I don't fucking get it. Another Tinder failure.

Yes but the other 100 have been about you anally fucking a virgin, getting blown left and right, sluts begging for your cock, making out with Stacies of all ethnicities jfl dude come on, you fuck more than a pornstar

What can I tell you, I'm not lying. I have all dates and shit recorded in my spreadsheet. My standards are low though
 
Its a shit test and u failed. She wanted to be taken by you with no concern for what she wants (female ultimate fantasy is rape), so she tried to create that situation because she was turned on by you up to that point.

This.

Moronic Zoomer fails basic shit-test by girl who was sold MOSTLY on his character/personality/charisma.

Not saying she wasn't attracted to you. Of course she was, but you were boyfriend material. A guy that's kinda good looking and good to hang out with. Girls will not slut themselves for anyone that's below Chad. That's not anything to be ashamed off. It's purely a case of their sexual hormone is significantly weaker than ours and they can avoid the temptation of sex. If you are super sexy and incredibly dimorphic then you can tap into their sexual hormones and they won't resist you, but that's not you. So you should have just continued to enjoy making out with her and waited for her to escalate. As you did your part and she pulled-back. Enjoy the makeout session now. You don't need to have sex with her. If she's flowing with your personality and presence and enjoying your time, that means eventually she'll put her hands down your pants and feel your girth, squashing it. That's way more passionate anyway. Too many morons say go in for the kill straight away. It can't always work like that. Especially if you're normie only decent looking. You tried, she pulled back and essentially sad too-soon and you tried again. Even then she only pulled-back and didn't want to leave. You were the one that thought you'd do this whole masculine red-pill stoic alpha male pretence and fuck yourself in the ass.

All good. It's a learning experience.

Moral of the story: No girl wants to FEEL like a slut, even if she is one. Not that this one was.
 
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Girls will not slut themselves for anyone that's below Chad.

If you are super sexy and incredibly dimorphic then you can tap into their sexual hormones and they won't resist you, but that's not you.

Especially if you're normie only decent looking.

Yeah you're completely right but I cannot get my mind to accept that. I've made this "mistake" over and over again and I will keep making it. I just know that she would have fucked Chad. I just know that if she found me hotter she would have fucked me.

I don't want to be a second choice. I don't want to be boyfriend material. I either want a girl to turn into a slut for me or nothing. I can't imagine having to "work" for a girl that Chad can fuck in 10 minutes. I just can't accept it.
 
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What can I tell you, I'm not lying. I have all dates and shit recorded in my spreadsheet. My standards are low though
Stats (rating of face, phenotype, physique,age)?
 
Yeah you're completely right but I cannot get my mind to accept that. I've made this "mistake" over and over again and I will keep making it. I just know that she would have fucked Chad. I just know that if she found me hotter she would have fucked me.

I don't want to be a second choice. I don't want to be boyfriend material. I either want a girl to turn into a slut for me or nothing. I can't imagine having to "work" for a girl that Chad can fuck in 10 minutes. I just can't accept it.

She would have fucked a Chad you are right, but if you were not a Generation Zoomer and hadn't been Black Pilled you would have dated her a couple of times and fucked it.

Chad is abnormal. Chad is special. Chad is 2 in every 10 guys. If not more. It's ok to be in the 40th percentile and closer to average but still attractive. It's ok.

What are you gonna do then? Cry and make threads about how unfair it is? It's reality bro and it's nature. Their estrogen and everything is more easily drawn to Chad. They're drawn you and I too but they want something further to impress them with as well. That's fine.

Unless you're gonna get a defining surgery to upgrade your looks from a 6/10 to an 8/10 you should not and cannot concern yourself over this.

So either do something or let this sort of shit slide from now on. You went in there and flowed. You evidently had charisma. Send me your picture(s) also. I never doxx. I've seen several anonymous guys on here who people are dying to look at and never doxxed them.
 
She would have fucked a Chad you are right, but if you were not a Generation Zoomer and hadn't been Black Pilled you would have dated her a couple of times and fucked it.

True, but I feel like that once you are blackpilled you cannot really go back. It's always going to be in your head. At least, that's how it is for me.

Yes, I could play it slow, play normie games, and eventually fuck the girl. But then I realize Chad doesn't have to do any of that shit, and she's gonna guzzle down his cum while I feel like I'm trying to lockpick her fucking legs open.

I hate that. It is going to upset me, always. I don't see how I can stop thinking about it.

What are you gonna do then? Cry and make threads about how unfair it is? It's reality bro and it's nature. Their estrogen and everything is more easily drawn to Chad.

Good point. There is nothing I can do except (1) fix my mindset or (2) somehow become Chad. I feel like (1) is almost impossible because the blackpill is ingrained in my head very deeply. I also feel like (2) is impossible because my genes are simply not good enough. I'm 5'6", average dick, average face. I'm just as normie as it gets.

They're drawn you and I too but they want something further to impress them with as well. That's fine.

But that's exactly what pisses me off. That I have to do something more that someone else doesn't have to. That I have to be the one "seducing" her over the course of 2-3 dates, while she tells me about that one time she fucked a stranger in a park. I remember another girl that didn't want to kiss me but told me about her spontaneous threesome after a club night.

Honestly I feel like a jester, like putting on a show to make her spread her legs, for some probably subpar sex as she's not genuinely attracted, while I know she would fuck Chad in a heartbeat. I'd rather kill myself, and honestly there are times I think about it. Maybe my genes should not reproduce at all.

Unless you're gonna get a defining surgery to upgrade your looks from a 6/10 to an 8/10 you should not and cannot concern yourself over this.

Check my rateme thread:

If there's a defining surgery I can take, I will.
 
Update:

A girl was willing to come over today, but since I had planned to meet another at the station since a few days I told her "another day", and asked when she was free. She never replied.

Just came back from the station after being stood up for the first time ever. We were supposed to meet at 6PM, last text was around 5PM. She never showed up, and her phone was unreachable.

She likely blocked me.

One day closer to roping.
 
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And my flatmate is fucking again. I'm in actual agony
 
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Ghosted after last message. What the fuck am I doing wrong? Holy fuck I just wanna have one win, been three days of constant rejections
 
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Ghosted after last message. What the fuck am I doing wrong? Holy fuck I just wanna have one win, been three days of constant rejections
If this hasnt made youu hate women idk what will.

Ttheyre abusive unless you abuse them, that simple. Zero sum game with them that they want to lose.
 
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She was receptive to dominance. That's why I flipped her when she jumped on me and got on top of her. I lightly pulled her hair, bit her lip, bit her neck, and firmly grabbed her ass.

I tried putting my hand under her shirt but, as I said, she wiggled away and started saying she was uncomfortable and didn't want to do anything. Do you really think I should have completely ignored that and forcefully go for it? It sounds VERY risky to me.
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reminder you are getting advice from virgins jfl
don't listen to most of these retards
 
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This is all online dating, with girls you've only texted and not talked to or seen yet?
I've fucked this girl before. Was great, actually was looking forward to see her again. We made plans for today last week.

Now I'm gonna spend the day seething while she's fucking someone else
 
I've fucked this girl before. Was great, actually was looking forward to see her again. We made plans for today last week.

Now I'm gonna spend the day seething while she's fucking someone else
Seems like all u fuck is whores bro

Why dont u try get a GF, slaying gets old and u can always cheat on ur GF when chances come by
 
London. Not LARPing. Again, I'm 6/10 IRL and date 4-6/10 IRL with the very occasional 7/10 IRL, and I literally spend hours on dating apps per day swiping on everyone and escalating with anyone that shows interest.

If I had to guess numbers, I've probably swiped right on 10000 women, matched with 1000, had a conversation with 500, dated 100, fucked 35-37. It's time consuming and it feels like I am picking whatever is left. I never feel like I have a choice.

Lool you're nowhere near a 6/10. I have seen your pics from the original thread. You are 2/10 max. This is 1 big LARP...
 
It's good to see you have discovered looks being the primary issue here. I can bet there is a discrepancy between your Tinder pics and what you look like irl...

I don't know how to put this lightly but you being 5'6 already puts you at a severe disadvantage. Many women are likely to reject you off their height preference alone irl, especially if they didn't know you were a turbo-manlet prior to meeting you. I vaguely remember you also stated losing your physique since the lockdown. That's another multiplier lost...

To top it all off, you're getting older and your FACE is low tier normie max. Tinder isn't working because you're not good-looking enough. You either ascend from here or start looking for an LTR with a roastie that's "looking to settle down".
 
Seems like all u fuck is whores bro

Why dont u try get a GF, slaying gets old and u can always cheat on ur GF when chances come by
Last GF I got was from Tinder. I don't know where else to get girls.

Also I push for sex quickly and many girls want to wait. I don't know if I should take it slow and maybe get a GF or if it's a waste of time.

Feeling very down at the moment
 
It's good to see you have discovered looks being the primary issue here. I can bet there is a discrepancy between your Tinder pics and what you look like irl...

I don't know how to put this lightly but you being 5'6 already puts you at a severe disadvantage. Many women are likely to reject you off their height preference alone irl, especially if they didn't know you were a turbo-manlet prior to meeting you. I vaguely remember you also stated losing your physique since the lockdown. That's another multiplier lost...

To top it all off, you're getting older and your FACE is low tier normie max. Tinder isn't working because you're not good-looking enough. You either ascend from here or start looking for an LTR with a roastie that's "looking to settle down".
Happy to hear tips on how to ascend. This forum hasn't been that helpful yet to be honest.

I'd rather actually kill myself before getting a LTR with a desperate roastie
 
Last GF I got was from Tinder. I don't know where else to get girls.

Also I push for sex quickly and many girls want to wait. I don't know if I should take it slow and maybe get a GF or if it's a waste of time.

Feeling very down at the moment
Go pickup girls irl, most guys are complete pussies and you get so many extra points for being the one to approach (especially a hot chick who scares guys away irl)

On tinder its all looks practically, nothing else to go by. Its also a website for whores who have been pump n dumped the most, girls who want LTRs only for betabux because they've been alpha widowed too many times.
 
Go pickup girls irl, most guys are complete pussies and you get so many extra points for being the one to approach (especially a hot chick who scares guys away irl)

On tinder its all looks practically, nothing else to go by. Its also a website for whores who have been pump n dumped the most, girls who want LTRs only for betabux because they've been alpha widowed too many times.
Cold approach on the street? Or something else?

Honestly the idea of cold approaching is quite terrifying to me. Also COVID lockdown + weather is cold as fuck
 
Cold approach on the street? Or something else?

Honestly the idea of cold approaching is quite terrifying to me. Also COVID lockdown + weather is cold as fuck
Dark triadmaxx man im telling you.

You will be able to confidently approach the same as when your drunk, but sober.

Im telling you, mogging girls is the only way to truly low inhmaxx and it works so perfectly.
 
I don't want to be a second choice. I don't want to be boyfriend material. I either want a girl to turn into a slut for me or nothing. I can't imagine having to "work" for a girl that Chad can fuck in 10 minutes. I just can't accept it.
You need to get the fuck over this.

How long have you been posting here? You're not chad, therefore you will never get his treatment - you should accept that & move on - just accept it is not going to happen - I accepted this years ago but still do the best I can. Given your height you are doing pretty well already. You're crying about not getting chad-tier results when you know full well you're not chad tier.. can't you see how mad that is?

Idk but you strike me as being a bit bluepilled here. You must surely realise by now women are flakey as fuck on dating apps - that is common knowledge to everyone.
 
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Tinder nowadays is mostly for self validation. I only got around 1200 matches in 2 months and went on very few dates. Sometimes I just stopped talking to them because I was bored
 
honestly bro my honest opinion is that you are a prob lucky than most here, most guys would argue that big cities are worse but when i was in the big city and used tinder i got rlly hot matches compared to where i live. I know some guys that literally go to the bigger "city" becaue it's easier for them and they are even better looking than me, keep in mind this is Sweden also, awful feminism and gender ratio. Most guys simp for these "low whores" in smaller places which is awful, how i know? since i have also tried the wine and dine game with them? Phones blow up non stop. You are gl but with that height you are never going to become chad/chadlite type(big city), but are doing pretty good. Try getting eye area surgery and try blue eyes lenses like amnesia, and i have no idea about that sick fucking height lengthening surgery.
 
oh yeah you will be a virgin for eternity if you do that
He’ll be an eternal virgin because he’ll get a life sentence as a serial rapist
 
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You need to get the fuck over this.
How? It's ingrained in my subconscious.

You're not chad, therefore you will never get his treatment - you should accept that & move on - just accept it is not going to happen - I accepted this years ago but still do the best I can.
This makes me feel suicidal, if anything. For me the true happiness you have in life is the genuine raw primal desire of attractive women. If I cannot get that, what's the point? If it's never going to happen, why even bother? Just so I can get sloppy seconds, or invest a lot of time into making a sexy girl open her legs for subpar sex while Chad can just text "dtf?" and ravage her?

You're crying about not getting chad-tier results when you know full well you're not chad tier.. can't you see how mad that is?
Is a non-Chad life worth living? Can I ever be happy, or will just spend the rest of my days envying

You must surely realise by now women are flakey as fuck on dating apps
I know. This thread is mostly for venting purposes.
 
Entirely depends on how attractive you are.
meh not really, I've ghosted several very attractive girls and got ghosted by some that weren't as pretty. Depends on several things, attractiveness being one important aspect of it but not the only one
 
How? It's ingrained in my subconscious.


This makes me feel suicidal, if anything. For me the true happiness you have in life is the genuine raw primal desire of attractive women. If I cannot get that, what's the point? If it's never going to happen, why even bother? Just so I can get sloppy seconds, or invest a lot of time into making a sexy girl open her legs for subpar sex while Chad can just text "dtf?" and ravage her?


Is a non-Chad life worth living? Can I ever be happy, or will just spend the rest of my days envying


I know. This thread is mostly for venting purposes.
I think you'll never be happy with your results through online dating. Daygame would be a better option if you have the balls to do it - the quality of women you can meet on the street far exceeds the quality of girls on an app.

However if your goal does not revolve around the quality of the women you're getting but more that they will give you the 'Chad treatment' idk what to tell you... I doubt you'll find a girl that would worship you like that in the west (it's a struggle for everyone).

I'm not sure what your goal is tbh
 
This is the girl from today:
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I just can't help but think she was willing to fuck a random stranger in a park, but not me. She literally made me feel less desirable than a random stranger she fucked on a whim.

That just makes me feel like shit. I will feel better soon but right not I just feel rejected.
It never began for this slutty subhuman gook who would fuck chad in a heartbeat
 
s a non-Chad life worth living? Can I ever be happy, or will just spend the rest of my days envying


I know. This thread is mostly for venting purposes.
The hard truth is that trying to pump and dump as a sub-chad is a waste of time because you'll have to put in a LOT of effort to get even a 6/10. Your best bet is slaying sub 5s even with that they're still gonna flake and frustrate you. You're better off finding a non-slutty 7/10 and LTRing her for good consistent sex - I've been there and done that. Anyway, what happened to the hot slutty girl who wasn't impressed with your sex? did she reach out ?
 
because you'll have to put in a LOT of effort to get even a 6/10
I can confirm that. I got lucky yesterday and met a 6.5-7/10 off Hinge, super submissive in bed, and great body as she was a pole dancer. Really needed that "win" after the streak of losses. But proves how rare it is compared to flakes and rejections.

She seemed very satisfied in bed, but somehow gave me the impression she didn't want to see me again. Called me a narcissist a few times, maybe I overdid the "redpill bullshit".


You're better off finding a non-slutty 7/10 and LTRing her for good consistent sex
My last LTR was a solid 6/10 which I really liked aesthetically, and also loved on a deeper level. However, compared to many hookups I've had, the sex was subpar. I was always the one initiating, she started rejecting me more often after a few years of knowing each other, etc. I feel like the girl has to see you at least as a "chadlite" if the LTR needs to last and have good consistent sex.


what happened to the hot slutty girl who wasn't impressed with your sex? did she reach out ?
Nope. I didn't either, but I think it would be a waste of time. But maybe I should just try it?
 
She seemed very satisfied in bed, but somehow gave me the impression she didn't want to see me again. Called me a narcissist a few times, maybe I overdid the "redpill bullshit".

How did the interaction go, can you expand on this?
 
How did the interaction go, can you expand on this?
So we started by some basic texting and comfort building on Hinge. After 3-4 messages, I asked her if she was looking for company -- she said "not today, but some other time sure".

When they say this, I reply with "cool, give me your WhatsApp and we'll make plans on there". I feel like it helps retention, and if they don't wanna give it to you it's unlikely they'll ever meet.

She gave it to me. I texted her 1-2 days later and told her to come over, sending my postcode. She said it was a bit far, so I told her to meet at the closest train station instead and she agreed.

We met on time, she was a few centimetres shorter than me, but really cute. Her Hinge pictures of her pole dancing were from last year, and she had lost a bit of muscle tone due to lockdown, but still very slim and sexy.

We started walking towards mine and chatting about normal life. Some kino here and there. Stopped by the riverside to sit and talk with nice scenery, then I told her to come back as it was freezing cold. It actually was.

She came back with no resistance, and at mine I asked her what I could offer her, and we had some wine. She complimented my flat for the tidiness and we kept chatting on the sofa.

We sat next to each other and I kept doing light kino. She didn't really reciprocate. She started talking about some boring work shit and I just went in for the kiss. She started making out immediately and it was hard for either of us to stop.

I started feeling her breasts and thighs on the sofa, she enjoyed it. Then I literally picked her up and carried her to my bedroom. She was super light so it was fun to open the door with one hand while holding her with only one arm, I think she enjoyed that.

We fucked like animals twice, she kept screaming and moaning in pleasure. At the start, she made me use a condom. After a bit I told her that I couldn't feel much with a condom on (the truth) and after taking it off and facefucking her she left me get inside her without hesitation.

She was very submissive and I made sure to pin her down, slap her ass, and generally treat her like a fucktoy. She enjoyed that. Came inside her twice.

After both instances of intercourse, we talked a lot and built a connection. Talked about family, aspirations, and past experiences. It was pretty nice.

She told me about her experiences with drugs and alcohol, making it pretty clear that she was a dishinibited party girl. Most likely very slutty. She told me how she tried coke and other shit, and when I told her I never did she playfully called me a "good boy".

In general I was in a playful mood and teased her for losing her muscle tone during lockdown, while jokingly praising myself and boasting about my looks and discipline. I think she understood I was playing around, but maybe I overdid it and she got turned off by that. I am not sure.

One of the reasons why I don't think she wants to see me again is that she never mentioned anything like "next time", even when I was trying to bait her.

For example, I asked her if she likes being tied up. She said she'd like to try it, and I showed her my bed restraints and said "next time". She didn't answer anything to that.

Or when she was leaving, we kissed, and I told her "I'll see you, NAME". She replied with "yeah, see you", but it really felt like she didn't give a shit about seeing me again from her tone.

So I must have either appeared too narcissistic/autistic, or maybe she picked up on the fact that I was trying to see if she was down for a second meet and felt like I was needy.

I don't know.

Since the sex and chat was good, I think it's worthwhile contacting her again after a few days and telling her to come over and cook some dinner together. What do you think?

If she says no, I will ask her "why" in a polite manner and try to get some feedback. I had the impression that she's not the kind of girl who ghosts, but who knows.
 
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So we started by some basic texting and comfort building on Hinge. After 3-4 messages, I asked her if she was looking for company -- she said "not today, but some other time sure".

When they say this, I reply with "cool, give me your WhatsApp and we'll make plans on there". I feel like it helps retention, and if they don't wanna give it to you it's unlikely they'll ever meet.

She gave it to me. I texted her 1-2 days later and told her to come over, sending my postcode. She said it was a bit far, so I told her to meet at the closest train station instead and she agreed.

We met on time, she was a few centimetres shorter than me, but really cute. Her Hinge pictures of her pole dancing were from last year, and she had lost a bit of muscle tone due to lockdown, but still very slim and sexy.

We started walking towards mine and chatting about normal life. Some kino here and there. Stopped by the riverside to sit and talk with nice scenery, then I told her to come back as it was freezing cold. It actually was.

She came back with no resistance, and at mine I asked her what I could offer her, and we had some wine. She complimented my flat for the tidiness and we kept chatting on the sofa.

We sat next to each other and I kept doing light kino. She didn't really reciprocate. She started talking about some boring work shit and I just went in for the kiss. She started making out immediately and it was hard for either of us to stop.

I started feeling her breasts and thighs on the sofa, she enjoyed it. Then I literally picked her up and carried her to my bedroom. She was super light so it was fun to open the door with one hand while holding her with only one arm, I think she enjoyed that.

We fucked like animals twice, she kept screaming and moaning in pleasure. At the start, she made me use a condom. After a bit I told her that I couldn't feel much with a condom on (the truth) and after taking it off and facefucking her she left me get inside her without hesitation.

She was very submissive and I made sure to pin her down, slap her ass, and generally treat her like a fucktoy. She enjoyed that. Came inside her twice.

After both instances of intercourse, we talked a lot and built a connection. Talked about family, aspirations, and past experiences. It was pretty nice.

She told me about her experiences with drugs and alcohol, making it pretty clear that she was a dishinibited party girl. Most likely very slutty. She told me how she tried coke and other shit, and when I told her I never did she playfully called me a "good boy".

In general I was in a playful mood and teased her for losing her muscle tone during lockdown, while jokingly praising myself and boasting about my looks and discipline. I think she understood I was playing around, but maybe I overdid it and she got turned off by that. I am not sure.

One of the reasons why I don't think she wants to see me again is that she never mentioned anything like "next time", even when I was trying to bait her.

For example, I asked her if she likes being tied up. She said she'd like to try it, and I showed her my bed restraints and said "next time". She didn't answer anything to that.

Or when she was leaving, we kissed, and I told her "I'll see you, NAME". She replied with "yeah, see you", but it really felt like she didn't give a shit about seeing me again from her tone.

So I must have either appeared too narcissistic/autistic, or maybe she picked up on the fact that I was trying to see if she was down for a second meet and felt like I was needy.

I don't know.

Since the sex and chat was good, I think it's worthwhile contacting her again after a few days and telling her to come over and cook some dinner together. What do you think?

If she says no, I will ask her "why" in a polite manner and try to get some feedback. I had the impression that she's not the kind of girl who ghosts, but who knows.

Honestly you keep dealing with giga sluts lmao. I made a post earlier about their psychology, they have been alpha-widowed too many times to LTR and pair bond, they just use Alpha for fucks and Beta for bux, thats now their life till they die.

Are you looking for LTR? Or just a FWB?
 
She told me about her experiences with drugs and alcohol, making it pretty clear that she was a dishinibited party girl. Most likely very slutty. She told me how she tried coke and other shit, and when I told her I never did she playfully called me a "good boy".

Also if you want a little tip here, its always good to make a girl confused and unsure about you, by being mysterious. Here you could say something like 'What you know about me?', then if she asks further just tell her she doesn't know lol.

Also direct bragging is never good, your showing off to get validation (weak position).
 
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These girls are disgusting lol, Id rather fuck hookers, less time and effort, better looking and better in bed. Probably equal chance of STD, since hookers are more careful than tinder sluts.
 
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I told her "shut up" when she was resisting and tried putting my hand under her shirt. She said she was uncomfortable and wiggled away. I am not gonna rape somebody and risk getting in jail.
The stuff I read on this forum man is gold
 
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Just so im clear all these girls u meet are from tinder only? I dread to think the average girl on the street is this much of a turbowhore.
 
I can confirm that. I got lucky yesterday and met a 6.5-7/10 off Hinge, super submissive in bed, and great body as she was a pole dancer. Really needed that "win" after the streak of losses. But proves how rare it is compared to flakes and rejections.

She seemed very satisfied in bed, but somehow gave me the impression she didn't want to see me again. Called me a narcissist a few times, maybe I overdid the "redpill bullshit".



My last LTR was a solid 6/10 which I really liked aesthetically, and also loved on a deeper level. However, compared to many hookups I've had, the sex was subpar. I was always the one initiating, she started rejecting me more often after a few years of knowing each other, etc. I feel like the girl has to see you at least as a "chadlite" if the LTR needs to last and have good consistent sex.



Nope. I didn't either, but I think it would be a waste of time. But maybe I should just try it?
Pics of 6.5-7???
Slayer

Jesus Christ it is irresponsible of you not to use a condom though given the situation
 
POV: right before getting ghosted

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Lol I even lied, mine is 5.5x5
Are you gonna abusemaxx sometime? You've taken enough abuse from these whores, look at the mental toerment they've put you through. They are abusve if your not with them, zero sum game.
 
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