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This is pretty funny, but they're right. This is theory crafting based on anecdotal evidence.
Someone actually has to try this out on an full scale experimental level to vindicate the information.

To do that it would be pretty straight forward.

  • buy a chastity cage about as large as your flaccid penis

  • make sure all your androgens are recovered, as mentioned early in this thread, and stay recovered during the duration of this experiment

  • watch porn, the chastity cage locks your penis in the size of your flaccid penis

  • maintain this 'non-erection' erection for ~10 minutes or something similar

  • stop watching porn and de-erect so you are flaccid,

  • remove cage till you do this again every ~7(?) days

  • expel semen from prostate

  • do the high hgh exercise regimen I recommended or 24 hour fasting regimen, or both

  • do this for ~6 months

  • measure

  • if the cage gets tighter on your flaccid penis during the 6 month period, then obviously this is working for you, but you also need to get a bigger cage for this 'restriction exercise'

Regarding to the topic of semen expulsion

How come monks don't get Prostate issues?? Only coomers get prostate problems not retainers what are you talking about?? Prostate automatically expels semen, it's gets reabsorbed in the body.
Interesting claim, do you have evidence for this?
In my experience the prostatic fluid (semen) essentially degrades quickly in the first 24 hours of generation, and the residual fluid cakes into the prostate organ if not expelled.

Semen building up in the prostate over weeks, months to years will give you, prostate hypoplasia, or worse: prostate cancer

So how do i expel it from prostate with out ejaculation??

Go to the toilet and squat over it like you're going to do a poop, but instead of using the rectal muscles to release the poop , push it out with the lower abs muscles right above the penis.

Done correctly, you will literally see all the semen squeeze out of the penis.
 
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This is pretty funny, but they're right. This is theory crafting based on anecdotal evidence.
Someone actually has to try this out on an full scale experimental level to vindicate the information.

To do that it would be pretty straight forward.

  • buy a chastity cage about as large as your flaccid penis

  • make sure all your androgens are recovered, as mentioned early in this thread, and stay recovered during the duration of this experiment

  • watch porn, the chastity cage locks your penis in the size of your flaccid penis

  • maintain this 'non-erection' erection for ~10 minutes or something similar

  • stop watching porn and de-erect so you are flaccid,

  • remove cage till you do this again every ~7(?) days

  • expel semen from prostate

  • do the high hgh exercise regimen I recommended or 24 hour fasting regimen, or both

  • do this for ~6 months

  • measure

  • if the cage gets tighter on your flaccid penis during the 6 month period, then obviously this is working for you, but you also need to get a bigger cage for this 'restriction exercise'
Although I'm personally sticking to traditional PE methods, I do appreciate the insane amount of effort going into each reply. Good work greycel.
 
Although I'm personally sticking to traditional PE methods, I do appreciate the insane amount of effort going into each reply. Good work greycel.
It's effortless for someone that has anecdotal evidence that all of this is essentially fact.
Think Nikola Tesla showing people his technology- It works. But there is no scientific understanding of why yet, just his research.
 
It's effortless for someone that has anecdotal evidence that all of this is essentially fact.
Think Nikola Tesla showing people his technology- It works. But there is no scientific understanding of why yet, just his research.
I feel as though with this level of iq and dedication your talent is being wasted here. Why dont you choose to make money off this instead?
 
And slightly offtopic, but what are your thoughts on using resistance bands while sleeping to help stretch the spine? (while growing)

There's evidence to support this as an athlete (cant remember who) reportedly grew around 20cm from it
 
I feel as though with this level of iq and dedication your talent is being wasted here. Why dont you choose to make money off this instead?
Think constructively here: If I maximized every theory in this thread, what entity do you see?
What would you expect such an entity to do for work?

But here's a less cryptic answer

Why I don't gatekeep any of this incredible information
alright ty. off topic question. why do u choose to help people? do you not feel the need to gatekeep this stuff?
There's this video on youtube:
Why You're Shy Around Attractive People

I laughed watching this video, because i'm the very opposite.
Existing around non-attractive people people feels inherently 'wrong' to me. I behave most normal around attractive* (the actual word is neutral) looking people.
Do you understand?
 
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Think constructively here: If I maximized every theory in this thread, what entity do you see?
What would you expect such an entity to do for work?

But here's a less cryptic answer
King i have no idea what you're saying but what are your thoughts on my previous question
 
On the topic of the how natural wet dreams are

Are wet dreams really not natural??
Of course not. On top of what i've already mentioned about the fact that they are potty-training induced, what the fuck animal releases (about a third of their immediately available) reproductive material while asleep? Are you serious?? Seems like a pretty significant oversight in 'survival' and reproduction.
 
King i have no idea what you're saying but what are your thoughts on my previous question
Re-read the second part of that quote; everyone, even good looking people appear to be uncomfortable around better looking people.
I'm literally the opposite. I'm uncomfortable around unattractive people, regardless of my own appearance. I'm only comfortable around good looking people, even if they may objectively be better looking than me. This information is to make that a more realistic future, for my own comfort.
 
Re-read the second part of that quote, everyone, even good looking people appear to be uncomfortable around better looking people.
I'm literally uncomfortable around unattractive people, regardless of my own appearance. I'm only comfortable around good looking people, even if they may objectively be better looking than me. This information is to make that a more realistic future, for my own comfort.
Sorry no i meant this
And slightly offtopic, but what are your thoughts on using resistance bands while sleeping to help stretch the spine? (while growing)

There's evidence to support this as an athlete (cant remember who) reportedly grew around 20cm from it
 
Sorry no i meant this
I've done little research into resistance bands, or spinal stretching/decompression. I've done little research into height entirely beyond the research about growth-plate closure.
 
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I've done little research into resistance bands, or spinal stretching/decompression. I've done little research into height entirely beyond the research about growth-plate closure.
Ok bhai ily
 
Light Assessment I did on Semen clogging the prostate from my direct messages
But there are millions of guys doing semen retention so you are saying they are all screwed??

Im sure body finds some way to get rid of clogged up semen??
THINK

In the wild 100,000 years ago, i'm talking full primitive cavemen.

Is potty training natural there? no

Which means cavemen didn't get sleep-erections or wet dreams

Which means cavemen only got aroused when cavewomen signaled for sex like every other fucking animal in the wild, and ejaculated post arousal. No residual semen lingering in their insides.

The modern man is shown twerking ass or big titties bouncing every three videos on tiktok. The modern man (at least ~2 billion of them) are potty trained.

THINK
The way to get rid of clogged up semen is this expulsion method i've discussed, trust me you just need to get the hang of it.
Push hard and fast against the pelvic muscles as if you're compressing the inner pelvis/prostate like squashing a ball very fast.
 
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My response to a PM, on the function of seminal fluids in the prostate
OK one last question, do you think that squeezing out the semen this way will make guys lose some.of the benefits that come from retention??
Obviously the body uses important vitamins and nutrients to chemically generate semen during an erection, so ideally, you avoid getting aroused unless you are actually having sexual intercourse to ejaculation.

Otherwise the body just generates wasted semen.
 
My assessment on the herbivorous nature of homo sapiens

I postulate, humans require vitamin C, which exists in raw meat which I already claim we ate to separate ourselves from the primates.

Scientists claim that we ate lots of fruits like other primates during our primary evolutionary period. This makes no sense.

If we ate lots of vitamin C rich foods during our evolutionary period of hundreds of thousands if not millions of years, our teeth, at the very front of everything, would have developed an evolutionary mechanism to counter the extreme acidity that exists within the most common vitamin C rich foods. Yet, the most common vitamin C rich foods effectively completely ravage your teeth entirely unless you brush excessively after immediate consumption.

I am essentially using this basic assessment to imply that; I believe that we did not acquire our vitamin C from fruits, rather, we acquired it from eating raw animals. Where 'we don't produce vitamin C' is essentially the 'go-to' proof of herbivorism when it comes to scientific literature, i've essentially invalidated based on this minor logical discrepancy.

A quick visualization of the strict curl exercise I talked about to thicken your bones

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Light correction on what I mentioned about estrogen

Yam is highly estrogenic, not estrogen free, like white rice.
This was an immense misreading on my part while researching vegetables that actually lack significant phyto-estrogen content.

My apologies.

Wait are you saying that white rice is estrogen free? Or white rice is also highly estrogenic like yams?
 
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Light addition: If this wasn't already obvious, shoes deform the feet.
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Wait are you saying that white rice is estrogen free? Or white rice is also highly estrogenic like yams?
I'm pretty sure white rice doesn't have the bran that brown rice does, white rice seems to be pretty much pure carbs. I myself don't eat carbs anymore. Full carnivore.
 
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Light addition: If this wasn't already obvious, shoes deform the feet.
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I'm pretty sure white rice doesn't have the bran that brown rice does, white rice seems to be pretty much pure carbs. I myself don't eat carbs anymore. Full carnivore.
Holy shit! I agree. You represent everything I believe dude. I also plan on starting rock climbing and guess what they wear:
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This in turn deforms their feet:
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I also very recently started walking barefoot… I also started eating raw meat but I do consume fruits…

We have almost the exact same opinions on most of what you said so far!
 
Holy shit! I agree. You represent everything I believe dude. I also plan on starting rock climbing and guess what they wear: View attachment 2720902

This in turn deforms their feet: View attachment 2720907

I also very recently started walking barefoot… I also started eating raw meat but I do consume fruits…

We have almost the exact same opinions on most of what you said so far!
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Re-read the second part of that quote; everyone, even good looking people appear to be uncomfortable around better looking people.
I'm literally the opposite. I'm uncomfortable around unattractive people, regardless of my own appearance. I'm only comfortable around good looking people, even if they may objectively be better looking than me. This information is to make that a more realistic future, for my own comfort.
Brother what is the real criteria for hunter eyes I wana know
 
Brother what is the real criteria for hunter eyes I wana know
Bone around the eyes as in “upper orbitals” + enough fat to not look like a zombie
 
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On hydration and potty training
Whats the thinking behind "stay very hydrated throughout the whole day except before sleeping" aren't you only supposed to drink when you're thirsty? that's what hunter gatherers would do, no?
Yeah, this is just telling you that the conscious 'waste restriction' from potty training is a very serious factor here when it comes to hydration. For all intents and purposes, consider potty training to be completely sexually & biologically degenerative. The continuous water drinking can aid in allowing your body to be more relaxed in excreting waste as you will begin to have to pee more often, it'll help you consciously keep your bladder-holding muscles more relaxed.

On Height
im tryna grow taller and one strange method ive thought of is microneedling the growth plates and then applying some anabolic substance (like aminos). what else do u think i could apply?

also, for it to be effectively absorbed, would i have to dissolve the substance in a fat?
I have little research into height growth, the only assessment I've made on height is that homo sapien height is most ideal within a spectrum between 6'3 and 6'6.

Taller than this appears to become detrimental to human health (skeletal problems) and overall potential (center of gravity, caloric needs for growth & survival, power, absolute speed & explosiveness).

While shorter than this 'golden range' is a simply smaller-scaled human, with a proportionally smaller physical capability but on equivalent levels of 'physical efficacy' relative to their height;
Essentially, the scale of 'ideal activity' is from ~5'8 to 6'6.

Anything taller and your own physicality becomes 'alien'/'unrecognizable' to your own evolutionary DNA and less 'proportionally effective'/'mechanically human'.
 
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On Puberty

Do you know how to induce faster puberty? I heard sth about supplementing vit E or A with selenium to speed that up.

Also, do you know how to fix recessed chin (i already got braces to fix my teeth posture and i mew)
Puberty doesn't exist.

Your body reaches a level of development that can generate certain hormones and chemicals at a magnitudinally advanced scale. This is generally in the early teens, but subject to change earliness/lateness relative to epigenetic conditions (environment, diet, biological stress from physical activity, biological degeneration from premature sexual activity). <------- This is your answer

Puberty as a concept doesn't really exist, but if you want to quantify it by my aforementioned factors, it doesn't end.
 
An amendment to my assessment on the prostate

This is a new amendment based on new perspectives of the information, the facts are that the prostate goes into semen production immediately during an erection/arousal.

The new issue I have assessed- that I had not assessed before is that the factor of morning wood/sleep erections is far worse than I originally postulated, the semen that stays in the prostate doesn't just settle, it literally begins to cake into the prostate immediately if not expelled within ~1 hour.


This means semen expulsion needs to be done as early in the day as possible from when you wake up because of your potty training induced sleep-erections/morning wood.
 
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So When I bring my shoulders back(have bad posture) and then upwards and outwards my frame looks like a god, try it out once, But I cannot keep it forever, what could be the possibile reason behind this and will fixing posture allow me to keep it all the time? If you didn't understand I can upload a video
 
So When I bring my shoulders back(have bad posture) and then upwards and outwards my frame looks like a god, try it out once, But I cannot keep it forever, what could be the possibile reason behind this and will fixing posture allow me to keep it all the time? If you didn't understand I can upload a video
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i am not saying youre wrong, but why is having wide clavicles so attractive if it's a big evolutionary disadvantage
It's not attractive, having proportional skeletal structure is ideal. The wide shoulder stuff comes from superhero comics etc.
This is derek theler, he's ~6'8. But still proportional in the face, note the proportional shoulders.
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This is Fabein Pelous (left), he's 6'6
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'Framecel' is a meme, wider frames are literally counter-intuitive to facial development.
 
The links aren't working for some reason? Regardless I still believe being wide framed is good for you, Do you know what I was just describing above as I couldn't really fond anything about it online
 
The links aren't working for some reason? Regardless I still believe being wide framed is good for you, Do you know what I was just describing above as I couldn't really fond anything about it online
This is ideal shoulder posture; shoulders down, neck back.

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On the scientific basis of all of the data in this thread

Yes, this is extreme obscure information
Now you're thinking with critically.
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When it comes to scientific hypothesis, assume you are right until you find information stating you are wrong, look for this information.
Compare it to your hypothesis, weigh them by veracity and depth.

It's a lot easier for scientists who are actually paid to find and test this stuff in real time.
 
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This is ideal shoulder posture; shoulders down, neck back.

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Can you post another photo of said posture and one from the side too? I can't tell from that photo
 
how to stop fapping though
 
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This is ideal shoulder posture; shoulders down, neck back.

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Maybe for facial development but try doing what I said , It makes you look extremely masculine
 
Maybe for facial development but try doing what I said , It makes you look extremely masculine
Extreme shoulder width isn't even remotely dimorphic, little dude.
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It's unnatural. We aren't swimmers.

I have a hypothesis that wide shoulders look masculine because it effectively frauds arm thickness at the shoulder joint.

This is authentic robustness
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Extreme shoulder width isn't even remotely dimorphic, little dude.
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It's unnatural. We aren't swimmers.

I have a hypothesis that wide shoulders look masculine because it effectively frauds arm thickness at the shoulder joint.

This is authentic robustness
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Didn’t he use steroids?
 
Please discuss this in a separate thread concerning it or direct messages as it's a little derailing.

MINOR FIX to the regimen for 'facial hypertrophy exercises'
(PLEASE READ)


I have decided to change the regimen from holding the position for 8 minutes every 2 weeks, to 7 minutes every FOUR DAYS. I calculate this based on the time it seems to take for the muscles in the (non-mandibular) face to atrophy after hypertrophy.
I only started doing the 8 minutes every 2 weeks stuff very recently due to my own fatigue, but 7 minutes every FOUR DAYS has been what has gotten me optimal growth for the past 2 years.

I work out my malaris muscle for 10 minutes every day and my orbital oculi for 2 minutes, 30 seconds.
I assumed facial muscles would become “permanent” after a while since we are constantly moving them like chewing muscles, so it's kind of hard for them to atrophy.

If you worked out in the gym and stopped working out, of course you'd noticeably decrease in size, but you wouldn't be the same size as before ever hitting the gy
 
I work out my malaris muscle for 10 minutes every day and my orbital oculi for 2 minutes, 30 seconds.
I assumed facial muscles would become “permanent” after a while since we are constantly moving them like chewing muscles, so it's kind of hard for them to atrophy.

If you worked out in the gym and stopped working out, of course you'd noticeably decrease in size, but you wouldn't be the same size as before ever hitting the gy
Do you see any improvement? What did you look like before? How do you do the workouts?
 
Do you see any improvement? What did you look like before? How do you do the workouts?

I have been doing the malaris everyday for the past hmm few weeks I think maybe a month

my positive canthal tilt seems to be even more positive lol
But I haven’t been taking notes of my face
 
Do you see any improvement? What did you look like before? How do you do the workouts?
I will age significantly better the Malaris gives a DIY face lift, so having a strong one is important.

Check the other threads about it; it’s legit, bro.
 
I have been doing the malaris everyday for the past hmm few weeks I think maybe a month

my positive canthal tilt seems to be even more positive lol
But I haven’t been taking notes of my face
I trust your intuition but you should’ve. Missed opportunity…
I will age significantly better the Malaris gives a DIY face lift, so having a strong one is important.

Check the other threads about it; it’s legit, bro.
Is it the EMS for malaris? What device did you buy?
Something like this?
 
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you can expel residual semen from your prostate by squatting slightly in the bathroom and mentally pushing in on your frontal pelvis, like you would on your anus when you're taking a shit.
 
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I trust your intuition but you should’ve. Missed opportunity…

Is it the EMS for malaris? What device did you buy?
Something like this?


I did the facial exercise route ; it’s harder, but it lets you learn how to fully control that muscle group and work it out.
 
Didn’t he use steroids?
He probably does, but the effect is evident regardless. Arm bone thickness has obvious masculine dimorphic implications (strength and power). Clavicle width can effectively mimic this, but does not have the same implications.

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I trust your intuition but you should’ve. Missed opportunity…

Is it the EMS for malaris? What device did you buy?
Something like this?

This chick looks like she's sucking a dick no lie, this looks fucking retarded.
The exercises i've shown in picture form are simply holding a combination of most natural facial movements simultaneously, for an extended duration.
When it comes to hollow cheeks, the attractiveness behind them comes from the zygomatic bone mass stretching the skin from the mandibular bone mass, this is why when you drop body fat you can see hollow cheeks. But also why you should be able to see hollow cheeks regardless if you have correctly formed bone mass.
 
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He probably does, but the effect is evident regardless. Arm bone thickness has obvious masculine dimorphic implications (strength and power). Clavicle width can effectively mimic this, but does not have the same implications.

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This chick looks like she's sucking a dick no lie, this looks fucking retarded.
The exercises i've shown in picture form are simply holding a combination of most natural facial movements simultaneously, for an extended duration.
When it comes to hollow cheeks, the attractiveness behind them comes from the zygomatic bone mass stretching the skin from the mandibular bone mass, this is why when you drop body fat you can see hollow cheeks. But also why you should be able to see hollow cheeks regardless if you have correctly formed bone mass.
I already have a method in mind for this besides rock climbing, arm Wrestling, rice bucket etc but what exercise can effectively thicken the upper part of the arm? The top part.
 
I’ll never wear shoes again tbh
On the topic of the physical problems that come with restrictive clothing, let me enlighten you on the mental problems: read this private message that I had with a member of this forum

I think the main reason for "unnatural erections/arousal" isn't the modern age like you said where you have half naked girls twerking wherever you go, I think this would come with having the human mind and being conscious of everything and being able to formulate thoughts. As long as you can do that you WILL think about sex or girls eventually and get aroused, also female hunter gatherers were probably half naked too depending on location
Female deers are naked, female chimpanzees are naked, female lions and tigers are naked.
This is irrelevant to arousal.
Here's a new avenue of thought for you: clothes accelerate hypersexuality
For example: Do you see people with foot fetishes? I hypothesize that they grew up in an environment where their sexual targets wore shoes/socks excessively.
This literally starved their innate instincts of what the human feet are supposed to look like. Now they're grown up, when they see an attractive person take off their shoes, they get the most erect they have ever been.

The exact same psychological function applies for ALL clothes.
Growing up around people that wear clothes is an immense stimulator of sexuality.
You are literally supposed to be fine walking around seeing everyone completely nude without any sexual reaction.

I tried side sleeping on a hard surface today. After 2h of trying to fall asleep I gave up. Do you have any tips on how to make this more comfortable? Or I just have to get used to it?
Think relative to the original humans, who didn't sleep on rock probably.
Grass + dirt is pretty soft and comfortable to sleep on, so this is where they probably did, so maybe try a thick duvet laid on the floor or a very very thin mattress.
 
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I already have a method in mind for this besides rock climbing, arm Wrestling, rice bucket etc but what exercise can effectively thicken the upper part of the arm? The top part.
The strict curl-to-a-90 degree hold exercise that I detailed in the first post applies mechanical stress on the entire arm. The armwrestlers I showed you extensively practice curls, Denis Cyplenkov is the 2015 strict curl champion, but also widely regarded, at his prime, as the greatest arm-wrestler of all time.

 
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Height is also not entirely genetic, but obviously predisposed to existing genetics of course, this is all about ideal food amount intake as well as physical activity during development;
i have been fapping for 5 years for 3 times a week. I'm 17M. Didnt get a growth spurt till now. I'm 5'7'' 171cm in India West Bengal.

Did fapping reduce my height or I'm just thinking too much?
 
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