Ideal ratios for ethnic (black) men

[Korea]

U are an alt right? Don't lie

Alternate Account? No, I'm not. Just someone who knows how to format text with comprehendible english.

 

[AscendingHero]

U are an alt right? Don't lie

He is 100 percent an alt, won't be surpised if he was on other psl sites to, 100 percent he's done some hard core lurking and he is 100 percent an alt or some way shape or form involved into this shit, he's not your typical greycel

but why tf would he publicly admit himself as an alt nigga

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Alternate Account? No, I'm not. Just someone who knows how to format text with comprehendible english.

You are dropping blackpilled and looksmaxxing threads like a seasoned user

 

[AscendingHero]

You are dropping blackpilled and looksmaxxing threads like a seasoned user

similar aesthetic knowledge to users like @StrangerDanger , @EverythingMattersCel and @MisterMercedes , won't be suprised if some of them with some small tweaks end up BOTB.

Who is this dude?

 

[Korea]

, you are dropping blackpilled threads like a seasoned user

Oh god you think these are blackpills...While I'm typing my Asian side profile thread I had the please of some FUCKING DOGS STAINING MY THREAD WITH SHIT. I originally planned not to make contreversial threads around here, but I'm annoyed with the submanity.

 

[Deleted member 17344]

cope chad looks good with all cameras

 

[Korea]

cope chad looks good with all cameras

Someone post the pic of Gandy & Meeks with Lens distortion out the ass.

Found the Meeks one.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Oh god you think these are blackpills...While I'm typing my Asian side profile thread I had the please of some FUCKING DOGS STAINING MY THREAD WITH SHIT. I originally planned not to make contreversial threads around here, but I'm annoyed with the submanity.

How did you learn so much about looks and the science of aesthetics? Books or something like that?

 

[Deleted member 17174]

How did you learn so much about looks and the science of aesthetics? Books or something like that?

cage at memorising a bunch of bullshit to impress 16 year old incels

 

[Jason Voorhees]

cage at memorising a bunch of bullshit to impress 16 year old incels

Well atleast OP's threads are high effort and add something of value to this foru.. Much better than cringe racebaiting

 

[Deleted member 15099]

TLDR: Buy a mm caliper to measure your ratios dear lord never use pictures unless they're professionally taken, also if you're black, indian, asian etc. don't use Caucasian ratios.

It has come to my attention that a lot of P.O.C are measuring their ratios based of the Caucasian studies. Also, 99% of you are measuring your ratios based on smartphone selfies, Blasphemy.

First I want to address a common misconception that a smartphone using the back camera if sufficient, but in reality it's not. 99% of phones are equiped with Wide-Angle or Ultra-Wide(AKA the demons of portraiture). I'll list the most common phones using these lenses.

Apple: iPhone XR, iPhone 6(All variants), iPhone 7(All Variants), iPhone 8(All Variants), iPhone 11, iPhone 12(+mini), iPhone 13(+mini).
Google: Pixel 3(All Variants), Pixel 4a, Pixel 5(All Variants), Pixel 6.

All of the above phones are only equipped with a Wide-Angle Lens, or an Ultra-Wide Angle Lens. If you've used thses pictures to measure your ratios, they aren't accurate AT ALL.

Pretty much all of the 2019 and later iPhones and Pixels have a Telephoto Lens. Here's the list.
Apple: iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 12 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 13 Pro(+max).
Google: Pixel 6 Pro.

If you used the Telephoto Lens these phones than your ratios hold decent merit and are somewhat accurate, but I'm really against using smartphone photos for ratios.

I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT SELFIES.

So why are these lenses so bad for portraiture???

You are all fammiliar with Lens distortion cause by too close length + bad cam specs, but have you ever heard of
Radial Distortion???

There are 3 types of Radial Distortion, but only 2 are relevant to the topic (Barrel distortion and Pincushion distortion)

View attachment 1529430

These types of distortions are practically impossbile to avoid with Wide-Angle & Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses. This why why every model photographer has 200MM Telephoto Lenses, because they have no distortion.

Alright, now I'm sure a lot of you are relieved to see how shit cameras are. Some people now wonder...What's the truth what do I look like.

Answer is....The Mirror. Yes, this is exactly what you look like. Now for "How Attractive am I?" is up to your self perception.

Part 2: Why P.O.C should'nt be using Caucasian ratios? I thought this was obvious...

The main reason why you can't use ratios for the other race is simply because they do not apply to you. Saying this, if you live in a Western County, it will benefit to have some of the key ratios for harmony(I will post them).

African, Asian,and Caucasian Facial Differences. Don't panic I'll summarize this soon.

Overall with such facial differences, different ratios must be used. So I used about 50 different Faces of African, Asian, and Indian to create more ideal ratios for the face. I'll tell you now most do not "totally" change, ever so slighty makes all the difference thought.

Part 3: Ratio Time

African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.View attachment 1529459View attachment 1529462View attachment 1529464
Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)

Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....

View attachment 1529468View attachment 1529472
Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)

I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.

FWHR 1.8 - 2.01 (This goes for any race). Anything too high yields a brute/ogre appearance and totally f*cks harmony
Measured like this.
View attachment 1529481

Mouth to Nose Ratio (1.3 - 1.6 excluding Asians) (Typical being 1.4-1.6)
View attachment 1529490View attachment 1529498
This is another ratio that's being misused by P.O.C, and generally everyone.

The reason why 1.3 - 1.6 is fair because not only do men on avg. have wider noses, but P.O.C (Primarilly Africans and Indians) have wider noses. Now I'm not giving anyone a pass due to their race, but even Chico has only a 1.32 - 1.34(Pic Variation) Mouth to Nose ratio, and it doesn't detract from harmony.

Lower/Full Face Ratio is the same (0.62+)View attachment 1529500

Midface Ratio is rougly the same, slightly altered for wider IPD of Africans(Same for Indians & Asians) (.94 - 1.15)

View attachment 1529503View attachment 1529509
Mukasa(1.14)
While .94 and 1.14 doesn't really mess with harmony, closer to 1:1 is perfect.


Lower to Upper Lip Ratio (1.3 - 2 Excluding Asians, they need the standard 1.62)
View attachment 1529519
Since Blacks and Indians tend to have fuller lips they are allowed to slight stray from the "Golden Proportion", but anything below 1.3 is D*ck Sucking L*ps...sorry
View attachment 1529522View attachment 1529524
^^^This is BAD (1.26).
Mukasa at 1.43 amazing

Bizygomatic to Bigonial Width ( 80-90%, Same for everyone)

View attachment 1529529
This is really important I already made a thread why

Chin to Philtrum Ratio (2 - 2.5, Same for everyone)
View attachment 1529534View attachment 1529537

Anything over 2.6 = Crimson Chin, anything below 2 is likely recessed or Cart Titan Philtrum

All of the angles (Goinial, Canthal Tilt, Cervicomental etc etc. all remain the same)

Someone already made a thread with the ideal angles. (Thank god).

That's it (After writing this, I realize there isn't much salvation for the Asian Race, this was not my intentions and I'll update this if I missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.)

glad Im not ethnic

 

[Deleted member 17344]

Someone post the pic of Gandy & Meeks with Lens distortion out the ass.

Found the Meeks one.
View attachment 1531063

He still looks chad jfl

 

[Korea]

He still looks chad jfl

Eh yea, camera isn't gonna make you "Ugly" completly, but my point was the accuracy of ratios.

 

[Korea]

How did you learn so much about looks and the science of aesthetics? Books or something like that?

Study the Studies.

 

[Korea]

glad Im not ethnic

Follow my profile, I'll have a thread for you soon.

 

[AscendingHero]

Study the Studies.

indeed, if studies are objective and tell the story, it's where aesthetic behemoths like @MisterMercedes (similar knowledge to you @Korea get their stuff)

At least you're way mroe responsive with the users here, one day i'll find u are, defo not some rando greycel

 

[Korea]

indeed, if studies are objective and tell the story, it's where aesthetic behemoths like @MisterMercedes (similar knowledge to you @Korea get their stuff)

At least you're way mroe responsive with the users here, one day i'll find u are, defo not some rando greycel

Lol good luck finding me

 

[Entschuldigung]

Ethnics don't look that bad when you see them on their own
But when you put side to side with a white person the mog is real

 

[Deleted member 15917]

Someone post the pic of Gandy & Meeks with Lens distortion out the ass.

Found the Meeks one.
View attachment 1531063

There are more close selfies of him where he looks really weird tbh, lens distortion is real

 

[Deleted member 15917]

Ethnics don't look that bad when you see them on their own
But when you put side to side with a white person the mog is real

A white person with the same psl, yes. But there's no way a 4 psl white person can mog a 5 psl ethnic.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Dnr I'm the ideal ethnic

 

[Deleted member 15917]

Dnr I'm the ideal ethnic

You look good but get lean asap.

 

[Korea]

Dnr I'm the ideal ethnic

I guess. Being brutally unaware of having those looks will help you perform better.

 

[Deleted member 15917]

I guess. Being brutally unaware of having those looks will help you perform better.

He's 6'3 ft, he's a literal mogger.

 

[House Lannister]

U are an alt right? Don't lie

Something tells me it’s divinebeing

 

[Birdcell]

Something tells me it’s divinebeing

Why ?

 

[House Lannister]

Why ?

Actually I’m not sure. He was extremely anti makinithappen unless he developed split personalities which is also likely

 

[Korea]

Actually I’m not sure. He was extremely anti makinithappen unless he developed split personalities which is also likely

I'm not an ALT.

 

[Sal]

Tell me my ratios or shit I need to fix (yes I'm mixed). Still bloated. 200lb. Cutting atm to 165 for bones + season.

 

[Korea]

Tell me my ratios or shit I need to fix (yes I'm mixed). Still bloated. 200lb. Cutting atm to 165 for bones + season.

Show me a frontal (You can PM).

 

[CristianT]

TLDR: Buy a mm caliper to measure your ratios dear lord never use pictures unless they're professionally taken, also if you're black, indian, asian etc. don't use Caucasian ratios.

It has come to my attention that a lot of P.O.C are measuring their ratios based of the Caucasian studies. Also, 99% of you are measuring your ratios based on smartphone selfies, Blasphemy.

First I want to address a common misconception that a smartphone using the back camera if sufficient, but in reality it's not. 99% of phones are equiped with Wide-Angle or Ultra-Wide(AKA the demons of portraiture). I'll list the most common phones using these lenses.

Apple: iPhone XR, iPhone 6(All variants), iPhone 7(All Variants), iPhone 8(All Variants), iPhone 11, iPhone 12(+mini), iPhone 13(+mini).
Google: Pixel 3(All Variants), Pixel 4a, Pixel 5(All Variants), Pixel 6.

All of the above phones are only equipped with a Wide-Angle Lens, or an Ultra-Wide Angle Lens. If you've used thses pictures to measure your ratios, they aren't accurate AT ALL.

Pretty much all of the 2019 and later iPhones and Pixels have a Telephoto Lens. Here's the list.
Apple: iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 12 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 13 Pro(+max).
Google: Pixel 6 Pro.

If you used the Telephoto Lens these phones than your ratios hold decent merit and are somewhat accurate, but I'm really against using smartphone photos for ratios.

I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT SELFIES.

So why are these lenses so bad for portraiture???

You are all fammiliar with Lens distortion cause by too close length + bad cam specs, but have you ever heard of
Radial Distortion???

There are 3 types of Radial Distortion, but only 2 are relevant to the topic (Barrel distortion and Pincushion distortion)

View attachment 1529430

These types of distortions are practically impossbile to avoid with Wide-Angle & Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses. This why why every model photographer has 200MM Telephoto Lenses, because they have no distortion.

Alright, now I'm sure a lot of you are relieved to see how shit cameras are. Some people now wonder...What's the truth what do I look like.

Answer is....The Mirror. Yes, this is exactly what you look like. Now for "How Attractive am I?" is up to your self perception.

Part 2: Why P.O.C should'nt be using Caucasian ratios? I thought this was obvious...

The main reason why you can't use ratios for the other race is simply because they do not apply to you. Saying this, if you live in a Western County, it will benefit to have some of the key ratios for harmony(I will post them).

African, Asian,and Caucasian Facial Differences. Don't panic I'll summarize this soon.

Overall with such facial differences, different ratios must be used. So I used about 50 different Faces of African, Asian, and Indian to create more ideal ratios for the face. I'll tell you now most do not "totally" change, ever so slighty makes all the difference thought.

Part 3: Ratio Time

African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.View attachment 1529459View attachment 1529462View attachment 1529464
Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)

Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....

View attachment 1529468View attachment 1529472
Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)

I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.

FWHR 1.8 - 2.01 (This goes for any race). Anything too high yields a brute/ogre appearance and totally f*cks harmony
Measured like this.
View attachment 1529481

Mouth to Nose Ratio (1.3 - 1.6 excluding Asians) (Typical being 1.4-1.6)
View attachment 1529490View attachment 1529498
This is another ratio that's being misused by P.O.C, and generally everyone.

The reason why 1.3 - 1.6 is fair because not only do men on avg. have wider noses, but P.O.C (Primarilly Africans and Indians) have wider noses. Now I'm not giving anyone a pass due to their race, but even Chico has only a 1.32 - 1.34(Pic Variation) Mouth to Nose ratio, and it doesn't detract from harmony.

Lower/Full Face Ratio is the same (0.62+)View attachment 1529500

Midface Ratio is rougly the same, slightly altered for wider IPD of Africans(Same for Indians & Asians) (.94 - 1.15)

View attachment 1529503View attachment 1529509
Mukasa(1.14)
While .94 and 1.14 doesn't really mess with harmony, closer to 1:1 is perfect.


Lower to Upper Lip Ratio (1.3 - 2 Excluding Asians, they need the standard 1.62)
View attachment 1529519
Since Blacks and Indians tend to have fuller lips they are allowed to slight stray from the "Golden Proportion", but anything below 1.3 is D*ck Sucking L*ps...sorry
View attachment 1529522View attachment 1529524
^^^This is BAD (1.26).
Mukasa at 1.43 amazing

Bizygomatic to Bigonial Width ( 80-90%, Same for everyone)

View attachment 1529529
This is really important I already made a thread why

Chin to Philtrum Ratio (2 - 2.5, Same for everyone)
View attachment 1529534View attachment 1529537

Anything over 2.6 = Crimson Chin, anything below 2 is likely recessed or Cart Titan Philtrum

All of the angles (Goinial, Canthal Tilt, Cervicomental etc etc. all remain the same)

Someone already made a thread with the ideal angles. (Thank god).

That's it (After writing this, I realize there isn't much salvation for the Asian Race, this was not my intentions and I'll update this if I missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.)

Your iq makes me horny OP

 

[DarkLooks]

wb dick to ball ratio

 

[Korea]

wb dick to ball ratio

Whatever ratio is large enough to stop you from ever speaking again.

 

[DarkLooks]

Whatever ratio is large enough to stop you from ever speaking again.

 

[Deleted member 17694]

This effect only applies to someone trying to assess their own facial attactivness, Mere Exposure only applies to judgement. Meanwhile a mirror doesn't distort any facial proportions. Again, you look just how you do in the mirror to everyone else, but whether you call yourself hot or not is based on self perception.

I think you can use a large reverse mirror to assess your attractiveness, as it brings to light what you actually look like to other people. As well as facial asymmetries that might not have been apparent immediately.

 

[Korea]

I think you can use a large reverse mirror to assess your attractiveness, as it brings to light what you actually look like to other people. As well as facial asymmetries that might not have been apparent immediately.

Not really, because it's just another "flip". So, it would be worthless.

I don't think most people, and DEFINETLY most users here are holistic or informed enough to accurately rate themselves.

 

[Deleted member 17694]

Not really, because it's just another "flip". So, it would be worthless.

I don't think most people, and DEFINETLY most users here are holistic or informed enough to accurately rate themselves.

The self you see in the mirror is not what other people see, it's a mirrored image of yourself. If you "flip" that image with a non-reversing mirror you objectively get what other people see.

 

[Korea]

The self you see in the mirror is not what other people see, it's a mirrored image of yourself. If you "flip" that image with a non-reversing mirror you objectively get what other people see.

The mirror is 100%.

You can easily prove this, even with a pet.

Put them in the mirror and look, then look IRL. Nothing changed or distorted.

Mere Exporsure is about how you feel towards a certain something, which is why most people rate themselves higher than reality.

NOT because the mirror is a "Flipped" image of yourself.

 

[Deleted member 17694]

The mirror is 100%.

You can easily prove this, even with a pet.

Put them in the mirror and look, then look IRL. Nothing changed or distorted.

Mere Exporsure is about how you feel towards a certain something, which is why most people rate themselves higher than reality.

NOT because the mirror is a "Flipped" image of yourself.

When you look in the mirror wearing a shirt with the brand name do you see the logo correctly or is it reversed?

 

[Korea]

When you look in the mirror wearing a shirt with the brand name do you see the logo correctly or is it reversed?

Yes it's reversed.

My point is "What Changed".

The proportions of the logo, the color, the shape etc. do not change.

Just as with the face, in the mirror, nothing "Changes". The Face is just flipped.

 

[Deleted member 17694]

Yes it's reversed.

My point is "What Changed".

The proportions of the logo, the color, the shape etc. do not change.

Just as with the face, in the mirror, nothing "Changes". The Face is just flipped.

In a non-reversing mirror the asymmetries are more apparent, the mere exposure effect is not as significant.

 

[Korea]

In a non-reversing mirror the asymmetries are more apparent, the mere exposure effect is not as significant.

*In a non-reversing mirror the asymmetries are more apparent, the mere exposure effect is not as significant.*

This is the Mere Exposure at it's finest. The theory itself states that the said person isn't changed at all.

The assymmetries become more "apparent" as a psudeo (aka fake and exxagerated).

Your aren't "used" to your face that way, so they appear more "apparent", when in reality nothing has changed.

 

[sub5inchcel]

glad Im not ethnic

your mexican bruh thats ethnic

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Ethnic = Black ? @Korea

This site doesn't consider that to be the case so I suggest an admin edits this title @Kingkellz

Pls do one on South Asian men (Pakistanis and Indians)

 

[Korea]

Ethnic = Black ? @Korea

This site doesn't consider that to be the case so I suggest an admin edits this title @Kingkellz

Pls do one on South Asian men (Pakistanis and Indians)

The mods could change the title I guess to specifically African men since I did a different one for asians aswell.

I'd need to see if I can find enough material on South Asians, not many aesthetic studies have been done on them.

 

[CristianT]

TLDR: Buy a mm caliper to measure your ratios dear lord never use pictures unless they're professionally taken, also if you're black, indian, asian etc. don't use Caucasian ratios.

It has come to my attention that a lot of P.O.C are measuring their ratios based of the Caucasian studies. Also, 99% of you are measuring your ratios based on smartphone selfies, Blasphemy.

First I want to address a common misconception that a smartphone using the back camera if sufficient, but in reality it's not. 99% of phones are equiped with Wide-Angle or Ultra-Wide(AKA the demons of portraiture). I'll list the most common phones using these lenses.

Apple: iPhone XR, iPhone 6(All variants), iPhone 7(All Variants), iPhone 8(All Variants), iPhone 11, iPhone 12(+mini), iPhone 13(+mini).
Google: Pixel 3(All Variants), Pixel 4a, Pixel 5(All Variants), Pixel 6.

All of the above phones are only equipped with a Wide-Angle Lens, or an Ultra-Wide Angle Lens. If you've used thses pictures to measure your ratios, they aren't accurate AT ALL.

Pretty much all of the 2019 and later iPhones and Pixels have a Telephoto Lens. Here's the list.
Apple: iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 12 Pro(+Pro Max), iPhone 13 Pro(+max).
Google: Pixel 6 Pro.

If you used the Telephoto Lens these phones than your ratios hold decent merit and are somewhat accurate, but I'm really against using smartphone photos for ratios.

I SHOULD'NT HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT SELFIES.

So why are these lenses so bad for portraiture???

You are all fammiliar with Lens distortion cause by too close length + bad cam specs, but have you ever heard of
Radial Distortion???

There are 3 types of Radial Distortion, but only 2 are relevant to the topic (Barrel distortion and Pincushion distortion)

View attachment 1529430

These types of distortions are practically impossbile to avoid with Wide-Angle & Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses. This why why every model photographer has 200MM Telephoto Lenses, because they have no distortion.

Alright, now I'm sure a lot of you are relieved to see how shit cameras are. Some people now wonder...What's the truth what do I look like.

Answer is....The Mirror. Yes, this is exactly what you look like. Now for "How Attractive am I?" is up to your self perception.

Part 2: Why P.O.C should'nt be using Caucasian ratios? I thought this was obvious...

The main reason why you can't use ratios for the other race is simply because they do not apply to you. Saying this, if you live in a Western County, it will benefit to have some of the key ratios for harmony(I will post them).

African, Asian,and Caucasian Facial Differences. Don't panic I'll summarize this soon.

Overall with such facial differences, different ratios must be used. So I used about 50 different Faces of African, Asian, and Indian to create more ideal ratios for the face. I'll tell you now most do not "totally" change, ever so slighty makes all the difference thought.

Part 3: Ratio Time

African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.View attachment 1529459View attachment 1529462View attachment 1529464
Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)

Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....

View attachment 1529468View attachment 1529472
Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)

I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.

FWHR 1.8 - 2.01 (This goes for any race). Anything too high yields a brute/ogre appearance and totally f*cks harmony
Measured like this.
View attachment 1529481

Mouth to Nose Ratio (1.3 - 1.6 excluding Asians) (Typical being 1.4-1.6)
View attachment 1529490View attachment 1529498
This is another ratio that's being misused by P.O.C, and generally everyone.

The reason why 1.3 - 1.6 is fair because not only do men on avg. have wider noses, but P.O.C (Primarilly Africans and Indians) have wider noses. Now I'm not giving anyone a pass due to their race, but even Chico has only a 1.32 - 1.34(Pic Variation) Mouth to Nose ratio, and it doesn't detract from harmony.

Lower/Full Face Ratio is the same (0.62+)View attachment 1529500

Midface Ratio is rougly the same, slightly altered for wider IPD of Africans(Same for Indians & Asians) (.94 - 1.15)

View attachment 1529503View attachment 1529509
Mukasa(1.14)
While .94 and 1.14 doesn't really mess with harmony, closer to 1:1 is perfect.


Lower to Upper Lip Ratio (1.3 - 2 Excluding Asians, they need the standard 1.62)
View attachment 1529519
Since Blacks and Indians tend to have fuller lips they are allowed to slight stray from the "Golden Proportion", but anything below 1.3 is D*ck Sucking L*ps...sorry
View attachment 1529522View attachment 1529524
^^^This is BAD (1.26).
Mukasa at 1.43 amazing

Bizygomatic to Bigonial Width ( 80-90%, Same for everyone)

View attachment 1529529
This is really important I already made a thread why

Chin to Philtrum Ratio (2 - 2.5, Same for everyone)
View attachment 1529534View attachment 1529537

Anything over 2.6 = Crimson Chin, anything below 2 is likely recessed or Cart Titan Philtrum

All of the angles (Goinial, Canthal Tilt, Cervicomental etc etc. all remain the same)

Someone already made a thread with the ideal angles. (Thank god).

That's it (After writing this, I realize there isn't much salvation for the Asian Race, this was not my intentions and I'll update this if I missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.)

Only professional camera are legit for measuring ratios?

I made yesterday some pics with rear camera and my God I look so different and unproportionate where with the front camera I look somewhat decent. I'm going crazy with these cameras, we might make bad surgeries just because we are disproportionate in the pictures made from phone, how crazy is that?

 

[Korea]

Only professional camera are legit for measuring ratios?

TBH, yes.

If you can't get professinal photos.

Millimeter Calipers are $10 at most.

 

[Birdcell]

Do I look more like in Mirror or Camera

 

[Korea]

Do I look more like in Mirror or Camera

Mirror. Mirror. Mirror.

 

[CristianT]

Mirror. Mirror. Mirror.

I don't know what to say about that. I remember when I had short face syndrome in the mirror it was hard for me to identify this but when my doctor took pics with me with a professional camera I immediately saw my flaws.