GTFIH Test your mouth area

[VampyrMaxx]

Perfect mouth area: Upturned mouth corners (ideal), 54mm wide mouth, defined lips and vermillion border, good upper and lower lip thickness, good fat pads around the mouth

Downturned mouth corners (unideal)

Neutral mouth corners (unideal but not as bad as downturned)

Thin Lips (Unideal)

Thick Lips (Unideal; with average Caucasian philtrum anatomy)

Thick Lips that MOG

Narrow Mouths

52mm

50mm

48mm

46mm

44mm

Wide Mouths

56mm

58mm

60mm

62mm

64mm

 

[VampyrMaxx]

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[VampyrMaxx]

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[HighIQ ubermensch]

Thick Lips (Unideal)

why?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

why?

on average philtrum anatomy of a Caucasian they should be full but not thick. Thick lips can only be supported by people with a short philtrum. Otherwise you look uncanny

You wouldn't be able to convince me that a Caucasian with a 15mm philtrum would look good with these lips

 

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[HighIQ ubermensch]

they should be full but not thick.

What's the difference?
The pic you attached doesn't look too thick & Jeremy Meeks has thicker.

Thick lips can only be supported by people with a short philtrum. Otherwise you look uncanny

Don't Lips reduce philtrum height?
If Philtrum to chin & facial thirds are good, they should be Ideal no?

You wouldn't be able to convince me that a Caucasian with a 15mm philtrum would look good with these lips

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I think I'm misunderstanding something, can you clear my doubts?

 

[VampyrMaxx]

 

[VampyrMaxx]

What's the difference?
The pic you attached doesn't look too thick & Jeremy Meeks has thicker.

Don't Lips reduce philtrum height?
If Philtrum to chin & facial thirds are good, they should be Ideal no?

I think I'm misunderstanding something, can you clear my doubts?

The anatomy of africans is different than caucasians. This is why ratios dont work when analyzing a face, you will always have to look at the features themselves. You wouldn't be able to tell if both the features (chin and philtrum) are ideal from looking at one number from the ratio. You will have to look at the individual features themselves to determine whether they are good or not.

The ideal chin to philtrum is 2.67 (no pun intended) as indicated by this photo.

I can increase or decrease the philtrum to maintain the 2.67. This morph is a bit extreme but the 2.67 is basically maintained. The problem is not the "ratio", the problem is that the philtrum and the chin are both too long. This is why features only matter not ratios.

The point I was trying to make with the photos is that Africans have a shorter philtrum and thicker lips to compensate for the mouth area, but Caucasians have a longer philtrum with thinner lips to compensate. Both look good but they compensate in different areas to maintain a working and aesthetic mouth area.

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[PSL Final Lord]

Perfect mouth area: Upturned mouth corners (ideal), 54mm wide mouth, defined lips and vermillion border, good upper and lower lip thickness, good fat pads around the mouth

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Downturned mouth corners (unideal)

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Neutral mouth corners (unideal but not as bad as downturned)

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Thin Lips (Unideal)

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Thick Lips (Unideal; with average Caucasian philtrum anatomy)

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Thick Lips that MOG

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Narrow Mouths

52mm

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50mm

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48mm

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46mm

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44mm

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Wide Mouths

56mm

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58mm

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60mm

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62mm

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64mm

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Why do I think a wider mouth looks more good as it signifies masuclinity and dimorphism, I think 58mm should be the ideal

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Why do I think a wider mouth looks more good as it signifies masuclinity and dimorphism, I think 58mm should be the ideal

Really? I think it could look good at 56 maybe, but 58? No way, it starts becoming uncanny imo

58 isnt masculine and dimorphic, that would be 54

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Also, mouth width aesthetics can also be semi-dependent on phenotype, this is for mostly Caucasian anatomy**

 

[Hunter]

Make a thread on how to improve this cause this is one of my flaws i despise my mouth width to nose width ratio is like 1-1.1 or 1.2
Also 1 day before necrobump territory atleast i think

 

[theübermenschboy]

Perfect mouth area: Upturned mouth corners (ideal), 54mm wide mouth, defined lips and vermillion border, good upper and lower lip thickness, good fat pads around the mouth

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Downturned mouth corners (unideal)

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Neutral mouth corners (unideal but not as bad as downturned)

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Thin Lips (Unideal)

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Thick Lips (Unideal; with average Caucasian philtrum anatomy)

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Thick Lips that MOG

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Narrow Mouths

52mm

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50mm

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48mm

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46mm

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44mm

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Wide Mouths

56mm

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58mm

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60mm

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62mm

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64mm

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Nice thread pal