Removing Eppley cheek implants

I don't take any anti-aging supplements, unless you count Botox. My supplements are all just vitamins or intended to support digestion.
You still on fin or dut?
 
No--is there reason to be? I've been under six times over ten years for cosmetic reasons. I don't think I've been under GE other than that.
I’m getting it soon, pretty worried. No idea why either. I’m scared I don’t wake up; or end up brain damaged after being put to sleep, but it seems very, very rare. You’ve never been worried? Do you go straight to sleep everytime, never remember anything from it?
What was your longest surgery?
 
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I’m getting it soon, pretty worried. No idea why either. I’m scared I don’t wake up; or end up brain damaged after being put to sleep, but it seems very, very rare. You’ve never been worried? Do you go straight to sleep everytime, never remember anything from it?
What was your longest surgery?
Chill tf out. You're literally just asleep and you wake up a few hours later. It's not a big deal. Just make sure the anesthesiologist checks your throat beforehand to see if you need a breathing tube or not.

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Chill tf out. You're literally just asleep and you wake up a few hours later. It's not a big deal. Just make sure the anesthesiologist checks your throat beforehand or things can get ugly...

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Appreciate that! Reddit is painfully annoying with scare mongering, it’s actually more positive here believe it or not, minus the trolling. What can get ugly if they don’t check the throat? Also I’m presuming they genuinely check you before hand for allergies, and stuff. I’ve never been put to sleep other than the gas, so kinda worried lol
 
Appreciate that! Reddit is painfully annoying with scare mongering, it’s actually more positive here believe it or not, minus the trolling. What can get ugly if they don’t check the throat? Also I’m presuming they genuinely check you before hand for allergies, and stuff. I’ve never been put to sleep other than the gas, so kinda worried lol
It's fine. I was scared too but once you do it once it's no problem anymore. They check the throat to see if you need a breathing tube or not. They don't really check for allergies or anything so just cross your fingers that you don't have any. Either way, being brain damaged with a sharp jawline is better than being an incel, at least you'll be more low inhib and even braindead Chad can slay:

 
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It's fine. I was scared too but once you do it once it's no problem anymore. They check the throat to see if you need a breathing tube or not. They don't really check for allergies or anything so just cross your fingers that you don't have any. Either way, being brain damaged with a sharp jawline is better than being an incel, at least you'll be more low inhib and even braindead Chad can slay:


The thing is I’m not incel, I’m in a pretty decent band, I’m doing this entirely for myself because I’ve always disliked how my jaw looks in photos and don’t wanna look back on it in 20 years and remember it lol

I found this forum, researched, got a proper surgeon who told me I’d benefit from DJS and Genio. I’ve never had any issues with girls, or making friends, I do alright. It’s just I hate people looking at me from the side, it’s similar to Cole Sprouse’s side profile. Any picture I see, I hate it. And it’s inevitable in the career choice I’m aiming for. So I thought I’d try look my best and pull a Tom Cruise lmao

I’m just a bit of a health anxious guy for some reason.
 
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Either way, being brain damaged with a sharp jawline is better than being an incel
For some reason the way you said that had me pissing myself 😂
 
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its the mismatch between your eye area (supraorbital projection and orbital shape)
 
its the mismatch between your eye area (supraorbital projection and orbital shape)
Can you be a little more specific? Are you talking about an issue with the cheek implants?
 
Just contacted Eppley to book--I'm going to have them removed. I know I like how I looked before, so going back to something that I'm certain will look good is the best approach for me. I don't like the uncertainty of not knowing how a remove, shave, and replace would look. I just hope that removing them doesn't cause sagging or skin thickening, but I don't think there's much risk.
 
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Good idea. I personally thought you never needed them. In the future I guess you could always get fillers or fat grafts to make the area look more neotenous.
Yup, I think I was just in the mood to get something done. Worst reason to have surgery tbh...
 
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Yup, I think I was just in the mood to get something done. Worst reason to have surgery tbh...
What do u look like with cheekbones removed?

I seen that recessed pic of u and u look better now in most aspects
 
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I’m getting it soon, pretty worried. No idea why either. I’m scared I don’t wake up; or end up brain damaged after being put to sleep, but it seems very, very rare. You’ve never been worried? Do you go straight to sleep everytime, never remember anything from it?
What was your longest surgery?
i've been under its simply just one moment your awake and the next moment your like wtf its over already? but I also imagine its what death is like tbh
 
What do u look like with cheekbones removed?

I seen that recessed pic of u and u look better now in most aspects
If you look on my IG (@winbmar), all the pics from October 2020 and earlier are before the cheek implants.
 
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If you look on my IG (@winbmar), all the pics from October 2020 and earlier are before the cheek implants.
were you getting fillers on cheekbone back then? because it's like you already got decent cheekbones
 
If you look on my IG (@winbmar), all the pics from October 2020 and earlier are before the cheek implants.
Well you get eye augmentation or are you satisfied with your eye area. You def inspired me to go with Dr Y for wrap around implant but Taban might be the only person I trust with eye area
 
were you getting fillers on cheekbone back then? because it's like you already got decent cheekbones
I was--pretty decent amount. I've decided I just like using filler better; more expensive over the long term, but so much more predictable and easy to control. With two rounds of custom implants, I've definitely found that it's really, really hard to predict what you're going to look like based on a render. Kinda like you're aiming at a target you can't quite see.
 
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Well you get eye augmentation or are you satisfied with your eye area. You def inspired me to go with Dr Y for wrap around implant but Taban might be the only person I trust with eye area
I had the equivalent of Taban's almond eye surgery with a surgeon in Seattle and got a good result. He needs to do a touch-up and lift one of my lower lids a bit more, but he did really nice work. His name is AJ Amadi. Taban is great, but the almond eye surgery is just his term for a combined ptosis repair/lower lid retraction. Super basic procedures that any oculoplastic specialist can do.
 
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I was--pretty decent amount. I've decided I just like using filler better; more expensive over the long term, but so much more predictable and easy to control. With two rounds of custom implants, I've definitely found that it's really, really hard to predict what you're going to look like based on a render. Kinda like you're aiming at a target you can't quite see.
I like the idea of filler way more then implants
Also since the face change with age so with filler you can theoretically adjust to it
Sadly I am concerned about the build up which can happen if you fill to mich over time
What’s your thought on that?
 
I was--pretty decent amount. I've decided I just like using filler better; more expensive over the long term, but so much more predictable and easy to control. With two rounds of custom implants, I've definitely found that it's really, really hard to predict what you're going to look like based on a render. Kinda like you're aiming at a target you can't quite see.
Yes but i mean did you get cheekbone fillers back then in, such as this pic ?




If not, you already got pretty decent cheekbones.
 
Yes but i mean did you get cheekbone fillers back then in, such as this pic ?




If not, you already got pretty decent cheekbones.

Yes, I had filler there. I'd had some amount of cheek filler in for years; it varied, but there was always some.
 
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I like the idea of filler way more then implants
Also since the face change with age so with filler you can theoretically adjust to it
Sadly I am concerned about the build up which can happen if you fill to mich over time
What’s your thought on that?
Yeah, I agree. Implants are tough to get just right, especially malar/zygo implants.

I think that you can definitely get into trouble if you fill too much as you hit middle age; that's when you lose more collagen so tissue expands more easily. At under 45 or so, it's not as much of a problem. Every surgeon has told me, for example, that I shouldn't have skin sag removing my implants at 39 because my skin is still tight at my age.
 
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Yeah, I agree. Implants are tough to get just right, especially malar/zygo implants.

I think that you can definitely get into trouble if you fill too much as you hit middle age; that's when you lose more collagen so tissue expands more easily. At under 45 or so, it's not as much of a problem. Every surgeon has told me, for example, that I shouldn't have skin sag removing my implants at 39 because my skin is still tight at my age.
So you would say it would be safe to get small jawline filler every 6-12 months
Basically as a maintenance
 
So you would say it would be safe to get small jawline filler every 6-12 months
Basically as a maintenance
I think it's safe in terms of tissue stretching--and that's not as big a risk in the jaw area as it is in cheeks--but I don't think filler makes much difference in the jawline. Just too much volume required.
 
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I think it's safe in terms of tissue stretching--and that's not as big a risk in the jaw area as it is in cheeks--but I don't think filler makes much difference in the jawline. Just too much volume required.
what's your bizygomatic width and bigonial width? how much width implants added your face ?
 
what's your bizygomatic width and bigonial width? how much width implants added your face ?
I've never measured and have no idea. The implants added about 3mm of projection at the cheek.
 
off-topic but I like you just stay on topic and don't get riled up by the autism on here. keep it up man.
 
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@Win200 Thanks for this thread, it has been a great read. You are the top looksmaxer here.

Do you have before/after photos of your profile? I've been really curious how the extra mass in the jaw from implants affects someone's submental area.
 
off-topic but I like you just stay on topic and don't get riled up by the autism on here. keep it up man.
Thanks! Haven't gotten bothered by anything; I just take it in stride. I try to be helpful and ignore the rest.
 
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@Win200 Thanks for this thread, it has been a great read. You are the top looksmaxer here.

Do you have before/after photos of your profile? I've been really curious how the extra mass in the jaw from implants affects someone's submental area.
Sure--2014 on the left (31) and 2020 on the right (38). On the right, I've also had an additional hair transplant and the Eppley cheek implants.

Photo 2
Left profile
 
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Sure--2014 on the left (31) and 2020 on the right (38). On the right, I've also had an additional hair transplant and the Eppley cheek implants.

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Worth mentioning too that Dr. Y did some minor lipo in the submental area when he placed the jaw implant. I had a little bit of fat that wouldn't budge no matter how lean I got.
 
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Worth mentioning too that Dr. Y did some minor lipo in the submental area when he placed the jaw implant. I had a little bit of fat that wouldn't budge no matter how lean I got.
wanted to ask exactly that
normal lipo or injection lipo?
 
wanted to ask exactly that
normal lipo or injection lipo?
Normal lipo, I believe. But I didn't ask. Whichever it was, it was definitely worthwhile.
 
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Not sure if you’ve been asked already but I’m curious how did your life change after looksmaxxing? Did people treat you differently? More or less haters? Life get easier? I’m currently wearing a mask all the time due to rhinoplasty over the summer. Got asymmetric swelling :feelswhy: wanna get wrap around jaw implant or Taban almond eye package after the nose swelling is all the way down but not sure which I should do first. But those would be very noticeable surgeries. I already have a chin implant as well but I’ll get it removed for the improvement in the gonions. Long winded post but in general, how did looksmaxxing impact your life?
 
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Not sure if you’ve been asked already but I’m curious how did your life change after looksmaxxing? Did people treat you differently? More or less haters? Life get easier? I’m currently wearing a mask all the time due to rhinoplasty over the summer. Got asymmetric swelling :feelswhy: wanna get wrap around jaw implant or Taban almond eye package after the nose swelling is all the way down but not sure which I should do first. But those would be very noticeable surgeries. I already have a chin implant as well but I’ll get it removed for the improvement in the gonions. Long winded post but in general, how did looksmaxxing impact your life?
Huge change. Before I got any work done, I had a shit side profile--weak chin and long, thin nose. I would never let myself be photographed in profile and was always conscious of how I stood to try to avoid people seeing me from the side. Once I got work done, my confidence went through the roof and people started getting more deferential to me--probably out of a combo of my increased confidence and the fact that good looking people just get better treatment.

The change were also a huge mental health boost. I stopped obsessing about my nose, stopped obsessing about my hairline; having surgery just sort of frees you up from thinking about things and letting them weigh you down. It buys you peace of mind. If you knew me at age 20 and then met me again now, I'd seem like a different person in terms of confidence and the way I carry myself.
 
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Huge change. Before I got any work done, I had a shit side profile--weak chin and long, thin nose. I would never let myself be photographed in profile and was always conscious of how I stood to try to avoid people seeing me from the side. Once I got work done, my confidence went through the roof and people started getting more deferential to me--probably out of a combo of my increased confidence and the fact that good looking people just get better treatment.

The change were also a huge mental health boost. I stopped obsessing about my nose, stopped obsessing about my hairline; having surgery just sort of frees you up from thinking about things and letting them weigh you down. It buys you peace of mind. If you knew me at age 20 and then met me again now, I'd seem like a different person in terms of confidence and the way I carry myself.
at which did you get your surgery done?
 
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Also your teeth looks really good
What have you done/do for them?

also how do you keep your body hairless?
Shaving, laser (which one?), ipl, waxing?
 
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Quick question op. Thanks for posting this btw. Tonnes of trolls on here.

How much did putting the implants with Epply cost you exactly?
 
Previous discussion of my procedures/results is in this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/new-implant-result-guy-with-cheek-and-jaw-implant-from-dr-e.236061/

Link to the rendering of the implants is here:

Bottom line is Eppley placed custom malar/infraorbital rim implants in November 2020. Now that I've had nine months with them, I'm pretty firm on getting them removed. They're too big in almost every way--lateral projection, forward projection, infraorbital rim augmentation. The ogee curve they form looks, to me, completely unnatural. The tear trough augmentation is a bit convex, which looks puffy, and the entire mid-section of my face is just oversized. It's particularly pronounced when I smile and all my cheek tissue is bunched up on top of the implants. One of the worst parts is that the augmentation around the eye socket creates an unnatural "ringing" around the lower half of my eye, making the eyes look sunken (you see this in the pic below where I'm holding my phone).

I just don't feel like I look like myself; every other procedure, I always saw myself in the end result, but this created a look that doesn't feel like me and the little bit of dysmorphia is unnerving.

Open to comments, and not sure if I'm doing a remove and replace with a smaller implant, or just a removal. (I'm concerned about cheek sagging with removal due to the capsule around the implants.)

I agree with you that you over-did it, I think smaller implants will do you well. I am not sure how you look without implants so I can't say if removal is best.

IMO the jaw looks fine, you def need narrower cheek implants.
 
Not sure if you’ve been asked already but I’m curious how did your life change after looksmaxxing? Did people treat you differently? More or less haters? Life get easier? I’m currently wearing a mask all the time due to rhinoplasty over the summer. Got asymmetric swelling :feelswhy: wanna get wrap around jaw implant or Taban almond eye package after the nose swelling is all the way down but not sure which I should do first. But those would be very noticeable surgeries. I already have a chin implant as well but I’ll get it removed for the improvement in the gonions. Long winded post but in general, how did looksmaxxing impact your life?

Dunno if that's a HT scar I can see on the back of your head but you can easily mask that with a little SMP.
It is, yeah. I'm gonna have some FUE grafts put into it, then SMP for even more coverage.
 
at which did you get your surgery done?
Did you mean at what age? I was 29 when I got my rhinoplasty/chin implant--that was my first surgery.
 
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Also your teeth looks really good
What have you done/do for them?

also how do you keep your body hairless?
Shaving, laser (which one?), ipl, waxing?
I had braces twice as a kid; no cosmetic dentistry. Just use white strips and brush a lot.
 
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Quick question op. Thanks for posting this btw. Tonnes of trolls on here.

How much did putting the implants with Epply cost you exactly?
Yeah, happy to do it! They were about $16k.
 
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I agree with you that you over-did it, I think smaller implants will do you well. I am not sure how you look without implants so I can't say if removal is best.

IMO the jaw looks fine, you def need narrower cheek implants.
Thanks! I definitely agree. Just too much mid-face volume. It looks better in motion than in pictures, but it really has a overly filled look, especially in the undereyes.
 
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It is, yeah. I'm gonna have some FUE grafts put into it, then SMP for even more coverage.

Truthfully, if you're going to continue running a fade like that I'm not even sure you would need the FUE
 

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