RATE ME- BEFORE/AFTER: Tan, Chin Filler, Neck Training, Hairstyle, Clean Shaven, Lower BF%

wtf
i mogged you to death when we were both 17
how did you get such a different lower third just genetic luck?
its probably just a bad picture. it was taken on a literal flip phone

here's me, also 17 years old, taken with a professional camera. I think my lower third is about the same

1616111969302flip
 
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its probably just a bad picture. it was taken on a literal flip phone

here's me, also 17 years old, taken with a professional camera. I think my lower third is about the same

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yeah true lense distortion indeed. you look like a mogger there. very harmonious
 
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do u regret surgery maxxing?
i regret not choosing a better surgeon for the nose job and not going to a specialist for my eyelid retraction. I regret not getting more surgeries. I think I should have gotten a canthoplasty as well.

Also probably hairline lowering surgery. But I might get both of those surgeries anyway next year
 
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A tinder date I went on this last week when I met the girl she just stood there while I was walking around my apartment. I asked what was wrong and said "nothing I am just looking at you, you look like a real life ken doll"

Another date I went on the girl got dropped off and while walking towards me started giggling and said "wow you ARE real" she then called the frined that dropper her off and said "come back you gotta see this guy" and her friend pulls up and said "wow u look like a model, are you?"
brutal:feelswhy:
just kill me in my sleep
 
i regret not choosing a better surgeon for the nose job and not going to a specialist for my eyelid retraction. I regret not getting more surgeries. I think I should have gotten a canthoplasty as well.

Also probably hairline lowering surgery. But I might get both of those surgeries anyway next year
how do you find a good surgeon?
 
how do you find a good surgeon?
good fucking question. I guess nowadays by reputation, reviews, photo results, consultation, gut instinct, if he can articulate and understand your goals, etc

for me when I was young I just google searched plastic surgeon in my area and went to the first guy and that was it
 
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its probably just a bad picture. it was taken on a literal flip phone

here's me, also 17 years old, taken with a professional camera. I think my lower third is about the same

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Can u describe what a normal saturday looks like to you?

Do u only play video games, browse looksmax and fuck girls from tinder or do you meet friends, go to bars, have any hobbies?
 
Can u describe what a normal saturday looks like to you?

Do u only play video games, browse looksmax and fuck girls from tinder or do you meet friends, go to bars, have any hobbies?
wake up, 3 hours of drinking black coffee and playing warcraft 3 frozen throne video game while listening to podcasts (usually political or conspiracy oriented) then play a few hours of online poker, then hit the gym, eat dinner. At that point I either go back to video games the rest of the night or will hang out with a FWB by inviting her over
 
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wake up, 3 hours of drinking black coffee and playing warcraft 3 frozen throne video game while listening to podcasts (usually political or conspiracy oriented) then play a few hours of online poker, then hit the gym, eat dinner. At that point I either go back to video games the rest of the night or will hang out with a FWB by inviting her over
I also like wc3, especially arthas storyline. I still remember a lot of the quotes. I played tbc last year (Rogue) but I quit because it took too much time and was too addicting

Jfl you are such a nerd at heart, but you got lucky by ascending with surgeries
 
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I also like wc3, especially arthas storyline. I still remember a lot of the quotes. I played tbc last year (Rogue) but I quit because it took too much time and was too addicting

Jfl you are such a nerd at heart, but you got lucky by ascending with surgeries
i was playing wc3 since middle school, which was a great time in my life so it bring nostalgia too. And yeah I am a total nerd. I rotted all thru my 20's playing SC2 when it came out.

I openly tell girls I am a nerd and they laugh thinking I am being sarcastic cause I "don't look like a nerd" but little do they know
 
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wake up, 3 hours of drinking black coffee and playing warcraft 3 frozen throne video game while listening to podcasts (usually political or conspiracy oriented) then play a few hours of online poker, then hit the gym, eat dinner. At that point I either go back to video games the rest of the night or will hang out with a FWB by inviting her over
So what do you do in a normal day now being high psl

edit: wait thats what you do now ? arent you retired from poker yet?
 
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I am going back to the pale skin color I had in the before. I actually think I might look better, I am so sick of people who keep asking if I am Italian cause of my tan
 
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how do you tan so well? also arent you worried about skin aging
 
how do you tan so well? also arent you worried about skin aging
tanning doesnt age the skin, burning does. Been using tanning beds for 13 years so my skin is used to it

its funny I met a girl literally from Italy here in the USA for school and she laughed when I say ppl ask if I am Italian cause she said I look like a typical american white guy

she said what she hates the most about Italian guys is they are short
 
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I am going back to the pale skin color I had in the before. I actually think I might look better, I am so sick of people who keep asking if I am Italian cause of my tan
got a nose job cause people said ur jewish now youre going to be a vampire bc people called you italian whats next son
 
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got a nose job cause people said ur jewish now youre going to be a vampire bc people called you italian whats next son
the only consistent identity I have is an autistic psl sperg
 
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Chads gonna Chad:chad:
 
wake up, 3 hours of drinking black coffee and playing warcraft 3 frozen throne video game while listening to podcasts (usually political or conspiracy oriented) then play a few hours of online poker, then hit the gym, eat dinner. At that point I either go back to video games the rest of the night or will hang out with a FWB by inviting her over
what do you do for a living
 
I am 33 on the left pic I am 30 on the right pic

Tan for color vs my natural pale white color
Chin filler for chin width
Hairstyle to hide my naturally high forehead
Clean shaven to show off hollow cheeks
Dedicated isolation neck training 3-4 times a week
Leaner by 10 pounds between the two pictures



In before my nose is botched. I might try to do some filler or something towards the tip or something

Also I am wearing different vampire type contacts on the right thats why my eyes look clear. They were weird and never wear them


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Interesting. Shows the importance of neck training.

One question. How often do you do chin fillers?
 
From chad to chad
 
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bumpin mirin post bhai
 
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I think the whole tanning is bad is a fraud, the sun brings life to everything on this world, slapping on a bunch of artificial chemicals onto your skin in the form of sunscreen is horrible. In fact I use nothing to wash my face at all, just water, have been for years
skincare addicts on suiwatch

sun is needed for healthy life,but too much sun is also bad for skin,there have been articles in medical journals published about this - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmicm1104059

You don't have a night routine as well ? no tret,peptides or serums ?

Also,do you moisturise ?
 
skincare addicts on suiwatch

sun is needed for healthy life,but too much sun is also bad for skin,there have been articles in medical journals published about this - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmicm1104059

You don't have a night routine as well ? no tret,peptides or serums ?

Also,do you moisturise ?

topical skin care is cope

ur skin is an organ like any other part of ur body and thus requires nutrients to maintain and keep its health. Plus diet can effect it. I do skincare, I just approach it thru diet and supplementation. Gluten gave me shit skin, so I went gluten free. There's a lot of advantages to gluten free. You will absorb nutrient much better since gluten damages ur GI tract.

I also got rid of inflammatory and foods that cause accelerated aging. These foods are high in carcinogens and cause free radical damage:

fried foods, well done red meats, oil in a bottle (olive, canola, etc) burn skins of potatoes

after that I supplement with 90 different nutrients, 16 vitamins, 60 minerals, 2 fatty acids. I also get plenty of antioxidant rich foods and supplements

I take skin and healthcare seriously. I do that shit for anti aging purposes. I am autistic about my health and diet. I almost never ever drink alcohol either

it's true that some people have flawless great skin and eat like shit so genetics are playing a huge role. I also sleep a ton and do a lot of intermittent fasting and even multi day water fasting to give my gut a chance to heal
 
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this chap is 34 yo and still posting here

let that sink in
 
High gonial angle cel
 
I am 33 on the left pic I am 30 on the right pic

Tan for color vs my natural pale white color
Chin filler for chin width
Hairstyle to hide my naturally high forehead
Clean shaven to show off hollow cheeks
Dedicated isolation neck training 3-4 times a week
Leaner by 10 pounds between the two pictures



In before my nose is botched. I might try to do some filler or something towards the tip or something

Also I am wearing different vampire type contacts on the right thats why my eyes look clear. They were weird and never wear them


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Nose looks fake nigha
 
topical skin care is cope

ur skin is an organ like any other part of ur body and thus requires nutrients to maintain and keep its health. Plus diet can effect it. I do skincare, I just approach it thru diet and supplementation. Gluten gave me shit skin, so I went gluten free. There's a lot of advantages to gluten free. You will absorb nutrient much better since gluten damages ur GI tract.

I also got rid of inflammatory and foods that cause accelerated aging. These foods are high in carcinogens and cause free radical damage:

fried foods, well done red meats, oil in a bottle (olive, canola, etc) burn skins of potatoes

after that I supplement with 90 different nutrients, 16 vitamins, 60 minerals, 2 fatty acids. I also get plenty of antioxidant rich foods and supplements

I take skin and healthcare seriously. I do that shit for anti aging purposes. I am autistic about my health and diet. I almost never ever drink alcohol either

it's true that some people have flawless great skin and eat like shit so genetics are playing a huge role. I also sleep a ton and do a lot of intermittent fasting and even multi day water fasting to give my gut a chance to heal
infinity lifefuel

I was also a non believer of topical skincare and used to laugh at guys who took part in it and thought they were gays , until I came here and saw the stack some of these guys were running

I don't like using moisturiser or sunscreen since my skin is extremely oily to begin with,and putting more products on top of that just makes me feel more uncomfortable

I recently asked in a post whether tret was hype and the same results could be achieved by diet,exercise and sleep but @Wallenberg said no
 
topical skin care is cope

ur skin is an organ like any other part of ur body and thus requires nutrients to maintain and keep its health. Plus diet can effect it. I do skincare, I just approach it thru diet and supplementation. Gluten gave me shit skin, so I went gluten free. There's a lot of advantages to gluten free. You will absorb nutrient much better since gluten damages ur GI tract.

I also got rid of inflammatory and foods that cause accelerated aging. These foods are high in carcinogens and cause free radical damage:

fried foods, well done red meats, oil in a bottle (olive, canola, etc) burn skins of potatoes

after that I supplement with 90 different nutrients, 16 vitamins, 60 minerals, 2 fatty acids. I also get plenty of antioxidant rich foods and supplements

I take skin and healthcare seriously. I do that shit for anti aging purposes. I am autistic about my health and diet. I almost never ever drink alcohol either

it's true that some people have flawless great skin and eat like shit so genetics are playing a huge role. I also sleep a ton and do a lot of intermittent fasting and even multi day water fasting to give my gut a chance to heal
put your list of supplements
 
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That is indeed strange, maybe she was intimidated by your looks
THAT is not fucking good sign. It means they seem him as those plastic surgery freak that are obsessed with plastic surgery.

hE IS GONNa look like this at some point.

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KEN DOLL means uncanny look. Which is bad think.
 
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I think you're as good as you will get without more hardmaxxing, which is risky anyways. You are almost maxxed out pheno-wise.

The only best bet you can do is get maybe LL or something ... Or try more jawline/eye area fixes. I doubt you'd ever get even 1 PSL without tons of risk/surgeries/roids maybe/etc. You are basically at your peak without serious hardmaxxing/risky roidmaxxing maybe/etc.
 
Hey @Amnesia, could you recommend anything to get me started on neck training? I feel like it's a very overlooked part of Looksmaxxing and I believe I should work on it along with other things.
 
What’s your neck workout routine?
 
Do you use MT2 and tanning beds?
Also what do you do for anti aging?
 
Make an update. It’s been almost 2 years
 
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@Amnesia Arent you afraid of permanently damaging and aging your skin if you tan that much? Or am I missing something and you have a special method?
 
@Amnesia thanks for the skincare redpills

How do you maintain a good tan in winter? Do you use tanning beds or sun only?
 
Its MULTIPLE situations like this where a girl tells me I am so GL etc yet they never meetup with me or block me on snap or something which makes me laugh at looks theory as being all u need

Looks are not the end all be all theres other shit at play
bro. wtf is that
 
Its MULTIPLE situations like this where a girl tells me I am so GL etc yet they never meetup with me or block me on snap or something which makes me laugh at looks theory as being all u need

Looks are not the end all be all theres other shit at play
Sorry to bump this 2 yo thread but im so intrigued by you having this experience, because it's exactly what happens to me.

Of course, I'm not even close to Chad, I'm just a normie but I had plenty of instances where girls seemed really appreciative of my looks to the point of making ridiculous statements as the one you mentioned and still not following through, ghosting etc.

I understand this a certain degree of entitlement where women, in ther hypergamous cycle will be rejecting any guy regardless for any possible excuse she can give herself at a given time. Such was told to me, and such was my experience with my interactions so far.

However I thought this was somehow related, at least to an extant, to my looks, obviously. I'm sure I'm not making the cut for female standards these days by any chance, but it really surprises me that you, with your current looks and also frauding height, have this experience.
 
bro. wtf is that
Sorry to bump this 2 yo thread but im so intrigued by you having this experience, because it's exactly what happens to me.

Of course, I'm not even close to Chad, I'm just a normie but I had plenty of instances where girls seemed really appreciative of my looks to the point of making ridiculous statements as the one you mentioned and still not following through, ghosting etc.

I understand this a certain degree of entitlement where women, in ther hypergamous cycle will be rejecting any guy regardless for any possible excuse she can give herself at a given time. Such was told to me, and such was my experience with my interactions so far.

However I thought this was somehow related, at least to an extant, to my looks, obviously. I'm sure I'm not making the cut for female standards these days by any chance, but it really surprises me that you, with your current looks and also frauding height, have this experience.

there have been times where after a girl gave huge initial interest and even like made out with me and was the one who approached me one night and ended up ghosting me and it bothered me so much i sent a cringe text like "yo just give me a reason why u ghosted please" and two times so far the girl gave some response like "well u just seemed like all u wanted was a hookup and I want more"

its like bitch u were the one who approached and kinda threw urself at me that night

but thats women for u
 
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there have been times where after a girl gave huge initial interest and even like made out with me and was the one who approached me one night and ended up ghosting me and it bothered me so much i sent a cringe text like "yo just give me a reason why u ghosted please" and two times so far the girl gave some response like "well u just seemed like all u wanted was a hookup and I want more"

its like bitch u were the one who approached and kinda threw urself at me that night

but thats women for u
fate of manlets, BRUTAL
 
there have been times where after a girl gave huge initial interest and even like made out with me and was the one who approached me one night and ended up ghosting me and it bothered me so much i sent a cringe text like "yo just give me a reason why u ghosted please" and two times so far the girl gave some response like "well u just seemed like all u wanted was a hookup and I want more"

its like bitch u were the one who approached and kinda threw urself at me that night

but thats women for u
Sounds very entitled. It's like how does she knows you only want a hookup? Women be really making up reasons to reject guys.

Like, ''gigachad is not enough, it has to be gigachad + beta + treats me like a queen + won't sleep with me on first date cuz he's a gentlemen. This or I'll rather be alone.''
 
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