"JUST HOP ON FIN BRO"

[TsarTsar444]

Nothing. I just work out regularly and have good diet. I think people who get sides have unhealthy lifestyles.



1mg 3 times a week. I watched “The Hairloss Show” on yt and the doctors in that show said that 3x a week is just as effective as 7x a week since after 1 tablet your dht takes 4 days to get back to normal so taking it everyday is not necessary.



Wasn’t balding tbh took it as a preventive measure since my dad is already bald and i cannot take any chances.

Low inhib, but I'm scared shitless tbh to do it cause I'm only 19

 

[Salludon]

What about 0,25 3x a week? Or is 1 better

1mg is better. 0.25 is too low imo and cutting a 1mg tablet in 4 pieces would a pain in the ass since the tablet is already tiny.

Low inhib, but I'm scared shitless tbh to do it cause I'm only 19

yeah wait for a year. Start taking it when you’re 20. You can take it now it won’t hurt but just to be one the safe side take it when you’re out of your teens since dht is important during puberty.

 

[lifestyle21873]

1mg is better. 0.25 is too low imo and cutting a 1mg tablet in 4 pieces would a pain in the ass since the tablet is already tiny.



yeah wait for a year. Start taking it when you’re 20. You can take it now it won’t hurt but just to be one the safe side take it when you’re out of your teens since dht is important during puberty.

Should i take it rn at 18 Bro

 

[Salludon]

Should i take it rn at 18 Bro

If you’re balding really fast then take it. You’re pretty much done with puberty at 18 and excess dht has not much use after that in body. But some people hit puberty late and you might be one of them so just to be on the safe side i’d say wait for a year or two.

 

[xdxdxnice1]

i’m starting fin anyway idc about my dick not working or any other side effects

long hair or death

 

[TsarTsar444]

If you’re balding really fast then take it. You’re pretty much done with puberty at 18 and excess dht has not much use after that in body. But some people hit puberty late and you might be one of them so just to be on the safe side i’d say wait for a year or two.

Dht has effects on bear growth or something like that, I have still no beard almost so nuking dht will leave me beardless

 

[Salludon]

Dht has effects on bear growth or something like that, I have still no beard almost so nuking dht will leave me beardless

It’s way more complicated than that. For example AlphaDestiny on youtube was norwooding extremely fast even in teens but he had zero facial hair growth. If just dht was the cause of facial hair growth he’d have very thick facial hair but he was beardless so he used minoxidil on his beard for 2 years to grow it. Now he has good beard but he’s almost nw3.

 

[lifestyle21873]

It’s way more complicated than that. For example AlphaDestiny on youtube was norwooding extremely fast even in teens but he had zero facial hair growth. If just dht was the cause of facial hair growth he’d have very thick facial hair but he was beardless so he used minoxidil on his beard for 2 years to grow it. Now he has good beard but he’s almost nw3.

So if i have beard and use fin will my beard get removed ?

 

[Salludon]

So if i have beard and use fin will my beard get removed ?

What? No lol. My beard is the same as it was 8 months ago.

 

[lifestyle21873]

What? No lol. My beard is the same as it was 8 months ago.

Ok thx

 

[TsarTsar444]

It’s way more complicated than that. For example AlphaDestiny on youtube was norwooding extremely fast even in teens but he had zero facial hair growth. If just dht was the cause of facial hair growth he’d have very thick facial hair but he was beardless so he used minoxidil on his beard for 2 years to grow it. Now he has good beard but he’s almost nw3.

Yeah I know that dht doesn't guarantee you will have beard it's about genetics but genetics without dht don't work. Dht is the key and genetics the lock, I you don't have dht you can't achieve you genetic limit for beards and all males in my family have good beards but I'm almost 20 and only mustache and chin sparse beard.

But im actually not sure if it's dht or T that's responsible for beard

 

[Pussyslayer]

What? No lol. My beard is the same as it was 8 months ago.

No sides whatsoever? And you seen new hair growth?

 

[fukmylyf]

@Zyros ur a good dude. I just wanted to let u know

 

[Deleted member 773]

Yeah, thanks no, I'd rather not trust mentally ill people.

Post-Finasteride Syndrome: An Induced Delusional Disorder with the Potential of a Mass Psychogenic Illness?

Post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) has been claimed to occur in men who have taken oral finasteride to treat either hair loss or benign prostatic hyperplasia, independent of age, dosage, or indication. By definition, the condition is characterized by sexual dysfunction, somatic symptoms, and...

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If you actually read that article, it's beyond laughable. It includes Star Wars quotes about how "My body is my mind." For starters. Then the actual study is just a survey handed to a single PFS patient about depression. Surprise surprise, the 25 year old with erectile dysfunction is depressed. Then they link a study linking depression to erectile dysfunction, and in an insane showcase of mental gymnastics, deduct PFS as a somatic disorder.

This article was written by a dermatologist. Here he clearly insults his patient, who has visited the clinic with his mother, and is suffering from erectile dysfunction from Finasteride. "Every attempt to challenge his conviction aroused a strong, immature emotional reaction, with irritability and hostility. He expressed a heightened sense of self-reference, bordering on selfishness, and the atmosphere surrounding his belief was highly charged. He denied both a history of depression or a current depressive episode. " A "strong emotional reaction"? With "irritability and hostility"? A "heightened sense of self-reference"? Is Prof. Ralph M. Trüeb, MD a dermatologists or psychiatrist? What right does he have to even talk about a patient of his like that in a clinical study?

There is no scientific analysis in this article whatsoever. The biggest study on PFS will be coming out in September of this year, it's a study on gene expression and DNA methylation in PFS patients. It doesn't look pretty: https://looksmax.org/threads/new-study-finasteride-damages-more-than-10-000-genes.183872/

 

[Deleted member 4645]

If you actually read that article, it's beyond laughable. It includes Star Wars quotes about how "My body is my mind." For starters. Then the actual study is just a survey handed to a single PFS patient about depression. Surprise surprise, the 25 year old with erectile dysfunction is depressed. Then they link a study linking depression to erectile dysfunction, and in an insane showcase of mental gymnastics, deduct PFS as a somatic disorder.

This article was written by a dermatologist. Here he clearly insults his patient, who has visited the clinic with his mother, and is suffering from erectile dysfunction from Finasteride. "Every attempt to challenge his conviction aroused a strong, immature emotional reaction, with irritability and hostility. He expressed a heightened sense of self-reference, bordering on selfishness, and the atmosphere surrounding his belief was highly charged. He denied both a history of depression or a current depressive episode. " A "strong emotional reaction"? With "irritability and hostility"? A "heightened sense of self-reference"? Is Prof. Ralph M. Trüeb, MD a dermatologists or psychiatrist? What right does he have to even talk about a patient of his like that in a clinical study?

There is no scientific analysis in this article whatsoever. The biggest study on PFS will be coming out in September of this year, it's a study on gene expression and DNA methylation in PFS patients. It doesn't look pretty: https://looksmax.org/threads/new-study-finasteride-damages-more-than-10-000-genes.183872/

You can try to discredit his studies by name calling him, he's not the only one to have concluded that people with PFS suffer from psychosomatic symptoms.

I'm getting closer and closer to NW1 with Fin and Minox, with no side effects. Like 98% of Finasteride users.

If I listened to a loud minority of fearmongers, I'd be crying in a corner with a NW3 in my early 20's.

It's irrational to demonize drugs that can properly treat Alopecia just because a few mentally unstable folks (a minority amongst the minority of people who get sides aka a minority amongst the 2%) claim to still have side effects 15 years after using Fin.

TL;DR : 98% of patients get good results, the vast majority of people who get sides (2%) see them vanish, a fraction of those 2% report persistency over a period of decades.

You choose who to trust. I personally made my choice.

 

[Deleted member 773]

You can try to discredit his studies by name calling him, he's not the only one to have concluded that people with PFS suffer from psychosomatic symptoms.

I'm getting closer and closer to NW1 with Fin and Minox, with no side effects. Like 98% of Finasteride users.

If I listened to a loud minority of fearmongers, I'd be crying in a corner with a NW3 in my early 20's.

It's irrational to demonize drugs that can properly treat Alopecia just because a few mentally unstable folks (a minority amongst the minority of people who get sides aka a minority amongst the 2%) claim to still have side effects 15 years after using Fin.

TL;DR : 98% of patients get good results, the vast majority of people who get sides (2%) see them vanish, a fraction of those 2% report persistency over a period of decades.

You choose who to trust. I personally made my choice.

What if I told you there are studies that claim 98% of people DO get sides from Finasteride?

What if I told you that every study that claims PFS is a “somatic” disorder contains no scientific analysis, and PSSD, which was also thought for many years to be a somatic disorder, is officially recognized in Europe? What are you going to say when PFS starts getting officially recognized? Many comprehensive studies are coming out.

There is no “trusting” people in science. There is only objective scientific study, science is not a weapon, and I never insulted the author of that study. HE is the foolish one, as dermatologists have absolutely no right to diagnose somatic type disorders. I have PFS you fucking idiot. If you brought me up to a psychiatrist I would not pass any of the depression or anxiety tests, because I don’t have them. Yet I still have PFS.

 

[Deleted member 4645]

What if I told you there are studies that claim 98% of people DO get sides from Finasteride?

What if I told you that every study that claims PFS is a “somatic” disorder contains no scientific analysis, and PSSD, which was also thought for many years to be a somatic disorder, is officially recognized in Europe? What are you going to say when PFS starts getting officially recognized? Many comprehensive studies are coming out.

There is no “trusting” people in science. There is only objective scientific study, science is not a weapon, and I never insulted the author of that study. HE is the foolish one, as dermatologists have absolutely no right to diagnose somatic type disorders. I have PFS you fucking idiot. If you brought me up to a psychiatrist I would not pass any of the depression or anxiety tests, because I don’t have them. Yet I still have PFS.

I doubt there are studies indicating that 98% of peoole get sides. At least, certainly not the sides we think of when we typically talk about Finasteride.

Even if those studies existed, I still wouldn't care, as long as it works for me, as I'm not trying to prove that Fin is 100% safe, but that it is a case by case scenario.

Also, using your own reasoning, we shouldn't trust people with PFS either, including you, since the objective science still hasn't established a clear case of actual syndrome.

Lastly, you might need to take a test not for depression or anxiety, but for delusional disorders.

I hope you get better. Good luck.

 

[Deleted member 6963]

If you are worried, get bloodwork done before as a baseline. Maybe if you have low free test to begin with, the estrogen might make you a bit bloated...

If the side effects are hormonal, you should be able to reverse them by getting the hormones back to baseline (with other drugs).
If not, it's probably a mental/depression related issue.