DHT MAXING - ULTIMATE GUIDE

[Deleted member 6423]

should i get creatine and superba? or is superba alone sufficient

 

[hairyballscel]

Search for shops that sell butea superba in your city and go there and pay with cash

@Daw

 

[hairyballscel]

should i get creatine and superba? or is superba alone sufficient

its probably enough on its own

 

[Deleted member 6695]

@Daw

I will go check some drug stores in my city tomorrow, hope they have it

 

[Chintuck22]

should i get creatine and superba? or is superba alone sufficient

It's best to have both for maximum benefit of DHT maxing. I haven't said that creatine might not work for some people so you gotta check it yourself and see if it does something for you. It's pretty cheap tho.

If you're going to just use one, go with butea, there are bunch of studies proving butea is legit whereas creatine only has 1 study behind it

 

[Wrecker]

RU58841 does only block androgens in the scalp it almost never goes systematic and if it does it aint enough to block androgens

So it will prevent hairloss?

 

[Chintuck22]

So it will prevent hairloss?

If it doesn't stop androgen receptors elsewhere the scalp, i'd go with RU then rather than IGF1 because IGF is too risky to use. But again i don't know if it stops androgens elsewhere the scalp, you must see studies before you use it.

 

[Deleted member 6400]

So my puberty happened late and im still 18,is there any chance of mantaining the growth plates opened if i DHTmaxx now?

 

[Chintuck22]

So my puberty happened late and im still 18,is there any chance of mantaining the growth plates opened if i DHTmaxx now?

Are you sure your puberty is still continuing?

If not, it's only worth DHT maxing to extend the age of your bones, so they'll fuse later in life. Meaning you can still grow after puberty if you DHT max

 

[Deleted member 6400]

Are you sure your puberty is still continuing?

If not, it's only worth DHT maxing to extend the age of your bones, so they'll fuse later in life. Meaning you can still grow after puberty if you DHT max

My puberty probably started at late 13 and i really noticed the most growth at 16 and i grew until 17. I still have the look of a teenager and

noticed the same pattern happening with my father (his growth spurt was at 16 and he also had a seemingly underdeveloped face at 18).

 

[Deleted member 2527]

DHT caused this in my mid 20s you gaslighting fuck

 

[Deleted member 4671]

Not like i can use any of this cos im a curry

 

[NoBonezForMoanz]

I noticed that with my fixed health my dht levels are now quite good as I'm getting a lot of hair everywhere now and overall more masculinization
But that's now at 19 years old, because of nonexistent dht in my teenage years due to malnourishment and bad health my wrists are 6.5 inches and the overall frame quite thin
So my trained and hairy underarms basicallly look like miniature versions of a construction worker's underarms
Now my question, is it still possible for my bones, especially the wrists, to become larger now at 19 with optimal dht levels and training?

 

[Chintuck22]

I noticed that with my fixed health my dht levels are now quite good as I'm getting a lot of hair everywhere now and overall more masculinization
But that's now at 19 years old, because of nonexistent dht in my teenage years due to malnourishment and bad health my wrists are 6.5 inches and the overall frame quite thin
So my trained and hairy underarms basicallly look like miniature versions of a construction worker's underarms
Now my question, is it still possible for my bones, especially the wrists, to become larger now at 19 with optimal dht levels and training?

It's impossible to grow wrist with just DHT maxing, you'll need to take HGH and IGF (Optional). First go to your doctor and check if the growth plates are fused in your wrists, if not follow dyo pubertymaxing guide although you can only increase wrist size if you're good responder to mentioned chemicals

The Ultimate pubertymaxxing guide, an introduction into androgens and growth factors, and how to apply them.

Preface: I've had a lot of questions in my pm's recently regarding growth hormone, IGF-1, and androgens. specifically, people asking me for sources and stacks, how they work, etc, I'm hoping this guide will be able to answer as many of your questions as possible. Disclaimer: this thread is...

looksmax.org

 

[NoBonezForMoanz]

It's impossible to grow wrist with just DHT maxing, you'll need to take HGH and IGF (Optional). First go to your doctor and check if the growth plates are fused in your wrists, if not follow dyo pubertymaxing guide although you can only increase wrist size if you good responder to mentioned chemicals

The Ultimate pubertymaxxing guide, an introduction into androgens and growth factors, and how to apply them.

Preface: I've had a lot of questions in my pm's recently regarding growth hormone, IGF-1, and androgens. specifically, people asking me for sources and stacks, how they work, etc, I'm hoping this guide will be able to answer as many of your questions as possible. Disclaimer: this thread is...

looksmax.org

Growth plates are for length, not for thickness, am I wrong? Also how much space is between the two bones
Would have to search up old pics from my dad to see if he had those motherfucking giant wrists back when he was young, now his forearms are literally twice the size of mine, the mog is sooo brutal

 

[Yusu]

DHT caused this in my mid 20s you gaslighting fuck

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thats normal?? your hair splits that way boy

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Magnesium is just to control cortisol after gymeceling

https://looksmax.org/threads/gymcelling-makes-you-older.31772/

If you want the full benefits out of it, i recommend you to take everything from my chart on thread i marked in blue collor

Of course for full maximum benefits you can take roids with IGF-1. If you don't care about balding and shit, you don't need IGF-1 then. (Take hCG and AI with cycle).

For high estrogen, it's good to hop on mild AI, such as Arimidex . But i can't tell you what and how much dosages for aromatase, you should do your bloodwork and take an AI accordingly afterwards. Losing weight can lower your E if you are fatcel to begin with

So you're saying if i take IGF1 with a roid cycle (low dosage) at 16 i wont rape my hair?

 

[Deleted member 3635]

So you want to increase your DHT? Say no more fella, cause i'm about to drop another banger.. let's begin:

DHT BENEFITS

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• IN THE WOMB

- The amount of DHT receptors you'll going to have is predetermined in the womb
- Wrist size, ankle size, and bone antropometry in general is affected by DHT to an extend
- As the whole endocrine system is forming, not only DHT, but the amount of IGF-1, Gh, Testosterone/Estrogen receptors... are forming (Important for later)
- Prenatal T might be of a accurate indicator that we have high DHT

• IN PUBERTY

- It promotes masculinization of the face, growth of the jaw, hunter eyes appearance, brow ridge growth... and a big tall chin
- It can increase your dick size DRAMATICALLY, talking about few more inches
- DHT extends puberty. You can have benefits of the longer puberty
- You can grow facial hair earlier than the others.
- Enlargement of larynx (Adam’s apple) and deepening of voice[3]
- Frame growth
- Higher DHT is responsible for 'logical' thinking, so you're thinking better (maturity), and sudden low inhib is result of that

• IN ADULTHDOOD

- DHT helps keep your growth plates open by antagonizing estrogen. Instead of your plates fusing at 19, you might probably extend it to 25.
- Growth of body hair, including underarm, abdominal, chest hair and pubic hair. Loss of scalp hair due to androgenic alopecia can also occur.
- You can still grow facial hair if you expose yourself to DHT later in life.
- In late puberty (17- 19), you can still deepen your voice to some extend.
- (ANECDOTAL) Some people reported growth of their frame

HOW TO INCREASE DHT

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* Don't choose SARMS, cause they promote no androgen activity. Nandrolone derivarives don't cause balding but DHT derivarives are superior for ENCHANCING DHT specifically.

DOSAGES

Dosages depends on 50 - 250mg, remember the more the higher risk. idk which roid is better for what but my man explained it well for me:

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...NATURALLY?

i've mentioned things that are legit, don't ever comment 'boron' or things like 'DHEA' cause they increases estrogen and speaking of input/reward ratio, you are likely going to lose.
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Blue = DHT​

Green = Testosterone​

Red = AVOID​

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- Taking Butea superba, which increases DHT 5X it's amount, (It doesn't cause balding so i'm pretty sure it has something to do with IGF receptors) @EternalLearner is taking this herb and he reported some benefits

- Taking Creatine, which supposedly increases DHT production by 50％ more itself, there are studies proving this, creatine is cheap supplement, and best you can get the most out of (Speaking of androgenmaxxing).

- Taking L-Carnitine, it sensitize the androgen receptors. Carnitine occurs naturally in meats and fish.

- Megadose Vit E, about 500mg/day, it is proven to reduce prolactin levels bu 70％, i'm going to talk about this in nofap section, just another estrogen acumulating over time causing bitch tits gynecomastia...

- Taking ashwagandha - plant that is reducing cortisol (Which further increases testosterone which is gonna be convertable to DHT later...), ashwagandha supress prolactin levels by like 15％ i recall.

- Lifting weights, hit atleast 2 bodyparts per day, and supplement magnesium after your workouts to lower cortisol. Don't go too intense because it might put your body under 'stress' mode, which will only increase cortisol and burn off additional calories - ⚠ IMPORTANT. If you want to lose weights, you are screwing your testosterone production, because like i said, you don't have the foundation to produce your hormones, even if you do something weightloss for your body:

- Starving yourself, doing high intensity workouts, sweating... It's all bad for your body and will make up bunch of cortisol because your body is on 'survival' mode methaporically speaking, and it's not looking up to preserve muscle, or hormones.

Spoiler: Proof

DHT is more “active” after periods of rest or inaction.
(https://peweemaster7.wordpress.com/research-and-proof-dimorphism-and-ratios/)

WE WANT AS LEAST CORTISOL AS POSSIBLE

* To avoid high intensity, don't do supersets between compound excercises, and give yourself respectable amount of rest

- Exposing yourself to estrogens, should i even mention this one? AVOID estrogens at all cost. Entering puberty with high estrogen = kill yourself.

- Sleep 7-9 hours, or even more, this is just an ideal range. It's best to go to sleep at 9PM because of natural melatonin production, but it's just worth mentioning right, not many people will do this. If you have trouble sleeping:
- Turn off your cellphone, or you can use it to watch some movies which will tire your eyes (Always worked for me )

- For better sleep, supplement with:

• Valerian root extract
• Chamomile root extract
• Mucuna pruriens extract
• ------------------------------------------------
• Delta sleep inducing peptide

Those are some herbs i can tell are legit for calming your body and they make you fall asleep. DSIP is mentioned here, give it a look

- DHT gel, works if you are in puberty, if you aren't, idk.. give it a shot and see... Apply it on dick for pee pee gains

STUDIES

Spoiler: Penis

Following baseline clinical and laboratory assessments all completed a 4-month course of daily DHT gel 2.5% (androstanolone) topically to penis (0.3 mg/kg body weight), with monitoring for adverse effects. Primary outcome was change in stretched penile length (SPL) following treatment

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In the available literature, topical DHT appears to be safe when used for periods of 3–4 months at the doses noted above

Topical DHT treatment appears to be a safe and well tolerated alternative to high-dose IM testosterone for micropenis associated with PAIS. Our case series suggests that for pre- and peri-pubertal boys, this may be a very effective therapy,

sci-hub.tw/10.1515/jpem-2015-0175



Study #2
To investigate the efficacy of transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy on 22 patients with microphallus, we applied dihydrotestosterone gel for 8 weeks to the external genitalia at daily doses of 12.5 mg. and 25 mg. for ages less than and older than 10 years, respectively

The mean increase rate (153%) in the first 4 weeks of treatment was higher than that (118%) of the second 4 weeks

Notice how even the 15year old was a good responder
sci-hub.tw/10.1016/s0022-5347(17)35576-3

Spoiler: Secondary sexual characteristics

Four months of DHT treatment (50 mg im every 2 wk) in adolescent boys with delayed puberty was associated with: 1) the appearance of secondary sexual characteristics commensurate with Tanner stage II of puberty; 2) body composition changes characterized by increased lean body mass and decreased percent body fat; 3) no change in IGF-I, mean nocturnal GH, and E2 concentrations; 4) no change in rates of lipolysis; 5) no change in rates of proteolysis; 6) decreased HDL level; and 7) no change in glucose metabolism and insulin sensitivity.

Note that this dose is small compared to what i would take 50mg daily (id take 14x that dose)

after 4 months of DHT treatment, both weight and height increased (weight, 45.9 ± 3.7 vs. 49.6 ± 3.6 kg, P < 0.001; height, 149.9 ± 1.6 vs. 152.3 ± 1.5 cm, P < 0.001). Growth velocity increased from 4.4 ± 0.8 to 5.9 ± 0.9 cm/yr in five subjects in whom pretreatment growth velocity was available and to 7.1 ± 0.1 cm/yr (n = 10). Fat-free mass (FFM) increased significantly, and percentage body fat decreased

Study number 2

Significant changes in secondary sexual development were seen in both groups. Pubic hair increased from stage 1.1 + 0.1 to 2.0 f 0.5 in group A and from stage 1.2 + 0.2 to 2.2 f 0.3 in group B (P = NS). Testis size did not change appreciably in either group. Testis diameter before treatment was 5.5 + 1.1 in group A and 4.0 + 0.6 in group B (differences not significant by t test). These measurements were 5.8 f 2.2 and 4.7 f 0.8 after treatment, also not significantly different either between groups or as a result of treatment.
ted subjects grew at rates comparable to peak HV for normal pubertal boys (l), at least during the brief period of treatment. Since, in the T-treated subjects, ICGH increased at least 4-fold, and in the DHT-treated subjects, ICGH decreased almost 50%, an increase in GH secretion does not seem to be a necessary condition for androgen-stimulated growth.
sci-hub.tw/10.1210/jcem.76.4.8473416

For older subjects (keep in mind that in terms of androgenic, dht is stronger , Dihydrotestosterone has the ability to bind to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) more than three times higher than testosterone)

Keep in mind this used low dose of 250mg test/3 weeks

Masculinizing therapy for F→M transsexual people was simpler in comparison, with fewer variations between patients and providers.

INTERESTING STUFF

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1. This is example of person with high DHT but 0 androgen receptors, that's why you wanna make sure you take L carnitine along your hormonemax supplements, remember it activates adrogen receptors

Spoiler: Example

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2. Many ethnics (Middle east, north Africa, Persian area...) have high DHT production but low sensitivity to it. That's why they can grow beard earlier, and they have quite body hair. Indian subcontinent being the worst, having the lowest DHT / IGF-1 that comes with race, so they're balding, having pitch voices, short... Which totally makes DHT useless at this point to them.

Spoiler: INDIANS VS OTHERS

Mean lean muscle mass (kg)

black males = 65.6kg
White males = 62 kg
Hispanic males = 59.9 kg
Asian males = 59.6 kg
Indian males = 53.3 kg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc...

At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/ar...

Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].

http://journals.plos.org/plosone...

The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/toda...

"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"

Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pub...

"Asian Indians have different body phenotype from Europeans (36). The major differences are in high
body fat, high truncal, subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat, and low muscle mass."

Ethnicity and type 2 diabetes in Asian Indian migrants in Auckland, New Zealand (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public....nd_New_Zealand [accessed Dec 18 2017].

"In particular, there is accumulating evidence that South Asians may have a 'low fitness' phenotype which contributes to their elevated cardio-metabolic risk, and thus may particularly benefit from undertaking higher levels of physical activity [14]"

https://www.researchgate.net/figure....outh-Asian-men

In South Asians, a unique obesity phenotype of high abdominal fat is associated with increased cardiovascular risk

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...11335515001308

Studies in the South Asian diaspora residing in the U.K. during the early 1980s suggested the possibility of an Asian Indian or South Asian phenotype (Fig. 1). This term refers to a combination of characteristics that predisposes SA to the development of insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular disease.

http://diabetes.diabetesjournals...

3. DOCTORS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ENDOCRINOLOGY
- They're only learned what's dangerous about steroids, and they doesn't learn about this in college. WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM ON SOME FUCKING FORUM,

going to a doc is pointless and frustrating, 80% of endocrinologists/urologists dont even know that something like HCG exists, they all see injectable testosterone as a Steroid abuser Hormone, which why they only prescribe testogel, they dont even prescribe AI's

... So it seems that we can help orselves rather than relying on the help of a doctor

CO-RELATION WITH SEMEN RETENTION !?

Spoiler: Co- relation

Alright let's use some logic instead, cause i'm lazy to do research after all this . When you fap, you ejacuate some testosterone, which could've been used by your body, but you dumped that extra T...

Spoiler: Co- relation

1. So how does our body use testosterone
- Through 5α- reduction, it either gets converted into DHT, or aromatised into estrogen. So by wasting that testosterone away, we dumped extra DHT, cause testosterone will be converted to DHT, if you aren't androgen dominant (T won't be converted to DHT), you wouldn't even have free T flowing to feel libido, motivation, energy... essentially free T is doing all the good things you think testosterone does. You can increase free T by taking proviron which lowers SHBG.

TL;DR
Masturbation = Low DHT

2. Since we know it's conversion - Does Nofap help us grow ?
- Can't answer that directly, but you saw my thread (from other forum) regarding heightmaxing, and it's discussed that DHT extends the bone growth. So by extracting that T which could be converted to DHT later, aren't we doing ourselves disadvantage in the long run?

Masturbation = Manlet

3. What happens to estrogen ?
- Meanwhile, your prolactin (Which causes low sex drive, and erectile dysfunction) is increasing. This effects in men because prolactin can stop the testes from producing testosterone. In some cases it may cause infertility, but this is pretty rare.

In males - Prolactinoma can cause decreased body or facial hair, and low bone density. Prolactin levels gets regulated to normal after one hour.

Masturbation = Prolactin release

Spoiler: How to reduce prolactin ?

"Now, on to the topic of suppressing prolactin; in this study, 300 mg’s of vitamin E for 8 weeks, decreased prolactin levels by a staggering 69% when compared to placebo in healthy human subjects."
ashwagandha:
"Furthermore, the same human study also found out that Ashwagandha lowered prolactin levels by a nice 15%."

Also @Sergeant, fix this problem with fucking spoilers.





REGARDS BALDING
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The effects of IGF-1 on the hair growth:



@BalkanPig @Kingkellz @john2 @Gudru @nelson @NickGurr @54UD4D3 @IncelWithNoLuck @Dr Shekelberg @Demonstrator @Chad1212​

Ok i have an idea take mk677 vitamin E and keto dht mk677 increases prolactin dht + lets say 150 mg of vitamin E should reduce it

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Also @Chad1212 @Britishlooksmaxxer @Extra Chromosome @Daw

Gtfih

not even tagging me?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

not even tagging me?

@Papabakvet

 

[Deleted member 6873]

@Papabakvet

jfl. Are you DHTmaxxing btw?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

jfl. Are you DHTmaxxing btw?

I am, but I'm trying to find dht to Inject. More useful imo

 

[Deleted member 6695]

Do I take creatine just before training or daily?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Do I take creatine just before training or daily?

I think about 20m or so after your workout is ideal

 

[Deleted member 6695]

I think about 20m or so after your workout is ideal

How does it taste?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

How does it taste?

I use the pills not the powder but when my pills run out I’m gonna buy powder instead cuz I have to pop like 10 pills to get what I would get out of the powder

the pills have 0 taste even when they’re on my tongue

 

[Deleted member 6695]

I use the pills not the powder but when my pills run out I’m gonna buy powder instead cuz I have to pop like 10 pills to get what I would get out of the powder

the pills have 0 taste even when they’re on my tongue

Well I ordered pills too

 

[Deleted member 6695]

Fuuck I asked my mom to order some creatine powder that is cheap with my money and she ordered some expensive creatine pills
Could the more expensive ones be better?
Happy and grateful nonetheless

 

[lifestyle21873]

Fuuck I asked my mom to order some creatine powder that is cheap with my money and she ordered some expensive creatine pills
Could the more expensive ones be better?
Happy and grateful nonetheless

I think about 20m or so after your workout is ideal

jfl ur supposed to take 5mg creatine every day, no loading phase bullshit. 5mg everyday

 

[Deleted member 6695]

jfl ur supposed to take 5mg creatine every day, no loading phase bullshit. 5mg everyday

The site said 2.5mg, but if thats the case then I am taking 5

 

[lifestyle21873]

The site said 2.5mg, but if thats the case then I am taking 5

5mg mix it with water and drink it when ur eating

 

[Deleted member 5818]

The site said 2.5mg, but if thats the case then I am taking 5

U mean g not mg?

also the pills probably won’t be better ngl

 

[lifestyle21873]

The site said 2.5mg, but if thats the case then I am taking 5

U mean g not mg?

also the pills probably won’t be better ngl

damn i meant 5g, take 5g creatine everyday mix it with water

 

[ThreadMatters]

DHT caused this in my mid 20s you gaslighting fuck

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u remind me of this guy

Hell u are him go make tik tok vid u eboy fag mofo

 

[Deleted member 6695]

damn i meant 5g, take 5g creatine everyday mix it with water

Same, I mean g too

 

[Kingcel32]

is 420mg a good dosage for Butea superba? Or is that too much

 

[Deleted member 4053]

is 420mg a good dosage for Butea superba? Or is that too much

@EternalLearner said he was told 300mg but there isn't a universally-agreed upon optimal dosage

I got 420mg butea superba pills ngl

 

[Kingcel32]

@EternalLearner said he was told 300mg but there isn't a universally-agreed upon optimal dosage

I got 420mg butea superba pills ngl

Have you taken them yet?

 

[Yusu]

I am on day 3 on butea, ofc no changes
I will report changes

 

[Deleted member 685]

I can't believe people are falling for this stuff

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I can't believe people are falling for this stuff

Verneukt het mn haar?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Verneukt het mn haar?

I'll talk this in English so everyone understands.

I took dht gel for close to a half a year, now even though I just became 18 and I'm not fully done developing yet (voice, chest hair, face etc) I highly doubt dht gel had a significant impact on it at this stage. What it did do was make my hairline noticeably higher to the point where my temples are now receded. It brought me to a point where I actually have to fraud my hairline now.

Androgen sensitivity etc is all determined by genetics and prenatal testosterone which may be influenced to some extent. It is what it is. How many hypermasculine men do you see preaching nofap or chomping down some gymshark supplements?

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I'll talk this in English so everyone understands.

I took dht gel for close to a half a year, now even though I just became 18 and I'm not fully done developing yet (voice, chest hair, face etc) I highly doubt dht gel had a significant impact on it at this stage. What it did do was make my hairline noticeably higher to the point where my temples are now receded. It brought me to a point where I actually have to fraud my hairline now.

Androgen sensitivity etc is all determined by genetics and prenatal testosterone which may be influenced to some extent. It is what it is. How many hypermasculine men do you see preaching nofap or chomping down some gymshark supplements?

Ait thanks man, yeah i'm not gonna take the Buteau for DHT. Cause i'm unsure on my dad's hairgenes.

 

[Chintuck22]

I'll talk this in English so everyone understands.

I took dht gel for close to a half a year, now even though I just became 18 and I'm not fully done developing yet (voice, chest hair, face etc) I highly doubt dht gel had a significant impact on it at this stage. What it did do was make my hairline noticeably higher to the point where my temples are now receded. It brought me to a point where I actually have to fraud my hairline now.

Androgen sensitivity etc is all determined by genetics and prenatal testosterone which may be influenced to some extent. It is what it is. How many hypermasculine men do you see preaching nofap or chomping down some gymshark supplements?

... Like i said past puberty it's only worth DHT maxing to extend the age of your growth plates. That's why i'm DHT maxing for, i've got marginal results for everything else at age 17

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Ait thanks man, yeah i'm not gonna take the Buteau for DHT. Cause i'm unsure on my dad's hairgenes.

Butea supposedly doesn't cause hair loss, as it has even been traditionally used as a remedy against it

 

[Chintuck22]

Ait thanks man, yeah i'm not gonna take the Buteau for DHT. Cause i'm unsure on my dad's hairgenes.

Inject IGF 1 to prevent balding

IGF-1 LR3, (Injections) - Combine it with heightmaxing stack, 100mcg daily would last you 100days, it would cost $1400 yearly maybe with all the shipping.

 

[Deleted member 685]

... Like i said past puberty it's only worth DHT maxing to extend the age of your growth plates. That's why i'm DHT maxing for, i've got marginal results for everything else at age 17

That's cope too

 

[Chintuck22]

That's cope too

My growth plates are still open

 

[Wrecker]

That's cope too

Can you elaborate on this?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Can you elaborate on this?

Why not use aromasin instead of dht and risking recession?