i thought you couldn't buy RU, and wouldn't ketoconazole be good enough as a replacement ?. if i notice more recession i will probably increase the dose.
You can buy RU, I use it myself.
topical usually has alcohol which is what would cause the skin to age. as long as you don’t let it drip down your face, you should be fine
The eyelid thing is bullshit imo. Just use it yourshit, great effort. But I'll read it carefully, I ended up crying in the middle of this Jfleither I live extremely bloat or I acquire it uee, fuck
Is topical safe for eyebrows?( for eyes fat) Does topical also cause bloating?Good thread man, detailed explanation ngl
Yeah, and it doesn’t cause bloating if it doesn’t go systemic i think @Jonas2k7
It causes some bloating unfortunately. @chadisbeingmade can tell more about that.
It's going to go systematic no matter what you do, even topical to an extent will go systematic. All will bloat you.
What if some min gets on my orbital fat @Jonas2k7? Does min on hairline have any risk whatsoever to orbital fat? Thanks
100%. That's one of the mechanisms how Minoxidil works in the first place.
There is some anecdotal evidence that Minoxidil can cause "collagen-loss". But no, the Minoxidil on the hairline won't affect your periorbital fat.
Facial hair is a looksmin.
>Claims its bullshit
Yeah you are completely right to point it , i did some research and saw there is some truth to it because i was completely unaware so thanks you for making me aware. are eyebrow safe or nah? Especially low set like mine
Topical only gets absorbed like2%. How is that going to make a difference
2.5mg oral caused me minimal bloating but im lean and the gains I got weren't crazy. Defo not like the oral min transformations you see pics of. Hair got a bit thicker and body hair got slightly thicker but no body hair in new places.
why tf would you even take 20mg?
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Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
topical or oral?
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The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
maybe I’m just a retard and don’t apply properly
Read the other thread too, I liked the second one more personally.I haven’t read YET
But minoxidil has done fuck all for me 7 months on.
) by @menas
ur right abt the upper eyelid fat loss I feel like I actually have some UEE now whereas nefore I had legit none. Minoxidil is kinda wank Ibr yeah lemme read the othersRead the other thread too, I liked the second one more personally.
Also read da threads by @chadisbeingmade and (optional
@Zagro's was good too
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The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
topical or oral? thx
You read into long term use and when peaks are achieved? Im 7 months in wondering if these are max results or i might get some more.
this bhai used topical on his lashes not oralOral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
Topical. Oral is bs
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The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
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It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
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Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
joe biden
Nigga what are you doing use topical minoxidil. Oral cause heart disease and digestion problems.
Did you even read the comment you replied to? I said I no longer use it anymore due to undesirable side effects but nothing health related
results go away in balding as the people that use minox have pattern baldness and minox doesn’t stop shedding, brows and lashes don’t shed so you’ll be fine forever or at least a few yrs
Check the ingredients, if there aren't any special ones you can use it.
That's just how the compound works, hair growth as a "side effect" from minoxidil was noted already in the early stages of development.
There is some anecdotal evidence that it might cause bloating, even topically. Topical minoxidil obviously still goes systemic.
If new follicles develop certainly yes, maybe even less than a year. The question is if the trade-off of being bloated for a year is worth the possibility of maintaining denser eyelashes and eyebrows.
It does cause fat loss. I already replied to that question in the thread before, it takes less than 5 minutes reading all the replies.
Atleast a year, the length of the eyelashes will return to baseline after dropping the compound though. Only the density will improve permanently after prolonged exposure to minoxidil.
Growing a beard is a looksmin. Obviously the bloat will be less.
What about eyebrows will the length keep up? Is bimatropost a better option for "permanent" results?
It’s not a Looksmin if my beard is full and my mandible is weak lmao
clav lookalike
You can drink castor oil for eyebrow and eyelash growth? Thought it was only a topical thing
dutasteride 2.5, ru58841
The truth about ... - The new thread series, AMA
The truth about ... - Part 0 This thread series will cover compounds/concepts that are discussed daily on here. It's a crossover between @chadisbeingmade and me. Potentially other users too, lmk. The purpose is to shed light on the reality behind these compounds/concepts. The first...
Growing your eyelashes and eyebrows is one of the best and only true softmaxxes.
Because of that, many people choose compounds like Minoxidil to grow hairs in their eye area or even on the scalp.
This thread will reveal why you should be cautious with Minoxidil - And how it could actually harm your looks.
History
Minoxidil was developed for antihypertensive and vasodilative purposes.
View attachment 3682339
Though this use case was later dropped as even the developing scientists figured out that it isn't efficient at what it does.
It's the last resort when it comes to hypertension - Only being used when two agents and/or a diuretic aren't enough.
And not even monotherapy is a valid option. It has to be combined with a loop diuretic either way because of the sodium and potassium retention it causes.
Appeal in PSL-Spaces
The other use case beside hypertension is hair growth.
Unfortunately it's not the best option for stopping scalp hair loss as that is a mainly AR-mediated pathway.
That means it won't prevent any miniaturization of the hair follicle, @chadisbeingmade is going to make a thread covering the topic of 5ARIs.
The other use case is like I mentioned previously, growing the hairs in your eye area.
View attachment 3682266
It's an exaggerated example removing the hair completely obviously, but I hope you can see how important they are.
There are two ways you can grow them via Minoxidil: Topical and Oral.
Topical
Topical Minoxidil is pretty harsh on your eyes, that's why you should only apply it on your eyebrows.
Another thing is that Minoxidil can cause fat loss in your upper eyelid as Minoxidil stimulates factors like PGE2 (The active ingredient in Latisse).
Oral
Oral Minoxidil is very effective in growing your eyelashes, but more of that in the biology section.
[Brutal UEE right there, just look at the lashes duh
View attachment 3682288
Biology
The unfortunate truth is, if you are using Minoxidil you are going to retain a ton more water and be bloated.
This is primarely mediated by the activation of the Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone-System.
View attachment 3682292
I'll try to keep it short:
- Minoxidil vasodilates blood vessels
- Activation of RAAS
- Aldosterone increase
- Sodium, potassium and water retention
In short, this means your Aldosterone skyrockets making you retain a ton more sodium/potassium and consequently more water.
This means it's a big trade off, hair growth or bloat. What do you choose, no water retention or mogger eyelashes?
View attachment 3682392
Conclusion
The only possible solution to solve the bloat is using an aldosterone-antagonist.
View attachment 3682299
In theory using an aldosterone-antagonist like Eplerenone or Spironolactone should work, but even then there is quite some anecdotal evidence that this doesn't work.
TL;DR: There are only two viable options now:
- Topical Minoxidil on eyebrows, which also affects your lashes.
- Oral Minoxidil only in combination with an aldosterone-antagonist.
I hope you learned something new today.
Feel free to AMA.
@halloweed @menas @Zagro @Drugsmaxxer
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