Two weeks post jaw surgery

[GordonFreeman]

looking good bro. how much did Andreishev give you on your jaws?

7mm

 

[Patient A]

kys dont ever talk to me

 

[GordonFreeman]

Dude, the lower third looks fantastic, idk what you and these 2 people are smoking.
I know there are some bad results from jaw surgeries and expected to see one of them, but this definitely isn't. I'm literally jealous.

What do you mean by overdone? too projected? I disagree. Can't see the eyes, they might indeed look odd and recessed in comparison to lower third, but eh, it's better to have only them recessed than the entire face lol.

No complications like loss of sensation? If not, it sounds like a perfect surgery lmao, even considering the shit amount of money spent.

I love the mandible too, but it's the maxilla that makes everything look uncanny
That's what bothers me

Your jaw looks very good now, but yea, it's a common thing that the nose widens from any rotation and moving the lefort 1 area forward leaves the midface looking more recessed. You will probably need some kind of midface projection osteotomy/implant and maybe a rhino to get the full aesthetic benefits.

You should probably wait a bit longer before making an evaluation tho tbh.

Absolutely same thoughts
And this is how you get hooked on the look. Now I understand why people who mess with plastic surgery cannot stop themselves

Waiting a bit longer is my only cope now

 

[Chico Chicowski]

eyes changed?

 

[GordonFreeman]

Also how was recovery?

I'm so tired eating through a straw

You posted your pre-surgery side silhouette before. I saw it and now, this result looks amazing bro. Actually even better than the silhouette gif that you posted tbh.

I was relying on that silhouette too before the surgery, but turns out it's not as simple as it looks on the picture.
The picture does not show how eye area and the midface look together.
It's a whole different story when you see it in motion.

Was your jaw already that wide? Post before pics

It was wide before, but significantly less than it's now
I'll post the befores later

Proud of You OP. I also going to get that. How mucho did it cost?

$13k

 

[Over]

Well, I dunno whether I regret signing up for this surgery, or I'm just not used to the new face, but after all I don't like what I see in the mirror.
It just looks off. I resemble a fucking dog.
While the mandible kicks ass, the maxilla is overdone. I hope that it's just swelling that is not completely gone, and that eventually it'll deflate and I will look more harmonious.

IRL I've been told that I was better looking before two times by two different people

I threw away lots of money, but I don't look better(mb even worse). I just look different

Now I need to save up for a zygomatic implant. One needs a very strong under eye support and very well developed, forward grown zygomas, in order to look harmonious with jaws that big.
That's why I look strange now.
I have what appears to be well developed jaws and a truly recessed midface.

What side effects I notice
1) my es ratio improved. I dunno why exactly, it's either because I don't chew and my massesters just shrunk, or because of the soft tissues being stretched. My zygomatic arch pops out now.
2) the bloat has gone. I always had round face, even at Auschwitz prisoner tier bf %. Now I'm somewhat defined.
3) wide ass mandible. I asked the surgeon for the maximal diastasis of the jaw angles. I dunno what kind of cut he made doing bsso, but it worked. I have noticeably wider bigonial distance now. Like Jaime Lannister tier.
4) the nose got wider and flatter, sad but true.
5) seems like scleral show has increased. My eyes appear bigger now.

I'll post the befores later
I just wanna figure out if I really look that odd or it's just bdd kicking in

You need cheekbone implants now. Your midface seems flat and lateral zygo projection is weak.

 

[GordonFreeman]

Looks good, but will look better after the swelling + Don't listen to normies bro, they don't know anything regarding looksmaxxing.

Normies are the ones who we do it all for.
We all need their validation.
You're not getting surgeries to gain some internet points.
Irl rating is all that matters.
If a person looks at you and says you're handsome, then everything you did was worth it.
When you see a chad, you instantly feel it. You don't need to justify his looks like "ohh he has 2.0 fwhr, then he's good lookin". You just see and feel it.

 

[gaymidget]

Surgery never claimed to make you 100% a chad. Your jaw looks good tbh you other features or harmony aren't so good but you are not ugly. Just status max

 

[Deleted member 795]

Must see the before, but from this you dont look so good.
Idk what, but something is off, like it is too square..

 

[WillVisitGandy]

Normies are the ones who we do it all for.
We all need their validation.
You're not getting surgeries to gain some internet points.
Irl rating is all that matters.
If a person looks at you and says you're handsome, then everything you did was worth it.
When you see a chad, you instantly feel it. You don't need to justify his looks like "ohh he has 2.0 fwhr, then he's good lookin". You just see and feel it.

Of course bro. But everything is subconscious, and the entire looksmax forum who is obsessed by looks can tell you, that you look good. The only reason why some people told you that looked better before, is that they already you knew you.

 

[RazerGlazer]

can you post some before photos bro or please PM. @GordonFreeman

 

[Weed]

This is EXACTLY what I need. OP @GordonFreeman what's the cost? Where's your before pic?

 

[GordonFreeman]

forward maxilla without cheekbones look weird tbh

eyes changed?

Seem to be bigger

You need cheekbone implants now. Your midface seems flat and lateral zygo projection is weak.

Yep, same thoughts
Now I'm afraid that this is an infinite loop, when you change something, it looks odd, and then you need to change something else in order to look harmonious.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Chad side profile. Lose facial bloat so we can see the bone structure in the front. At the front it doesn't look great atm but that's probably swelling but holy shit the side mogs everyone here
Its fine bro if you keep adding surgeries to make harmony it will be fine. I think for cheekbones you need zso and cheekbones filler

Seem to be bigger

Yep, same thoughts
Now I'm afraid that this is an infinite loop, when you change something, it looks odd, and then you need to change something else in order to look harmonious.

 

[homesick]

Damn, chad side profile.
looking good bro, congrats

 

[Weed]

JFL two weeks? Can't be stressing about this shit when it takes months to de-bloat.

Here's a patient from the same surgeon:

10days after (your timeframe)
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"eww chipmunk he looked better before the surgery"

3 months after (what to expect)
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"wow you look great have you been mewing"

Your result has made me want this surgery 10x more, gonna get it in September and can't wait.

Feel free to send me before photos and the exact movements you had done.

How much will u pay?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Just a reminder

Here's the before profile

Our guy went from besement dweller/10 to pretty boy side profile. Can't wait for the swelling to do so we can see the front. Isn't lefort 1 known to reduce midface length appearecne?

Dude you look awesome!

 

[Romnel]

How much will u pay?

$8,000-10,000 for bimax+full chinwing but I'll save an extra $1,000 for travel etc.
Currently got $2,500 but I'll keep saving + I'm getting a student loan soon which I'm gonna use for the rest

 

[Weed]

$8,000-10,000 for bimax+full chinwing but I'll save an extra $1,000 for travel etc.
Currently got $2,500 but I'll keep saving + I'm getting a student loan soon which I'm gonna use for the rest

I see. So everyone spends approx. 10k on this ngl. I think it's time for me to ewhore and hopefully get it in a year or so lulz
Aren't you going to travel to that surgeon to St. P or u gonna choose a diff one?

 

[Romnel]

I see. So everyone spends approx. 10k on this ngl. I think it's time for me to ewhore and hopefully get it in a year or so lulz
Aren't you going to travel to that surgeon to St. P or u gonna choose a diff one?

Would be less without the chinwing, but yeah expensive stuff.
Imo just live at home and look for a normal job which pays well, ewhoring seems high effort for not much money. Maybe do it on the side but doesn't seem like a primary income source tbh.

And yeah Andrei all the way

 

[GordonFreeman]

Just a reminder

Here's the before profile

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Our guy went from besement dweller/10 to pretty boy side profile. Can't wait for the swelling to do so we can see the front. Isn't lefort 1 known to reduce midface length appearecne?

Dude you look awesome!

Honestly I didn't look that bad IRL.
Btw, even with that jaw I managed to anglefraud to get pictures like this

I really like my lower third now, but the problem is in the upper jaw and the midface.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Honestly I didn't look that bad IRL.
Btw, even with that jaw I managed to anglefraud to get pictures like this
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I really like my lower third now, but the problem is in the upper jaw and the midface.

It's becuase you aren't used to it. It looks amazing

 

[Deleted member 2854]

You’re 2 weeks out from surgery, that is literally nothing... Bimax can take months to recover from and the facial bloat will linger a long time. Wait at least 10 weeks before evaluating

by the way, did you have a downgraft of the maxilla aswell?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

@Lorsss @her

delete these prices asap. surgeons lurk here to see what other surgerons are offering.

 

[Slayerino]

@Lorsss @her

delete these prices asap. surgeons lurk here to see what other surgerons are offering.

and then what do they do?

 

[GordonFreeman]

You’re 2 weeks out from surgery, that is literally nothing... Bimax can take months to recover from and the facial bloat will linger a long time. Wait at least 10 weeks before evaluating

by the way, did you have a downgraft of the maxilla aswell?

I hope you're right

Yes, my maxilla is 4mm lower now

 

[Deleted member 2854]

I hope you're right

Yes, my maxilla is 4mm lower now

So you had a short face before. I’d be very interested to see your before pics, since a surgeon once recommended me 5-6mm downgraft and 5-6mm advancement. I thought about doing it since 2015 but still haven’t.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

and then what do they do?

match prices if theirs are too low.

 

[Weed]

Would be less without the chinwing, but yeah expensive stuff.
Imo just live at home and look for a normal job which pays well, ewhoring seems high effort for not much money. Maybe do it on the side but doesn't seem like a primary income source tbh.

And yeah Andrei all the way

Ewhoring is my primary source of income tho and I'm fine with it

 

[Phoenix997]

How are people this dumb your maxilla is gonna be swollen for 3 months at least. Lol complaining at 2 weeks.

 

[Romnel]

Ewhoring is my primary source of income tho and I'm fine with it

How much you making per week?
Idk I just highly doubt there's much money in it, if it works for you keep doing it I guess

 

[Slayerino]

match prices if theirs are too low.

That's good then. No?

 

[GordonFreeman]

So you had a short face before. I’d be very interested to see your before pics, since a surgeon once recommended me 5-6mm downgraft and 5-6mm advancement. I thought about doing it since 2015 but still haven’t.

This was my smile before and what I expected to get after the surgery
Expected changes

If you're surgeon recommends you up to 6mm of downgraft, then your smile gotta be really teethless? Why don't you fix it? Even downgraft alone will significantly improve your smile

How are people this dumb your maxilla is gonna be swollen for 3 months at least. Lol complaining at 2 weeks.

Yeah but the swelling has subsided almost everywhere, that's why I can't say if my maxillary region is still swollen, or it's gonna look like that my whole life

 

[Deleted member 3990]

No ogee after bimax is ogre

 

[GordonFreeman]

No ogee after bimax is ogre

How am I supposed to have an ogee curve with totally flat midface

 

[Weed]

How much you making per week?
Idk I just highly doubt there's much money in it, if it works for you keep doing it I guess

About 2.5k per month passively, could do 4k if I wasnt lazy

 

[improover]

I can't believe you haven't show an side comparison of before and after despite complaining so much that it got worse

 

[RazerGlazer]

How am I supposed to have an ogee curve with totally flat midface

Kinda bad you didnt think about your cheeks before surgery and also kinda bad that Andrei didnt mention nothing(or did he?) that you also need cheek implants since you are going forward with your jaws ofc your cheeks are going to look even more recessed. When I want to make the surgery I will make both in same time.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

That's good then. No?

I guess, I think there was another reason.

can I pm you about mse?

No ogee after bimax is ogre

Zygo implants with eppley for the win...

 

[Phoenix997]

This was my smile before and what I expected to get after the surgery
Expected changes

If you're surgeon recommends you up to 6mm of downgraft, then your smile gotta be really teethless? Why don't you fix it? Even downgraft alone will significantly improve your smile

Yeah but the swelling has subsided almost everywhere, that's why I can't say if my maxillary region is still swollen, or it's gonna look like that my whole life

Trust me brotha... 1) Your upper lip will be swollen for months and so will your lower jaw, the width may also reduce a bit it could be swelling which adds bulk to the jaw, same with chin,

2) Your upper lip looks great anyway. Literally have no idea what you’re seeing. You have a good curl to the philthrum. It’s not too far forward. Perfect position. Andrei knows what he’s doing bro. What specifically is your Complaint?

Must see the before, but from this you dont look so good.
Idk what, but something is off, like it is too square..

OP important to realize that a BSSO ALONE will make your mandible swell laterally and make it wider. With the extra cuts he made to give you more width, this will be exaggerated even moreso.

The swelling will go down and I expect an awesome final result. Your jaw will not be too square or boxy.

It’s hilarious to say he looks off at 2 weeks. He just had a tri-max plus additional jaw work.

 

[Dutcher]

7mm

Both jaws?
Why did you get the surgery?
Did you ask for anteface?

 

[Pinhead]

So you had a short face before. I’d be very interested to see your before pics, since a surgeon once recommended me 5-6mm downgraft and 5-6mm advancement. I thought about doing it since 2015 but still haven’t.

mate surgeons are so retarded

most surgeons recommend me slight cw (like 2-3mm) but one recommended 1cm lmfao i think you know the one i'm talking about

Very nice result so far @OP, should look even better in 1-3months

 

[Gosick]

somethings off, seems to good to be true

 

[GordonFreeman]

Both jaws?
Why did you get the surgery?
Did you ask for anteface?

Both
I needed my mandible to be longer.
I was 1.5psl points higher when jutted the jaw, so the bsso wasn't even a question.
The problem is, one cannot move his mandible forward without moving the maxilla as well.
I didn't ask for anteface

 

[Dutcher]

Both
I needed my mandible to be longer.
I was 1.5psl points higher when jutted the jaw, so the bsso wasn't even a question.
The problem is, one cannot move his mandible forward without moving the maxilla as well.
I didn't ask for anteface

So he moved both jaws 7 mm or the maxilla less?
Did he not do CCW? And as i understand you feel the maxilla was moved too much forward?
Will you say you have a chimp look now?

 

[Patient A]

I had a massive nosebleed one week post the surgery. Lost shit ton of blood, almost passed out. I even needed a blood transfusion.

Scary shit bro.

Loss of blood makes me pass out easy as fuck.

Bimax is terrifying but I’m still gonna do it or else I will just kill myself lololololololol

 

[Deleted member 2854]

If you're surgeon recommends you up to 6mm of downgraft, then your smile gotta be really teethless? Why don't you fix it? Even downgraft alone will significantly improve your smile

Because I don’t trust surgeons not to fuck it up. They are sociopaths. I don’t want to be left with lingering side effects I.e numbness or a face I’m not happy with. The risks of bimax are extremely high, unless you are seriously deformed to start with, which I am not.

 

[OverForMe]

good jaw i would have prefered it more wide on the upper angle tho

 

[Patient A]

The risks of bimax are extremely high, unless you are seriously deformed to start with, which I am not.

Indeed, bimax should not be taken lightly. It can heavily mentally and physically disrupt ones life.

I just hope that I don’t suffer permanent nerve damage.

I especially don’t want the type of nerve damage that is Literally constant pain.

gotta roll my dice one day tho

 

[GordonFreeman]

So he moved both jaws 7 mm or the maxilla less?

Both

Did he not do CCW

I didn't need it

And as i understand you feel the maxilla was moved too much forward?

Sort of

Will you say you have a chimp look now?

No, it's more like the eyes and the midface were left behind and that's why I don't feel comfortable

Scary shit bro.

Loss of blood makes me pass out easy as fuck.

Bimax is terrifying but I’m still gonna do it or else I will just kill myself lololololololol

Don't be afraid, it's not that bad, if everything goes without complications.

It certainly will affect your social life the first month, but if you're a basement dweller, the only pain in the ass will be eating through a straw and constantly rinsing your mouth.

I already had issues with bleeding, it's not related to this specific surgery