Ideal ratios for ethnic (black) men

I don't know what to say about that. I remember when I had short face syndrome in the mirror it was hard for me to identify this but when my doctor took pics with me with a professional camera I immediately saw my flaws.
Which camera bro
 
This isn't actually true, just wait for my thread I guess. I'll explain it the best I can.
Drop the threads bro

we miss em, i know i dearly do🙏
 
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African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.
Black esr
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Mukasa (.51 ESR) Beckford (.5 ESR) Staniel Ferreira(.5 ESR)

Give a White, Asian, or Indian this ESR and....

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Redditor (.51 ESR) Model Roberto Sipos(.5 ESR)
my this part is 1:2.049 (professional biometric photo) yet I don't have any zygos. Maybe it's lacking forward projection? I have a slightly recessed chin so maybe it's not pulling skin enough?

(my IPD is fine btw, distance between eyes are almost same as eye length)
 
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my this part is 1:2.049 (professional biometric photo) yet I don't have any zygos. Maybe it's lacking forward projection? I have a slightly recessed chin so maybe it's not pulling skin enough?

(my IPD is fine btw, distance between eyes are almost same as eye length)
Chin barely effects getting hollow cheeks.

Your ESR suggests that you might have slightly below avg zygomatic width, assuming your IPD is fine.

What is your Zygomatic Width?
 
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Chin barely effects getting hollow cheeks.

Your ESR suggests that you might have slightly below avg zygomatic width, assuming your IPD is fine.

What is your Zygomatic Width?
I don't have calipers so I tried a bunch of doors and my hands in random combinations, It's somewhere between 13.6 and 14.2. Yeah not very precise unfortunately.
 
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Your ESR suggests that you might have slightly below avg zygomatic width
but why do above examples have mogger zygos with 1.99 if I have below average with 2.049 I really don't get it.
 
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I don't have calipers so I tried a bunch of doors and my hands in random combinations, It's somewhere between 13.6 and 14.2. Yeah not very precise unfortunately.
Hmm, yea, your zygos are below avg in width. Only by a few mm tho.
but why do above examples have mogger zygos with 1.99 if I have below average with 2.049 I really don't get it.
You mean FWHR? You might lack both lateral and forward cheekbone growth.
 
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Hmm, yea, your zygos are below avg in width. Only by a few mm tho.

You mean FWHR? You might lack both lateral and forward cheekbone growth.
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no I meant this by 1.99/2.049 but yeah I guess it's due to bonelessness thank you for clearing it up.
 
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a persons rating is purely based on 3 factors

jaw, eyes lips everything else doesn't matter we can talk about perfection all we want but if you have 3 good factors it's enough. This is too much autism
 
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a persons rating is purely based on 3 factors

jaw, eyes lips everything else doesn't matter we can talk about perfection all we want but if you have 3 good factors it's enough. This is too much autism
I pretty much agree with you, except I think the nose & chin hold importance too.

No one will be perfect, an 99.9% of people wont even come close.

Obsessing to become something unachievable is too toxic, and just retarded.
 
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a persons rating is purely based on 3 factors

jaw, eyes lips everything else doesn't matter we can talk about perfection all we want but if you have 3 good factors it's enough. This is too much autism
JFLing at you so hard with my jew nose. I would've been in an ivy league slaying asians if this shit didn't exist. It made me introvert cuck.

I honestly can't believe no one cares about nose in this forum. In Turkey ( :lul: ) it's like the most important thing.

JAW > NOSE > EYE only 3 you need.
 
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@Korea, you used to have a thread on nose shape, chin and eye shape. Where did it go I can't find it, but yet again I'm pretty shit at navigating this website lol.
 
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As a Mexican man, I'm part subhuman native and European conquistador cuh(y)
 
African ESR: (46 - .51) What dafuq .51??? Isn't that dolphin tier???? Nope, not for blacks.
I know I only provided white guys and said Indians, and Asians will suffer from this too. That's because the typical Asian/Indian Skull has fairly wide cheekbones allowing for their standard averageness to fall within the Caucasian line. Africans tend to have to most high-set cheekbones, but not the biggest.
but also, one flaw of ESR is that it doesn’t take into account PFL. Would it be possible that blacks can simply generally get away with higher ESR because they generally have higher PFL which prevents from looking like a dolphin? But if one has 28 mm PFL only, shouldn’t he use Caucasian standards for ESR instead?

Mukasa turns into a dolphin with lower PFL but same ESR :
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48D33A60 17A9 41A9 90F0 649EA20CA135

here reduced while trying to maintain the same PFL to height :
2D4CCFF1 9BB0 48CB 8206 38A7BA282259


same for that other example
9E41A946 40B2 4770 B78A 847DA04EEE48
B752BC44 4541 446C 848E E68C9062CBA5


There should be an alternative to ES ratio that takes PFL into account.
 
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but also, one flaw of ESR is that it doesn’t take into account PFL. Would it be possible that blacks can simply generally get away with higher ESR because they generally have higher PFL which prevents from looking like a dolphin? But if one has 28 mm PFL only, shouldn’t he use Caucasian standards for ESR instead?

Mukasa turns into a dolphin with lower PFL but same ESR :
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here reduced while trying to maintain the same PFL to height :
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same for that other example
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There should be an alternative to ES ratio that takes PFL into account.
Fuckk wide PFL is so important
 
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