IPD/ES RATIO/EME ANGLE is borderline meaningless for harmony

[bladeenjoyer123]

shitskin hindu cope

 

[Mrinfinityx]

@Senssei @Golden Glass is a nose like that achievable even?
How difficult would it be?

Anyway it is impossible to improve nose bridge bone mass permanently, except wasting on fillers

 

[Mrinfinityx]

@Senssei @Golden Glass is a nose like that achievable even?
How difficult would it be?

Anyway it is impossible to improve nose bridge bone mass permanently, except wasting on fillers

 

[Mrinfinityx]

@Senssei @Golden Glass is a nose like that achievable even?
How difficult would it be?

Anyway it is impossible to improve nose bridge bone mass permanently, except wasting on fillers

 

[Deleted member 15917]

Do I have narrow or medium ipd? And what can I do to harmonize it?

 

[bladeenjoyer123]

 

[Deleted member 15917]

View attachment 1548415

Draven has tera mogger brows

 

[Deprived]

Oh my god wide eyebrow pilled again

 

[Deleted member 16802]

.

 

[Deleted member 16802]

@Senssei I have wide set eyes, my IPD is 72 measured by an optician also I have a low nose bridge so my nasal definition isn't that good and I do need to wear glasses . Which style of glasses do you recommend that'll help me cover my high IPD ?

 

[Looksmax305]

Still the goat thread

 

[Deleted member 19036]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

caged at rhis shit. essays

 

[CopeTilliRope]

It is literally always applicable, you can make extreme close set eyes look only close set and extreme wide set eyes look only wide set through this method. There is always room for big improvement.




You are an utter and complete cretin, there wasn´t even 1 mm at all added to their ipd in the morphs, the ipds are literally exactly the same in the before and after. The fact that you think I altered their ipd by some mm's actually proves my point. My ipd is literally 67mm and I have 0.47 esratio, you do not need to have a certain problem to actually discuss this problem, you low IQ monkey, otherwise all doctors treating terminal cancer patients would have terminal cancer by your amazing logics, doctors treating back problems would always have back problems themselves and so on, total retarded logic, please dont post in my threads again until you develop your brain.

Anyway, here is the guy you posted with added eyebrow length on the outer corner, trimmed inner corners , lower nasal bridge and added long eyelashes, his IPD looks improved even if I didnt touch it at all.

View attachment 243293

 

[HighClassMaxing]

i just swallowed a very large eyebrowpill and now my throat hurts

 

[Deprived]

Still the goat thread

Legit saved me I was abt to cut the ends of my eyebrows since they are negatively tilted

 

[Deleted member 15854]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

how to get wide eyebrows?

 

[Blackgymmax]

this was a garbage shit thread. deforming one feature obviously fucks up ones face you idiot.

 

[6ft4]

important thread

 

[Deleted member 2729]

I have good eye spacing and somewhat defined nosebridge. Will work on eyebrow length on inner and outer corners tho

 

[Deleted member 30845]

 

[Deleted member 30845]

 

[the MOUSE]

Thank you, @Senssei.

@Ritalincel

 

[LooxmaxxingM]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

great threads bro ,retarted on tiktok will never know about that lol they just use the harmony word in every sentence

 

[Jojobarret]

I have a wide eyespacing and flat nasion/nosebridge but the thing is I have a mulatto/black phenotype so would it look weird if I have a defined nasion whereas no black have it ?
Also I have wide set eyebrows but I feel like the nasion definition is more important for es perception.

 

[chickenfinger]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:

nice cope op, but you cant hide that you have low ipd, of course there are no significant difference on yout morp, because you just add slighty mm to their ipd, still ipd = harmony View attachment 243119 3 inches ipd or death

So if u have wide ipd you shouldnt grow your eye brow corners?

 

[Deleted member 89153]

The best post I have ever seen here. Insane OP

 

[Resistance.]

Mirin thread

 

[jackisbped]

High iq post will use this info

 

[pslgod15]

high iq thread

 

[pfl]

how are these dogshit threads in botb

 

[LTNUser]

how are these dogshit threads in botb

IPD affects the eye separation ratio and the midface ratio ,two very important measurements but somehow users don't see it
@BeanCelll

 

[BeanCelll]

IPD affects the eye separation ratio and the midface ratio ,two very important measurements but somehow users don't see it
@BeanCelll

Nah

cyclops eyes and barret midface must be ideal

 

[BeanCelll]

how are these dogshit threads in botb

A lot of the shit in here is just ai slop or bad

still not as bad of a meme as the financial section though

 

[T50CeI]

good post for a newcel

 

[Senssei]

A lot of the shit in here is just ai slop or bad

still not as bad of a meme as the financial section though

Ai slop 6 years ago, chimp IQ detected

IPD affects the eye separation ratio and the midface ratio ,two very important measurements but somehow users don't see it
@BeanCelll

And eyebrow and nose shape directly affect perceived IPD and midfacial height as proven by the images

how are these dogshit threads in botb

Maybe because it has a huge amount of likes and approval from users, idk could be that

 

[LTNUser]

Ai slop 6 years ago, chimp IQ detected

And eyebrow and nose shape directly affect perceived IPD and midfacial height as proven by the images



Maybe because it has a huge amount of likes and approval from users, idk could be that

Woah ,you still use this forum .
What are your takes on the transitions this forum has went through in the span of six years since you joined ?
Do you think the forum's state is better than it was before or has it progressively gone worse ?

 

[LTNUser]

Ai slop 6 years ago, chimp IQ detected

And eyebrow and nose shape directly affect perceived IPD and midfacial height as proven by the images

Perceived IPD is a fucking meme
You are telling me you wouldn't calculate one's actual IPD when you evaluate someone's facial harmony ?
What an utter joke this

 

[LTNUser]

@pfl was right
How did this thread get put in this section ?
Mods need to read it again and they would also realise none of this shit makes sense.

 

[CopeTilliRope]

Ai slop 6 years ago, chimp IQ detected

And eyebrow and nose shape directly affect perceived IPD and midfacial height as proven by the images



Maybe because it has a huge amount of likes and approval from users, idk could be that

one of the best thread on this retarded forum indeed. do you still maintain 6 years later than OBO is overated and a meme and that frauding perceived ipd ratio with eyebrows / lashes and nose would be a better idea? thx

btw do you know of some other camouflage way to reduce pervieived midface lenght?

 

[Senssei]

Perceived IPD is a fucking meme
You are telling me you wouldn't calculate one's actual IPD when you evaluate someone's facial harmony ?
What an utter joke this

You can calculate it, but it still doesnt mean perceived IPD isnt a thing, you had users in this thread who thought the IPD of the image examples was actually altered while they werent, that shows the power of perceived IPD. Any semi-inteligent person would agree the IPD looks diferent in the image comparisons.
You are clearly part of the dumb ones of the website, so Ill stop entertaining your desire for attention now.

 

[Senssei]

one of the best thread on this retarded forum indeed. do you still maintain 6 years later than OBO is overated and a meme and that frauding perceived ipd ratio with eyebrows / lashes and nose would be a better idea? thx

btw do you know of some other camouflage way to reduce pervieived midface lenght?

The userbase in this forum is sadly so stupid, no wonder looksmaxxing became a meme and its adepts laughstock, sad to see it as the premise is actually valid and well supported.
I still think eyebrow+nose techniques is enough to solve the harmony issues in 95% of the cases, only for the extreme outliers I think it would be valid, and even then those techniques would still give lots of improvement.

I believe augmenting chin verticality could reduce total perceived midfacial height, but that would also result in an overall longer face so you would have to analyze if it would be worth it in your particular case. But nose + eyebrows are certainly still golden standard for such cases.

 

[Dark Maxxer]

Hopeful for my low ES and IPD

 

[realshit]

Hopeful for my low ES and IPD

for close ipd just make your eyebrown wide and more distanced, increase your pfl, ofc grow hair

 

[Dark Maxxer]

How distanced should I make them where should the inner part of my eyebrow be I got close IPD. also What do you mean by increase your pfl.

You mean that wideing eyebrows will help PFL

 

[tension]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

posted on my birthday right before covid

 

[Praga 76]

this post might save my eye area thx

 

[KidFlash]

Hopeful for my low ES and IPD

Yeah the recent TikTok blowup in whining about how ipd is the most brutal thing ever is trying to make people feel more insecure about it than they actually should be

 

[Veridic]

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION.
I saw alot of people wondering how someone with such a bad ESratio as Zac Efron could still look harmonic, and a bad eme angle/midfacial ratio like Ian Sommerhalder's... the reason they have still good eye areas is because they have WIDE eye brows, that extend far beyond the outer border of the eye, which tricks our minds into thinking that their eyes are wider spaced than what they actually are, which those retarded ratios like ES RATIOS and MIDFACIAL RATIO cannot detect at all.
Another major factor that affect visually the eye spacing impression, without altering at all any ratio, is the nasion definition/projection and the nose bridge definition.
A wider, more defined nasion and nasal bridge will automatically "bring the eyes" closer together. So in the end there are things you can do that will significantly alter how spaced your eyes look.
If they look too close together, you can get a rhinplasty to get your nasion and nasal bridge as low and flatter as possible, along with using hair growth products on the outer part of your eyebrows, and trimming the inside part to make it wider.
If they look too far apart on your face, you can use hair growth products like latisse on the inner part of your eyebrows to get them as close set as you can (like Opry's), get a rhinoplasty with nasion filler/implants and make your nasal bridge more defined.

Look at Zac Efron with his wider eyebrows VS them narrowed down, his IPD looks very diferent and much harmonically worse on the right, even though his IPD, ESRATIO and MIDFACIAL RATIOS werent altered at all.
View attachment 238023

Ian Sommerhalder ipd ratios get saved by his eyebrows, which are sparse and wide set, and extend considerably beyond his outer eye corner. Look how much of a cuck he looks with them narrowed down, looks like another person.

View attachment 238029

Benedict Cumberbatch looks much better in pictures where his nasion looks very defined and wide, while if he had a flatter nose with wide eyebrows he would look totally unharmonic, look how the perception of his eye spacing looks utterly skewed on the right picture, without touching his ipd at all.
View attachment 238031

Alan Ritchson look like an uber harmonic gigachad thanks to his very defined upper nose bridge and eyebrows that extend inwards in relation to his inner eye corners, if he had a flat nose with eyebrows alligned with his inner eye corners he would look like an alien:
View attachment 238034
Now just one more example of a random model, look how his ipd looks totally diferent despite being the same, only by altering his eyebrows and nasal definition:
View attachment 238036

So ipd does matter lol. All you’re saying is that the width of the nasal region/brow spacing can help make up for this.

I’d go to say that your bizygomatic contributes to this as well.

Speaking as a dolphincel

 

[Orka]

Speaking as a dolphincel

whats ur ESR? same here, but I'll be fixing this with zygo filler

 

[Veridic]

whats ur ESR? same here, but I'll be fixing this with zygo filler

.49-.51? Somewhere around there, not noticeable whatsoever with wider zygos now however.