Reasons why ISLAM is NOT BASED and goes AGAINST Looksmaxxing and Healthmaxxing

[Deleted member 15260]

He said I don't know who the fuck you are and labeled me as a scam artist or some bullshit like that. Screw him

What was your final psychological analysis of him?

 

[Sexually Disabled]

OP is coping hard.

 

[Deleted member 17311]

Fucking shitskit faggot what are you talking about

ok birdshitskin

 

[Gestapo]

Typical cuck mindset. „Please take me foid, I‘m the prettiest peacock of them all“. You claim that this is natural, but it’s the exact opposite of that.

Little question for you, what would you do if Francis Ngannou just decides to take your foid from you? You wouldn‘t do shit and submit. That is nature, not this dumb shit that modern cucks believe in.

@PrinterAndFaxMachin

I can just feel the incel rage from your reply lmfao.
I get pussy without rape or murder meanwhile your only hope is to rape. The best part about that is that rape is now illegal so there is nothing you can do but seethe.

 

[Gestapo]

What was your final psychological analysis of him?

Power tripping schizo

 

[Deleted member 15260]

Power tripping schizo

Why did he shut it down? Will it ever be back?

 

[Gestapo]

OP is coping hard.

Seems like I've struck a nerve with all you goatfucking retards lmao

 

[whiteissuperior]

Questions for you Allahcels
when you guys fuck your goat do you make it cum? If so, how many times in a session?

Yes I make my goat cum at least 7 times in one session and go many rounds

 

[Sexually Disabled]

Seems like I've struck a nerve with all you goatfucking retards lmao

You made an entire thread bashing Islam because you Muslims get to marry virgins but you can't.

 

[Gestapo]

You made an entire thread bashing Islam because you Muslims get to marry virgins but you can't.

Most muslim women aren't even virgins lmao they secretly have sex and get surgery to cover it up

 

[chigoha]

triggered goatfucker spotted
swallow the truth incel you do something unhealthy and you will pay with your health and longevity

dude do you realize how dumb you are ?

 

[Deleted member 16039]

2) Encourages Pedophilia. Their prophet Muhammad (53yr old) raped a young girl (9yr old).

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This is what a Christian teacher has to say about Muhammad marrying a young girl, and what the real time a girl is ready for marriage should be.

 

[Deleted member 17736]

not even a word.

 

[Gestapo]

dude do you realize how dumb you are ?

If you were in a science environment you would have lost your job if you responded like this. You haven't provided a single peer reviewed publication or any evidence whatsoever. Pretty impressive honestly.

 

[chigoha]

If you were in a science environment you would have lost your job if you responded like this. You haven't provided a single peer reviewed publication or any evidence whatsoever. Pretty impressive honestly.

i don't care tbh if some muslims fuck goats does that mean all muslims do ?

you're just the typical victim of the western anti-islam propaganda

 

[Gestapo]

This is what a Christian teacher has to say about Muhammad marrying a young girl, and what the real time a girl is ready for marriage should be.

@john2 I'm mirin this Christian teacher standing up against these twisted extremist Muslims

i don't care tbh if some muslims fuck goats does that mean all muslims do ?

My post is directed to those who
- advocate for the mindless killing of people who don't accept Islam
- follow and support pedo prophets
- promote laws that cause muslim women to have a severe vitamin d deficiency

Chruchill said it best

 

[chaddyboi66]

Questions for you Allahcels
when you guys fuck your goat do you make it cum? If so, how many times in a session?

I'm not Muslim, do you know even what Holy Week is?



[ISPOILER] [/ISPOILER]

 

[Atem Rah]

1) The practices in Islam inflict SEVERE Vit D deficiency on their women and children despite living in a sun rich location.



2) Encourages Pedophilia. Their prophet Muhammad (53yr old) raped a young girl (9yr old).





3) Encourages violence and meaningless war against people that don't accept their ridiculous beliefs that contradict science and basic human biology.



Bonus: They are not allowed to eat bacon but they can fuck goats and chickens? lmao



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1)If they wanna cover up then it's their choice.
b-but vitamin d ?
They can just take a supplement instead of aging like shit lmao.
2) inb4 people from 1400 years in the future call us pedophiles for marrying a 25 year old.
3) I am embarrassed for you because you have seperated the verses which should be read together and quoted them out of context completely ignoring the situation which existed at that time.

Your ignorance and hatred clearly shows in your posts.
Jfl at your pathetic attempt at gaining reacts only to end up looking like a crazy vitamin d addict.
also jfl at using a screenshot from quora in an argument.

 

[Atem Rah]

This is what a Christian teacher has to say about Muhammad marrying a young girl, and what the real time a girl is ready for marriage should be.

Jfl at how he rebuked islam but struggled to explain how the bible itself used puberty as a sole factor for determining things.
He is a hypocrite.

 

[looksmaxxed]

islam is cope for shitskins who think they could have sex with sharia.

 

[AbuSAF]

islam is cope for shitskins who think they could have sex with sharia.

im getting married cry about it after rotting on this site after 3 years

Islam is the largest religion in the world and taking over Europe, we will take your lands and while you have your dogs and one child, we will have triple your children, may Allah break your back ya mushrik kaffir

 

[Deleted member 16039]

Jfl at how he rebuked islam but struggled to explain how the bible itself used puberty as a sole factor for determining things.
He is a hypocrite.

I don't think he struggled with explaining. He described females who had their menstruation as women, and those who did not as children. That's what adulthood means by a biological standpoint; sexual maturity, or the ability to reproduce.

 

[Atem Rah]

I don't think he struggled with explaining. He described females who had their menstruation as women, and those who did not as children. That's what adulthood means by a biological standpoint; sexual maturity, or the ability to reproduce.

it's funny how he points a finger at islam for doing the same.

 

[Deleted member 16039]

it's funny how he points a finger at islam for doing the same.

Except he is talking about Muhammad, a man in his fifties, who married and had sex with a prepubescent girl. That is not waiting for her to pass the flower of her age (menarche).

 

[Atem Rah]

had sex with a prepubescent girl

wrong. Just keep regurgitating the information.

 

[Deleted member 16039]

wrong. Just keep regurgitating the information.

So now you're just gonna deny Muhammad married a 6 year old and had sex with her at age 9? That's just a myth?

How would you know? You have a time machine? You're a higher authority than historians?

Sounds like a giant cope to deny the pedophilic practices that happens in Islam.

 

[exeight]

man im not even islamic and ayesha argument is stupid, she was 19 which is still weird though

shut the fuck up man
im an EX muslim and believe me she was in pre puberty when that fucked up mohammad
engaged her

i will bring some evidence but later because right now
no time

 

[kuk]

shut the fuck up man
im an EX muslim and believe me she was in pre puberty when that fucked up mohammad
engaged her

i will bring some evidence but later because right now
no time

oh you gonna bring evidence, that isnt apart of the quran, i forgot but those saying 9 are iraqi idiots

 

[Atem Rah]

im an EX muslim

you're probably not even larping about being an ex muslim to try and defame islam.

 

[Atem Rah]

How would you know? You have a time machine? You're a higher authority than historians?

how would You know ?
it's not like you or the historians have a time machine either.

had sex with a prepubescent girl.

married a 6 year old and had sex with her at age 9?

Your statements are inconsistent.
first you say prepubescent and now you're saying 9 year old.
Why would you just assume that she was prepubescent at that age as well ?
also why did he wait for 3 years in the first place ?

you're just mixing lies with truth.

 

[KeepGrinding]

man im not even islamic and ayesha argument is stupid, she was 19 which is still weird though

I was a Muslim convert and the most authentic sources say she was 6 at marriage and 9 at "consummation of marriage".

Muslims will gaslight you about everything and are incredibly nationalistic and racist towards white male converts, unless it's a (white) female, then they will flood her with marriage proposals and her life will be hell, if she accepts one of them.

Turks and Arabs were more likely to be racist towards me, especially the older generations.
I also got to know Chechens and Russians who were great people, they seemed like they are genuine and they always fightmaxx and will help you whenever you ask them for anything.
There are things that I only encountered and understood because I converted to Islam.

According to Islam:
-You will be in hell for not properly cleaning after urinating.
-Circumcision (male and female) is of the Fritrah (natural predisposition) while cutting your disgusting unkempt beard is not (it's forbidden in most Madhab)

-You have to wait for marriage, to even TOUCH A WOMAN, you can't masturbate or relieve yourself in any other way, even though there are multiple ahadith that state, that sex slavery is halal and women aren't allowed to resist sex, if you "need it" unless she has an Islamic reason. (like her being on her period) Escortmaxxing is haram, but sex slavery and raping women directly after killing their family members is fine.
-If a fly is in your drink you are supposed to dip it inside completely and drink it, because one wing has poison and the other has the antidote.
-Drinking a camel's urine is a remedy for illness and very healthy.
-If your pants are below your ankles, that part of your body will burn in hell.
-A man becomes your relative if you let him suckle on your tits.

All of this is from authentic ahadith, Muslims never tell you this ridiculous stuff, you have to sift through this on your own. They will just tell you why Islam is the best, but then you find out that everything is haram and you start to wonder why you are still torturing yourself.

Most muslim women aren't even virgins lmao they secretly have sex and get surgery to cover it up

This is a known fact, even the Imam at our masjid kept saying this. Be a good cuck and marry some brown, bug-eyed Arab/Turk woman that doesn't take care of her hair, since many Muslim women have no skincare and haircare routine, because of hijab.

 

[KeepGrinding]

how would You know ?
it's not like you or the historians have a time machine either.




Your statements are inconsistent.
first you say prepubescent and now you're saying 9 year old.
Why would you just assume that she was prepubescent at that age as well ?
also why did he wait for 3 years in the first place ?

you're just mixing lies with truth.

You're mentally ill if you seriously defend a 50-year-old man grooming a kid from age 6 to 9, only to rape her after she starts having her period is ok and that this person is free of sin because he is a "Prophet of God" and the best of mankind.
If you are actually a Muslim you HAVE TO acknowledge the Ahadith.
How did you learn the prayer? It's taken from Ahadith.

oh you gonna bring evidence, that isnt apart of the quran, i forgot but those saying 9 are iraqi idiots

You're a Quranist, which means most Muslims don't even consider you a Muslim and would call you part of a sect that burns in hell
Even if you only take the Qur'an itself, it states that "marriage" aka grooming is allowed as soon as she has her period.

 

[KeepGrinding]

im getting married cry about it after rotting on this site after 3 years

Islam is the largest religion in the world and taking over Europe, we will take your lands and while you have your dogs and one child, we will have triple your children, may Allah break your back ya mushrik kaffir

It only takes over because Mulsim women shit out 5 kids on average, but those kids actually apostate Islam, when they grow up in the west and become total degenerates and hypocrites.

 

[kuk]

You're mentally ill if you seriously defend a 50-year-old man grooming a kid from age 6 to 9, only to rape her after she starts having her period is ok and that this person is free of sin because he is a "Prophet of God" and the best of mankind.
If you are actually a Muslim you HAVE TO acknowledge the Ahadith.
How did you learn the prayer? It's taken from Ahadith.


You're a Quranist, which means most Muslims don't even consider you a Muslim and would call you part of a sect that burns in hell
Even if you only take the Qur'an itself, it states that "marriage" aka grooming is allowed as soon as she has her period.

SHE WASNT 9999999

 

[kuk]

You're mentally ill if you seriously defend a 50-year-old man grooming a kid from age 6 to 9, only to rape her after she starts having her period is ok and that this person is free of sin because he is a "Prophet of God" and the best of mankind.
If you are actually a Muslim you HAVE TO acknowledge the Ahadith.
How did you learn the prayer? It's taken from Ahadith.


You're a Quranist, which means most Muslims don't even consider you a Muslim and would call you part of a sect that burns in hell
Even if you only take the Qur'an itself, it states that "marriage" aka grooming is allowed as soon as she has her period.

LOL do you think i care. i know nothing happens before death. which is way better than hell or heaven

 

[KeepGrinding]

LOL do you think i care. i know nothing happens before death. which is way better than hell or heaven

Ok, then why are you a Qur'anist? You are one of the 72 deviant sects that go to hell.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

I was a Muslim convert and the most authentic sources say she was 6 at marriage and 9 at "consummation of marriage".

Muslims will gaslight you about everything and are incredibly nationalistic and racist towards white male converts, unless it's a (white) female, then they will flood her with marriage proposals and her life will be hell, if she accepts one of them.

Turks and Arabs were more likely to be racist towards me, especially the older generations.
I also got to know Chechens and Russians who were great people, they seemed like they are genuine and they always fightmaxx and will help you whenever you ask them for anything.
There are things that I only encountered and understood because I converted to Islam.

According to Islam:
-You will be in hell for not properly cleaning after urinating.
-Circumcision (male and female) is of the Fritrah (natural predisposition) while cutting your disgusting unkempt beard is not (it's forbidden in most Madhab)

-You have to wait for marriage, to even TOUCH A WOMAN, you can't masturbate or relieve yourself in any other way, even though there are multiple ahadith that state, that sex slavery is halal and women aren't allowed to resist sex, if you "need it" unless she has an Islamic reason. (like her being on her period) Escortmaxxing is haram, but sex slavery and raping women directly after killing their family members is fine.
-If a fly is in your drink you are supposed to dip it inside completely and drink it, because one wing has poison and the other has the antidote.
-Drinking a camel's urine is a remedy for illness and very healthy.
-If your pants are below your ankles, that part of your body will burn in hell.
-A man becomes your relative if you let him suckle on your tits.

All of this is from authentic ahadith, Muslims never tell you this ridiculous stuff, you have to sift through this on your own. They will just tell you why Islam is the best, but then you find out that everything is haram and you start to wonder why you are still torturing yourself.


This is a known fact, even the Imam at our masjid kept saying this. Be a good cuck and marry some brown, bug-eyed Arab/Turk woman that doesn't take care of her hair, since many Muslim women have no skincare and haircare routine, because of hijab.

Lol what were you even thinking when converting
Inb4 “peaceful” Muslim kill you for leaving their religion

 

[KeepGrinding]

Lol what were you even thinking when converting
Inb4 “peaceful” Muslim kill you for leaving their religion

I was at a low point in my life, was considering suicide and then I met someone who wouldn't shut up about Islam. I literally got brainwashed by those people, they told me so much stuff and didn't tell me how much suffering converting to Islam entailed.

Also, an Imam called me just now, asking me how I was doing (after almost 1 year of not talking to me and ignoring my messages ). I told him I'm not a Muslim anymore, then he went into monologue mode and talked for 20 minutes straight, I tried to cut him off when talking, but he just continued.
He told me "You don't have to live like a monk." except, according to Islam, you do have to live like a monk, because sex outside of marriage is haram, talking to women is haram, masturbation is haram, prostitution is haram(even though sex slaves aren't) and everything else is haram as well.

Videogames? haram
Music? haram
any job where you miss Friday prayer? haram
any job where you touch alcohol? haram
any job where you handle meat that hasn't been slaughtered in a very specific way? haram.

You wouldn't believe how much shit I had to go through because I actually adhered to the religion and you think my "brothers" helped me in any way? Hell no, they just said "insha'Allah" and ghosted me.
Also, most Muslims I met were utter losers in life, leeching off the state or still living with their parent, going nowhere in life.
Of course, it's easy to not miss Friday prayer, when you don't have a fucking job!

These ugly ethnics don't even have women looking their way, no wonder they find it easy to stay celibate, for me it was literal torture, since I am still studying at Uni I don't "qualify" for marriage, so I have to stay celibate for AT LEAST 3-5 years.
Finding a wife isn't easy and pretty much impossible for me, since the older generation hate me by default and I don't have a family looking for a wife.
They think you giving up your whole life, family, and friends is easy, when most of these assholes can't even pray regularly.
I woke up almost every night and prayed, voluntarily fasted every second day, learned Arabic, learned Tajweed, and generally sook out knowledge.

Then you talk to a jobless born Muslim, that doesn't pray, can't read or understand Arabic, and is leeching off benefits, but he's already married, but I don't "qualify" for marriage? Yeah, sure ...
I'm so angry at most Muslims, even when I was a Muslim, I hated most Muslims.

Btw any "serious" Muslim that is browsing this site is already a hypocrite, if you were sincere you wouldn't visit this website.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

I was at a low point in my life, was considering suicide and then I met someone who wouldn't shut up about Islam. I literally got brainwashed by those people, they told me so much stuff and didn't tell me how much suffering converting to Islam entailed.

Also, an Imam called me just now, asking me how I was doing (after almost 1 year of not talking to me and ignoring my messages ). I told him I'm not a Muslim anymore, then he went into monologue mode and talked for 20 minutes straight, I tried to cut him off when talking, but he just continued.
He told me "You don't have to live like a monk." except, according to Islam, you do have to live like a monk, because sex outside of marriage is haram, talking to women is haram, masturbation is haram, prostitution is haram(even though sex slaves aren't) and everything else is haram as well.

Videogames? haram
Music? haram
any job where you miss Friday prayer? haram
any job where you touch alcohol? haram
any job where you handle meat that hasn't been slaughtered in a very specific way? haram.

You wouldn't believe how much shit I had to go through because I actually adhered to the religion and you think my "brothers" helped me in any way? Hell no, they just said "insha'Allah" and ghosted me.
Also, most Muslims I met were utter losers in life, leeching off the state or still living with their parent, going nowhere in life.
Of course, it's easy to not miss Friday prayer, when you don't have a fucking job!

These ugly ethnics don't even have women looking their way, no wonder they find it easy to stay celibate, for me it was literal torture, since I am still studying at Uni I don't "qualify" for marriage, so I have to stay celibate for AT LEAST 3-5 years.
Finding a wife isn't easy and pretty much impossible for me, since the older generation hate me by default and I don't have a family looking for a wife.
They think you giving up your whole life, family, and friends is easy, when most of these assholes can't even pray regularly.
I woke up almost every night and prayed, voluntarily fasted every second day, learned Arabic, learned Tajweed, and generally sook out knowledge.

Then you talk to a jobless born Muslim, that doesn't pray, can't read or understand Arabic, and is leeching off benefits, but he's already married, but I don't "qualify" for marriage? Yeah, sure ...
I'm so angry at most Muslims, even when I was a Muslim, I hated most Muslims.

Btw any "serious" Muslim that is browsing this site is already a hypocrite, if you were sincere you wouldn't visit this website.

Islam is religion for neet incels who need to force women to marry them to have sex bcz otherwise they can’t

Also most Muslim girls are ugly so not like you missed out on anything even all the Muslims chase non Muslim chicks @ForeverRecession

 

[KeepGrinding]

Islam is religion for neet incels who need to force women to marry them to have sex bcz otherwise they can’t

Also most Muslim girls are ugly so not like you missed out on anything even all the Muslims chase non Muslim chicks @ForeverRecession

That's what I was thinking as well, I'm german, got a great eye area, have green eyes, got a good lower third, and look decent overall. I even get mires from women every now and then, if I had a better hairline and had my hair transplant already I would mog this entire fucking forum, no joke.
Some girl even took a video of me yesterday on the train, I caught her because she sperged out and made it too obvious.

I'd be throwing my genetics away if I married a deathnic Muslim girl.
The only women I would have considered for marriage would have been other white converts, but those are rare and bombarded with marriage proposals the second they convert by desperate Muslimcels.

 

[Deleted member 16039]

how would You know ?
it's not like you or the historians have a time machine either.

So I guess any person can just question all of history and just discard it because there isn't a time machine? So I can just say people like Plato, Aristotle, Isaac Newton, Abraham Lincoln, were all just fake because hey, we don't have a time machine.

Your statements are inconsistent.
first you say prepubescent and now you're saying 9 year old.

9 year olds are prepubescent you numskull

Why would you just assume that she was prepubescent at that age as well ?

because 9 year olds aren't pubescent. why would you assume she is pubescent

You do realize puberty age has dropped in recent years due to chemicals in the food. In the past puberty didn't start until 14-15, unlike today when it is 11-12, average menarche today is slightly below 13.

also why did he wait for 3 years in the first place ?

how am I supposed to know. In Islam I heard that they inspect the physical readiness to see if a girl can take dick. She doesn't necessarily need to have had her period.

@TsarTsar444 thoughts? Doesn't Islam promote sex with girls before puberty if they are physically ready to handle dick?

you're just mixing lies with truth.

No, its not lies. You are reaching and hoping its lies, you're hoping that somehow she hit puberty at 9, just so you can justify his pedophilia. In reality, he still married her at age 6, which is before puberty. Also puberty and menarche are not the same exact thing, pubertal onset and menarche are different ages. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove she reached menarche at 9, which is extremely early.

Christianity doesn't even allow for a prepubescent marriage, just to wait until menarche, and then consummate it. Marriage happens only when the woman has had her first period, and THEN she can get married. They don't practice this weird pedo marriage stuff like Islam does.

 

[Albeacho]

What is a better alternative to Islam? The west were foids are encouraged to have tons of casual sex and engage in degeneracy?
I don't deny that muslim whores exists but overall you are 100 percent more likely to find a virgin Muslim pious wife than a non Muslim one. Just this aspect of the religion makes it better than any other ideology or religion.

 

[Gestapo]

What is a better alternative to Islam? The west were foids are encouraged to have tons of casual sex and engage in degeneracy?
I don't deny that muslim whores exists but overall you are 100 percent more likely to find a virgin Muslim pious wife than a non Muslim one. Just this aspect of the religion makes it better than any other ideology or religion.

This obsession with virginity is only found in humans and usually humans in niche organizations like psl or extreme religious groups.
I'm here to tell you virgins are overrated in almost every way.
My advice to you would be to find a purpose other than reproduction sex and marriage like some hobby or field of study just pursue that become good at it till you make money from it. Expand your social circle, be NT, and improve your looks. After all this girls will come to you and they should be an addition to your life not the sole focus like this site makes it out to be.

 

[Albeacho]

This obsession with virginity is only found in humans and usually humans in niche organizations like psl or extreme religious groups.
I'm here to tell you virgins are overrated in almost every way.

I don't care where it comes from but it is something that I have always cared about, I can't imagine my future wife that I want to love and care about being a non virgin and touched and fucked by another man. If you don't care and are willing to marry some used foid then that is your choice.

My advice to you would be to find a purpose other than reproduction sex and marriage like some hobby or field of study just pursue that become good at it till you make money from it. Expand your social circle, be NT, and improve your looks. After all this girls will come to you and they should be an addition to your life not the sole focus like this site makes it out to be.

sure I absolutely agree but the girl that is gonna be the addition in my life should be pure and untouched because I would not have it any other way.

 

[exeight]

oh you gonna bring evidence, that isnt apart of the quran, i forgot but those saying 9 are iraqi idiots

here you go;

quote;

"Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death)."

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 - Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah) - كتاب النكاح - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Hadith is something like the quran.. its about mohammads life


and here;

"Aisha was Prophet Muhammad's was the favorite of Muhammad's wives. He married her when she was six to seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years old according to the tradition (see "Aisha's Age at Consummation and Marriage"), making her Muhammad's youngest bride. Her young age is also seen in the tradition as proof of her pristine virginity at the time of her marriage to the prophet. Muhammad preferred to sleep with and have sex with Aisha above all of his other wives, and according to the tradition he died in her arms. As the favorite wife of the prophet, she was given a pre-eminent place amongst the companions of the prophet and in the isnads of the hadith she plays a pivotal role as the originator of many traditions."

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Aisha

wikiislam.net

 

[goldensoul]

Cuck thread lookism would never pin a retarded thread like this one. Copemax.org is a joke.

 

[winter]

how did this get pinned most uneducated thread ever

 

[Atem Rah]

The burden of proof is on YOU to prove she reached menarche at 9, which is extremely early.

The burden of proof should be on the accuser not the accused.

One can clearly understand the intention behind the 3 years gap between marriage and consummation.

Doesn't Islam promote sex with girls before puberty if they are physically ready to handle dick?

no proof. keep trolling. You're probably confusing islam with your fantasies.

9 year olds are prepubescent

yes, generally that's true but there can be exceptions.
I do not advocate breaking the law.

It's just that there is a difference between the law of that period and the current period.

What was normal then isn't normal now.
and what's normal now probably wont be normal in the future.

what you are doing is applying the law retrospectively to judge someone from the past which isnt quite fair in this case.

Ignoring the level of physical, mental and sexual maturity isn't a very good idea.
It's something which must be given due importance along with the law.

I am sure that we can atleast agree that
The two conditions which must be satisfied are 1) upholding the current law and 2) reaching a certain level of maturity.
and these two conditions were satisfied at that time.

 

[HAPAgymcel]

Only based part of it that I follow is dietary code

 

[Deleted member 16039]

The burden of proof should be on the accuser not the accused.

The burden of proof is on the person making the bold claim, menstruation at 9 is a bold claim since it is quite uncommon, especially when you consider that its only due to modern chemicals in foods puberty starts so early in modern times.

One can clearly understand the intention behind the 3 years gap between marriage and consummation.

Not necessarily, because in christianity a couple may do that, but not because they were married when the woman was prepubescent, but pubescent but in early puberty, and waiting til she is closer to the end of it.

the fact that marriage at a premarital age can happen, makes me think its possible consummation can happen before menstruation. Even today in Yemen the age of consent is 9 within marriage, and not every girl has her period at 9

no proof. keep trolling. You're probably confusing islam with your fantasies.

Pedophilia in the Qur'an - WikiIslam

wikiislam.github.io

yes, generally that's true but there can be exceptions.
I do not advocate breaking the law.

It's just that there is a difference between the law of that period and the current period.

What was normal then isn't normal now.
and what's normal now probably wont be normal in the future.

what you are doing is applying the law retrospectively to judge someone from the past which isnt quite fair in this case.

Ignoring the level of physical, mental and sexual maturity isn't a very good idea.
It's something which must be given due importance along with the law.

I am sure that we can atleast agree that
The two conditions which must be satisfied are 1) upholding the current law and 2) reaching a certain level of maturity.
and these two conditions were satisfied at that time.

I agree one should follow the law of the land. However, the law doesn't always prohibit all immoral activity.

As for maturity, the level of maturity needed to be reached can vary.

Even today you see age of consent laws vary all over the place, and thats even within the same country just in different states or districts.