Never use Minoxidil

[Wexilarious]

Did ur eyebrow hairs stay permanent after u stopped using it?

Yes, but I am healthmaxxed, I have no bad habits

 

[slaters]

Is there any permanent way to increase lash length and thickness? Biotin?

Whatever you take for lashes you have to use forever because they go through some cycle or some shit. So your lashes will go back to whatever they were before

 

[aestheticsrespecter]

Minox increases PGE2 its the exact same MOA as castor oil except more effective. (This is where the accelerated aging/skin degradation comes from)

 

[7arely.eroz]

Is topical min fine tho?

Talking as someone who had previously used Oral Minoxidil for ~2 years.

It is the biggest bloatmax you can do, and results are not permanent

You may not notice the bloat, but you look at your face every single day. I only realised how much of a brutal looksmin it is after looking at older photos of me where I was higher body fat, yet somehow facially leaner.

I was doing my utmost to debloat, and coping with “carbs cause bloating”, “it’s the sodium bro”

Trying 110% to debloat, and not being as facially lean when lower body fat than when higher body fat, and not giving a single fuck about what I ate is absolutely brutal.

I quit minoxidil 2 to 3 months ago now, the bloating did go away. Took around 2 weeks to a month, I forgot. Legit ate 10k calories of goyslop and there was literally no bloat.

No, none of the results on your eyelashes and eyebrows are gonna be permanent. Only beard. Reason for that is that since Minoxidil increases hair growth through increased blood flow, the hairs get an extra “boost” to grow. Beard hairs aren’t terminal hairs yet if you don’t have a beard, so minoxidil gives them that extra “boost” to become terminal hairs. Lashes and eyebrows are already terminal hair, so the increased blood flow is increasing the hair growth, but since the hair is already terminal, it can’t become terminal again, so once the Minoxidil usage is stopped, it will simply return to its pre minoxidil state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

And I also honestly don’t recommend topical minoxidil either. It still transatlantic to an extent.

TL;DR - Minoxidil causes bloating, through fucking up sodium and potassium channels. None of its hair growth is permanent, so I can’t see why anyone would use it.

 

[7arely.eroz]

So oral castor oil is the way to go?

Topical still goes systematic to an extent.

I would personally avoid, especially since results aren’t permanent.

 

[7arely.eroz]

in my opinion it’s the only side effect free method

Ok let's just say that I'm gonna shave my hair off in few weeks and rn I'm at Norwood 1 my hair has alr started thinning and falling due to my shitty lifestyle.What else should i start doing to grow luscious hair

 

[Deleted member 16288]

What about topical? Dut? What does a nigga even do to deal with hairloss?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

What about topical? Dut? What does a nigga even do to deal with hairloss?

I have no issue with Duta. To deal with hair loss you must prevent it IMO. Prevention with duta will always be best, it’s starts becoming ropey asf when you have lost ground that you need to gain back.

Depending on situation Duta for prevention, if you have lost some hair, Duta and wagesalve for hair transplant, if you have lost hella ground don’t bother doing minox and duta or any of that shit and get a hair system. In my option.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

@Mewton you have severe hair loss and recession?

 

[Deleted member 16288]

I have no issue with Duta. To deal with hair loss you must prevent it IMO. Prevention with duta will always be best, it’s starts becoming ropey asf when you have lost ground that you need to gain back.

Depending on situation Duta for prevention, if you have lost some hair, Duta and wagesalve for hair transplant, if you have lost hella ground don’t bother doing minox and duta or any of that shit and get a hair system. In my option.

You had issues even with topical minox?

 

[Deleted member 16288]

@Mewton you have severe hair loss and recession?

Not severe just started to notice some thinning

 

[7arely.eroz]

have a better lifestyle?

I mean obviously yea but other than that, you mentioned oral cast and what else should i use?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

You had issues even with topical minox?

Topical minoxidil goes systematic also to an extent. I didn’t try, but there are many anecdotes of the same issue happening with topical.

Not severe just started to notice some thinning

Duta alone can save it. The hair follicles are closing but one you start Duta they can start to reopen, and the hair will grow thicker. Use Duta not Fin it mogs in terms of regrowth and thickening hair.

I had to hair system max, tbh it was a great decision imo. undetectable, better than my original hair tbh and still do everything like normal.

 

[rory4579]

is also another option. I had also tried that, for a week only.

It works inane for growth of lashes, I saw very noticeable growth with in that week of using it.

I don’t know how much I believe the “latisse causes fat pa

Talking as someone who had previously used Oral Minoxidil for ~2 years.

It is the biggest bloatmax you can do, and results are not permanent

You may not notice the bloat, but you look at your face every single day. I only realised how much of a brutal looksmin it is after looking at older photos of me where I was higher body fat, yet somehow facially leaner.

I was doing my utmost to debloat, and coping with “carbs cause bloating”, “it’s the sodium bro”

Trying 110% to debloat, and not being as facially lean when lower body fat than when higher body fat, and not giving a single fuck about what I ate is absolutely brutal.

I quit minoxidil 2 to 3 months ago now, the bloating did go away. Took around 2 weeks to a month, I forgot. Legit ate 10k calories of goyslop and there was literally no bloat.

No, none of the results on your eyelashes and eyebrows are gonna be permanent. Only beard. Reason for that is that since Minoxidil increases hair growth through increased blood flow, the hairs get an extra “boost” to grow. Beard hairs aren’t terminal hairs yet if you don’t have a beard, so minoxidil gives them that extra “boost” to become terminal hairs. Lashes and eyebrows are already terminal hair, so the increased blood flow is increasing the hair growth, but since the hair is already terminal, it can’t become terminal again, so once the Minoxidil usage is stopped, it will simply return to its pre minoxidil state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

And I also honestly don’t recommend topical minoxidil either. It still transatlantic to an extent.

TL;DR - Minoxidil causes bloating, through fucking up sodium and potassium channels. None of its hair growth is permanent, so I can’t see why anyone would use it.

Woah

I'm starting litfulo and 1.25mg oral minox soon to save myself from being Judge holden alopeciacel

I don't care about slight bloating or whatever if it makes me look human

 

[busybythehour]

Yeah man you're right
I've been using minoxidil for a while and the bloat is crazy tbh...
I switched from topical to oral cause I was tired of the itchy scalp and the flakiness every single time.
Oral gives me crazy heart palpitations every dose I take. It feels like I'm having a mini heart attack.
The eyebrows are NOT permanent, you do have to keep using them. I looked in the mirror about two days ago and noticed some shed on my eyebrows, even though I switched to oral. Not sure about lashes though.

I also would not suggest topical finasteride. I used it for two months and then my dick died. Came back after two days, and fully after a week but it lowkey doesn't feel the same as before. I wonder if I should get my T levels checked? Anyway yeah, ORAL fin or nothing tbh...I fell for the cope. BOTH go systemic.

Have not used DUT...I want to keep my dick.

Honestly...these drugs can't do MUCH, at least for me IDK about others. This is why men can't definitively say they've found a situation for hairloss. The side affects are pretty odd tbh.
If you can, just get a hair system or a HT. HT is honestly, the best surgery you can get, and the best looksmax you can do. Even "turbo-doomers" like Rehab Room and "nature only" people like Goatis both promote HT's (despite them being diametrically opposed when it comes to the BP).

If you're white or asian get a hair system, they're pretty good tbh. If you're black...idk. I haven't found a black hair system so I have no idea what to do on that.

 

[busybythehour]

Also Under-eye area lowkey got raped on minoxidil. My bones shifted downward so I already don't have a lot of support there. Probably wasn't smart using minoxidil but I had to try.

Both Fin and Min have fucked me, over. The side affects on each are just too much to bear.
I do wonder about using oral fin sometimes, but that might just be me coping hard.
It might be worse than topical fin, but I'm not sure.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Very very based response.

Have you stopped the usage of minoxidil in general now?

Yeah my brows have returned to their pre minoxidil state, and eyelashes also I think, though I feel they are still slightly longer, but I could be delusional since it was over 2 years ago I started so no way of really knowing. I have been off ~3 months now.

100% agree on the oral Fin. I suggested to a user in this thread to just go straight for oral instead of topical. I’m not sure where it came from where if you apply topical it’s not gonna go systematic.

However if you suffer from hair loss, duta may be in the cards down the line. I’ve heard many anecdotes where people start losing ground again after like 10 years in Finasteride, and then have to go on Duta if they want to maintain that.

IMO the best method is Hair System. It gives you your hair and you never have to worry about taking drugs or potential side effects.

Especially as a white who, 99% of the time, already have noticeable regression by 20 years old.

 

[busybythehour]

Very very based response.

Have you stopped the usage of minoxidil in general now?

Yeah my brows have returned to their pre minoxidil state, and eyelashes also I think, though I feel they are still slightly longer, but I could be delusional since it was over 2 years ago I started so no way of really knowing. I have been off ~3 months now.

100% agree on the oral Fin. I suggested to a user in this thread to just go straight for oral instead of topical. I’m not sure where it came from where if you apply topical it’s not gonna go systematic.

However if you suffer from hair loss, duta may be in the cards down the line. I’ve heard many anecdotes where people start losing ground again after like 10 years in Finasteride, and then have to go on Duta if they want to maintain that.

IMO the best method is Hair System. It gives you your hair and you never have to worry about taking drugs or potential side effects.

I plan to stop using Minoxidl starting today tbh...these side affects are just not worth it. A heart attack and itchy scalp w/ dandruff every time...JFL
I didn't experience any cardiovascular issues though, but I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle anyways so I can't gauge with complete accuracy.

My brows have return to pre-min state, but not lashes. Lashes may have gone down slightly, but not like the brows. I guess it makes sense, because when I first started min, my lashes responded faster than my brows.

Also I noticed on oral minox my mouth would go dry, and I would always need to constantly "taste" something to feel normal. I'm already pretty out of shape, so this need does not help. Probably something to do with the blood flow.

If I were to try any of the drugs again, it would most likely be straight to Duta, since I experienced the sides from topical fin, I would most likely experience sides from Oral as well. Might as well, since it's stronger and would improve my skin (and if I would experience sides anyway...might as well go right to the most effective).

I'm not sure about a hairsystem, because I don't know any hair system for people with afro-hair textures. But If I can find a good one, I'll probably get that and leave it at that for the time being, until I decide if I want to use DUT or not.

Also, I've heard of some people using FIN, experiencing sides, then the sides go away. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but I'm also not sure if I want to risk that. Have you heard of that?

 

[busybythehour]

What do you mean your bones shifted downward?

I highly, highly doubt your bones moved, what’s likely happened is under eye fat pad has slid down due to gravity. Possibly causing you nasolabial fold?

Maybe minoxidil does effect collagen and maybe thinned your under eye skin slightly, though there nothing really confirming aging from minox apart from anecdotes

No I mean my under-eye area was already bad, that's what I meant. So the minox could make it worse, or I could be coping IDK for sure.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

No I mean my under-eye area was already bad, that's what I meant. So the minox could make it worse, or I could be coping IDK for sure.

It is known anecdotally to cause aging and worsen collagen.

I plan to stop using Minoxidl starting today tbh...these side affects are just not worth it. A heart attack and itchy scalp w/ dandruff every time...JFL
I didn't experience any cardiovascular issues though, but I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle anyways so I can't gauge with complete accuracy.

My brows have return to pre-min state, but not lashes. Lashes may have gone down slightly, but not like the brows. I guess it makes sense, because when I first started min, my lashes responded faster than my brows.

Also I noticed on oral minox my mouth would go dry, and I would always need to constantly "taste" something to feel normal. I'm already pretty out of shape, so this need does not help. Probably something to do with the blood flow.

If I were to try any of the drugs again, it would most likely be straight to Duta, since I experienced the sides from topical fin, I would most likely experience sides from Oral as well. Might as well, since it's stronger and would improve my skin (and if I would experience sides anyway...might as well go right to the most effective).

I'm not sure about a hairsystem, because I don't know any hair system for people with afro-hair textures. But If I can find a good one, I'll probably get that and leave it at that for the time being, until I decide if I want to use DUT or not.

Also, I've heard of some people using FIN, experiencing sides, then the sides go away. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but I'm also not sure if I want to risk that. Have you heard of that?

Some people experience sides with Fin and don’t with Duta, or the other way around, from what I have heard.

Your right about afro styles, it’s usually ideal for white who have straight or slightly wavy hair.

Maybe look into SMP. Are you black? It’s basically like a permanent buzz but. You just shave your head. You could realistically have both a hair system and SMP if you wanted, like try SMP and if you don’t like it maybe try find a hair system. I honestly prefer both these routes compared to drugs. It’s a better long term solution IMO and there’s no worry.

 

[busybythehour]

Maybe look into SMP. Are you black? It’s basically like a permanent buzz but. You just shave your head. You could realistically have both a hair system and SMP if you wanted, like try SMP and if you don’t like it maybe try find a hair system. I honestly prefer both these routes compared to drugs. It’s a better long term solution IMO and there’s no worry.

Yeah I'm black, never heard of SMP I'll look into it. For now I've just been buzzing my hair. It's not THAT bad I guess, since black guys can get away with a buzzed head.

Some people experience sides with Fin and don’t with Duta, or the other way around, from what I have heard.

Maybe I'll look into Duta more then.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Yeah I'm black, never heard of SMP I'll look into it. For now I've just been buzzing my hair. It's not THAT bad I guess, since black guys can get away with a buzzed head.

Maybe I'll look into Duta more then.

If you rock buzz, SMP may be the way bro. IDK if i’d use duta maintaing a buzz when SMP exists

 

[repszon]

Jus do topical

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Talking as someone who had previously used Oral Minoxidil for ~2 years.

It is the biggest bloatmax you can do, and results are not permanent

You may not notice the bloat, but you look at your face every single day. I only realised how much of a brutal looksmin it is after looking at older photos of me where I was higher body fat, yet somehow facially leaner.

I was doing my utmost to debloat, and coping with “carbs cause bloating”, “it’s the sodium bro”

Trying 110% to debloat, and not being as facially lean when lower body fat than when higher body fat, and not giving a single fuck about what I ate is absolutely brutal.

I quit minoxidil 2 to 3 months ago now, the bloating did go away. Took around 2 weeks to a month, I forgot. Legit ate 10k calories of goyslop and there was literally no bloat.

No, none of the results on your eyelashes and eyebrows are gonna be permanent. Only beard. Reason for that is that since Minoxidil increases hair growth through increased blood flow, the hairs get an extra “boost” to grow. Beard hairs aren’t terminal hairs yet if you don’t have a beard, so minoxidil gives them that extra “boost” to become terminal hairs. Lashes and eyebrows are already terminal hair, so the increased blood flow is increasing the hair growth, but since the hair is already terminal, it can’t become terminal again, so once the Minoxidil usage is stopped, it will simply return to its pre minoxidil state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

And I also honestly don’t recommend topical minoxidil either. It still transatlantic to an extent.

TL;DR - Minoxidil causes bloating, through fucking up sodium and potassium channels. None of its hair growth is permanent, so I can’t see why anyone would use it.

just use lattise boyos

 

[averagenormie]

Collagenmax guide

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Collagenmax guide

Collagen max guide - don’t use minoxidil

 

[averagenormie]

Collagen max guide - don’t use minoxidil

I've noticed I lost collagen but its worth it imo to have hair and do Tretinoin at night combined with low dose accutane

 

[averagenormie]

collagen loss reversed for me anyway.

What did you do for it? Also did you recover the under eye area?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

What did you do for it? Also did you recover the under eye area?

i used oral minox. it resolved after i stoped

 

[averagenormie]

i used oral minox. it resolved after i stoped

Oral minox as tablet or as 0.1ml topical mixed with water?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Oral minox as tablet or as 0.1ml topical mixed with water?

topical

 

[averagenormie]

topical

I'm doing the same and I've noticed the sides but coping with lasix 20mg to debloat and tret with low dose accutane for the collagen, under eye area I have no solution still, eyelashes grow longer but not denser or thicker, the eyebrows got little bit denser as well as hair grow super fast

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I'm doing the same and I've noticed the sides but coping with lasix 20mg to debloat and tret with low dose accutane for the collagen, under eye area I have no solution still, eyelashes grow longer but not denser or thicker, the eyebrows got little bit denser as well as hair grow super fast

yeah i just cba too many sides so i stopped. bloat and collagen is not worth it for me

 

[Deleted member 81875]

Talking as someone who had previously used Oral Minoxidil for ~2 years.

It is the biggest bloatmax you can do, and results are not permanent

You may not notice the bloat, but you look at your face every single day. I only realised how much of a brutal looksmin it is after looking at older photos of me where I was higher body fat, yet somehow facially leaner.

I was doing my utmost to debloat, and coping with “carbs cause bloating”, “it’s the sodium bro”

Trying 110% to debloat, and not being as facially lean when lower body fat than when higher body fat, and not giving a single fuck about what I ate is absolutely brutal.

I quit minoxidil 2 to 3 months ago now, the bloating did go away. Took around 2 weeks to a month, I forgot. Legit ate 10k calories of goyslop and there was literally no bloat.

No, none of the results on your eyelashes and eyebrows are gonna be permanent. Only beard. Reason for that is that since Minoxidil increases hair growth through increased blood flow, the hairs get an extra “boost” to grow. Beard hairs aren’t terminal hairs yet if you don’t have a beard, so minoxidil gives them that extra “boost” to become terminal hairs. Lashes and eyebrows are already terminal hair, so the increased blood flow is increasing the hair growth, but since the hair is already terminal, it can’t become terminal again, so once the Minoxidil usage is stopped, it will simply return to its pre minoxidil state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

And I also honestly don’t recommend topical minoxidil either. It still transatlantic to an extent.

TL;DR - Minoxidil causes bloating, through fucking up sodium and potassium channels. None of its hair growth is permanent, so I can’t see why anyone would use it.

@JOJOcelReturns

 

[Deleted member 81875]

RU58841 mogs

 

[ih8myself]

It will increase hair growth yes, which includes eye lashes. Drink 5-10mL a day. Maybe work up to that dosage since it is used as a laxative. I just full sent it straight to 5-10mL and was fine, no issue.

sorry for the late reply, do you remember or know the exact oral castor oil you used?

 

[VolcelFTW]

yeah ngl I would've called you retarded a year ago but yeah I stopped and I have less brain fog

 

[VolcelFTW]

I’m the same, I didn’t think i had adverse sides till i stopped.
Oral or topical?
Did you bloat?

Oral lmao 7.5 for a couple months. And yeah I bloated.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Oral lmao 7.5 for a couple months. And yeah I bloated.

Pretty high dose as well. Maybe you could try low dose and titrate up based on sides but idk if it’s worth it. I wouldn’t try tbh.

Did your bloating resolve after you stopped?

 

[VolcelFTW]

Pretty high dose as well. Maybe you could try low dose and titrate up based on sides but idk if it’s worth it. I wouldn’t try tbh.

Did your bloating resolve after you stopped?

yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but its really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogs

 

[chadisbeingmade]

yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but it’s really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogs

Yeah I don’t think it’s worth it either. The bloat I got from it just wasn’t worth it, I had to cope with 0 carbs where as before i could eat what I want and not bloat. Shit is legit poison.

 

[Deleted member 81875]

I just saw this. Makes no sense, they do 2 completely different things JFL.

RU regrows but ok dude

 

[Deleted member 81875]

Not because it has a mechanism to grow hair JFL, only because it blocks dht and test from binding to the receptors.. Half the people that use it use it for brows, want them to apply RU to their eyebrow JFL? tf

Ok

 

[ih8myself]

yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but its really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogs

Have you noticed any fat loss under the eyes with latisse? Also what is scm?

 

[ih8myself]

Oral Castor oil is the best best option. Very effective. 5-10mL not bs 1mL a day. No bloat.

Bro what castor oil did you use? Does any work or a one specifically for oral(I obviously know it should be 100% organic chemical free and coldpressed) but is there anything else I need to know

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Bro what castor oil did you use? Does any work or a one specifically for oral(I obviously know it should be 100% organic chemical free and coldpressed) but is there anything else I need to know

I just pulled up to the pharmacy and got pharma grade castor oil

 

[Tyler1]

Im not bloated at 3 months 1 Week

 

[Tyler1]

stop it for 2 weeks and see the difference. I thought the same as you until I actually stopped.

Will I lose the gains after 2 weeks?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Will I lose the gains after 2 weeks?

minox gains are never permanent. if you start you are on for life if you want to keep your gains.

 

[Tyler1]

minox gains are never permanent. if you start you are on for life if you want to keep your gains.

But it mogs thicker darker hair suits me