My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

[Gaia262]

Hi, i am italian. I know dottor Ramieri and i was interested to do with him chin wing a rhino, do you think that this could be a good solution for a slightly recessed jaw? He ask me 11500 for chin wing.

Sure, You can private message me pics and I can see how I can help.

Im not a fan of chin wings and it does seem quite costly.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Sure You can PM me pics and I can see how I can help.

Im not a fan of chin wings and it does seem quite costly.

ok, but first, how much for bimax, genio, jaw anche cheek implants with rhino and bichectomy?

 

[Gaia262]

ok, but first, how much for bimax, genio, jaw anche cheek implants with rhino and bichectomy?

I paid

15k euros for bimax and genio
Rhino 5k euros
Infraorbital malar implants 5k euros

Buccal fat shouldn't be much at all.
Jaw angles would have been 5k euros.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

I paid

15k euros for bimax and genio
Rhino 5k euros
Infraorbital malar implants 5k euros

Buccal fat shouldn't be much at all.
Jaw angles would have been 5k euros.

ok so with 30-35k i can get those surgery, however i send you mi pics.

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Yeah he will move your teeth into it's correct position but it's a team effort with your orthodontist.

Can I DM you my scans + my face?

 

[Gaia262]

Can I DM you my scans + my face?

Sure

 

[Kingkellz]

@Kingkellz thoughts on updated video?

Submental region improved
Pg is objectively in a better position in relation to other facial anatomical landmarks than it was before
From the front lower third looks better too

Nose looks more refined and less bulbous than before however the nasal base inclination is too high. The inclination in the before pic was pretty much ideal.
I've noticed whenever ppl get bimax with ccw rotation the nasal base inclination increases as a by product of the movement but yours was clockwise right.
I'm not an expert on rhinoplasty but the surgeons usually fuck up male noses whenever they try and fix droopy tips or dorsal humps (they end up with too much of an upturned tip or a concave dorsal profile respectively)
If you could get the nasal base to be more parallel to the floor I think it would be a great improvement, you have a bit too much external nare exposure now imho.

Overall you look like you improved as the swelling goes down too. You also seem happy with your results and that's what is most important. Worst scenario is getting surgery and getting botched or being unhappy with the results as you won't be able to live with yourself.

 

[AscendingHero]

Submental region improved
Pg is objectively in a better position in relation to other facial anatomical landmarks than it was before
From the front lower third looks better too

Nose looks more refined and less bulbous than before however the nasal base inclination is too high. The inclination in the before pic was pretty much ideal.
I've noticed whenever ppl get bimax with ccw rotation the nasal base inclination increases as a by product of the movement but yours was clockwise right.
I'm not an expert on rhinoplasty but the surgeons usually fuck up male noses whenever they try and fix droopy tips or dorsal humps (they end up with too much of an upturned tip or a concave dorsal profile respectively)
If you could get the nasal base to be more parallel to the floor I think it would be a great improvement, you have a bit too much external nare exposure now imho.

Overall you look like you improved as the swelling goes down too. You also seem happy with your results and that's what is most important. Worst scenario is getting surgery and getting botched or being unhappy with the results as you won't be able to live with yourself.

So basically you consider the ideal male noses to be straight, no upturn or downturn with a lowish nasolobial angle?

 

[Luke LLL]

This guy should pay me to plan his next osteotomies tbh.

 

[cardiologist]

respect for going through with surgery and committing to aesthetics

 

[Deleted member 13332]

how long did it take for you to get a consultation with ramieri?

 

[Gaia262]

how long did it take for you to get a consultation with ramieri?

He usually replies to his emails the same day, it should be the same week for you to get a consult. But there is alot of demand since this thread.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

He usually replies to his emails the same day, it should be the same week for you to get a consult. But there is alot of demand since this thread.

i heard stories how people wait months for their consultation at other surgeons

 

[Gaia262]

i heard stories how people wait months for their consultation at other surgeons

Yeah thats what i like with Dr Ramieri, also if you get his whatsapp he replies in minutes like anytime of the day. I was talking to him last night aswell.

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Yeah thats what i like with Dr Ramieri, also if you get his whatsapp he replies in minutes like anytime of the day. I was talking to him last night aswell.

lifefuel

 

[Deleted member 17244]

@Gaia262 bro how much he charges for custom wraparound jaw implant?

 

[Gaia262]

@Gaia262 bro how much he charges for custom wraparound jaw implant?

euro 10k.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

euro 10k.

wtf so pricy do u know any cheaper surgeon who would do it 5-7k at best?

 

[Gaia262]

wtf so pricy do u know any cheaper surgeon who would do it 5-7k at best?

Yeah in Brazil they do it around that price range.

I wouldn't go to the cheapest to be honest, I would find someone you trust and has a good track record. I am worried about this surgery as it can easily make you look uncanny or bloated. Or it can really ascend you,

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Yeah in Brazil they do it around that price range.

I wouldn't go to the cheapest to be honest, I would find someone you trust and has a good track record. I am worried about this surgery as it can easily make you look uncanny or bloated. Or it can really ascend you,

i'll get bimax (if it would be necessary) and genio in Poland, about 40k PLN for bimax + genio which is 8.2k EUR

 

[Deleted member 7098]

wtf so pricy do u know any cheaper surgeon who would do it 5-7k at best?

https://www.instagram.com/drjorgefernandes/ this one is around $5k ish

 

[ProjectAscension]

@Gaia262 Thanks for posting your experience, by far one of (if not the) best looksmaxxing threads out there.

I'm strongly considering the same surgery this year also with Ramieri. One thing that hasn't really been discussed yet is - how have the reactions been from the people you know? You mentioned family, but what about friends and co-workers? Did they notice any difference, and if so, what did you say?

 

[Gaia262]

@Gaia262 Thanks for posting your experience, by far one of (if not the) best looksmaxxing threads out there.

I'm strongly considering the same surgery this year also with Ramieri. One thing that hasn't really been discussed yet is - how have the reactions been from the people you know? You mentioned family, but what about friends and co-workers? Did they notice any difference, and if so, what did you say?

No worries bro , happy to help

It's an actual Blackpill, when I came back from surgery and was swollen and bruised and had severe weightloss I was treated with hostility by my family and in general from people I.e. cashiers avoiding eye contact. Shit was heart breaking. It was the hardest part of the whole thing.

As soon as the swelling came down and I got back in shape people were nice to me and my family were nicer to me

How I looked was directly correlated to how I was treated.

Now I feel I'm treated better overall. I need to test it in a bar or a club to get the real measure.

is real.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

No worries bro , happy to help

It's an actual Blackpill, when I came back from surgery and was swollen and bruised and had severe weightloss I was treated with hostility by my family and in general from people I.e. cashiers avoiding eye contact. Shit was heart breaking. It was the hardest part of the whole thing.

As soon as the swelling came down and I got back in shape people were nice to me and my family were nicer to me

How I looked was directly correlated to how I was treated.

Now I feel I'm treated better overall. I need to test it in a bar or a club to get the real measure.

is real.

You are gl and before surgery you was normie. Do you think that chin wing could fix a short face?

 

[Gaia262]

You are gl and before surgery you was normie. Do you think that chin wing could fix a short face?

Thanks bro.

For shortface you will needa bimax as its a combination of upper and lower jaw recession.

Also I have notoiced with a lot of shortfaced people that the infraorbital/malar areas will be recessed aswell.

if one area is recessed the chances are other areas of the face will be recessed aswell.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Thanks bro.

For shortface you will needa bimax as its a combination of upper and lower jaw recession.

Also I have notoiced with a lot of shortfaced people that the infraorbital/malar areas will be recessed aswell.

if one area is recessed the chances are other areas of the face will be recessed aswell.

I need to make an appointament with Ramieri to understand my situation because i am slightly recessed and asimmetric. I have not malar area recessed, i am a mistake lol

If i need bimax for short face i will not get malar implants because i do not like the idea of implants, probably fat grafting to infraorbital rim and cheekbones for more projection. I am scared of lefort1 for the impact on my mouth and lips but i will se what Ramieri say

 

[one job away]

Thanks bro.

For shortface you will needa bimax as its a combination of upper and lower jaw recession.

Also I have notoiced with a lot of shortfaced people that the infraorbital/malar areas will be recessed aswell.

if one area is recessed the chances are other areas of the face will be recessed aswell.

Update pls. Can you dm if you don’t want it public? Currently in need for some motivation.

 

[WenomWenom]

I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery




I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible. ( link below to access the video)




9:37 for surgical video


Inter-op before and after


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Before



4 months (Still swollen)



6 months




Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

Dott. Valerio Ramieri, MD, PhD (@dr.maxilloroma) • Instagram photos and videos

23K Followers, 1,642 Following, 412 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Dott. Valerio Ramieri, MD, PhD (@dr.maxilloroma)

www.instagram.com

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

Dott. Tito Marianetti (@titomarianetti) • Instagram photos and videos

51K Followers, 1,710 Following, 638 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Dott. Tito Marianetti (@titomarianetti)

www.instagram.com

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

Home in Rome · ★4.55 · 1 bedroom · 2 beds · 1 bathroom

Villa Massimo apartment. Enjoy Roma!

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

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@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan

You guys taught me everything, the least I can do is give back. Hope this helps you guys in some way.

AMAZING, great results!! just low your body fat % and you'll slay

 

[eyelidcel]

still invisible

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Obviously he ascended hard, he was ltn now is gl. There are a lot of jealous here, many of them would get his surgery but are too poor so they say that he is still ugly or invisible to girls. Real autism. An average guy can get a girl easily, you are all crazy and he is gl, he can easily slay in a club and also has a good body even if he is slightly short. 30k that change a life, you do not need more surgery. You are totally fine now and i am really happy for you.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

still invisible

Please kill your self ngl you are the shit of subhuman men

 

[livelaughlooksmax]

Short face makes you a good candidate so the pleasing result did not come as a surprise. For mine, and to pick a little, Ramieri went a little excess with linear advancement which is evident in your 3/4 shot. Nose widened quite a lot, prompting me to ask if an alar cinch performed? Result should improve with time as swelling slowly subsides through to 12-18 months post OP. FWIW my face at 18 months post OP looks far better compared to even 6 months ago, credit mostly to my bite settling (or relapsing, thank god - I was slightly botched). I recommend performing facial exercises to free up your stiff upper lip. It looks strained and contributes to the illusion of your philtrum lengthening.

 

[Gaia262]

Short face makes you a good candidate so the pleasing result did not come as a surprise. For mine, and to pick a little, Ramieri went a little excess with linear advancement which is evident in your 3/4 shot. Nose widened quite a lot, prompting me to ask if an alar cinch performed? Result should improve with time as swelling slowly subsides through to 12-18 months post OP. FWIW my face at 18 months post OP looks far better compared to even 6 months ago, credit mostly to my bite settling (or relapsing, thank god - I was slightly botched). I recommend performing facial exercises to free up your stiff upper lip. It looks strained and contributes to the illusion of your philtrum lengthening.

Thanks man,

I had a rhinoplasty with it but no alar clinch was done with it. Think there us quite a bit of swelling still to go, but it is quite upturned. Which I'm Ok with tbh.

You are correct and about the stiffness. Dr Ramieri did say for me to use my face and exercise it. Which I really need to do as it's very stiff in the upper lip and nose area still.

I'm going for a wrap around jaw implant in June so hope to make a video for you guys then .

 

[eyelidcel]

Please kill your self ngl you are the shit of subhuman men

C O P E. say it with me. don't project

 

[Deleted member 17501]

C O P E. say it with me. don't project

He is gl and you are a jealous troll

 

[CopeTilliRope]

Short face makes you a good candidate so the pleasing result did not come as a surprise. For mine, and to pick a little, Ramieri went a little excess with linear advancement which is evident in your 3/4 shot. Nose widened quite a lot, prompting me to ask if an alar cinch performed? Result should improve with time as swelling slowly subsides through to 12-18 months post OP. FWIW my face at 18 months post OP looks far better compared to even 6 months ago, credit mostly to my bite settling (or relapsing, thank god - I was slightly botched). I recommend performing facial exercises to free up your stiff upper lip. It looks strained and contributes to the illusion of your philtrum lengthening.

what type of exercise would you recommend for " philtrum shortenning " illuson? thanks

 

[eyelidcel]

He is gl and you are a jealous troll

you are coping so much it's insane he did all that and is still in the incel zone. barely made normie (5/10)

 

[needjawsurgery]

you are coping so much it's insane he did all that and is still in the incel zone. barely made normie (5/10)

subhuman to mtn face imo

 

[eyelidcel]

subhuman to mtn face imo

he only went up like one point tbh

 

[Deleted member 17501]

you are coping so much it's insane he did all that and is still in the incel zone. barely made normie (5/10)

Kill your self

 

[Deleted member 17501]

he only went up like one point tbh

Kill your self

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Kill your self

Incel=ugly man

He is at least in average or above now, so it's impossible what you say. Probably you are jealous, imagine to be a nice guy who shared to other peoples his surgery experience and someone call you "invisibile" with a laugh like a children. Really ridicolous.

 

[kota]

@kota I hope one day you see this thread bro, hope I did you proud

Looks great, very happy for you my man! And thanks for sharing, really takes me back.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

I seen the video he uploaded before surgery. I think that he was good looking also before surgery, even if he had short face. Now he is aroun 5PSL tbh

 

[eyelidcel]

Now he is aroun 5PSL tbh

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

@Gaia262 how did you convert to euros, did you just get whatever rate the bank you?

 

[Gaia262]

@Gaia262 how did you convert to euros, did you just get whatever rate the bank you?

Hi bro, I did an online transfer through

https://wise.com/

The rates are Amazing.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

to women average is ugly and invisible, no female is going to pay attention to this ugly cuck even now. you're defending so hard because you must want this surgery and you need to convince yourself it was life changing

I am not virgin, first of all, then i do not need this surgery because i do not have short face, i got girls in the past and probably guya same. You are here to offender a guy who spend a lot of money to be better with your ugly face and subhuman life. Commite suicide for you is the only way to give a sense at your delusional life.

 

[ProjectAscension]

@Gaia262 Did you post photos of your implant design anywhere? Had a scan through but couldn't find any photos

 

[Gaia262]

@Gaia262 Did you post photos of your implant design anywhere? Had a scan through but couldn't find any photos

Hi bro