Guide To Understanding Perceived Behaviours In Faces - Heroic/Safe/Good vs Villainous/Mysterious/Bad

[Gengar]

Literally takes 2 minutes to read tops.

Keep coping. That’s 20 minutes for me.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Keep coping. That’s 20 minutes for me.

Tbh I am a fast reader.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Hit the BOTB, mirin myself.

@LooksOrDeath @pneumocystosis @NordicMaxxer @julianchicago @slayer69 @Earth Dollar @BoredPrince @DelonLover1999 @TsarTsar444 @temporomandibular32 @Grel Hellscream

 

[Napoleon1800]

Hit the BOTB, mirin myself.

@LooksOrDeath @pneumocystosis @NordicMaxxer @julianchicago @slayer69 @Earth Dollar @BoredPrince @DelonLover1999 @TsarTsar444 @temporomandibular32 @Grel Hellscream

Hey man just a question have you ascended yet you've been here for more than a year?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Hey man just a question have you ascended yet you've been here for more than a year?

I don't have enough money to ascend, still need to get enough money to ascend. I have collected a lot of knowledge though.

 

[Napoleon1800]

I don't have enough money to ascend, still need to get enough money to ascend. I have collected a lot of knowledge though.

Height?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Height?

190 cm.

 

[Debetro]

really funny thread ngl, it reminds me of 2019-2020 format and way of writing

 

[PseudoMaxxer]

Always knew in the back of my mind that this sort of phenomena existed, just didn’t know the science behind it.
Good post OP, always had problem bonding and building trust with people and always had friends who say that i look like i’m evil.
I always knew it was my face and you confirmed it with this high IQ Post.
Really impressed.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Always knew in the back of my mind that this sort of phenomena existed, just didn’t know the science behind it.
Good post OP, always had problem bonding and building trust with people and always had friends who say that i look like i’m evil.
I always knew it was my face and you confirmed it with this high IQ Post.
Really impressed.

Yep, even had @drop tell me that this is a "subconscious water" thread.
I.e everyone acts according to these rules but no one has actually taken time to reach into our brains, deconstruct, comprehend, categorize, and present the logic behind it in a way which is easy to learn. The unspoken rule becomes spoken.
Everyone knows this but no one has said it before. Breaking the 4th wall lmao.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Keep coping. That’s 20 minutes for me.

So what did you think of the thread bhai?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

@Xangsane you have missed this newly added BOTB thread.

 

[Xangsane]

@Xangsane you have missed this newly added BOTB thread.

thank you!!

 

[Xangsane]

This thread is going to be about something quite unexplored, although very important, especially for a looksmaxxer. When people look at your face they obviously see your looks level which will dictate how they treat you. But they also read a perceived behaviour from your face. This is just as important as your looks level because it literally dictates how people will adjust themselves around you due to how they think you behave. The way your face looks will define your perceived behaviour. How this is not discussed at all is beyond me, because there is the "looks axis" and then the "behavioral axes", there are many many axes on what your perceived behaviour is like. What people think you're like is extremely important to understand. I will make a guide on how certain features result in certain "expressions" i.e a perceived behaviour. I have said before to play what you can and not what you want and I wish for those reading to understand what their face exudes and how they can utilize that to their benefit. This will help you understand to which girls you may be appealing and how you should present yourself.

Some of this has been scientifically studied before as these examples below showcase:

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This specific thread will only cover what makes a face appear Heroic/Safe/Good and Villainous/Mysterious/Bad respectively.
None of this I will talk about is scientifically proven although holds a lot of "subconscious merit through pop culture", this is seen in character creation.
I will use other terms to encapsulate each respective expression.

No more time to waste, let's get into it.

For the rest of this thread the Heroic/Safe/Good expression is now referred to as the Knight.

The attributes you shall perceive when looking at a man with the Knight expression are as follows:
- Heroic
- Safe
- Good
- Trustworthy
- Strong
- Caring
- Fatherly
- Boring
- Pragmatic
- Logical

You look at this person and feel like you are in good company.

What creates the Knight expression?
- Wide neck.
- Compact Cro Magnon skull / Square face.
- Higher end FWHR.
- Midface ratio of 1-1.05.
- Wide jaw and wide chin.
- Ideally no antegonial notch.
- Lower set, higher mass zygos.
- A larger broader nose is allowed, it should not be too thin.
- Thinner, more unexpressive lips.
- Kind roundish eyes, a "sharp" expression is NOT to be pursued for this expression as they look cunning.
- Neutrally tilted vertically tall eyebrows.
- Ideally light eye color as light eyes allow for a visible pupil which makes trustbuilding and intention reading easier.
- Lower contrast coloring, looking "bland" is ideal to look safe, not too tan.
- Short hair with a 3-4 finger square hairline, ideally sideparted and neat.
- Clean shaven OR moustache for facial hair.

For body you should ideally be between 180-195cm tall with a brawny endomorph build, usually aquired later in life.

The shape the face should exude is: Square, this is created by the compact total FWHR, wide jaw and chin, and low set high mass zygos.

TL;DR: Mufasa's expression in human form.

Keep in mind you do NOT have to check EVERY box, barely anyone does and they still have the expression, these are the features that bring you closer to it.

Examples of faces that have the Knight expression:

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As you can see this expression is generally favoured in Hollywood.

Benefits of the Knight?
+ High perceived class and financial status.
+ Approachable, people will want to socialize with you.
+ Ideal for LTR's.

Drawbacks of the Knight?
- Girls will most likely not go for you when seeking short term relationships i.e ONS'.
- Men will not feel threatened/intimidated by you.
- Percieved as having a boring character, not that unique or deep.

What type of women does the Knight attract?
- HQNP-leaning women looking for a partner.
- Middle aged women.
- Women with daddy issues (a sporadic amount of teens).
- Gold diggers.

Now we move on to this types polar opposite, the Villainous/Mysterious/Bad expression.

For the rest of this thread the Villainous/Mysterious/Bad expression is now referred to as the Fox.

The attributes you shall perceive when looking at a man with the Fox expression are as follows:
- Villanious
- Mysterious
- Bad
- Untrustworthy
- Sleek
- Self absorbed
- Unpredictable
- Unique
- Intuitive
- Emotional, almost slightly primal

You look at this person and you have no idea what their intentions are.

What creates the Fox expression?
- Tall Aurignacian skull / Oval face.
- Lower end FWHR.
- Midface ratio of 0.95-1.
- Medium jaw width, emphasis on POINTY chin.
- An antegonial notch ideally.
- Higher set, lower mass zygos, ideally hollow cheeks with a narrow chiseled canine fossa.
- The entire "Lefort 2 area" should have extra anterior facial depth to look like a fox does.
- Long thin nose is preferred, it should not be too broad or compact.
- Fuller lips, ideally a defined Cupid's bow as well.
- High PFL, low PFH, "sharp" eyes, ideally a long downturned medial canthus.
- Postively tilted vertically narrow eyebrows, slight arch is allowed for an extra arrogant expression.
- Preferably darker eye color as dark eyes do not really allow for a visible pupil which makes trustbuilding and intention reading more difficult.
- Either go "vampire" with pale skin and dark splashes in hair, eyes, eyebrows OR go "exotic" with tan skin, and light/medium colored hair and eyes.
- Higher contrast coloring, looking "unique" is ideal to look villainous.
- Medium length hair with a 4 finger natural Widow's peak hairline, ideally a messy 70/30 or middle part.
- Either stubble or clean shaven facial hair.

For body you should ideally be between 175-190cm tall with an ectomorph/mesomorph wiry frame, low bodyfat is key here.

The shape the face should exude is: Triangle, caused by the high set low mass zygos, narrow canine fossa, forward grown Lefort 2 area, and pointy chin.

TL;DR: Scar's expression in human form.

Keep in mind you do NOT have to check EVERY box, barely anyone does and they still have the expression, these are the features that bring you closer to it.

Examples of faces that have the Fox expression:
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As you can see this expression is generally favoured in modelling.

Benefits of the Fox?
+ High sex appeal.
+ Naturally intimidating towards other men.
+ Ideal for ONS'.
+ Seen as interesting and unique.

Drawbacks of the Fox?
- Generally low perceived class or financial status unless very "vampiresque".
- Not easy to approach.
- Generally overlooked for LTR's.
- Slower process of trust building.

What type of women does the Fox attract?
- JBs.
- Young-middle aged women.
- Women who like "bad boys".
- Women interested in hooking up.

Tell me below which perceived behaviour you would want to learn about.

That's it for this thread. It was requested by @SurgeryEnjoyer and @Fearmaxxed.

are we both Fox or Knight?
You look foxy.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

are we both Fox or Knight?
You look foxy.

Yes I am forced into the fox route due to my features. I'd say you look fairly neutral altough slightly knight leaning.

 

[Xangsane]

Yes I am forced into the fox route due to my features.

Fox is much better and higher SMV imo.

I'd say you look fairly neutral altough slightly knight leaning.

why do you think I'm knight leaning?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Fox is much better and higher SMV imo.

Fox is much more of a gamble, more unconventional, has both more benefits and drawbacks. Meanwhile knight is versatile.

why do you think I'm knight leaning?

You look safe and trustworthy, you look caring and heroic. Remember I said you have prince pheno, that's the prettyboy variant of knight.

 

[Xangsane]

Fox is much more of a gamble, more unconventional, has both more benefits and drawbacks. Meanwhile knight is versatile.

which one would you say has higher SMV?

You look safe and trustworthy, you look caring and heroic.

I gotcha, and that's even with the PCT, strong contrast and full lips?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

which one would you say has higher SMV?

As I said they appeal to different women.

I gotcha, and that's even with the PCT, strong contrast and full lips?

Your PCT lacks long downturned medial canthus and your eyes aren't that vertically narrow. Your face just is not "triangular".

 

[Xangsane]

As I said they appeal to different women.

I gotcha. Maybe that's why my GF says I look safe?

Your PCT lacks long downturned medial canthus and your eyes aren't that vertically narrow.

round?

Your face just is not "triangular".

is my face squarer?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I gotcha. Maybe that's why my GF says I look safe?

Surely is.

round?

Slightly, looks fatherly.

is my face squarer?

Yeah I'd say so.

 

[Xangsane]

Surely is.

Slightly, looks fatherly.

Yeah I'd say so.

And perhaps my default facial expression?
I think the fuller lips and colouring won't count as you might have to take into account ethnicity. IDK.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

And perhaps my default facial expression?
I think the fuller lips and colouring won't count as you might have to take into account ethnicity. IDK.

Most people will have a bit of both, few will be high pedigree in either direction to the extent they have a purebred expression.

 

[Xangsane]

Most people will have a bit of both, few will be high pedigree in either direction to the extent they have a purebred expression.

I think my default facial expression seals the deal that I'm more of a knight type

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I think my default facial expression seals the deal that I'm more of a knight type

Just like the vast majority of people are neither attractive or ugly the vast majority of people are neither knights or foxes. I got fox potential though considering how many of my features lean that way.

 

[Xangsane]

Just like the vast majority of people are neither attractive or ugly the vast majority of people are neither knights or foxes. I got fox potential though considering how many of my features lean that way.

Do you think you can foxmaxx to look gigafox?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Do you think you can foxmaxx to look gigafox?

Well, definitely a comfortable fox considering people already tell me I look hard to read and unpredictable.

 

[Krakowski]

Yep, even had @drop tell me that this is a "subconscious water" thread.
I.e everyone acts according to these rules but no one has actually taken time to reach into our brains, deconstruct, comprehend, categorize, and present the logic behind it in a way which is easy to learn. The unspoken rule becomes spoken.
Everyone knows this but no one has said it before. Breaking the 4th wall lmao.

When did he say that

 

[Xangsane]

Well, definitely a comfortable fox considering people already tell me I look hard to read and unpredictable.

how could I knightmaxx?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

When did he say that

Today on discord.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

how could I knightmaxx?

Follow your lacks in the list and pursue them.

 

[Xangsane]

Follow your lacks in the list and pursue them.

should I make my colouring blander and lips thinner?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

should I make my colouring blander and lips thinner?

I would not make lips thinner especially as they naturally thin out as you age. Get a more conventional strict haircut and trim eyebrows.

 

[Krakowski]

Today on discord.

 

[Xangsane]

I would not make lips thinner especially as they naturally thin out as you age. Get a more conventional strict haircut and trim eyebrows.

OK! What sort of haircut for me?!

 

[HarrierDuBois]

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We talked on cord, cage asf he is online now and broke his own streak JFL that he moves up his 1 year disappearence every time he rejoins.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

OK! What sort of haircut for me?!

Sidepart.

 

[Xangsane]

Sidepart.

I can do a sidepart!

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I can do a sidepart!

Then do that!

 

[Xangsane]

Then do that!

Yes!

 

[EnglandBadman]

Im a subhuman fox

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Im a subhuman fox

You aren't exactly a fox, you just have a thin face, you lack most of the fox features, especially the eyes and the "fox maxilla".

 

[Deleted member 43403]

Yes!

What the Fuck is that avi

 

[Xangsane]

What the Fuck is that avi

YES!

 

[Deleted member 43403]

YES!

Did You Generate Them or Are They Real ? Why do they all look the same

 

[Xangsane]

Did You Generate Them or Are They Real ? Why do they all look the same

real

 

[0hMan]

real

Looks super real...

 

[Deleted member 29581]

Would it be optimal for a black to be a knight?

 

[schizo echochamber]

Inb4 botb

 

[schizo echochamber]

Inb4 botb

Nvm late af