IS NO FAP EVEN WORTH IT?(yes another nofap thread)

[goat2x]

im on a suicide watch after seeng this results
before nofap

after no fap

i found some reddit blood work results aswell

I had bloodwork done in November 2017 - Total testosterone @ 15 nmol/L

After 3 months of NoFap my new bloodwork this week showed - Total testosterone @ 11 nmol/L




the nofap community says that it doesnt boosts androgen sensitivity because of a few rat studies
"Humans appear to have built-in mechanisms that encourage a period of recovery after sexual satiety. Interestingly, animal studies reveal that androgen receptors (which respond to testosterone) temporarily decline with each ejaculation, suppressing libido for some period of time. "

here are all the studies

Post-climax effects - Androgen receptors and serum testosterone

Humans appear to have built-in mechanisms encouraging a recovery period after sexual satiety. Androgen receptors temporarily decline with each ejaculation

synergyexplorers.org

are rat studies even worth looking at?

 

[Incoming]

Fapping once a week is ideal but nofap is much better than cooming everyday

 

[Deleted member 5927]

it is so over for the average male

>fap and become depressed and lazy
>do not fap and become motivated low T and horny

 

[Deleted member 6873]

NoFap is only worth it if you're:
A porn addict
Beating your meat 4 times a day, in that case yes it's worth it cause of the amounts of nutrients you lose.

NoPorn mogs

 

[goat2x]

Fapping once a week is ideal but nofap is much better than cooming everyday

bro
i thought my fellow brocels will help me out and say
"nofap is bullshit'
so i can beat my meat

 

[Deleted member 6873]

bro
i thought my fellow brocels will help me out and say
"nofap is bullshit'
so i can beat my meat

Just dont watch porn whilst doing it

 

[goat2x]

NoFap is only worth it if you're:
A porn addict
Beating your meat 4 times a day, in that case yes it's worth it cause of the amounts of nutrients you lose.

NoPorn mogs

just imagine things
or
leaked onlyfans pics r good to go?

 

[betamanlet]

Fapping once a week is ideal

This meme just does not die.

 

[stuckneworleans]

NoFap is still legit for will power and focus, nigga just cortisolmaxxed and didn't excercise so his T levels dropped

 

[Incoming]

This meme just does not die.

Explain

 

[Deleted member 6873]

just imagine things
or
leaked onlyfans pics r good to go?

Imagination imo.

 

[goat2x]

NoFap is still legit for will power and focus, nigga just cortisolmaxxed and didn't excercise so his T levels dropped

its legit for aggression and low inhibition too im not doubting that

 

[betamanlet]

Explain

Everyone parrots that fapping once a week is ideal. No one is able to back it up with anything reasonable.

 

[goat2x]

Everyone parrots that fapping once a week is ideal. No one is able to back it up with anything reasonable.

its because 2 studies show that

 

[goat2x]

here are all the science we know about nofap today
Human
A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men

Orgasmic frequency and plasma testosterone levels in normal human males

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence

Androgen Regulation of the Mesocorticolimbic System and Executive Function

Animal
Anabolic androgens restore mating after sexual satiety in male rats

Changes in the sexual behavior and testosterone levels of male rats in response to daily interactions with estrus females

Effects of testosterone metabolites on copulation and medial preoptic dopamine release in castrated male rats

Hormonal responses to different sexually related conditions in male rats

Relationship Between Sexual Satiety and Brain Androgen Receptors

Relationship between sexual satiety and motivation, brain androgen receptors and testosterone in male mandarin voles

Sexual Behavior Reduces Hypothalamic Androgen Receptor Immunoreactivity

Testosterone restoration of copulatory behavior correlates with medial preoptic dopamine release in castrated male rats

 

[Deleted member 1862]

im on a suicide watch after seeng this results
before nofap
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after no fap
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hair is stored in the balls

 

[goat2x]

hair is stored in the balls

mirin the low iq

 

[betamanlet]

its because 2 studies show that

This is another meme. No such study exists. You've got one short-term study that shows that after 7 days free testosterone levels return to baseline (which is due to increased androgen utilization). Other studies show that even long term abstinence leads to higher free testosterone.

Moreover:

1) free testosterone is practically meaningless, since it's not the testosterone that is in your blood that matters, but the testosterone that is taken up by your receptors.

2) androgen activity is more than just testosterone, and the hormonal benefits of abstinence are more than just androgen activity:

 

[Incoming]

hair is stored in the balls

 

[goat2x]

This is another meme. No such study exists. You've got one short-term study that shows that after 7 days free testosterone levels return to baseline (which is due to increased androgen utilization). Other studies show that even long term abstinence leads to higher free testosterone.

Moreover:

1) free testosterone is practically meaningless, since it's not the testosterone that is in your blood that matters, but the testosterone that is taken up by your receptors.

2) androgen activity is more than just testosterone, and the hormonal benefits of abstinence are more than just androgen activity:

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"You've got one short-term study that shows that after 7 days free testosterone levels return to baseline"
but before that 7 day mark it increases ,highest being in the 7 day mark , then it drops down to base line
1, i already said that

 

[betamanlet]

"You've got one short-term study that shows that after 7 days free testosterone levels return to baseline"
but before that 7 day mark it increases ,highest being in the 7 day mark , then it drops down to base line
1, i already said that

What's your point?

 

[goat2x]

What's your point?

i mean whats ur point lol
you wrote an essay about things i didnt even ask or say

here is the graph

 

[betamanlet]

i mean whats ur point lol
you wrote an essay about things i didnt even ask or say
View attachment 503747
here is the graph

You are the one replying to a post that was not aimed at you. Your claim is that two studies show that fapping once a week is optimal. I explained why no such studies exist. If a few lines is an essay to you, I feel sorry for you.

 

[goat2x]

You are the one replying to a post that was not aimed at you. Your claim is that two studies show that fapping once a week is optimal. I explained why no such studies exist.

no its only one study that after the 7 day it drops down again so it might be better to do cycles

 

[goat2x]

You are the one replying to a post that was not aimed at you. Your claim is that two studies show that fapping once a week is optimal. I explained why no such studies exist. If a few lines is an essay to you, I feel sorry for you.

 

[betamanlet]

no its only one study that after the 7 day it drops down again so it might be better to do cycles

I already addressed this in my "essay" (lol).

 

[goat2x]

I already addressed this in my "essay" (lol).

yea i see it now
i misunderstood it
but how do you know its androgen utilization

 

[Timelessbrah]

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FROM SUBHUMAN TO SUBHUMAN AFTER MUH MUH MUH NOFAP

LMAO WHOEVER BELIEVES THIS A RETARD BEYOND MEASURE.

 

[betamanlet]

yea i see it now
i misunderstood it
but how do you know its androgen utilization

Alright.

1) the test has to go somewhere. It is either converted to DHT or directly utilized by the receptors
2) studies show that androgen utilization is increased by abstinence (or, rather, temporarily lowered by ejaculation)

 

[Maxout]

no fap = good

 

[goat2x]

Alright.

1) the test has to go somewhere. It is either converted to DHT or directly utilized by the receptors
2) studies show that androgen utilization is increased by abstinence (or, rather, temporarily lowered by ejaculation)

"the test has to go somewhere"
how do you know your test is increasing at all after 7 days?
which study?

 

[CopeTilliRope]

no fap is worth it if you got ED/ peyronie / want to dopamine detox/ or got hair that are extra sensitive to prolactine release

 

[betamanlet]

"the test has to go somewhere"
how do you know your test is increasing at all after 7 days?
which study?

By that line I am referring to the peak at 7 days. The serum test does not just magically disappear after 7 days i.e. it goes somewhere. Regarding the study about elevated testosterone beyond the seven days, you already posted it above:

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence

synergyexplorers.org

 

[goat2x]

By that line I am referring to the peak at 7 days. The serum test does not just magically disappear after 7 days i.e. it goes somewhere. Regarding the study about elevated testosterone beyond the seven days, you already posted it above:

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence

synergyexplorers.org

okay
so what your opinion on nofap

 

[betamanlet]

okay
so what your opinion on nofap

I think celibacy is the default mode of man apart from procreation, and that anything that deviates from this results in lesser wellbeing.

 

[goat2x]

By that line I am referring to the peak at 7 days. The serum test does not just magically disappear after 7 days i.e. it goes somewhere. Regarding the study about elevated testosterone beyond the seven days, you already posted it above:

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence

synergyexplorers.org

what if its absorbed at the 7th day then its not producing more than baseline?

 

[MogTheMogger]

imagine thinking you beating your meat is being alpha instead of nofapping and saving your cum to fuck some bitches. do you think chad cares about fapping everyday?. he doesnt need that. he does things and get rewarded with either sex or ioi's.

 

[goat2x]

imagine thinking you beating your meat is being alpha instead of nofapping and saving your cum to fuck some bitches. do you think chad cares about fapping everyday?. he doesnt need that. he does things and get rewarded with either sex or ioi's.

imagine thinking that chad gets laid everyday you utter subhuman
chads dont give a fuck bet they arent thinking about when they are about to masturbate and
"muhh my T levels"
keep sucking chads cock

 

[MogTheMogger]

imagine thinking that chad gets laid everyday you utter subhuman
chads dont give a fuck bet they arent thinking about when they are about to masturbate and
"muhh my T levels"
keep sucking chads cock

imagine not having a reading comprehension and read again you absolute faggot subhuman ethnic fuck. keep beating your meat and rotting you faggot fuck

 

[goat2x]

imagine not having a reading comprehension and read again you absolute faggot subhuman ethnic fuck. keep beating your meat and rotting you faggot fuck

imagine thinkin that u are hard u utter subhuman
guess what i didnt read your pathetic low reply because i knew it is trash
lookin back at it my prediction was right
you are a waste of cum stop wasting my time with ur useless shit low iq opinion
ur a single digit iq beta weak cuck
get off this thread suck chads cock instead you sissy faggot just dont comeback

 

[MogTheMogger]

imagine thinkin that u are hard u utter subhuman
guess what i didnt read your pathetic low reply because i knew it is trash
lookin back at it my prediction was right
you are a waste of cum stop wasting my time with ur useless shit low iq opinion
ur a single digit iq beta weak cuck
get off this thread suck chads cock instead you sissy faggot just dont comeback

not even a word, kill yourself you ethnic trash, not worth my time. last reply truecel.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

imagine thinking you beating your meat is being alpha instead of nofapping and saving your cum to fuck some bitches. do you think chad cares about fapping everyday?. he doesnt need that. he does things and get rewarded with either sex or ioi's.

Having a comparison mindset isn't good imo. "Chad does x while you do y" okay and? Instead focus on what you do......

 

[goat2x]

not even a word, kill yourself you ethnic trash, not worth my time. last reply truecel.

"last reply truecel. "
thats why i like you
yo uare my obedient dog
good choice my little bitch

 

[Deleted member 1862]

mirin the low iq

iq is stored in the balls

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

imagine thinkin that u are hard u utter subhuman
guess what i didnt read your pathetic low reply because i knew it is trash
lookin back at it my prediction was right
you are a waste of cum stop wasting my time with ur useless shit low iq opinion
ur a single digit iq beta weak cuck
get off this thread suck chads cock instead you sissy faggot just dont comeback

why do you aggro everybody that talks to you?

 

[goat2x]

why do you aggro everybody that talks to you?

" imagine not having a reading comprehension and read again you absolute faggot subhuman ethnic fuck. keep beating your meat and rotting you faggot fuck "
that was his answer to me
as far as im concerned i am far more superior to this faggot cuck

 

[Rochefort6]

Yes, if you care about your purpose in life, hard work, goal oriented behavior in general more than you do instant pleasure+depression+sex+lack of human connection, which I doubt you do, but if you do, then 100%

 

[goat2x]

Yes, if you care about your purpose in life, hard work, goal oriented behavior in general more than you do instant pleasure+depression+sex+lack of human connection, which I doubt you do, but if you do, then 100%

i doubt you care about these either you brainlet subhuman

 

[Rochefort6]

i doubt you care about these either you brainlet subhuman

Aw cute. Keep projecting loser.

 

[goat2x]

Aw cute. Keep projecting loser.

you were projecting in the first place you degenerate subhuman
its okay bro i knew that you are single digit iq from the start
slit ur wrist fag