My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

[Gaia262]

Btw I was wondering : What prevented you to do the surgery first/surgery only method? Were your teeth actually crooked or did your overbite got camoufled by an orthodontist in the past and because of that you needed your teeth decompensated again?

I had camouflage orthodontics in the past, so this was needed to be reversed first through decompensation.

 

[Slyfex8]

I had camouflage orthodontics in the past, so this was needed to be reversed first through decompensation.

I see. I heard a way to do surgery first/only on a camouflage patient was to use CCW rotation so you can get more advancement from BSSO. But obviously the patient needs to have a longish face and steep occlusal plane which was obviously not your case since you had more of a short face.

I hope I will benefit from my steep occlusal plane and long face so I can get surgery first/only despite my currently camoufled overbite.. Wearing braces again for 1 year would be a pain in the ass especially considering my teeth did stayed very straight

 

[Slyfex8]

I see. I heard a way to do surgery first/only on a camouflage patient was to use CCW rotation so you can get more advancement from BSSO. But obviously the patient needs to have a longish face and steep occlusal plane which was obviously not your case since you had more of a short face.

I hope I will benefit from my steep occlusal plane and long face so I can get surgery first/only despite my currently camoufled overbite.. Wearing braces again for 1 year would be a pain in the ass especially considering my teeth did stayed very straight

How did Ramieri evaluated you were not a candidate for surgery first from online consultation? Did he asked for some scans? If so what kind of scan if you remember?

 

[Gaia262]

How did Ramieri evaluated you were not a candidate for surgery first from online consultation? Did he asked for some scans? If so what kind of scan if you remember?

Yeah i had advanced Icat scans and sent him my dicom files and he pulled it up on his software to evaluate. I think he should be able to do it with a basic Cephalometric scan.

He will also liase with your orthodontist who will evaluate you in person of how orthodontics will go.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Is premolar extraction a must?
I thought only wisdom teeth removal is

 

[Gaia262]

Is premolar extraction a must?
I thought only wisdom teeth removal is

Wisdom teeth is usually a must as this is where the BSSO cut is ontop of my wisdom teeth taken out i had to have lower premolars taken out and the teeth then retracted for bsso movement. It varies, you may not need this.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Wisdom teeth is usually a must as this is where the BSSO cut is . in my case i had to have lower premolars taken out and the teeth then retracted for bsso movement. It varies, you may not need this.

Ramieri told you to get premolars done?

 

[Gaia262]

Ramieri told you to get premolars done?

Yup my lower ones and my orthodontist confirmed.

 

[Slyfex8]

Ramieri told you to get premolars done?

Basically I guess the premolars were not removed for the BSSO cut. It was removed to retract the whole lower teeth arch so the surgeon can advance the lower jaw more from BSSO.

About the wisdom tooth, I guess they MUST be removed for every BSSO basically.

 

[Slyfex8]

there is no surgery for your race. you still look shit. just look shit AND like u have had surgery now.

Keep coping poor greycel

No matters his race he definitely increased his chances to get laid by a great amount

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Keep coping poor greycel

No matters his race he definitely increased his chances to get laid by a great amount

Based

 

[Lev Peshkov]

how u looking now bro out of curiousity

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The "swelling" (I'm not sure how much of it is swelling) looks the same in your 6 month update as your 4 month update.

 

[CristianT]

at 6 months mark your swelling is 90% gone btw

 

[Gaia262]

at 6 months mark your swelling is 90% gone btw

Hopefully the next stage of the wrap around jaw implant is the last piece of the puzzle.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Hopefully the next stage of the wrap around jaw implant is the last piece of the puzzle.

Looking forward to the results

 

[CristianT]

Hopefully the next stage of the wrap around jaw implant is the last piece of the puzzle.

Where you want to go with the wrap around?

 

[Gaia262]

Where you want to go with the wrap around?

Dr Ramieri does them as well.

 

[CristianT]

Dr Ramieri does them as well.

Does he have enough experience with implants though?

 

[Gaia262]

Does he have enough experience with implants though?

He's fairly new to them to be honest, but he did a great job with my infraorbital malar implants. Also a few members on here have shared their pics with me in PM of their results and it looks good


We are basically early adopters.

 

[CristianT]

He's fairly new to them to be honest, but he did a great job with my infraorbital malar implants. Also a few members on here have shared their pics with me in PM of their results and it looks good


We are basically early adopters.

Interesting.


"We are basically early adopters." - or in other words, Guinea pigs, lmao

 

[Gaia262]

Interesting.


"We are basically early adopters." - or in other words, Guinea pigs, lmao

Not necessarily, I mean in terms of being a hidden gem. We are basically at the front of the que. Unlike Eppley or Taban which are mainstream and their prices reflect that.

It's one of the reasons my videos are not publically available only you guys can access it by the link . I didn't want normies pilling in, you guys deserve this info.

 

[metagross]

Dr Ramieri does them as well.

Is Dr. Ramieri cheaper when doing custom Jaw implants than Eppley et al.?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Looking fwrd to your wrap around jaw implant results tbh.

 

[CristianT]

Is Dr. Ramieri cheaper when doing custom Jaw implants than Eppley et al.?

most probably

 

[Gaia262]

Is Dr. Ramieri cheaper when doing custom Jaw implants than Eppley et al.?

Jaw angle implants with Ramieri was 5k euros = $5.6k , i know Eppley is most likely double to triple that.

I paid 5k euros for my custom infraorbital malar implants but with the demand from my thread one person messaged me saying he was quoted 9k euros.

 

[metagross]

Jaw angle implants with Ramieri was 5k euros = $5.6k , i know Eppley is most likely double to triple that.

I paid 5k euros for my custom infraorbital malar implants but with the demand from my thread one person messaged me saying he was quoted 9k euros.

Alright cool. Lifefuel tbh. Didn't even know that Ramieri offered this aswell.

 

[Lihito]

I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery




I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible. ( link below to access the video)




9:37 for surgical video


Inter-op before and after


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Before



4 months (Still swollen)



6 months




Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

Dott. Valerio Ramieri, MD, PhD (@dr.maxilloroma) • Instagram photos and videos

23K Followers, 1,642 Following, 412 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Dott. Valerio Ramieri, MD, PhD (@dr.maxilloroma)

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Dr Marianetti's Instagram

Dott. Tito Marianetti (@titomarianetti) • Instagram photos and videos

51K Followers, 1,710 Following, 638 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Dott. Tito Marianetti (@titomarianetti)

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Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

Home in Rome · ★4.55 · 1 bedroom · 2 beds · 1 bathroom

Villa Massimo apartment. Enjoy Roma!

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

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@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan

You guys taught me everything, the least I can do is give back. Hope this helps you guys in some way.

From curry to curry

But mirin balls one of rare users who actually looksmaxes

 

[Mouthbreath]

Still a lot of bloat in the 6month video.
Please try to get a really lean face and inform yourself how to reduce swelling as much as possible. It would be amazing if you can get rid of the bloat completely.
Few thins to try:
- constant salt intake every day
- get leaner (post your physique to see where your bf is)
- experiment with carb intake
- maybe try cialis/tadalafil
- train your masseters, they give the jaws more structure from personal experience
- bodybuilders look usually very bloated, only when they loose the last percentages of bf, they get the so called deathface, maybe use tren if you are ok with the side effects
- maybe use some medicaments to reduce bloating
Imagine if you had hollow cheeks, you would easily gain another psl point.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Still a lot of bloat in the 6month video.
Please try to get a really lean face and inform yourself how to reduce swelling as much as possible. It would be amazing if you can get rid of the bloat completely.
Few thins to try:
- constant salt intake every day
- get leaner (post your physique to see where your bf is)
- experiment with carb intake
- maybe try cialis/tadalafil
- train your masseters, they give the jaws more structure from personal experience
- bodybuilders look usually very bloated, only when they loose the last percentages of bf, they get the so called deathface, maybe use tren if you are ok with the side effects
- maybe use some medicaments to reduce bloating
Imagine if you had hollow cheeks, you would easily gain another psl point.

Autism/10 . Taking tren and cilias to reduce bloat. Jfc

 

[Luke LLL]

When are you gonna get a revision

 

[Kynoxz]

€25,000 my broke ass could never, great results btw

 

[Cigarette]

could've just lost weight for 6 months but instead decided to drop 25k to remove double chin?

 

[coke]

could've just lost weight for 6 months but instead decided to drop 25k to remove double chin?

I can't tell if you're serious or not lmao

 

[WannaBeA6]

How good is their english? How did you communicate with them?

What was the payment method? Why didnt you go to Raffaini?

 

[Gaia262]

How good is their english? How did you communicate with them?

What was the payment method? Why didnt you go to Raffaini?

Yes their English is excellent , it best to start with an email, they can take you on as an E patient. What i like is Everything can be done remotely.

He replies quickly to emails but the best imo is to get his whatsapp when you are ready to commit, he replies in minutes and you get such a close relationship.

I paid by wise transfer, he accepts multiple ways to pay.

 

[WannaBeA6]

Yes their English is excellent , it best to start with an email, they can take you on as an E patient. What i like is Everything can be done remotely.

He replies quickly to emails but the best imo is to get his whatsapp when you are ready to commit, he replies in minutes and you get such a close relationship.

I paid by wise transfer, he accepts multiple ways to pay.

what about the Raffaini question

 

[Gaia262]

what about the Raffaini question

Design jaw wrap around and cheek

Hey guys, I’m gonna design cheek implants and jaw soon, my goals are to create a prominent ogee curve, look less bloated, fix under eye hollowness, fix midface. I like the current shape tho there’s things I’d Amend but looks like he’s changed the shape completely already, Can you help me with...

looksmax.org

 

[WannaBeA6]

Design jaw wrap around and cheek

Hey guys, I’m gonna design cheek implants and jaw soon, my goals are to create a prominent ogee curve, look less bloated, fix under eye hollowness, fix midface. I like the current shape tho there’s things I’d Amend but looks like he’s changed the shape completely already, Can you help me with...

looksmax.org

lmfao
well, I heard he's racist towards americans
He charged me 300 euro for a consultation (I think it's a fair price) and some exams, is that what you're talking about?

 

[Entschuldigung]

Rhino was totally unnecessary
Made your philtrum look bigger

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Rhino was totally unnecessary
Made your philtrum look bigger

Short philtrum is a ethnic trait

White falios > ethnic traits
For users trying to escape ethnic tax

Being a literal albino is better than being shitskinned for example

@ForeverRecession

 

[Deleted member 14160]

Short philtrum is a ethnic trait

White falios > ethnic traits
For users trying to escape ethnic tax

Being a literal albino is better than being shitskinned for example

@ForeverRecession

life fuel for my 16mm philtrum. I always thought a longer philtrum was somewhat the price to pay for a taller ramus, unless your chin is super tall.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

life fuel for my 16mm philtrum. I always thought a longer philtrum was somewhat the price to pay for a taller ramus, unless your chin is super tall.

Nah longer Philtrum is dimorphic.

Gives you a taller moustache height



Shorter moustache height is a giga ethnic falio and makes you look disgusting. One of the reasons I hate divaio and why he is so ethnic looking to me.

Automatic subhuman sleezy car salesman vibes

 

[Gaia262]

@alienmaxxer is very high standards. Anything non anglo is ethnic, and to an extent I agree tbh.

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Please stop derailing my thread, go to offtopic and do that.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

God I swear to god the use of the word ethnic on this forum makes me cage so much. Ive seen ppl calling ballou ethnic for having black eyes and in one thread I even saw some guy saying pitt's nw0 hairline was a failo cuz it makes him look more ethnic

Sub northWestern European is ethnic. No way around it
@ForeverRecession

 

[Lorsss]

Is Dr. Ramieri cheaper when doing custom Jaw implants than Eppley et al.?

in 2019 Eppley had a 12k fee for wrap around jaw implant
Now Eppley does not even perform a surgery for less than 20k

Eppley charged 35k to give user Lanklet an implant on browridge and orbital rim (it did not cover zygos)

 

[Morbidlife]

in 2019 Eppley had a 12k fee for wrap around jaw implant
Now Eppley does not even perform a surgery for less than 20k

Eppley charged 35k to give user Lanklet an implant on browridge and orbital rim (it did not cover zygos)

35k Jesus christ

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Yeah i hope to get before and afters when the swelling is gone and edit it into the video all with a higher resolution. But wanted to give you guys something now and not wait that long.

I had camouflage orthodontics before pre surgical orthodontics. So i guess i had a minor overbite before having braces at all.

Would you say Ramieri is good at fixing the damage done by (((camouflage orthodontics)))?

 

[Gaia262]

Would you say Ramieri is good at fixing the damage done by (((camouflage orthodontics)))?

Yeah he will move your teeth into it's correct position but it's a team effort with your orthodontist.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Yeah he will move your teeth into it's correct position but it's a team effort with your orthodontist.

Hi, i am italian. I know dottor Ramieri and i was interested to do with him chin wing a rhino, do you think that this could be a good solution for a slightly recessed jaw? He ask me 11500 for chin wing.