Africa's Geography

[hairyballscel]

Doubt they're "negroid" though.

Negroid = Outdated term with no scientific basis

Horn of Africans are largely indigenous to Africa in terms of culture, traditions and genetics

 

[Deleted member 6111]

jfl you still haven't adressed this, it proves there are North African populations with indigenous African ancestry

North African populations are considered genetically closer to Eurasians than to sub-Saharans. However, they display a considerably high mtDNA heterogeneity among them, namely in the frequencies of the U6, East African, and sub-Saharan haplogroups. In this study, we describe and compare the female gene pools of two neighboring Tunisian populations, Kesra (Berber) and Zriba (non-Berber), which have contrasting historical backgrounds. Both populations presented lower diversity values than those observed for other North African populations, and they were the only populations not showing significant negative Fu's F(S) values. Kesra displayed a much higher proportion of typical sub-Saharan haplotypes (49%, including 4.2% of M1 haplogroup) than Zriba (8%). With respect to U6 sequences, frequencies were low (2% in Kesra and 8% in Zriba), and all belonged to the subhaplogroup U6a. An analysis of these data in the context of North Africa reveals that the emerging picture is complex, because Zriba would match the profile of a Berber Moroccan population, whereas Kesra, which shows twice the frequency of sub-Saharan lineages normally observed in northern coastal populations, would match a western Saharan population except for the low U6 frequency.


the most common paternal haplogroup among Berbers are E lineages which make up, up to 100 percent of Y-chromosomes among some Berbers. These lineages came into existence in prehistoric North/East Africa,

The distribution of E-M81 chromosomes in Africa closely matches the present area of distribution of Berber-speaking populations on the continent, suggesting a close haplogroup–ethnic group parallelism.

These people could have carried, among others, the E3b and J lineages, after which the M81 mutation arose within North Africa and expanded along with the Neolithic population into an environment containing few humans

1) youre literally saying here that North Africans, the group youre so desperate to claim as negroes, are predominantly eurasian
2) youre claiming that some Berbers have african haplogroups, which im sure is true, but it has nothing to do with their overall dna/genetic makeup, you not knowing that demonstrates the fact you have no idea what youre talking about and dont understand genetics, and typifies the brainlet pseudoanthropology of afrocentrism
3) nobody cares about berbers, the people dominated by literal arabs. the reason you want to claim that North Africans are negroes is because Egypt actually had a civilisation which made major contributions to the world, and you want to claim them as black. everybody heres knows that Moroccans arent negroes, including yourself, as youve shown with your studies, and moroccans resent black africans just as much as anyone else, Ive lived there, but that doesnt really matter. what you actually want to do is to draw a strong genetic link between ancient Egyptians and Subsaharan Africa, to claim them as black Africans in order to save some face for the totally unproductive people below the sahara. well here it is, they were even less black than the visibly non black egyptians of today

Mummy DNA unravels ancient Egyptians’ ancestry - Nature

Genetic analysis reveals a close relationship with Middle Easterners, not central Africans.

www.nature.com

p.s.


"Im a fragile African and I have no idea what Im talking about"

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Negroid = Outdated term with no scientific basis

Horn of Africans are largely indigenous to Africa in terms of culture, traditions and genetics

ah yeah everyones really jealous of somalia. thats the best you can do if youre staking your claim to meaningful civilisational contributions on somalia it really is time to rope

 

[Deleted member 6111]

there are individual europeans and asians who have made more of a contribution to world civilisation than the entirety of subsaharan African throughout history

 

[Marsiere214]

i agree
somalia invented everything

 

[hairyballscel]

1) youre literally saying here that North Africans, the group youre so desperate to claim as negroes, are predominantly eurasian

1)Being genetically closer to a particular group doesn't mean you belong to that group, genetically, I am probably closer to Sardinians than I am Pygmies, does that make me Caucasian? No.
Not once did i say North Africans are negroes, I never even said they are mostly African, i posted that study to prove that North Africa and SSA are intertwined and not seperate places with no historical contact.

2) youre claiming that some Berbers have african haplogroups, which im sure is true, but it has nothing to do with their overall dna/genetic makeup, you not knowing that demonstrates the fact you have no idea what youre talking about and dont understand genetics, and typifies the brainlet pseudoanthropology of afrocentrism

Again, your putting words in my mouth, quote where i said North Africans are negroes

Egypt actually had a civilisation which made major contributions to the world, and you want to claim them as black. everybody heres knows that Moroccans arent negroes, including yourself, as youve shown with your studies, and moroccans resent black africans just as much as anyone else, Ive lived there, but that doesnt really matter. what you actually want to do is to draw a strong genetic link between ancient Egyptians and Subsaharan Africa, to claim them as black Africans in order to save some face for the totally unproductive people below the sahara. well here it is, they were even less black than the visibly non black egyptians of today

I have never denied the existence of Middle Eastern/Levantine ancestry in Ancient Egypt btw.... but

The study you're citing used late period Egyptians from the north, a region which saw a substantial influx of middle eastern people, not representative of the actual Egyptians, its a fact that Ancient Egyptian culture primarily started in southern Egypt

And the "sub saharan DNA" in that study is Yoruba Nigerian ancestry, the study used one West African tribe which isn't representative of a whole fucking continent

Also, nearly every haplogroup in the study was on the maternal side "Sex-biased sampling (mtDNA) cannot recover population demography of the whole country"

That shit study doesn't take into account Egyptian history in the slightest: The authors do not consider explanations based on historical narrative, although they present historical information. NE(Near Eastern/Middle Eastern) input in Ancient Egypt could also be explained by old mercantile relationships with Lower Egypt (e.g. Maadi-Buto complex ~4,000 BC), Egyptianized Asiatic rulers and migrants (e.g. Hyksos ~1,650 BC), NE prisoners of war (e.g. from Thutmose III’s military campaign in NE ~ 1,490 BC), from diplomatic marriages (e.g. Amenhotep III and Mitanni princess, Gilukhipa ~ 1,380 BC), etc.

Now, if you want to get into DNA of Ancient Egyptians who were actually representative of the people, here's something:

We resolve a longstanding question regarding the kinship of two high-status Egyptians from the 12th Dynasty, Nakht-Ankh and Khnum-Nakht.... Analysis of single nucleotide polymorphisms showed that both Nakht-Ankh and Khnum-Nakht belonged to mitochondrial haplotype M1a1
The SNP identities were consistent with mtDNA haplogroup M1a1 with 88.05–91.27% degree of confidence, thus confirming the African origins of the two individuals

-The kinship of two 12th Dynasty mummies revealed by ancient DNA sequencing



The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans
- Early Nile Valley Farmers from El Badari


A comparison with neighbouring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents an endogamous ruling or elite segment of the local population at Naqada, which is more closely related to populations in northern Nubia than to neighbouring populations in southern Egypt.
- Concordance of cranial and dental morphological traits and evidence for endogamy in ancient Egypt


Early southern predynastic Egyptian crania show tropical African affinities, displaying craniometric trends that differ notably from the coastal northern African pattern. The various craniofacial patterns discernible in northern Africa are attributable to the agents of microevolution and migration.

The predynastic remains from the south (Badari, early Nagada) have been noted to be broadly Negroid by several previous workers. Casual inspection of these remains from a morphological perspective confirms this.

The upper Nile Valley series show close affinities to one another and to tropical African series. Thus variation is also present in the Egyptian Nile Valley, as the northern pattern trend is distinguishable from the southern one. The Badari and Nagada I cranial patterns emerge as tropical African variants (with Kerma). Badari remains show little affinity to the mass of Maghreban crania
- Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa


"The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 (a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans"
- Variation in Ancient Egyptian Stature and Body Proportions


"Badarian occupies a position closest to the Teita, Gaboon, Nubian, and Nagada series by centroid values and territorial maps. The Nagada and the Kerma(nubian) series are so similar that they are barely distinguishable in the territorial maps; they subsume the first dynasty series in Abydos… The Badarian crania have a modal metric phenotype that is clearly “southern”; most classify into the Kerma (Nubian), Gaboon, and Kenyan groups… No Badarian cranium in any analysis classified into the European series"
- Keita 1990

 

[hairyballscel]

ah yeah everyones really jealous of somalia. thats the best you can do if youre staking your claim to meaningful civilisational contributions on somalia it really is time to rope

are u retarded? i haven't made a single mention about somalias achievements or whatever

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

Ah yes. Simplify the fate of an entire continent with diverse and complex history, more genetic diversity than anywhere else, and extremely varied climates and geography down to “they had bad geography so they couldnt do well” jfl.

 

[Deleted member 10488]

Good thread, also looks like africans are low T, because they had no conflicts, conflicts and war leads to advancement, look how theres zero wars in africa, while the middle east, asia, europe are fighiting 24/7 conquering and losing lands.

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

Good thread, also looks like africans are low T, because they had no conflicts, conflicts and war leads to advancement, look how theres zero wars in africa, while the middle east, asia, europe are fighiting 24/7 conquering and losing lands.

Most africans have higher testosterone than any europeans or eurasian or american populations. Africa is also constantly caught up in countless wars at just about any time, and they still to this day have wars all across the continent. They have more physical conflict and wars than just about anywhere else in the modern world, and they have had wars forever, just like the rest of human populations

 

[hairyballscel]

Africa is also constantly caught up in countless wars at just about any time, and they still to this day have wars all across the continent.

jfl i think he was being sarcastic

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

@hairyballscel essays me ngl

 

[hairyballscel]

@hairyballscel essays me ngl

SFces got me like this tbh

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

SFces got me like this tbh

did you research all this yourself or do you get ideas from somewhere else?

 

[hairyballscel]

did you research all this yourself or do you get ideas from somewhere else?

yhh i researched pretty much all of it myself, all of these ideas are from books, videos, papers etc...

there are some decent blogs/forums aswell that help

 

[Jamal2222]

reminder that people evolve based on geography and environment so shit geography = shit people. Explains a lot. Africans never had to invent To survive in cold climate and to sustain agriculture, and never had large sprawling cities due to Africa being a jungle/savvanah.

Copeee. Trying to attribute intelligence to climate is just insane. In Africa it was just as hard to survive, as it was for proto-Europeans.

 

[goat2x]

Architecture isn't the only marker of civilisation, and the pics i posted aren't even a tenth of Africa

Ignore the fact that one of the world's oldest known archeoastronomical devices is found in Sudan, farming was invented by Africans and Middle Easterners, so was Pastoralism/ domestication of cattle, Africans were the first to organise fishing expeditions, Africans were the first to engage in mining 43,000 years ago. Africans pioneered basic arithmetic 25,000 years ago. The oldest iron working site in the world is in Congo, JFL at the Moors who were West Africans and Berbers heavily influenced Europes sciecne and architecture, the Ethiopic vocalised script influenced the scripts of Armenia and Georgia,

“Assistant Professor of Anthropology Peter Schmidt and Professor of Engineering Donald H. Avery have found as long as 2,000 years ago Africans living on the western shores of Lake Victoria had produced carbon steel in preheated forced draft furnaces, a method that was technologically more sophisticated than any developed in Europe until the mid-nineteenth century.”

A slave named Onesimus explained the inoculation procedure of smallpox to Cotton Mather during the 18th century; he reported to have gotten the knowledge from Africa

Chemical analysis of the bones of ancient Sudanese Nubians who lived nearly 2000 years ago shows they were ingesting the antibiotic tetracycline on a regular basis,

The Persian prophet Mani regarded Axum as one of the four great powers of the world in his time, the others being Persia, Rome and China.

Timbuktu has literally produced over 700,000 manuscripts which includes writings of the heliocentric view of the solar system, astronomical events, algorithms, dangers of tobacco smoking, procedures to remove cataracts, algebra, geometry, and trigonometry

This is just the tip of the iceberg

did you research all this yourself or do you get ideas from somewhere else?

wewazkangzcope.com

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Copeee. Trying to attribute intelligence to climate is just insane. In Africa it was just as hard to survive, as it was for proto-Europeans.

I’m attributing it to enviroment + climate
never said it wasnt hard to survive, in fact I agree
Africans weren’t able to sustain agricultural communities and very large cities due to their jungle environment, also never had to develop tools of transportation such as carriages due to absence of rideable animals and forests

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Copeee. Trying to attribute intelligence to climate is just insane. In Africa it was just as hard to survive, as it was for proto-Europeans.

I said never had to invent to survive in cold climate. Surviving in a hot climate is hard but it doesn’t need as much invention As surviving in a cold one

 

[hairyballscel]

wewazkangzcope.com

white fragility tbh !!!

 

[goat2x]

white fragility tbh !!!

you are mine

 

[Jamal2222]

im talking about sub saharan africans retard, not north africans. Theyre different races.
Literally none of these photos were built and architectured by actual black people, instead being created by arab/med North Africans.

Coppeee, mansa musa was a west african. He led the construction of Timbuktu. Built buy blacks. Stop spreading misinformation.

 

[hairyballscel]

Africans weren’t able to sustain agricultural communities and very large cities due to their jungle environment

lmao what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Deleted member 6892]

That was literally in 14th century, by that time entirety of Europe was full of cities
construction of one city doesn’t prove shit. Funny thing is, empire of Mali never reached even Celtic level of agricultural development.

Coppeee, mansa musa was a west african. He led the construction of Timbuktu. Built buy blacks. Stop spreading misinformation.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

lmao what the fuck are you talking about?

Fucking retard I’m explaining why Central Africa didn’t have a large number cities Compared to Europe, only places in Africa that had cities were coasts and deserts

 

[hairyballscel]

That was literally in 14th century, by that time entirety of Europe was full of cities
construction of one city doesn’t prove shit. Funny thing is, empire of Mali never reached even Celtic level of agricultural development.

In 1691, the Portuguese Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon ; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

 

[Jamal2222]

I said never had to invent to survive in cold climate. Surviving in a hot climate is hard but it doesn’t need as much invention As surviving in a cold one

Your argument is false. The climate and georgraphy of Europe is easier to survive than of Africa. Here are three reasons:
1. There are way more predators in Africa, this posed a threat to Homo Sapien.
2. Africa’s climate is less consistent with random droughts and earthquakes. Wayy more than Europe. So many different types of subclimates in africa. (Desert,tropic,high altitude,swamp)
3. Why do you think some Homo Sapiens left Africa to the different continents 100,000years ago they left because the clinate was so extreme some couldn’t survive it.

You’re trying to claim colder climate=need for invention. This is false.
the African lanscape requires double the practical intelligence to survive in, than in Europe. Africans had to invent a multitude of ways to survive and reproduce successfully.
Europeans were lucky to become the superpower of the world. They stole their gunpowder knowledge from China. If you look at history they basically took all their “accomplishments” like writing on paper from China. Europeans were extremely blessed to have to optimal climate that required barely any intervention to survive. It was like tutorial mode for early Europeans

 

[goat2x]

Dyorotic after bathing in dhtgel

@Good_Little_Goy

 

[hairyballscel]

Your argument is false. The climate and georgraphy of Europe is easier to survive than of Africa. Here are three reasons:
1. There are way more predators in Africa, this posed a threat to Homo Sapien.
2. Africa’s climate is less consistent with random droughts and earthquakes. Wayy more than Europe. So many different types of subclimates in africa. (Desert,tropic,high altitude,swamp)
3. Why do you think some Homo Sapiens left Africa to the different continents 100,000years ago they left because the clinate was so extreme some couldn’t survive it.

You’re trying to claim colder climate=need for invention. This is false.
the African lanscape requires double the practical intelligence to survive in, than in Europe.

These guys think Africa is a paradise or some shit, with food just falling from trees into our laps lmao

 

[Deleted member 6892]

In 1691, the Portuguese Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon ; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

How does a city that got unusually rich due to trade with Europeans prove absolutely anything lol? That was in 17th century too, it was a comparatively little city before its trade with Europeans. I’m not even mentioning The fact that British were able to steam roll and conquer the city easily cuz the walls were literally built out of fucking mud

Your argument is false. The climate and georgraphy of Europe is easier to survive than of Africa. Here are three reasons:
1. There are way more predators in Africa, this posed a threat to Homo Sapien.
2. Africa’s climate is less consistent with random droughts and earthquakes. Wayy more than Europe. So many different types of subclimates in africa. (Desert,tropic,high altitude,swamp)
3. Why do you think some Homo Sapiens left Africa to the different continents 100,000years ago they left because the clinate was so extreme some couldn’t survive it.

You’re trying to claim colder climate=need for invention. This is false.
the African lanscape requires double the practical intelligence in, than in Europe.

Invention =/= practical intelligence. In fact blacks might actually have better developed intelligence in the way of instinct and primitive survivalist thinking. There was less potential to invent in Africa, though, due to unsustainabity of cities and agriculture until late Middle Ages when they started trading with Europe (how Mansa must made most of his wealth actually).

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

These guys think Africa is a paradise or some shit, with food just falling from trees into our laps lmao

 

[goat2x]

View attachment 786585

In another dimension where blakks run society

 

[Jamal2222]

Invention =/= practical intelligence. In fact blacks might actually have better developed intelligence in the way of instinct and primitive survivalist thinking. There was less potential to invent in Africa, though, due to unsustainabity of cities and agriculture until late Middle Ages when they started trading with Europe (how Mansa must made most of his wealth actually).

Musa was was sitting on weath haha, Europe didn’t make him wealthy are you crazy. Right under the empire of Mali were large gold reserves. And gold was more valuable back then. Mining gold made mansa musa wealthy.

Second, I think you fail to understand how recent this “society” is. Not long enough to cause a large genetic difference in humans. Also, there are many forms of intelligence. Most important forms of intelligence are (emotional, practical, creative) you need emotional intelligence to lead, practical intelligence to use logic successfully, and creative intelligence to develop innovation. Throughout this post I find zero there’s evidence of substinence that Africans are lacking of any of these forms of intelligence.

 

[hairyballscel]

How does a city that got unusually rich due to trade with Europeans prove absolutely anything lol?

im conviced you're retarded, you keep on talking shit.

Mansa Musa didn't make Mali rich, Mali was already extremely wealthy before he rose to power due to salt and gold production and the heavy tax on all goods that went through timbuktu

Can you prove mansu musa became rich through trading with Europeans? No you can't, he traded nearly exclusively with North Africans

it was a comparatively little city before its trade with Europeans.

Bruh please stop

I’m not even mentioning The fact that British were able to steam roll and conquer the city easily cuz the walls were literally built out of fucking mud

Again, more bullshit
It was the french that colonised Mali, not the British
And there were regions which put up a decent resistance to colonisers
The walls were often built out of mud due to a lack of other materials, yet they still prevailed

 

[hairyballscel]

Musa was was sitting on weath haha, Europe didn’t make him wealthy are you crazy. Right under the empire of Mali were large gold reserves. And gold was more valuable back then. Mining gold made mansa musa wealthy.

he's making shit up at this point jfl

 

[Jamal2222]

@ItisOver

From reading through your post again it’s like you’re suggesting some races are superior. The different races are hardly removed from each other. Not enough to even be classified as “races” for that matter. Literally every human on earth shares near identical DNA. I’m not going to waste time pointing out all the mistakes in this post.

 

[Deleted member 9288]

Neanderthals had estimated avg IQ of 120. They were just fewer than homo sapiens.

wheres the study that says neanderthals have 120 IQ JFL

 

[Deleted member 9090]

This whole thread can be summed up to this: it's literally physically impossible that africa developed even anything because of their IQ. And as we know IQ is 80-90% genetically determined. There is literaly no point discussing some retarded % DNA in some groups to prove that Egypt wasn't built by caucasions, because any other group than them wouldn't have been able to. (Except asians but they didn't live in Egypt)

 

[Deleted member 9090]

@ItisOver View attachment 786641
From reading through your post again it’s like you’re suggesting some races are superior. The different races are hardly removed from each other. Not enough to even be classified as “races” for that matter. Literally every human on earth shares near identical DNA. I’m not going to waste time pointing out all the mistakes in this post.

What? There is more difference between a European and African than between some literal different species of animals. What are you trying to say?

 

[Deleted member 9288]

This whole thread can be summed up to this: it's literally physically impossible that africa developed even anything because of their IQ. And as we know IQ is 80-90% genetically determined. There is literaly no point discussing some retarded % DNA in some groups to prove that Egypt wasn't built by caucasions, because any other group than them wouldn't have been able to. (Except asians but they didn't live in Egypt)

what????

 

[Deleted member 9090]

Your argument is false. The climate and georgraphy of Europe is easier to survive than of Africa. Here are three reasons:
1. There are way more predators in Africa, this posed a threat to Homo Sapien.
2. Africa’s climate is less consistent with random droughts and earthquakes. Wayy more than Europe. So many different types of subclimates in africa. (Desert,tropic,high altitude,swamp)
3. Why do you think some Homo Sapiens left Africa to the different continents 100,000years ago they left because the clinate was so extreme some couldn’t survive it.

You’re trying to claim colder climate=need for invention. This is false.
the African lanscape requires double the practical intelligence to survive in, than in Europe. Africans had to invent a multitude of ways to survive and reproduce successfully.
Europeans were lucky to become the superpower of the world. They stole their gunpowder knowledge from China. If you look at history they basically took all their “accomplishments” like writing on paper from China. Europeans were extremely blessed to have to optimal climate that required barely any intervention to survive. It was like tutorial mode for early Europeans

This is cope as well, because 95% of all inventions on the planet are from europeans, or from european descent. Also this ''gunpowder'' argument all the time, yeah gun powder was invented by the chinese but they never did anything with it. Europeans developed the guns for it (which is arguably a much much harder thing to do).

And yes Africa is easier to survive in then europe.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

what????

You don't understand? Im not surprised

 

[Deleted member 9288]

You don't understand? Im not surprised

What the fuck are you even talking about. Have you not read the thread?

 

[TsarTsar444]

this thread is cope tbh, Europe dominated Africa so useless discussions, Africa is a shithole and is being dominated by China now

 

[Deleted member 6111]

1)Being genetically closer to a particular group doesn't mean you belong to that group, genetically, I am probably closer to Sardinians than I am Pygmies, does that make me Caucasian? No.
Not once did i say North Africans are negroes, I never even said they are mostly African, i posted that study to prove that North Africa and SSA are intertwined and not seperate places with no historical contact.

Again, your putting words in my mouth, quote where i said North Africans are negroes

I have never denied the existence of Middle Eastern/Levantine ancestry in Ancient Egypt btw.... but

The study you're citing used late period Egyptians from the north, a region which saw a substantial influx of middle eastern people, not representative of the actual Egyptians, its a fact that Ancient Egyptian culture primarily started in southern Egypt

And the "sub saharan DNA" in that study is Yoruba Nigerian ancestry, the study used one West African tribe which isn't representative of a whole fucking continent

Also, nearly every haplogroup in the study was on the maternal side "Sex-biased sampling (mtDNA) cannot recover population demography of the whole country"

That shit study doesn't take into account Egyptian history in the slightest: The authors do not consider explanations based on historical narrative, although they present historical information. NE(Near Eastern/Middle Eastern) input in Ancient Egypt could also be explained by old mercantile relationships with Lower Egypt (e.g. Maadi-Buto complex ~4,000 BC), Egyptianized Asiatic rulers and migrants (e.g. Hyksos ~1,650 BC), NE prisoners of war (e.g. from Thutmose III’s military campaign in NE ~ 1,490 BC), from diplomatic marriages (e.g. Amenhotep III and Mitanni princess, Gilukhipa ~ 1,380 BC), etc.

Now, if you want to get into DNA of Ancient Egyptians who were actually representative of the people, here's something:
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We resolve a longstanding question regarding the kinship of two high-status Egyptians from the 12th Dynasty, Nakht-Ankh and Khnum-Nakht.... Analysis of single nucleotide polymorphisms showed that both Nakht-Ankh and Khnum-Nakht belonged to mitochondrial haplotype M1a1
The SNP identities were consistent with mtDNA haplogroup M1a1 with 88.05–91.27% degree of confidence, thus confirming the African origins of the two individuals

-The kinship of two 12th Dynasty mummies revealed by ancient DNA sequencing



The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans
- Early Nile Valley Farmers from El Badari


A comparison with neighbouring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents an endogamous ruling or elite segment of the local population at Naqada, which is more closely related to populations in northern Nubia than to neighbouring populations in southern Egypt.
- Concordance of cranial and dental morphological traits and evidence for endogamy in ancient Egypt


Early southern predynastic Egyptian crania show tropical African affinities, displaying craniometric trends that differ notably from the coastal northern African pattern. The various craniofacial patterns discernible in northern Africa are attributable to the agents of microevolution and migration.

The predynastic remains from the south (Badari, early Nagada) have been noted to be broadly Negroid by several previous workers. Casual inspection of these remains from a morphological perspective confirms this.

The upper Nile Valley series show close affinities to one another and to tropical African series. Thus variation is also present in the Egyptian Nile Valley, as the northern pattern trend is distinguishable from the southern one. The Badari and Nagada I cranial patterns emerge as tropical African variants (with Kerma). Badari remains show little affinity to the mass of Maghreban crania
- Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa


"The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 (a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans"
- Variation in Ancient Egyptian Stature and Body Proportions


"Badarian occupies a position closest to the Teita, Gaboon, Nubian, and Nagada series by centroid values and territorial maps. The Nagada and the Kerma(nubian) series are so similar that they are barely distinguishable in the territorial maps; they subsume the first dynasty series in Abydos… The Badarian crania have a modal metric phenotype that is clearly “southern”; most classify into the Kerma (Nubian), Gaboon, and Kenyan groups… No Badarian cranium in any analysis classified into the European series"
- Keita 1990

I cant believe Im still conversing with somebody who bases their understanding of genetics on haplogroups... tutankhamun was R1b1a2, it doesnt make him a fucking anglo...

extremely convenient that the 1 Egyptian group youre focussing on a) dont seem to have any autosomal DNA data at all and b) represents the most primitive stage of Egyptian culture, whereas the study I pointed to covers the new kingdom golden age...

If you're recognising that Egyptians arent black africans then I dont know why youre still arguing. the only african culture which stands on a par with other world renowned civilisations wasnt black... I dont need to claim that Egyptians were "European", because Europeans have actually contributed vast amounts to world civilisation themselves. black africans havent, which is why you fraud autistic posts like this one with misleading or irrelevant information.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

are u retarded? i haven't made a single mention about somalias achievements or whatever

yet youre desperate to claim the horn of africa... obviously the horn of africa is black. i would be curious to know where youre from though...

 

[jewelsandtools]

What? There is more difference between a European and African than between some literal different species of animals. What are you trying to say?

If a Euro and African can breed and create a healthy child when a dog and a cat can't then they are both the same species. Low grade SFcel troll

 

[Selfahate]

Rodanasia was the best society in Africa

 

[Jamal2222]

This is cope as well, because 95% of all inventions on the planet are from europeans, or from european descent. Also this ''gunpowder'' argument all the time, yeah gun powder was invented by the chinese but they never did anything with it. Europeans developed the guns for it (which is arguably a much much harder thing to do).

And yes Africa is easier to survive in then europe.

“Africa is easier to survive the Europe”.

no this is just wrong. Stop talking about things you don’t understand. The most fit humans live in Africa for a reason. I’d want to see you Europeans go to West Africa without sunscreen , and see how long you last. Its not even up for debate about which continent is tougher to survive in. Everyone here knows it’s Africa.
The Chinese pioneered the whole firearm industry.

 

[6’1cel]

“African is easier to survive the Europe”.

no this is just wrong. Stop talking about things you don’t understand.
The Chinese pioneered the whole firearm industry.
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mentally ill if you think this -

is harder to survive than this -

JFL