
-B1 fat soluble~not ED
-Taurine
-Trimethylglycine/TGO

️When Fasting:
1g Berberine, 1xPQQ, 200mg DIM, 100mg StingRoot 🌤

️Cortisol supplements:
-Lion mane 10g 🌤
-sniff (smell) Rosemary out of the bottle
-ashwagandha 500mg
-L-Theanine

◇ Nutrition:
-Oats| Lentils 12h in water
-No Diary products
-No inflamatory foods: gluten,fast food etc.
-Omega 3&6 ratio 1g-4g
-Polyphenols: 3x cups macha, 3x apples
-kale 100g+
-blueberries ~ 100g+
-Red Wine

And... the bonus...
• Hairloss:
Once every 2 weeks:
1. shampoo hair and use scalp massager 15min. Pat
2. keep scalp wet. Apply a bit of rubbing alcohol on scalp
3. set the Dr Pen to 2.5mm and highest speed possible
4. insert sanitized 42Pin cartridge.
5. run it on your temples and forehead for hairline
6. keep your scalp and hair wet when you run the pen
7. carefully wash head with a cool and soft water stream
8. apply a tiny bit of hyaluronic acid on areas you pen
9. Wait for it to absorb.
10. Apply Peppermint oil.

Daily:
-0.5mg Finasteride (if needed)
-Peppermint oil + Castor oil + jojoba oil

Twice-Once a day:
-0.5ml Minoxidil
DO NOT USE MINOXIDIL ATLEAST 12 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

Once a week:
-Ketoconazole shampoo
DO NOT USE KETOCONAZOLE SHAMPOO 48 HOURS BEFORE AND 48 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN

• If you start late(>40):
-Face lift, Botox
-Chemical Peeling
-Hair Transplant


Thanks for reading !

Bhai please help me polish this @Cope (didnt shared that u know what btw)
also hi @sytyl @GreenTea @brbbrah ^ ^

ur a girl u don't need to looksmax

 

[Deleted member 5969]

I do. In school everyone hated me, for example purely because of my looks.
irl it's hard to get a job, friends, gf.
I've ever been to 4 dates in my life. Met tens, maybe even close to hundred of women in my life and that has resulted in me being a kissless virgin. So? Is it my personality...? But of course...
Also I didn't take a shower.

GO OUTSIDE NO ONE IS PLOTTING AGAINST YOU
YOU'RE PROBABLY AN AUTIST IF YOU CAN GET DATES ITS NOT UR LOOKS

 

[Deleted member 8583]

@her @Kingkellz @Sergeant ban @Summer it is egoys alt

 

[Deleted member 10536]

GO OUTSIDE NO ONE IS PLOTTING AGAINST YOU
YOU'RE PROBABLY AN AUTIST IF YOU CAN GET DATES ITS NOT UR LOOKS

Dude, I spend majority of my time outside. What do you want me to do? Not my looks? I only ever went on 4 dates in my entire life, with generally sub par girls too, ranging from 3 to 5 at best. This has got to be insanely pathetic numbers, and this is after years of improving myself. I'd get 0-3 matches in a month before...
No shit, nobody is plotting against me. Why would anyone plot something? I'm so completely irrelevant and invisible, nobody even knows I exist. How could anyone plot shit for somebody who is non-existent.
I can only get dates, because of my texting game, I think... When I meet them irl, their enthusiasm and smile is literally gone the very same second our eyes meet.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Dude, I spend majority of my time outside. What do you want me to do? Not my looks? I only ever went on 4 dates in my entire life, with generally sub par girls too, ranging from 3 to 5 at best. This has got to be insanely pathetic numbers, and this is after years of improving myself. I'd get 0-3 matches in a month before...
No shit, nobody is plotting against me. Why would anyone plot something? I'm so completely irrelevant and invisible, nobody even knows I exist. How could anyone plot shit for somebody who is non-existent.
I can only get dates, because of my texting game, I think... When I meet them irl, their enthusiasm and smile is literally gone the very same second our eyes meet.

I blame satan not God

 

[MentalistKebab]

GO OUTSIDE NO ONE IS PLOTTING AGAINST YOU
YOU'RE PROBABLY AN AUTIST IF YOU CAN GET DATES ITS NOT UR LOOKS

Jfl at retardation. Nigga if you believe you can get girls with your face rn, go get some instead rotting here with us.

Jfl at coming blackpill forums and cry "blackpill isnt true!".

 

[The Bleach Pill]

mirin high effort. For the collagen routine you can include topical resveratrol+ferulic acid and matrixyl 3000

 

[Chintuck22]

Reverse age​

• Collagen routine:
There are many good ones. Choose whatever is the best for your skin.
*An example:
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser for all skin types
: The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% - wait 20 minutes before applying the next product
: Super GHK Copper Cream or Serum - 0.3mg for not encounter sides (reverseskinaging.com)
: Josh Rosebrook Hydrating Accelerator
: The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.
: Paula’s Choice Resist Skin Restoring Moisturizer SPF 50
: La Roche Posay Toleriane Dermo Cleanser - for all skin types
: Retin-a (start with 0.025 - after finish 1 tube move to 0.5) - Wait 20 min.
: La Roche Posay Toleriane range. Choose the best one for your skin type.

• Supplements:
-Glycine 15g
-Berberine 500mg + l-Arginine + Methylcobalamine 🌤
-Pterosilbene 50mg (pre-workout)
-NMN 150mg (at old age)
-Fisetin
-Coleus Forskholli 500mg
-HGH 2-3iu
-Creatine 5g
-Astragalus
-Resveracel(stop when start nmn) 🌤
-Pycnogel 100mg
-D3(10.000iu),Mk4(200mcg),C(500mg),Zinc-Copper(40g-2g)
-Trace minerals: *iodine 5g *Selenium 100mcg
-Glucosamine Sulfate 3g
-Astaxanthin 12mg
-niacin 500mg - 3g
-B5 20g~3 luni
-Msm 1000mg/month for heavy metals accumulation
-B1 fat soluble~not ED
-Taurine
-Trimethylglycine/TGO

Tbh, i think that from a mechanistic standpoint this is everything we ever need for collagen-maxing (@Cope do you agree bro?). And you don't even have to take everything! Now if you answer the hallmarks of aging, you have full Anti-aging guide, which i think we are close to do.

- I am mirin astonishing high effort as usual ! I don't agree with some things such as autophagy (hell i am against it). But it's a good thread nonetheless, sweet @Summer brocel

 

[Cope]

Tbh, i think that from a mechanistic standpoint this is everything we ever need for collagen-maxing (@Cope do you agree bro?). And you don't even have to take everything! Now if you answer the hallmarks of aging, you have full Anti-aging guide, which i think we are close to do.

- I am mirin astonishing high effort as usual ! I don't agree with some things such as autophagy (hell i am against it). But it's a good thread nonetheless, sweet @Summer brocel

I wouldn't say that completely, there are a lot of essential skincare ingredients for collagen not mentioned:
- 5% Niacinamide, 20% Glycolic Acid, 8% Matrixyl 3000, 2% Matrixyl synthe'6, and 0.1% Madecassosides.
- Also making sure the sunscreen is SPF 50+ PA++++ and contains ingredients like Tinosorb S and Uvinul A Plus which is the best for UV protection.
- Also supplements like orthosilicic acid and EGCG but he did mention Pycnogenol (best supp btw)

But I did tell @Summer not to post publicly about the specific products, which I'm glad he did. He included Toleriane Dermo Cleanser which is good since it has a 5.5 pH which is most similar to the skin's natural pH level. I still think there is more to uncover when it comes to collagen and skincare in general, I'm doing research on it now and I'm learning more about it every day.

@Summer I am not completely opposed to that supplement list, but I think the focus should be supplements/drugs that relate toward activating SIRT1, are intermediates to NAD+, inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK, and specific antioxidants/anti-inflammatories. Unrelated, but I think NAC has a lot of promise for anti-aging and low dose Aspirin.

 

[damnit]

PQQ for PGC1 alpha activation and mitochondrial biogenesis + free radical scavanging.
Pterostilbene/Resveratrol for SIRT1 activation.
Berberine for AMPK, SIRT1 and TBC1D1 activation
Exposure to extremities in pressure and temperature for hormetic adaptions (saunas) + to activate FOXO3
CoQ10, ALCAR, methylcobalamin for mitochondrial performance (included in PQQ energy NOW foods supplement)
Blueberries to increase cyclic AMP
Coleus Forskohlli to activate CREB (cyclic AMP response-element binding protein) and to activate PKA (protein kinase A). AKT being PKB (Protein Kinase B). Rapamycin shouldn't be used since caloric restriction, exercise and Berberine can inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK at the same time whilst Metformin alone cannot.

Exercising in an energy deficit is incredibly underrated. Hormetic upregulation is also incredibly misunderstood and underrated. Fasting for autophagic benefits is also very important.

I already take metformin 500 mg , going to increase to 1000 mg with b12 suplementation. Also expetimenting with intermittent fasting, did 23/1 omad but too impractical, going for 20/4 , and possibly doing it with dry fasting, from (not really reliable sources) , it can speed up autophagy while regular intermittent fasting cannot do it 20/4.
Planning to water fast for 7 days every 3 month as well.

 

[gymislife]

@Cope have you taken Pycnogenol? what's ur skincare regime?

 

[gymislife]

I wouldn't say that completely, there are a lot of essential skincare ingredients for collagen not mentioned:
- 5% Niacinamide, 20% Glycolic Acid, 8% Matrixyl 3000, 2% Matrixyl synthe'6, and 0.1% Madecassosides.
- Also making sure the sunscreen is SPF 50+ PA++++ and contains ingredients like Tinosorb S and Uvinul A Plus which is the best for UV protection.
- Also supplements like orthosilicic acid and EGCG but he did mention Pycnogenol (best supp btw)

But I did tell @Summer not to post publicly about the specific products, which I'm glad he did. He included Toleriane Dermo Cleanser which is good since it has a 5.5 pH which is most similar to the skin's natural pH level. I still think there is more to uncover when it comes to collagen and skincare in general, I'm doing research on it now and I'm learning more about it every day.

@Summer I am not completely opposed to that supplement list, but I think the focus should be supplements/drugs that relate toward activating SIRT1, are intermediates to NAD+, inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK, and specific antioxidants/anti-inflammatories. Unrelated, but I think NAC has a lot of promise for anti-aging and low dose Aspirin.

Also do you think Matrixyl mogs GHK-cu?
And is the ordinary good?

https://theordinary.deciem.com/product/rdn-matrixyl-10pct-ha-30ml?ccvis=1

https://theordinary.deciem.com/product/rdn-buffet-copper-peptides-1pct-30ml

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

can you elaborate on the plastic pillow and disinfecting?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Tbh, i think that from a mechanistic standpoint this is everything we ever need for collagen-maxing (@Cope do you agree bro?). And you don't even have to take everything! Now if you answer the hallmarks of aging, you have full Anti-aging guide, which i think we are close to do.

- I am mirin astonishing high effort as usual ! I don't agree with some things such as autophagy (hell i am against it). But it's a good thread nonetheless, sweet @Summer brocel

What do you have against autophagy?
Btw whenever I talk about such stuff with normies, they think I'm insane(diet, longevity, health). They think I'm insane, only because I don't drink alcohol, ngl tbh desu

 

[Deleted member 1849]

PQQ for PGC1 alpha activation and mitochondrial biogenesis + free radical scavanging.
Pterostilbene/Resveratrol for SIRT1 activation.
Berberine for AMPK, SIRT1 and TBC1D1 activation
Exposure to extremities in pressure and temperature for hormetic adaptions (saunas) + to activate FOXO3
CoQ10, ALCAR, methylcobalamin for mitochondrial performance (included in PQQ energy NOW foods supplement)
Blueberries to increase cyclic AMP
Coleus Forskohlli to activate CREB (cyclic AMP response-element binding protein) and to activate PKA (protein kinase A). AKT being PKB (Protein Kinase B). Rapamycin shouldn't be used since caloric restriction, exercise and Berberine can inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK at the same time whilst Metformin alone cannot.

Exercising in an energy deficit is incredibly underrated. Hormetic upregulation is also incredibly misunderstood and underrated. Fasting for autophagic benefits is also very important.

PQQ is hardly studied. It could also activate negative pathways... who knows though.
Berberine inhibits B vitamins, so load up on those.
Being exposed to extreme temperatures can raise cortisol. Low carb + heavy exercise AND other hormetic stressors is way too much stress on the human body.

Don't believe everything you read. Do your own research. Don't copy and paste.

 

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No... Rosemary lowers cortisol when sniffed(smelled). Look it up

Rosemary sucks for T. Which you will want to keep high in a regimen like this. Enclomid might do.

 

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I wouldn't say that completely, there are a lot of essential skincare ingredients for collagen not mentioned:
- 5% Niacinamide, 20% Glycolic Acid, 8% Matrixyl 3000, 2% Matrixyl synthe'6, and 0.1% Madecassosides.
- Also making sure the sunscreen is SPF 50+ PA++++ and contains ingredients like Tinosorb S and Uvinul A Plus which is the best for UV protection.
- Also supplements like orthosilicic acid and EGCG but he did mention Pycnogenol (best supp btw)

But I did tell @Summer not to post publicly about the specific products, which I'm glad he did. He included Toleriane Dermo Cleanser which is good since it has a 5.5 pH which is most similar to the skin's natural pH level. I still think there is more to uncover when it comes to collagen and skincare in general, I'm doing research on it now and I'm learning more about it every day.

@Summer I am not completely opposed to that supplement list, but I think the focus should be supplements/drugs that relate toward activating SIRT1, are intermediates to NAD+, inhibit mTOR and activate AMPK, and specific antioxidants/anti-inflammatories. Unrelated, but I think NAC has a lot of promise for anti-aging and low dose Aspirin.

EGCG is terrible for testosterone. Never take it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...stenedione-stimulated testosterone production.

Also can't you agree on of the main hall marks of aging is low androgens and super high cortisol?

AMPK tears the body down. While mTOR builds it back up. BOTH are extremely important. If AMPK was the better pathway to be activated, then it would always be activated. Plus I feel like shit when AMPK activation.

There's a balance to anabolic/catabolic. This is one of the reasons I prefer IF. Grego Gallagher says it's the perfect balance to being in a catabolic/ anabolic state or AMPK/mTOR.

 

[Chintuck22]

What do you have against autophagy?
Btw whenever I talk about such stuff with normies, they think I'm insane(diet, longevity, health). They think I'm insane, only because I don't drink alcohol, ngl tbh desu

Autophagy is nothing more than eating your own body to make up for absent nutrient, you're better off by eating highly nutritious meal than going to autophagy.

- Don't restrict calories or fast, this will lower the activity of the mTOR/pi3k/ATK pathways as insulin is vital for the activation of these pathways, fasting and lowering caloric intake will also decrease both insulin and leptin within the body, leptin is the hormone that is released when you have eaten past the point of satiation, my findings suggest that leptin is a potent agonist to osteogenic genotypes, essentially it induces bone formation, remodeling, and mineral disposition, it also increases IGF-1 levels, which is what we want. I can't stress how much eating is necessary for bone remodeling. Correcting your diet is step one, following the diet that I have written above will guarantee that you're inducing a constant state of anabolism, insulin will be released when you consume food, your metabolism with increase, in turn producing t3 and t4, both these thyroid hormones will convert somatropin into IGF-1, IGF-1 and insulin will then stimulate the mTOR1-2/pi3k/ATK pathways, in turn inducing hyperplasia, cell proliferation, hypertrophy and increased level of protein synthesis. Basically through the activation of these pathways, your body will be in a constant state of anabolism.​

I would only fast to get rid of the bad gut bacteria, and that's the ONLY time i would ever fast. Autophagy is suicide, and it's only good for weightloss since your body is eating your own bodyfat, and muscles if you overdo it. Anyone who promotes this bs without deep understanding of it deserves to be executed.

 

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Autophagy is nothing more than eating your own body to make up for absent nutrient, you're better off by eating highly nutritious meal than going to autophagy.

- Don't restrict calories or fast, this will lower the activity of the mTOR/pi3k/ATK pathways as insulin is vital for the activation of these pathways, fasting and lowering caloric intake will also decrease both insulin and leptin within the body, leptin is the hormone that is released when you have eaten past the point of satiation, my findings suggest that leptin is a potent agonist to osteogenic genotypes, essentially it induces bone formation, remodeling, and mineral disposition, it also increases IGF-1 levels, which is what we want. I can't stress how much eating is necessary for bone remodeling. Correcting your diet is step one, following the diet that I have written above will guarantee that you're inducing a constant state of anabolism, insulin will be released when you consume food, your metabolism with increase, in turn producing t3 and t4, both these thyroid hormones will convert somatropin into IGF-1, IGF-1 and insulin will then stimulate the mTOR1-2/pi3k/ATK pathways, in turn inducing hyperplasia, cell proliferation, hypertrophy and increased level of protein synthesis. Basically through the activation of these pathways, your body will be in a constant state of anabolism.​

I would only fast to get rid of the bad gut bacteria, and that's the ONLY time i would ever fast. Autophagy is suicide, and it's only good for weightloss since your body is eating your own bodyfat, and muscles if you overdo it. Anyone who promotes this bs without deep understanding of it deserves to be executed.

There's a balance too being in a anabolic/catabolic state brah. Activating anabolic pathways like that will have a harmful effect on longevity. Lowering IGF-1 enhances longevity.

 

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Autophagy is nothing more than eating your own body to make up for absent nutrient, you're better off by eating highly nutritious meal than going to autophagy.

- Don't restrict calories or fast, this will lower the activity of the mTOR/pi3k/ATK pathways as insulin is vital for the activation of these pathways, fasting and lowering caloric intake will also decrease both insulin and leptin within the body, leptin is the hormone that is released when you have eaten past the point of satiation, my findings suggest that leptin is a potent agonist to osteogenic genotypes, essentially it induces bone formation, remodeling, and mineral disposition, it also increases IGF-1 levels, which is what we want. I can't stress how much eating is necessary for bone remodeling. Correcting your diet is step one, following the diet that I have written above will guarantee that you're inducing a constant state of anabolism, insulin will be released when you consume food, your metabolism with increase, in turn producing t3 and t4, both these thyroid hormones will convert somatropin into IGF-1, IGF-1 and insulin will then stimulate the mTOR1-2/pi3k/ATK pathways, in turn inducing hyperplasia, cell proliferation, hypertrophy and increased level of protein synthesis. Basically through the activation of these pathways, your body will be in a constant state of anabolism.​

I would only fast to get rid of the bad gut bacteria, and that's the ONLY time i would ever fast. Autophagy is suicide, and it's only good for weightloss since your body is eating your own bodyfat, and muscles if you overdo it. Anyone who promotes this bs without deep understanding of it deserves to be executed.

But isn't the point of autophagy to cannibalise your old cells, as that's what the body focuses on first? So you get rid of your old cells that aren't functioning properly and thus reducing the chance of canceroys grows/cells mutations, which is the only real reason we do die tbh, at this point. Besides roping, roping I think is much higher risk than anything else, but that's also another question entirely.
Most of the days I eat only once and always past satiation. Wouldn't that be good?
It just makes a lot of sense and is convenient. You wake up, go to work, get back home and do a proper meal. Tbh I really love it like this, as food becomes a source of joy. I eat a lot for a few hours straight.

 

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My anti-aging regimen kinda looks like this. Being in a calorie defecit too.

Intermittent Fasting with black coffee.
Healthy diet with much carbs.
Sauana.
Weight lifting. Not too much exercise. Want to keep cortisol low since doing IF.
Great sleep.
Red light therapy.
Using androgens such as= Androsterone, pregnenolone, DHEA etc.
Perfect skincare. @Cope skincare guide. (High IQ shit). Add microneedling sparingly.
Supps= NMN, maybe PQQ, pycnogenol, BioSil, Multivitamin, Niacinamide, Aspirin, Vitamin E.

It's not rocket science. You just have to stick to it.

 

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I do. In school everyone hated me, for example purely because of my looks.
irl it's hard to get a job, friends, gf.
I've ever been to 4 dates in my life. Met tens, maybe even close to hundred of women in my life and that has resulted in me being a kissless virgin. So? Is it my personality...? But of course...
Also I didn't take a shower.

@Intjcel are you a legit wizard?? ie. you are over 30?

 

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@Intjcel are you a legit wizard?? ie. you are over 30?

Soon

 

[Chintuck22]

But isn't the point of autophagy to cannibalise your old cells, as that's what the body focuses on first? So you get rid of your old cells that aren't functioning properly and thus reducing the chance of canceroys grows/cells mutations, which is the only real reason we do die tbh, at this point. Besides roping, roping I think is much higher risk than anything else, but that's also another question entirely.
Most of the days I eat only once and always past satiation. Wouldn't that be good?
It just makes a lot of sense and is convenient. You wake up, go to work, get back home and do a proper meal. Tbh I really love it like this, as food becomes a source of joy. I eat a lot for a few hours straight.

No, just avoid highly inflamatory diet and supplement anti-oxidants at that age. You don't have to fast.

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Soon

truly sorry to hear brother. I hope you have some good copes and wish you the best with everything else