KALAAM COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF GOD/AN ULTIMATE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE

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Of course i will explain some things first before the argument itself.

To begin, we must understand what a cosmological argument is, a cosmological argument, in natural theology, is an argument that affirms that the existence of God can be inferred from facts related to causality, explanation, change, movement, contingency, dependence or finitude. with respect to the universe or some totality of objects. A cosmological argument may also sometimes be referred to as a universal causality argument, a first cause argument, the causal argument, or the prime mover argument. Whatever term is used, there are two basic variants of the argument, each with subtle but important distinctions: in esse (essentiality) and in fieri (becoming). The basic premises of all of these arguments involve the concept of causality. The conclusion of these arguments is that there is a first cause (for any group of things that are argued to have a cause), which will later be considered God. The history of this argument dates back to Aristotle or earlier, was developed in Neoplatonism and early Christianity and later in medieval Islamic theology during the 9th to 12th centuries, and was reintroduced to medieval Christian theology in the 13th century by Thomas of Aquinas. The cosmological argument is closely related to the principle of sufficient reason as addressed by Gottfried Leibniz and Samuel Clarke, itself a modern exposition of the claim that "nothing comes from nothing" attributed to Parmenides.


START OF THE KALAAM ARGUMENT

The main point of the argument is based on a simple syllogism:

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause

2. The universe began to exist

3. Therefore the universe has a cause

Given the conclusion, an additional premise and conclusion are added based on a conceptual analysis of the properties of the cause of the universe:

4. The universe has a cause

5. If the universe has a cause, then there is a personal and uncaused Creator of the universe who without (without) the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless, and enormously powerful.

6. Therefore, there is a personal and causeless Creator of the universe, who without the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.

-Referring to the implications of classical theism that follow from this argument, it is said that... "transcending the entire universe there is a cause that brought the universe into existence ex nihilo... our entire universe was caused to exist by something else beyond him and greater than him", Ex nihilo refers to the belief that matter is not eternal but had to be created by some divine creative act, often defined as God. It is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist. Contrast with Ex nihilo nihil fit or "nothing arises from nothing", meaning that all things were formed from pre-existing things.


-Now going more in depth with the premises of the first syllogism, starting with 1:

Several arguments are given to prove the truth of this first premise.

Rational intuition: The first premise is claimed to be evidently true, as it is based on the metaphysical intuition that "something cannot arise from nothing", or "Ex nihilo nihil fit", which originates in Parmenidean philosophy. The fact that something is born without any cause is being born from nothing, which is absurd.


The other argument that is presented is that if it is false, it would be inexplicable why anything and everything does not arise at random without a cause so the other person by denying it would be committing "Reductio ad absurdum"


The last argument is inductive reasoning, both from common experience and scientific evidence, which constantly verifies and never falsifies the truth of the first premise.


MORE TO COME.
 
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@DildoFaggins @mogstars only religiouscells i know on here
 
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  1. Scientific evidence that the universe began to exist a finite time ago at the Big Bang, if it began a finite time ago it logically had a beginning or cause
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/wri...ence-of-god-and-the-beginning-of-the-universe
  1. The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theorem, a cosmological theorem that deduces that any universe that, on average, has been expanding throughout its history cannot be infinite in the past, but must have a space limit. past time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borde–Guth–Vilenkin_theorem-Now, taking into account that this Kalam argument is a deductive argument, if the 2 premises are true the truth of the conclusion necessarily follows and its conclusion is a logical consequence
 
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  1. In a review of Craig's book The Kalam Cosmological Argument, published in 1979, Michael Martin states: "It should be obvious that Craig's conclusion that a single personal agent created the universe is a non sequitur. At most, this argument Kalam shows that some personal agent or agents created the universe. Craig cannot validly conclude that a single agent is the creator. On the contrary, from everything he shows, there may be billions of personal agents involved in the creation." Martin also claims that Craig has not justified his claim of creation "ex nihilo", pointing out that the universe may have been created from pre-existing material in a timeless or eternal state. Furthermore, Craig takes his argument too far than his premises allow by deducing that the creative agent is larger than the universe. To do this, he cites the example of a parent who "creates" a child who eventually becomes bigger than he or she. In the later Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology, published in 2009, Craig analyzes the properties of the cause of the universe, arguing that they follow as consequences of a conceptual analysis and of the cause of the universe and by implication of the initial syllogism of the argument and argues that following:

    1. A first state of the material world cannot have a material explanation and must originate ex nihilo in being without a material cause, because no natural explanation can be causally prior to the very existence of the natural world (space-time and its contents). It necessarily follows that the cause is outside of space and time (timeless, spaceless), immaterial, and enormously powerful, bringing into existence the entirety of material reality.
    1. Even if a plurality of causes are postulated before the origin of the universe, the causal chain must end in a cause that is absolutely first and uncaused, otherwise an infinite regress of causes would arise, which Craig and Sinclair argue is impossible.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_regress
    1. Occam's Razor holds that the uniqueness of the First Cause must be assumed unless there are specific reasons to believe that there is more than one uncaused cause.
    1. Agent causation, volitional action, is the only ontological condition in which an effect can arise in the absence of prior determining conditions. Therefore, only personal free will can explain the origin of a first temporary effect of an immutable cause.
    -Craig concludes that the cause of the universe's existence is a "personal, uncaused Creator...who without the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless, and enormously powerful"; commenting on the theological implications of this union of properties.
 
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NOW THE TESIS:

-Something must begin to exist with a cause or without a cause, then, like everything, it must follow these 2 options. If you prove that something existing without a cause is contradictory, then everything that begins to exist must have a cause.

-If the universe began to exist and everything has a cause, therefore something cannot arise from nothing, this cause of the universe cannot be material, metaphysical or natural etc.... then its cause has to be a personal creator , no cause of the universe that is immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.

-The law of causality where everything has a cause and is caused by something is a universal law since we assume it universally, therefore the God creator of the universe would have to be an agent external to the universe therefore he does not have to be governed by this law .
 
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Of course i will explain some things first before the argument itself.

To begin, we must understand what a cosmological argument is, a cosmological argument, in natural theology, is an argument that affirms that the existence of God can be inferred from facts related to causality, explanation, change, movement, contingency, dependence or finitude. with respect to the universe or some totality of objects. A cosmological argument may also sometimes be referred to as a universal causality argument, a first cause argument, the causal argument, or the prime mover argument. Whatever term is used, there are two basic variants of the argument, each with subtle but important distinctions: in esse (essentiality) and in fieri (becoming). The basic premises of all of these arguments involve the concept of causality. The conclusion of these arguments is that there is a first cause (for any group of things that are argued to have a cause), which will later be considered God. The history of this argument dates back to Aristotle or earlier, was developed in Neoplatonism and early Christianity and later in medieval Islamic theology during the 9th to 12th centuries, and was reintroduced to medieval Christian theology in the 13th century by Thomas of Aquinas. The cosmological argument is closely related to the principle of sufficient reason as addressed by Gottfried Leibniz and Samuel Clarke, itself a modern exposition of the claim that "nothing comes from nothing" attributed to Parmenides.


START OF THE KALAAM ARGUMENT

The main point of the argument is based on a simple syllogism:

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause

2. The universe began to exist

3. Therefore the universe has a cause

Given the conclusion, an additional premise and conclusion are added based on a conceptual analysis of the properties of the cause of the universe:

4. The universe has a cause

5. If the universe has a cause, then there is a personal and uncaused Creator of the universe who without (without) the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless, and enormously powerful.

6. Therefore, there is a personal and causeless Creator of the universe, who without the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.

-Referring to the implications of classical theism that follow from this argument, it is said that... "transcending the entire universe there is a cause that brought the universe into existence ex nihilo... our entire universe was caused to exist by something else beyond him and greater than him", Ex nihilo refers to the belief that matter is not eternal but had to be created by some divine creative act, often defined as God. It is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist. Contrast with Ex nihilo nihil fit or "nothing arises from nothing", meaning that all things were formed from pre-existing things.


-Now going more in depth with the premises of the first syllogism, starting with 1:

Several arguments are given to prove the truth of this first premise.

Rational intuition: The first premise is claimed to be evidently true, as it is based on the metaphysical intuition that "something cannot arise from nothing", or "Ex nihilo nihil fit", which originates in Parmenidean philosophy. The fact that something is born without any cause is being born from nothing, which is absurd.


The other argument that is presented is that if it is false, it would be inexplicable why anything and everything does not arise at random without a cause so the other person by denying it would be committing "Reductio ad absurdum"


The last argument is inductive reasoning, both from common experience and scientific evidence, which constantly verifies and never falsifies the truth of the first premise.


MORE TO COME.


"Because I have never observed something coming into existence without coming from a substratum it cannot occur" is equivalent to arguing that "because I cannot empirically observe eternity it does not exist."
Maimonides
 
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>Post img's that make other beliefs seem like chad and mines seem like soyjak

>Does not disprove my argument whatsoever

False chad?
(i will use your bio also thank you)
What I sent is unrelated to your post tbh
 
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"Because I have never observed something coming into existence without coming from a substratum it cannot occur" is equivalent to arguing that "because I cannot empirically observe eternity it does not exist."
Maimonides
-Something must begin to exist with a cause or without a cause, then, like everything, it must follow these 2 options. If you prove that something existing without a cause is contradictory, then everything that begins to exist must have a cause.

-If the universe began to exist and everything has a cause, therefore something cannot arise from nothing, this cause of the universe cannot be material, metaphysical or natural etc.... then its cause has to be a personal creator , no cause of the universe that is immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.

-Grabbing a fragment from the law of causality where everything has a cause and is caused by something is a universal law since we assume it universally, therefore the God creator of the universe would have to be an agent external to the universe therefore he does not have to be governed by this law.
 

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Is this some gnostic bs

Cuz I dnrd
 
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Is this some gnostic bs

Cuz I dnrd
It’s more like a deist thing, I will try to branch it to the point where is prove the existence of the Christian God
 
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Literally the absolute concept of the sufficient cause (logical principle) implies that everything occupies a cause to be or be, for example, you exist because your parents had sex and here you are, you were the cause of your parents' result in having sexual relations, and this applies to everything and corrupting it would imply ceasing to exist.

About God he does not qualify as not existing because God is biconditional on causality.
 
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Of course i will explain some things first before the argument itself.

To begin, we must understand what a cosmological argument is, a cosmological argument, in natural theology, is an argument that affirms that the existence of God can be inferred from facts related to causality, explanation, change, movement, contingency, dependence or finitude. with respect to the universe or some totality of objects. A cosmological argument may also sometimes be referred to as a universal causality argument, a first cause argument, the causal argument, or the prime mover argument. Whatever term is used, there are two basic variants of the argument, each with subtle but important distinctions: in esse (essentiality) and in fieri (becoming). The basic premises of all of these arguments involve the concept of causality. The conclusion of these arguments is that there is a first cause (for any group of things that are argued to have a cause), which will later be considered God. The history of this argument dates back to Aristotle or earlier, was developed in Neoplatonism and early Christianity and later in medieval Islamic theology during the 9th to 12th centuries, and was reintroduced to medieval Christian theology in the 13th century by Thomas of Aquinas. The cosmological argument is closely related to the principle of sufficient reason as addressed by Gottfried Leibniz and Samuel Clarke, itself a modern exposition of the claim that "nothing comes from nothing" attributed to Parmenides.


START OF THE KALAAM ARGUMENT

The main point of the argument is based on a simple syllogism:

1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause

2. The universe began to exist

3. Therefore the universe has a cause

Given the conclusion, an additional premise and conclusion are added based on a conceptual analysis of the properties of the cause of the universe:

4. The universe has a cause

5. If the universe has a cause, then there is a personal and uncaused Creator of the universe who without (without) the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless, and enormously powerful.

6. Therefore, there is a personal and causeless Creator of the universe, who without the universe is beginningless, immutable, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.

-Referring to the implications of classical theism that follow from this argument, it is said that... "transcending the entire universe there is a cause that brought the universe into existence ex nihilo... our entire universe was caused to exist by something else beyond him and greater than him", Ex nihilo refers to the belief that matter is not eternal but had to be created by some divine creative act, often defined as God. It is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe comes to exist. Contrast with Ex nihilo nihil fit or "nothing arises from nothing", meaning that all things were formed from pre-existing things.


-Now going more in depth with the premises of the first syllogism, starting with 1:

Several arguments are given to prove the truth of this first premise.

Rational intuition: The first premise is claimed to be evidently true, as it is based on the metaphysical intuition that "something cannot arise from nothing", or "Ex nihilo nihil fit", which originates in Parmenidean philosophy. The fact that something is born without any cause is being born from nothing, which is absurd.


The other argument that is presented is that if it is false, it would be inexplicable why anything and everything does not arise at random without a cause so the other person by denying it would be committing "Reductio ad absurdum"


The last argument is inductive reasoning, both from common experience and scientific evidence, which constantly verifies and never falsifies the truth of the first premise.


MORE TO COME.
Who made God then yakhi
 

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