IPD/ES RATIO/EME ANGLE is borderline meaningless for harmony

[Orka]

.49-.51? Somewhere around there, not noticeable whatsoever with wider zygos now however.

nice, i've got a .49 esr + 1.68 fwhr

Zygo filler will be helping me fix both of those ratios, along with upper lip filler

Can't wait to DIY both of these.

I do kinda want to get a complication during the process (ex, hit an artery or other vessel) just for content, it'd be funny.

 

[Orka]

not noticeable whatsoever with wider zygos now however.

wait, did you fix it with zygo filler? or is it still 0.49 just not noticeable?

 

[starborn3995]

nice, i've got a .49 esr + 1.68 fwhr

Zygo filler will be helping me fix both of those ratios, along with upper lip filler

Can't wait to DIY both of these.

I do kinda want to get a complication during the process (ex, hit an artery or other vessel) just for content, it'd be funny.

my esr is like 0.455 according to the one i had an friend help me measure, but my zygomas are very flat with my face being asymmetrical, one side is fuller than other , up to what esr is the lowest u could go and like what else

 

[Veridic]

nice, i've got a .49 esr + 1.68 fwhr

Zygo filler will be helping me fix both of those ratios, along with upper lip filler

Can't wait to DIY both of these.

I do kinda want to get a complication during the process (ex, hit an artery or other vessel) just for content, it'd be funny.

Fuck mirin, I wasn’t as knowledgeable on harmony all those years ago so I was mainly concerned with my short skull and chin recession back then. Can’t wait to see the results

 

[Orka]

my esr is like 0.455 according to the one i had an friend help me measure, but my zygomas are very flat with my face being asymmetrical, one side is fuller than other , up to what esr is the lowest u could go and like what else

0.45 is very low (bad)

wdym whats the lowest u could go?

 

[Veridic]

wait, did you fix it with zygo filler? or is it still 0.49 just not noticeable?

Objectively when it comes to my naturally developed skull the ratios remain the same so I had work done on them, although filler was my go to in the past.

Unfortunately there’s only so much you can do with filler when it comes to mitigating your esr but your ratios are definitely within that range.

 

[starborn3995]

0.45 is very low (bad)

wdym whats the lowest u could go?

what is the ideal esr then, i mean according to like these people 0.45-47 , but what the ideal 0.46 or 47 i suppose.
i meant like whats the worst case u could still live with
what could i do to fix my esr, only surgery i suppose? ill send u a picture of mine later

 

[Orka]

what is the ideal esr then, i mean according to like these people 0.45-47 , but what the ideal 0.46 or 47 i suppose.
i meant like whats the worst case u could still live with
what could i do to fix my esr, only surgery i suppose? ill send u a picture of mine later

0.47

 

[Orka]

what could i do to fix my esr, only surgery i suppose? ill send u a picture of mine later

yes, only

 

[starborn3995]

yes, only

yeah alr ill send some of my pictures later to get some help, i have my social studies finals in 2hours and am studying fucking nazism and random russian and french revolution absolute bs

 

[LKira]

PERFECT example of ideal spacing but fucked nasion

 

[GHXST11]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
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Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

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Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
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Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

W High iq post

 

[Dbst Dev]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

Was about to make a thread about this thought iam the first nigga to know it

 

[pslgod15]

im an ipdcel thanks for the guide