How to properly use GHK-Cu

[Devon]

For my motive:

Here's a clear cost comparison between Red Light Therapy (RLT) and GHK-Cu injections, over time:

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1. Red Light Therapy (RLT) — One-time investment, minimal upkeep​

Item	Approximate Cost
High-quality RLT panel (like Hooga, PlatinumLED, Mito, etc.)	$200–$600 (once)
Lifespan	5–10 years
Daily use cost	$0 (just electricity, negligible)
Supporting nutrients (vitamin C, glycine, collagen, copper)	~$20–40/month (if not already in diet)

Monthly cost over 3 years:

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2. GHK-Cu Injections — High, recurring costs​

Item	Approximate Cost
GHK-Cu peptide (injectable)	$100–$250/month (depending on source & dose)
Syringes, alcohol wipes	~$10/month
Possible doctor visits (if supervised)	$0–$100 extra
Nutrients (if taken with injections)	~$20–40/month

Monthly cost:

---

Cost Comparison Summary​

Feature	RLT	GHK-Cu Injections
Upfront cost	Medium	Low
Ongoing cost	Very low	High recurring
3-year cost estimate	~$200–$600 total	$4,000–$9,000 total
Cost-efficiency	Excellent	Expensive long-term

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Verdict:​

(Glycin, Copper and Vitamin C are cheap as fuck btw)

 

[Mrinfinityx]

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Are u trying to say that i am coping ?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

great skin, but this show very well how much of a cope skinmaxxing really is. if anything, you just look gay to the untrained eye.

Tretinoin glow is ugly as fuck for real

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Are u trying to say that i am coping ?

He’s saying you’re using gpt.

Tretinoin glow is ugly as fuck for real

glow skin is such a looksmin.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

He’s saying you’re using gpt.

glow skin is such a looksmin.

I use Perplexity habitually but i was lazy I am sorry

 

[Deleted member 155538]

wont there be bacterial growth in the reconstituted peptide since pbs doesnt have benzyl alcohol?

 

[Azie555]

For my motive:

Here's a clear cost comparison between Red Light Therapy (RLT) and GHK-Cu injections, over time:

---

1. Red Light Therapy (RLT) — One-time investment, minimal upkeep​

Item	Approximate Cost
High-quality RLT panel (like Hooga, PlatinumLED, Mito, etc.)	$200–$600 (once)
Lifespan	5–10 years
Daily use cost	$0 (just electricity, negligible)
Supporting nutrients (vitamin C, glycine, collagen, copper)	~$20–40/month (if not already in diet)

Monthly cost over 3 years:

---

2. GHK-Cu Injections — High, recurring costs​

Item	Approximate Cost
GHK-Cu peptide (injectable)	$100–$250/month (depending on source & dose)
Syringes, alcohol wipes	~$10/month
Possible doctor visits (if supervised)	$0–$100 extra
Nutrients (if taken with injections)	~$20–40/month

Monthly cost:

---

Cost Comparison Summary​

Feature	RLT	GHK-Cu Injections
Upfront cost	Medium	Low
Ongoing cost	Very low	High recurring
3-year cost estimate	~$200–$600 total	$4,000–$9,000 total
Cost-efficiency	Excellent	Expensive long-term

---

Verdict:​

(Glycin, Copper and Vitamin C are cheap as fuck btw)

make this a thread

 

[Deleted member 138051]

make this a thread

It’s chat GPT if you didn’t notice.

Great thread OP, even tho I doubt you will even see this.

 

[Azie555]

It’s chat GPT if you didn’t notice.

Great thread OP, even tho I doubt you will even see this.

yeah its gpt made but its facts right red light therapy is better and its just one time. Ima do it

 

[JerichoTorrent]

Mirin high iq thread but since PBS doesn't prevent bacterial growth it will only last a day or two max. So I guess that means you'd essentially have to get a bunch of tiny PBS vials and constitute single use vials each time, so here we go having 100 fucking vials of each in the mini fridge. My brain is not comprehending the smart way to do this. If you get say, a 50mg vial of GHK-CU and get a vial of PBS, how in the wet fuck are you going to properly reconstitute it if the shit only lasts a day?

 

[Oliver12]

GHK-Cu, on paper, seems to be the single best looksmaxxing compound there is (perfect skin, anti-aging, surgery recovery, neurogenesis⁹,¹¹ etc)¹, yet no one seems to be reaping any of its benefits. What’s even more bizarre is that injection-related pain is massively reported, more consistently so than its supposed benefits².

Quickly, Glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine (GHK) is a tripeptide isolated from human plasma³, which possesses a high affinity for copper (II) ions, with which it spontaneously forms a complex (GHK-Cu). GHK alone has been shown to be responsible for the collagen boost⁴ and no injection-related pain has been reported with it⁵, so go for it if you want but it's the added copper that is responsible for this myriad of blessings;

EXAMPLES :
The complex, unlike GHK alone, helps activate matrix metalloproteinases, which break down damaged tissue so it can be replaced with healthy tissue⁶.

View attachment 3275853

OR

Compositions of copper (II) containing compounds have been show to accelerate the healing of wounds in warm-blooded animals, and more specifically the systemic loading of copper (II) compounds to accelerate the rate of wound healing following injury or surgery to warm-blooded animals.⁷

View attachment 3275859


; ...and consequently what seems to cause tissue damage during injection.


If we look at the cayman chemicals reviews of the molecules in question :


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The main differences are the addition of a copper atom and a significantly worse solubility profile, which suggests a causal relationship between these two differences (meaning that the added copper induces the worse solubility).

In fact, we know that metals are gay

Spoiler: Gay

Gay meaning they have different bonding properties vs carbon, oxygen, etc (this whole field of gay metals is “inorganic chemistry”) The reason for this is that metals basically have up to ten relevant electrons , which have comically complex geometries, are much larger (radius) and less bound to the nucelus

View attachment 3275870

Simply, they like to move a lot, they're playful building blocks that like to change and mix , while other atoms are stronger and stick together better, other atoms, like those in water or air, are like super strong blocks that hold together really well. They don’t like to change as much, so they are usually more stable.




Seriously, metals require ions to stabilize in various contexts, primarily due to their tendency to lose electrons and form positive charges, the ions in PBS can neutralize the positive charge of the copper ions, reducing the likelihood of oxidation or other reactions that would destabilize the copper. PBS also maintains a stable pH, which is important for keeping copper in its soluble form. In bac water or regular saline, changes in pH can lead to precipitation or oxidation of copper ions. (5 to 7 for bac and reg saline vs 7.2 to 7.4 for Phosphate Buffered Saline)

Hence why GHK-Cu needs PBS (again because the ionic solution (has a lot of ions) stabilizes the added copper), otherwise the copper-nitrogen bonds are likely to break.
View attachment 3276079


The common folk seems to be dissolving GHK-Cu in Bac Water since that is the usual commercially available and promoted solvent for peptides².
However, Bac Water has a lower ion concentration than PBS (which makes the copper less likely to be stable), I hypothesize that the pain comes from the free copper atoms raping your tissues (not fully understood).

View attachment 3275864

Injection solutions :

Phosphate Buffered Saline :

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1172/JCI116842

View attachment 3275998

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jor.22831

View attachment 3276003

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1046/j.1523-1747.1999.00606.x

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i.e. what is mostly used in studies and what is recommended by CaymanChem

Making PBS at home looks annoying af so just fucking buy it : https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/d8537

WORKS AND STABLE



Normale saline (0.9% saline) :

https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/37163377/Massey_Patt_Aoust_The_Effect_of_GHK-Cu_on_the_Healing_of_Diabet_Ulcers_A_Pilot_Sutyd_WOUNDS_4_21-28_1992-libre.PDF?1427753974=&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B+filename%3DMassey_Patt_Aoust_The_Effect_of_GHK_Cu_o.pdf&Expires=1730648621&Signature=bEi6x2QXzs~nLvVNqdEnYmv7~ruaYJ3wGxGnHPUBnbcUmupFy9OMJu7w2M8FOsNd6ksfpzr4TNj-7184G5MT1rk224QmlJ37S6yYnjzsLTWhqjIZqtcp~Lsf6Qy~xxDEnhMbmh~DjIE891q1xoUH4l6V73w5kDgB3C-e~V06E1gnd9vJi0sdDLj5Eo0gGSVBWxV3fF2IF7cfHo9l36YXHJgRoFpOyyYKZjlF3rN-dWJ6C7VRRq8iAz8YgtCExeNyzDJA0l0HYIjE5xS65171U10rPPBRcZ5aOFzhieuFk7awwfSbKg5COwUvLmUzf9RyiTSZKci8BhSDDSbQYj6h-A__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

Direct on-site injection tho

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View attachment 3276018View attachment 3276019

WORKS BUT THEORETICALLY NOT STABLE, since the PH will be too low

You'd need to adjsut it yourself⁷

View attachment 3276064

BAC WATER :

DOESN'T WORK (YOU ONLY GET GHK AND INJECTION SITE DAMAGE)²




Topical :

Topical formulations of GHKcu have been developed and are effective

BetTar:

The best one (both low-cost, most effective and most stable) being Bet Tar which is a recent (2023) chinese developped ionic-liquid-based delivery vehicle composed of betaine and tartaric acid

View attachment 3276085

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Stable as fuck :
View attachment 3276087

PDI is dispersity

I will be attaching the papers⁸ in case President Xi takes them down

Hyaluronic acid-based hydrogel embedded with GHK peptide nanofibers : ( )

Works af for direct wound healing

In situ photo-crosslinkable hyaluronic acid-based hydrogel embedded with GHK peptide nanofibers for bioactive wound healing

A versatile hydrogel was developed for enhancing bioactive wound healing by introducing the amphiphilic GHK peptide (GHK-C16) into a photo-crosslinkab…

www.sciencedirect.com

View attachment 3276113

YES BRO I WILL TOTALLY MAKE THIS jfl

View attachment 3276114


THERE ARE 8 BILLION GOOD TOPICAL ways but WE CAN NOT MAKE/BUY any of these

This was good for wound closure but go figure how they made it

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1046/j.1524-475X.1994.20406.x

View attachment 3276058View attachment 3276117

Concering DMSO :

IT DOESN'T WORK (IT'S EVEN LESS STABLE THAN BAC WATER since it has less ions (water (bac water) has H+ and OH- (water)))

These niggas tried to study its structure while dissolving it in DMSO¹⁰ : https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/0162-0134(89)84011-5, which gave them completly retarded results "under their conditions"

Metals in general seem to be struggling in DMSO
View attachment 3276159

Goodluck rabbitholemaxxing this

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/j.ccr.2004.02.005

TLDR :



- RECONSTITUTE GHK-Cu IN PBS or DPBS (which you can buy) and inject it daily

- BUY and RECONSTITUTE GHK IN BAC WATER IF YOU ONLY WANT COLLAGEN BOOST AND EASE OF USE and inject it daily

- TRY TO MAKE a [Bet] [Tar] GHK-Cu Topical Liquid Solution, if you want, for when you can't inject or as first-aid

Spoiler: Tags

@Hexmask @N1666 @Clavicular @NorwoodAscender @meathead

¹Pickart, L., & Margolina, A. (2018). Regenerative and protective actions of the GHK-Cu peptide in the light of the new gene data. International Journal of Molecular Sciences, 19(7), https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6073405/pdf/ijms-19-01987.pdf
²
³Pickart L, Thaler MM. Tripeptide in human serum which prolongs survival of normal liver cells and stimulates growth in neoplastic liver. Nat New Biol. 1973 May 16;243(124):85-7. PMID: 4349963.
⁴Maquart, F.-X., Pickart, L., Laurent, M., Gillery, P., Monboisse, J.-C., & Borel, J.-P. (1988). Stimulation of collagen synthesis in fibroblast cultures by the tripeptide-copper complex glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine-Cu²⁺. Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications, 238(2), 343-346. https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/0014-5793(88)80509-X
⁵ Google it and add Reddit and various forums to the key-words
⁶Siméon, A., Emonard, H., Hornebeck, W., & Maquart, F.-X. (2000). The tripeptide-copper complex glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine-Cu²⁺ stimulates matrix metalloproteinase-2 expression by fibroblast cultures. Life Sciences, 67(20), 2257-2265. https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/S0024-3205(00)00803-1
⁷ Pickart, L. R. (1992). Method of using copper(II) containing compounds to accelerate wound healing (U.S. Patent No. 5164367). U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/c1/c7/6fb3bbcf61becb/US5164367.pdf
⁸Liu, T., Hu, L., Lu, B., Bo, Y., Liao, Y., Zhan, J., Pei, Y., Sun, H., Wang, Z., Guo, C., & Zhang, J. (2023). A novel delivery vehicle for copper peptides. New Journal of Chemistry https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2023/nj/d2nj04282g#fn1
⁹L. Pickart, in BioIogy of Copper Complexes, J. R. C. Sorenson, Ed., Human Press, Clifton, NJ, 1987, pp. 273-285 (https://library.lol/main/04A4B0236383B58B30E1AF569542355F), neurogenesis also mentionned here¹⁰
¹⁰Antholine, W. E., Petering, D. H., & Pickart, L. (1989). ESR studies of the interaction of copper(II) GHK, histidine, and Ehrlich cells. Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, 35(2), U-224
¹¹Pickart, L., Vasquez-Soltero, J. M., & Margolina, A. (2012). The human tripeptide GHK-Cu in prevention of oxidative stress and degenerative conditions of aging: Implications for cognitive health. Oxidative Medicine and Cellular Longevity, 2012, Article ID 324832. https://doi.org/10.1155/2012/324832

no way i just read allat

 

[ascensionneeeded]

GHK-Cu, on paper, seems to be the single best looksmaxxing compound there is (perfect skin, anti-aging, surgery recovery, neurogenesis⁹,¹¹ etc)¹, yet no one seems to be reaping any of its benefits. What’s even more bizarre is that injection-related pain is massively reported, more consistently so than its supposed benefits².

Quickly, Glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine (GHK) is a tripeptide isolated from human plasma³, which possesses a high affinity for copper (II) ions, with which it spontaneously forms a complex (GHK-Cu). GHK alone has been shown to be responsible for the collagen boost⁴ and no injection-related pain has been reported with it⁵, so go for it if you want but it's the added copper that is responsible for this myriad of blessings;

EXAMPLES :
The complex, unlike GHK alone, helps activate matrix metalloproteinases, which break down damaged tissue so it can be replaced with healthy tissue⁶.

View attachment 3275853

OR

Compositions of copper (II) containing compounds have been show to accelerate the healing of wounds in warm-blooded animals, and more specifically the systemic loading of copper (II) compounds to accelerate the rate of wound healing following injury or surgery to warm-blooded animals.⁷

View attachment 3275859


; ...and consequently what seems to cause tissue damage during injection.


If we look at the cayman chemicals reviews of the molecules in question :


View attachment 3275820View attachment 3275821


The main differences are the addition of a copper atom and a significantly worse solubility profile, which suggests a causal relationship between these two differences (meaning that the added copper induces the worse solubility).

In fact, we know that metals are gay

Spoiler: Gay

Gay meaning they have different bonding properties vs carbon, oxygen, etc (this whole field of gay metals is “inorganic chemistry”) The reason for this is that metals basically have up to ten relevant electrons , which have comically complex geometries, are much larger (radius) and less bound to the nucelus

View attachment 3275870

Simply, they like to move a lot, they're playful building blocks that like to change and mix , while other atoms are stronger and stick together better, other atoms, like those in water or air, are like super strong blocks that hold together really well. They don’t like to change as much, so they are usually more stable.




Seriously, metals require ions to stabilize in various contexts, primarily due to their tendency to lose electrons and form positive charges, the ions in PBS can neutralize the positive charge of the copper ions, reducing the likelihood of oxidation or other reactions that would destabilize the copper. PBS also maintains a stable pH, which is important for keeping copper in its soluble form. In bac water or regular saline, changes in pH can lead to precipitation or oxidation of copper ions. (5 to 7 for bac and reg saline vs 7.2 to 7.4 for Phosphate Buffered Saline)

Hence why GHK-Cu needs PBS (again because the ionic solution (has a lot of ions) stabilizes the added copper), otherwise the copper-nitrogen bonds are likely to break.
View attachment 3276079


The common folk seems to be dissolving GHK-Cu in Bac Water since that is the usual commercially available and promoted solvent for peptides².
However, Bac Water has a lower ion concentration than PBS (which makes the copper less likely to be stable), I hypothesize that the pain comes from the free copper atoms raping your tissues (not fully understood).

View attachment 3275864

Injection solutions :

Phosphate Buffered Saline :

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1172/JCI116842

View attachment 3275998

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jor.22831

View attachment 3276003

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1046/j.1523-1747.1999.00606.x

View attachment 3276026


i.e. what is mostly used in studies and what is recommended by CaymanChem

Making PBS at home looks annoying af so just fucking buy it : https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/d8537

WORKS AND STABLE



Normale saline (0.9% saline) :

https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/37163377/Massey_Patt_Aoust_The_Effect_of_GHK-Cu_on_the_Healing_of_Diabet_Ulcers_A_Pilot_Sutyd_WOUNDS_4_21-28_1992-libre.PDF?1427753974=&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B+filename%3DMassey_Patt_Aoust_The_Effect_of_GHK_Cu_o.pdf&Expires=1730648621&Signature=bEi6x2QXzs~nLvVNqdEnYmv7~ruaYJ3wGxGnHPUBnbcUmupFy9OMJu7w2M8FOsNd6ksfpzr4TNj-7184G5MT1rk224QmlJ37S6yYnjzsLTWhqjIZqtcp~Lsf6Qy~xxDEnhMbmh~DjIE891q1xoUH4l6V73w5kDgB3C-e~V06E1gnd9vJi0sdDLj5Eo0gGSVBWxV3fF2IF7cfHo9l36YXHJgRoFpOyyYKZjlF3rN-dWJ6C7VRRq8iAz8YgtCExeNyzDJA0l0HYIjE5xS65171U10rPPBRcZ5aOFzhieuFk7awwfSbKg5COwUvLmUzf9RyiTSZKci8BhSDDSbQYj6h-A__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

Direct on-site injection tho

View attachment 3276031


View attachment 3276018View attachment 3276019

WORKS BUT THEORETICALLY NOT STABLE, since the PH will be too low

You'd need to adjsut it yourself⁷

View attachment 3276064

BAC WATER :

DOESN'T WORK (YOU ONLY GET GHK AND INJECTION SITE DAMAGE)²




Topical :

Topical formulations of GHKcu have been developed and are effective

BetTar:

The best one (both low-cost, most effective and most stable) being Bet Tar which is a recent (2023) chinese developped ionic-liquid-based delivery vehicle composed of betaine and tartaric acid

View attachment 3276085

View attachment 3276086
View attachment 3276090

Stable as fuck :
View attachment 3276087

PDI is dispersity

I will be attaching the papers⁸ in case President Xi takes them down

Hyaluronic acid-based hydrogel embedded with GHK peptide nanofibers : ( )

Works af for direct wound healing

In situ photo-crosslinkable hyaluronic acid-based hydrogel embedded with GHK peptide nanofibers for bioactive wound healing

A versatile hydrogel was developed for enhancing bioactive wound healing by introducing the amphiphilic GHK peptide (GHK-C16) into a photo-crosslinkab…

www.sciencedirect.com

View attachment 3276113

YES BRO I WILL TOTALLY MAKE THIS jfl

View attachment 3276114


THERE ARE 8 BILLION GOOD TOPICAL ways but WE CAN NOT MAKE/BUY any of these

This was good for wound closure but go figure how they made it

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1046/j.1524-475X.1994.20406.x

View attachment 3276058View attachment 3276117

Concering DMSO :

IT DOESN'T WORK (IT'S EVEN LESS STABLE THAN BAC WATER since it has less ions (water (bac water) has H+ and OH- (water)))

These niggas tried to study its structure while dissolving it in DMSO¹⁰ : https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/0162-0134(89)84011-5, which gave them completly retarded results "under their conditions"

Metals in general seem to be struggling in DMSO
View attachment 3276159

Goodluck rabbitholemaxxing this

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/j.ccr.2004.02.005

TLDR :



- RECONSTITUTE GHK-Cu IN PBS or DPBS (which you can buy) and inject it daily

- BUY and RECONSTITUTE GHK IN BAC WATER IF YOU ONLY WANT COLLAGEN BOOST AND EASE OF USE and inject it daily

- TRY TO MAKE a [Bet] [Tar] GHK-Cu Topical Liquid Solution, if you want, for when you can't inject or as first-aid

Spoiler: Tags

@Hexmask @N1666 @Clavicular @NorwoodAscender @meathead

¹Pickart, L., & Margolina, A. (2018). Regenerative and protective actions of the GHK-Cu peptide in the light of the new gene data. International Journal of Molecular Sciences, 19(7), https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6073405/pdf/ijms-19-01987.pdf
²
³Pickart L, Thaler MM. Tripeptide in human serum which prolongs survival of normal liver cells and stimulates growth in neoplastic liver. Nat New Biol. 1973 May 16;243(124):85-7. PMID: 4349963.
⁴Maquart, F.-X., Pickart, L., Laurent, M., Gillery, P., Monboisse, J.-C., & Borel, J.-P. (1988). Stimulation of collagen synthesis in fibroblast cultures by the tripeptide-copper complex glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine-Cu²⁺. Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications, 238(2), 343-346. https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/0014-5793(88)80509-X
⁵ Google it and add Reddit and various forums to the key-words
⁶Siméon, A., Emonard, H., Hornebeck, W., & Maquart, F.-X. (2000). The tripeptide-copper complex glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine-Cu²⁺ stimulates matrix metalloproteinase-2 expression by fibroblast cultures. Life Sciences, 67(20), 2257-2265. https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/S0024-3205(00)00803-1
⁷ Pickart, L. R. (1992). Method of using copper(II) containing compounds to accelerate wound healing (U.S. Patent No. 5164367). U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/c1/c7/6fb3bbcf61becb/US5164367.pdf
⁸Liu, T., Hu, L., Lu, B., Bo, Y., Liao, Y., Zhan, J., Pei, Y., Sun, H., Wang, Z., Guo, C., & Zhang, J. (2023). A novel delivery vehicle for copper peptides. New Journal of Chemistry https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2023/nj/d2nj04282g#fn1
⁹L. Pickart, in BioIogy of Copper Complexes, J. R. C. Sorenson, Ed., Human Press, Clifton, NJ, 1987, pp. 273-285 (https://library.lol/main/04A4B0236383B58B30E1AF569542355F), neurogenesis also mentionned here¹⁰
¹⁰Antholine, W. E., Petering, D. H., & Pickart, L. (1989). ESR studies of the interaction of copper(II) GHK, histidine, and Ehrlich cells. Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, 35(2), U-224
¹¹Pickart, L., Vasquez-Soltero, J. M., & Margolina, A. (2012). The human tripeptide GHK-Cu in prevention of oxidative stress and degenerative conditions of aging: Implications for cognitive health. Oxidative Medicine and Cellular Longevity, 2012, Article ID 324832. https://doi.org/10.1155/2012/324832

wtf is stopping me from just buying a GHK-CU concentrated powder and then dissolving 200mg in sterile water and keeping in tbe
fridge?

 

[C3PO]

And ghkcu totally kills your IGF1 which is unfortunate

How brah

 

[C3PO]

wtf is stopping me from just buying a GHK-CU concentrated powder and then dissolving 200mg in sterile water and keeping in tbe
fridge?

Nothing, do it

 

[ascensionneeeded]

Nothing, do it

i mean reconstituting it and then transferring it into a dropper bottle and applying topically

 

[ReturnOfTheBO2Cel]

guys when using the PBS link, it shows I need to use a company name how do yall avoid that shit

 

[johnnyy]

Blah blah someone send topical source

 

[Wasting_my_life]

RECONSTITUTE GHK-Cu IN PBS or DPBS (which you can buy) and inject it daily

Isn’t GHK-Cu beneficial only when injected directly on site?

Meaning, if you want facial collagen boost, you should inject in face (not great)

 

[Kiril Velev]

This is genuinely the best post in BOTB I've seen

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Isn’t GHK-Cu beneficial only when injected directly on site?

Meaning, if you want facial collagen boost, you should inject in face (not great)

No

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

No

Thoughts on the pbs only theorem.

I think its meme tbh

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Thoughts on the pbs only theorem.

I think its meme tbh

I do it with PBS for now, thinking about switching to bac.

Idk what’s better honestly atp

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I do it with PBS for now, thinking about switching to bac.

Idk what’s better honestly atp

Have you gotten any sort of pain using pbs?

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Have you gotten any sort of pain using pbs?

Very little PIP, not something unbearable.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Very little PIP, not something unbearable.

If you got pain using pbs it kindof destroys the free copper ions theorem aswell tbh

But thanks. I just wanted a new line of evidence as I read a study outlining this:
"No detectable degradation at pH 5.5 and 7.4; stable at pH 4.5 as part of the broader range (pH 4.5–7.4)"

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Have you gotten any sort of pain using pbs?

Also I’m still a teen, I don’t need to max GHK-ch efffects out of it since my collagen is already fine, so I will be switching to bac soon since it’s easier for me to get.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Also I’m still a teen, I don’t need to max GHK-ch efffects out of it since my collagen is already fine, so I will be switching to bac soon since it’s easier for me to get.

You planning on using any retinoids in the future?

Theyre the most bang for your buck imo

 

[Deleted member 110192]

If you got pain using pbs it kindof destroys the free copper ions theorem aswell tbh

But thanks. I just wanted a new line of evidence as I read a study outlining this:
"No detectable degradation at pH 5.5 and 7.4; stable at pH 4.5 as part of the broader range (pH 4.5–7.4)"

Yes, the thread Jonas made is kinda theoretical

 

[nosemaxxing]

Also I’m still a teen, I don’t need to max GHK-ch efffects out of it since my collagen is already fine, so I will be switching to bac soon since it’s easier for me to get.

You used none of these chemicals

 

[Deleted member 110192]

You planning on using any retinoids?

Theyre the most bang for your buck imo

I’m on Taz right now

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I’m on Taz right now

Mirin, i wanna get back on taz. But everytime I try i get fucked cause already running accutane

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Mirin, i wanna get back on taz. But everytime I try i get fucked cause already running accutane

Why would you try a topical retinoid and a oral one at the same time nigg

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Hey would you try a topical retinoid and a oral one at the same time nigg

Accutane in the beginning has no benefits to even negative effect on total collagen synthesis.

What it does is help remodeling your skin in to a better structure though or something.

But id rather be using both than just one. Could quite possibly be synergistic

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Accutane in the beginning has no benefits to even negative effect on total collagen synthesis.

What it does is help remodeling your skin in to a better structure though or something.

But id rather be using both than just one. Could quite possibly be synergistic

Both will rape you. Tbh cruising 15 mg accutane is great if your acne is mild-minimal, you don’t need ti add any topical retinoid.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Both will rape you. Tbh cruising 15 mg accutane is great if your acne is mild-minimal, you don’t need ti add any topical retinoid.

I cant roll with that pussy ass shit.

60mg or death

 

[Deleted member 110192]

I cant roll with that pussy ass shit.

60mg or death

Your acne is bad?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Your acne is bad?

Not anymore, no

Now its minimal. Only like the post inflammatory bumps left

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Not anymore, no

Now its minimal. Only like the post inflammatory bumps left
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What dose are you on? Tbh just cruise it at 15-20 mg and do IPL laser to get that smooth skin look.

 

[Wasting_my_life]

No

Wrong answer, for collagen & hair boost its topical only

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

What dose are you on? Tbh just cruise it at 15-20 mg

60mg tbh

and do IPL laser to get that smooth skin look.

Thats expensive as fuck tbh.

Could I not just dermastamp to fix the scarring or is ipl law

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Wrong answer, for collagen & hair boost its topical only

Wdym? Injectable GHK-cu is also for hair boost and collagen

 

[Deleted member 110192]

60mg tbh

mirin

Thats expensive as fuck tbh.

Could I not just dermastamp to fix the scarring or is ipl law

not really that expensive, you could get your own device with 100$

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

mirin

not really that expensive, you could get your own device with 100$

Bonestack takes first prio in the queue tbh

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Bonestack takes first prio in the queue tbh

 

[Wasting_my_life]

Wdym? Injectable GHK-cu is also for hair boost and collagen

No its not, it has a very short half life, systemic effects are weak and unless you inject it directly in the face and/or use it for Microneedling, you will see no changes in your face (skin quality, wrinkles, collagen, etc)

 

[SlayerJonas]

If you got pain using pbs it kindof destroys the free copper ions theorem aswell tbh

But thanks. I just wanted a new line of evidence as I read a study outlining this:
"No detectable degradation at pH 5.5 and 7.4; stable at pH 4.5 as part of the broader range (pH 4.5–7.4)"

It's funny that you mention that because I debunked it in my thread you viewed exactly before posting this reply.

@chadisbeingmade @imontheloose

 

[chadisbeingmade]

It's funny that you mention that because I debunked it in my thread you viewed exactly before posting this reply.

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@chadisbeingmade @imontheloose

Usher confessions maxxing

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

It's funny that you mention that because I debunked it in my thread you viewed exactly before posting this reply.

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@chadisbeingmade @imontheloose

Wasnt the premise that the low ph nuked the ions?

 

[Seth Walsh]

Juniors talking about GHK-cu ^^

 

[Deleted member 110192]

No its not, it has a very short half life, systemic effects are weak and unless you inject it directly in the face and/or use it for Microneedling, you will see no changes in your face (skin quality, wrinkles, collagen, etc)

I’m pretty sure that even if it’s half life is short the benefits of it like hair growth and collagen boost will last longer because of the changes in gene expression.

Also that’s why you should inject it twice a day ED.