Gut health is everything (MENTAL HEALTH THREAD)

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

I just had 4 massive plates for thanksgiving. Thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

I just had 4 massive plates for thanksgiving. Thoughts?

Over

 

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

Over

How. It was all quality food

 

[Deleted member 6572]

How. It was all quality food

Meanwhile on thanksgiving I was in the middle of my 36 hour fast i ended up completing to lean max. Remember food is our enemy man

 

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

Meanwhile on thanksgiving I was in the middle of my 36 hour fast i ended up completing to lean max. Remember food is our enemy man

Mirin but don’t starve yourself. You’ll fuck up your metabolism

 

[Deleted member 6572]

Mirin but don’t starve yourself. You’ll fuck up your metabolism

Metabolism doesn’t vary from person to person that much that’s all made up man.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

My RETARDED dermatologist had me on antibiotics for 4 fucking years straight for acne.

No goddamn wonder why I'm so depressed. How can I easily fix this?

 

[RAITEIII]

Its not your fault. There is basically 0 science in how to improve ur gut

dont fall for the gut health community. every problem on earth is in the gut apperantly
How do these guys even think about trauma?

until they have a consitent and scientifically proven method, they can shut the fuck up.

i have severe anxiety and depression problems.no one else in my family does. We always had the same diet. How would this gut health is everything theory explain that?
I had a series of unfortunate evens that my siblings didnt have. that is the difference, not the diet

Your looks = your mental health

JFL I only feel depressed when my life is trash and I'm looking like shit. If I am looking good then I suddenly become happy, productive, proactive, motivated...

 

[RAITEIII]

Your looks = your mental health

JFL I only feel depressed when my life is trash and I'm looking like shit. If I am looking good then I suddenly become happy, productive, proactive, motivated...

Saying that it's all about your gut if your looks and life are suboptimal is like going to therapy and try to accept urself while being blackpilled at the same time.

JFL but like yh fix ur gut if you can. Just remember that looks> everything.

 

[Summer]

Part 2 please ??

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Dude I was on antibiotics for 4 years and I'm clinically depressed tell me how to fix my biome NOW

 

[Deleted member 3635]

:50% of dopamine is produced in the stomach.

Frontiers | Peripheral Dopamine Controlled by Gut Microbes Inhibits Invariant Natural Killer T Cell-Mediated Hepatitis

Neurotransmitters have been shown to regulate immune responses, and thereby are critically related to autoimmune diseases. Here we showed that depletion of d...

www.frontiersin.org

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:90-95 of serotonin produced in the gut

Study shows how serotonin and a popular anti-depressant affect the gut's microbiota

A new study in mice strongly suggests that serotonin and drugs that target serotonin, such as anti-depressants, can have a major effect on the gut's microbiota -- the 100 trillion or so bacteria and other microbes that live in the human body's intestines.

www.sciencedaily.com

:GABA and oxytocin and multiple other chemicals crucial to mood are produced in the gut at levels considered to be crucial to mental health

How your gut might modify your mind

The microbes that live in your body might be influencing your behavior. Researchers want to know what they’re saying to your brain and how

cen.acs.org

:The vagus nerve is a direct link to the brain from the gut and the enteric nervous system and majority of immune system are in the gut

4 tips for a happier gut and a healthier you

(BPT) - Who could have guessed the popular term, “trust your gut” would become one of the ultimate, trending wellness tips for 2019?

apnews.com

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Frontiers | Vagus Nerve as Modulator of the Brain–Gut Axis in Psychiatric and Inflammatory Disorders

The vagus nerve represents the main component of the parasympathetic nervous system, which oversees a vast array of crucial bodily functions, including contr...

www.frontiersin.org

The bowel and beyond: the enteric nervous system in neurological disorders - Nature Reviews Gastroenterology & Hepatology

The enteric nervous system is vital for life, and its dysfunction participates not only in digestive disorders, but also in diseases of the central nervous system (CNS). Here, Rao and Gershon discuss the gastrointestinal consequences of neurological disorders, the acquisition of CNS disease in...

www.nature.com

:Overwhelming Minority of the worlds population around 5-10% is considered to have ideal gut health

The healthy human microbiome

Humans are virtually identical in their genetic makeup, yet the small differences in our DNA give rise to tremendous phenotypic diversity across the human population. By contrast, the metagenome of the human microbiome—the total DNA content of ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

:Ssris have been used quite commonly to treat irritable bowel syndrome and other stomach issues to surprising effect

How do SSRIs help patients with irritable bowel syndrome?

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressants seem to promote global well being in some patients with irritable bowel syndrome and, possibly, some improvement in abdominal pain and bowel symptoms, but this effect appears to be independent of ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Treating Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) With Constipation

Learn about medications, therapy, and changes in your diet that can relieve constipation from irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).

www.webmd.com

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:Multiple mental and physical health issues be that adhd,
Anxiety, add, depression, schizophrenia, autism, ocd, bipolar, dementia, parkinson's side effects have been significantly either lessened or in some cases completely have disappeared when gut health is addressed.

The Potential Influence of the Bacterial Microbiome on the Development and Progression of ADHD

The latest research cumulates staggering information about the correlation between the microbiota-gut-brain axis and neurodevelopmental disorders. This review aims to shed light on the potential influence of the microbiome on the development of the most ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gut microbiota’s effect on mental health: The gut-brain axis

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

so to end this post (tldr) take care of your stomach and your health it literally is everything.

Will make a part 2 addressing how to heal or partially recover gut health as much as possible.

tag me in it broski i been looking in to gut health as well

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Dude I was on antibiotics for 4 years and I'm clinically depressed tell me how to fix my biome NOW

probiotics foods and supplements, prebiotic foods, raw milk , r reuteri , sauer kraut and having tiny amounts of sugar

 

[Deleted member 9837]

Your looks = your mental health

JFL I only feel depressed when my life is trash and I'm looking like shit. If I am looking good then I suddenly become happy, productive, proactive, motivated...

No. If this was true good looking people wouldn’t kill themselves

you clearly haven’t dealt with serious mental health issues if you can say this shit unironically

 

[Deleted member 3043]

what is gut?

 

[Soalian]

what is gut?

It's German you retard, we don't need crass, illiterate people like you here.

 

[RAITEIII]

No. If this was true good looking people wouldn’t kill themselves

you clearly haven’t dealt with serious mental health issues if you can say this shit unironically

JFL I might come back to reply to this some other time.

 

[Deleted member 9837]

JFL I might come back to reply to this some other time.

If you ever dealt with legitimate ocd or some shit like schizophrenia you’d understand what you said is retarded

 

[oatmeal]

If you ever dealt with legitimate ocd or some shit like schizophrenia you’d understand what you said is retarded

it is true. inb4 some guy is like 'being good looking cures schizophrenia' jfl

 

[Cope]

Can you make a gut health maxing guide for mentallyillcels?

Fluconazole - destroys candida within the gut
Oral BPC-157 - reduce gut permeability and enhance gut-brain axis
Intermittent fasting - helps starve bad bacteria
Remove all sugar from diet and only consume low amounts of carbohydrates (no gluten)
Probiotic enema - to clean and repopulate the microbiota in order to aid gut repair

 

[Summer]

Fluconazole - destroys candida within the gut
Oral BPC-157 - reduce gut permeability and enhance gut-brain axis
Intermittent fasting - helps starve bad bacteria
Remove all sugar from diet and only consume low amounts of carbohydrates (no gluten)
Probiotic enema - to clean and repopulate the microbiota in order to aid gut repair

You and op should work together on some hyper ultra polished ultimate guide for autisticels here bros

 

[MedMaxxing]

Everything truly starts at your digestive system tbh. Hormones (influence on facial development too), overall well being, mental development etc. And then we wonder why we have a generation full of autism/depression and recession, look to the average diet in most countries now. It never fucking began.

 

[Deleted member 6423]

So I'm actually very familiar with this stuff and let me just say OP isn't bullshitting. Gut health is very important and it's not talked about enough for a couple reasons:

1. We're still only just barely discovering the tip of the iceberg when it comes to dietary knowledge and how it impacts health.

2. It is far more profitable for hospitals to push drugs and treat/perform operations on developed problems rather than encourage better lifestyle choices that are preventative and work more effectively.

I've had depression/anxiety/low energy for a large portion of the last 5 years despite eating what I thought was pretty healthy, being physically active, and even being in a relationship at one point. Doctors/therapy never did shit either. Only about 8 months ago I was able to actually go to and develop a treatment plan with a holistic doctor who's had a longgg career, and he actually started his own practice for much less money after working at one of the most reputable hospitals in the world because he was disgusted with how the medical community operated.

I got my blood levels checked. Had a food test done on me. And now I'm on a plan that involves me never eating refined carbs (I cheat now and then but 99% of the time I'm not) which are unbelievably bad for you, not eating dairy, taking multiple supplements a day like vitamin d, probiotics, magnesium, a thyroid medication, and a couple others. And I've never felt better in my life.

There are a lot of different factors that can lead to poor mental health or just feeling "off" but I always say again and again, the very first thing anyone here needs to do - even before looksmaxxing - if get your hormone/vitamins/minerals checked out for any deficiencies. Looksmaxxing is ultimately just a part of "lifestylemaxxing" and how can you even start to do that if you feel like shit all the time?

why no dairy

 

[Soalian]

I've set up a Microbiome stack, after months of research.

PM me if interested.

 

[Soalian]

Fluconazole - destroys candida within the gut
Oral BPC-157 - reduce gut permeability and enhance gut-brain axis
Intermittent fasting - helps starve bad bacteria
Remove all sugar from diet and only consume low amounts of carbohydrates (no gluten)
Probiotic enema - to clean and repopulate the microbiota in order to aid gut repair

Good stuff man.

Your stack is a good one I think; problem is, healing the gut is very individual, what may work for others, may throw you off-balance.

Fluconazole is one (effective) way to treat candida.

BPC-157 is heavy artillery for gut permeability issues. We have to make sure we eradicate mist pathogens before though, so that the gut terrain is good.

Fasting is always a good strategy, without overdoing it, and starving yourself.

Yes, sugar is a big no-no, for a healthy gut.

Gluten may not be the bad guy we originally thought it was; it may turn out, that the Fructans, and Gliadin, are the problems regarding gut permeability, when it comes to consuming Wheat.

Probiotic Enema might be good; I did it twice, to no noticeable effects. I also did ACV enemas, those seemed to give me for long-lasting benefits.



I'll add some interventions that worked for me, in a later comment to this thread.

 

[Deleted member 3635]

I've set up a Microbiome stack, after months of research.

PM me if interested.

how come ur only telling it in the PMS lol

 

[Soalian]

how come ur only telling it in the PMS lol

Because I don't give away everything lol.

 

[Soalian]

For keeping Candida in check, I did the following:



("Having Candida" is not a really recognized condition by practicioners; however there were a lot of markers that pointed to me having overgrown Candida, despite me writing it off for a long time).



- Diet (LHCF/No sugar)



- Lifestyle (Sleep/Exercise/Stress minimization)



- Make sure stomach acid levels are adequate (Betaine HCL may help)







1.) Reduce Candida population with antifungals:



Caprylic acid

Garlic extract (Allicin)

Berberine

Monolaurin

Oregano oil

Grapefruit seed oil

SF722



and other supplements:



Saccharomyces Boulardii

Saccharomyces Cerevisiae

Iodine

Niacin

NAC (Biofilms)







2.) Repopulate the gut with good bacteria:



Good, wide-range probiotic formulation (I like Pro-15 Hyperbiotics)



Goat Kefir (No dairy)/Milk Kefir (If you can have dairy)



Prebiotic fibers (I like the Potato starch/Inulin/GOS/Cacao powder/Psyllium shake)







3.) Heal gut permeability:



L-Glutamine

Collagen powder

NAG (N-acetyl-d-Glucosamine)

BPC-157 oral (3-week cycle)

Tofacitinib (Worked for me, but not recommended)

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

I read somewhere that probiotics are cope and how they have a temporary effect.
One advice I can give that has served me well:
for people with gut issues, starch should be minimally consumed or zero

 

[Deleted member 1464]

 

[Blackout.xl]

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[Michael]

Source for fluconazole if you can't get one in your shithole becouse jewish doctors won't prescribe it for you.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/fluka.html

It's called Fluka there, it's the same active ingredient, and you won't overpay.

 

[Deleted member 4410]

Why the fuck would you want to go LC just to clear the gut? I eat a "raw carrot salad" once a week and it works. You don't need some hardcore diet changes and retarded fasts. If natural stuff doesn't work then you have to get on antibiotics anyways.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Why the fuck would you want to go LC just to clear the gut? I eat a "raw carrot salad" once a week and it works. You don't need some hardcore diet changes and retarded fasts. If natural stuff doesn't work then you have to get on antibiotics anyways.

might be legit, although I would consume carrots and salad daily. Tbh carrots seem to really help with my skin, and the skin is known to reflect gut health

 

[DoctorPMA]

So I'm actually very familiar with this stuff and let me just say OP isn't bullshitting. Gut health is very important and it's not talked about enough for a couple reasons:

1. We're still only just barely discovering the tip of the iceberg when it comes to dietary knowledge and how it impacts health.

2. It is far more profitable for hospitals to push drugs and treat/perform operations on developed problems rather than encourage better lifestyle choices that are preventative and work more effectively.

I've had depression/anxiety/low energy for a large portion of the last 5 years despite eating what I thought was pretty healthy, being physically active, and even being in a relationship at one point. Doctors/therapy never did shit either. Only about 8 months ago I was able to actually go to and develop a treatment plan with a holistic doctor who's had a longgg career, and he actually started his own practice for much less money after working at one of the most reputable hospitals in the world because he was disgusted with how the medical community operated.

I got my blood levels checked. Had a food test done on me. And now I'm on a plan that involves me never eating refined carbs (I cheat now and then but 99% of the time I'm not) which are unbelievably bad for you, not eating dairy, taking multiple supplements a day like vitamin d, probiotics, magnesium, a thyroid medication, and a couple others. And I've never felt better in my life.

There are a lot of different factors that can lead to poor mental health or just feeling "off" but I always say again and again, the very first thing anyone here needs to do - even before looksmaxxing - if get your hormone/vitamins/minerals checked out for any deficiencies. Looksmaxxing is ultimately just a part of "lifestylemaxxing" and how can you even start to do that if you feel like shit all the time?

thanks for sharing this. What do you commonly eat on a daily? Also why no dairy? Dairy seems healthy no?

 

[Deleted member 6572]

thanks for sharing this. What do you commonly eat on a daily? Also why no dairy? Dairy seems healthy no?

Dairy is bad I ate some for the first time in forever feel like shit.

 

[JadedNormie]

Everything truly starts at your digestive system tbh. Hormones (influence on facial development too), overall well being, mental development etc. And then we wonder why we have a generation full of autism/depression and recession, look to the average diet in most countries now. It never fucking began.

My bones turned out okay and I grew up on a shit diet tbh

 

[Morpheus]

thanks for sharing this. What do you commonly eat on a daily? Also why no dairy? Dairy seems healthy no?

Most people develop dairy intolerance with age and I was one of them. I really don’t think as humans we’re meant to consume the liquid from cows. It’s kinda strange when you really think about it. It’s no surprise dairy is heavily associated with skin issues but it goes deeper than that and can be very inflammatory for many people and contribute to a bunch of other issues.

-Gluten free bagel with avocado
-Oatmeal
-Potatoes
-Lean grilled chicken
-Brown rice
-Plant protein shakes
-Various vegetables
-Lots of fruit
-Almonds and walnuts
-Chickpea pasta
-Fish
-Quinoa
-Granola
-Almond Butter (and sometimes peanut butter)
-Steak occasionally
-Gluten free chicken nuggets occasionally
-Sandwiches on gluten free bread

It’s really not difficult at all anymore to be honest. 10 years ago it would’ve been way harder to deal with but nowadays there are so many alternative options for people with restricted diets. And at first it’s difficult to drop all the processed carbs, dairy, and salty/sugary shit, but you’ll be surprised how quickly your taste palate adjusts. Your body becomes addicted to that stuff so the first week is the hardest and then it’s much easier.

I only have a harder time if I go on dates or I’m out with friends and they might not have the best food options to accommodate my diet. But most restaurants are pretty good about that now anyways. Really it’s just the stigma of being on a restricted diet that’s probably the most annoying thing to deal with because a lot of people roll their eyes at that, but fuck it, I don’t care. They’re filling their body with shit that’s gonna cost them in the long run and I don’t go out of my way to convert anyone else or even talk about it so that’s their problem.

 

[Soalian]

Source for fluconazole if you can't get one in your shithole becouse jewish doctors won't prescribe it for you.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/fluka.html

It's called Fluka there, it's the same active ingredient, and you won't overpay.

Also, add Curcumin and piperine, to Nystatin:

Curcumin acts synergistically with fluconazole to sensitize a clinical isolate of Candida albicans showing a MDR phenotype

Abstract. The primary objective of this work was to evaluate the capability of curcumin, a natural compound found in the Curcuma longa plant, to sensitize a cli

academic.oup.com

 

[Seth Walsh]

Also, add Curcumin and piperine, to Nystatin:

Curcumin acts synergistically with fluconazole to sensitize a clinical isolate of Candida albicans showing a MDR phenotype

Abstract. The primary objective of this work was to evaluate the capability of curcumin, a natural compound found in the Curcuma longa plant, to sensitize a cli

academic.oup.com

Careful with curcumin causing absorption problems with vit b1 though

 

[Summer]

Careful with curcumin causing absorption problems with vit b1 though

If we take a b1 supplement can we avoid this problems with differend types of other supplements

 

[Seth Walsh]

If we take a b1 supplement can we avoid this problems with differend types of other supplements

Benfotiamine is probably the best form of B1 but there's no need to take it. Curcumin can interfere with B1 absorption but only if you supplement it too frequently or too heavily. No need to supplement B1 or curcumin regularly imo. They're better used sporadically. Benfotiamine is the fat soluble form of B1 so it'll likely stay in your system longer than thiamin.

 

[Summer]

Benfotiamine is probably the best form of B1 but there's no need to take it. Curcumin can interfere with B1 absorption but only if you supplement it too frequently or too heavily. No need to supplement B1 or curcumin regularly imo. They're better used sporadically. Benfotiamine is the fat soluble form of B1 so it'll likely stay in your system longer than thiamin.

With other supplements i was reffering to berberine/metformin as well. For example if we were to take curcumin,berberine,tea we should supplement b1 fat soluble ED right?

 

[Summer]

@Seth Walsh why i cant pm you

 

[betamanlet]

I read somewhere that probiotics are cope and how they have a temporary effect.

This is because in most cases the bacteria aren't missing, they are just not being fed. For example, if you have overgrowth in the small intestine, not enough sugar will end up in the colon, which is where the beneficial fermentative bacteria reside. Thus their population will never thrive, and you will miss out on short chain fatty acids, vitamins and other goodies that the fermentative bacteria produce. For similar reason @Soalian did not experience a difference from probiotic enema: simply blasting the colon with beneficial bacteria doesn't do much -- the bacteria already are there, they just need to be fed. A honey or a resistant starch enema might be more beneficial, since these are what the beneficial bacteria actually feed on.

 

[diggbicc]

This is because in most cases the bacteria aren't missing, they are just not being fed. For example, if you have overgrowth in the small intestine, not enough sugar will end up in the colon, which is where the beneficial fermentative bacteria reside. Thus their population will never thrive, and you will miss out on short chain fatty acids, vitamins and other goodies that the fermentative bacteria produce. For similar reason @Soalian did not experience a difference from probiotic enema: simply blasting the colon with beneficial bacteria doesn't do much -- the bacteria already are there, they just need to be fed. A honey or a resistant starch enema might be more beneficial, since these are what the beneficial bacteria actually feed on.

Make a thread on restoring the optimal bacterial profile/ feeding the different types optimally

 

[betamanlet]

Make a thread on restoring the optimal bacterial profile/ feeding the different types optimally

People dedicate their whole lives to that kind thing, my knowledge is just surface level bits here and there. The best I can do is make you aware of regimens that people smarter than me have come up with. The milk diet for example is something that has been used successfully for centuries. Why it works is that lactose takes about 4x longer to digest than other forms of sugar, which is why it's more likely to end up in the colon and feed the beneficial bacteria down there. Here's the book: http://milk-diet.com/classics/macfadden/macfaddenmain.html

 

[Deleted member 3902]

Fam make a tl dr with what to take and do to get your gut 100% Clean
And what to take to make its production with serotine Testosteron etc peak pls

 

[Summer]

This is because in most cases the bacteria aren't missing, they are just not being fed. For example, if you have overgrowth in the small intestine, not enough sugar will end up in the colon, which is where the beneficial fermentative bacteria reside. Thus their population will never thrive, and you will miss out on short chain fatty acids, vitamins and other goodies that the fermentative bacteria produce. For similar reason @Soalian did not experience a difference from probiotic enema: simply blasting the colon with beneficial bacteria doesn't do much -- the bacteria already are there, they just need to be fed. A honey or a resistant starch enema might be more beneficial, since these are what the beneficial bacteria actually feed on.

So you tell me if i put honey, yogurt and butter in my bum i will feel better ?

 

[betamanlet]

So you tell me if i put honey, yogurt and butter in my bum i will feel better ?

Ha, I would start with honey dissolved in warm water first, since that's SIGNIFICANTLY less nasty than injecting yogurt in your rectum.