[Serious] Most people totally overestimate their gymcel potential, MUSCLE FIBER MAKEUP PILL, GTFINH!

[Sociobiology]

Yes i know, which was already stated above and corrected by me and slayer69


Fasting

Great Diet

Cycling

Appropriate dosages

Short term use (6 months to 2 yrs)

it shouldnt be THAT bad in regards to organ growth and what not

I see. I was too lazy to read through all the replies.

 

[Deleted member 17585]

dumb cope, I would say I have subpar insertions and look like the guy he showed as average gymcelled body, slightly worse though, but i like the way it looks atm so its not over just gymmax more bro.

i mean i went to the gym and i felt fine for now but im only doing it to lose weight, i just want toned abs with pretty boy face

 

[Biiyo03]

Great threads, keep em coming son.

 

[FreakkForLife]

I

Can't wait for Follistatin(Myostatin suppressant) to be approved

It already is approved.
Many peptide stores sell it?
Do u think thats fake follistatin?

 

[Deleted member 19499]

I

It already is approved.
Many peptide stores sell it?
Do u think thats fake follistatin?

Yeah, most likely. The real shit is probably harder to obtain and to administer properly. Maybe some rich bodybuilders can do that shit underground.

 

[FreakkForLife]

Yeah, most likely. The real shit is probably harder to obtain and to administer properly. Maybe some rich bodybuilders can do that shit underground.

Is the difference between what u buy online and the "real shit' same as difference Bett pharma and online generic hgh?

 

[6ft4]

Interesting topic

A note on Dwain Chambers, he claimed to only have improved on his 100m PB time by 0.10 going from completely natural v on every roid imaginable. Not sure if he's lying or not but his times across his entire career are pretty consistent from 19-35 apart from the year where he was clearly on roids and running faster times. If he's lying about when he started roiding there is the possibility he began roiding at 18 because his biggest leap in progress came from 18-19.

Also Ben Johnson never ran faster that 10.20 before he used roids, yet he managed to obliterate the world record after years of roid use

Now take Cristophe Lemaitre, the fastest white man in history with a PB of 9.92.
He was legit just skin and bones with zero explosiveness out of the blocks and his progress was steady until 21 when he fell off as soon as his he reached full natural physical development. Does this hint that he didn't use any banned substances?

Spoiler

Here's Lemaitre beating Chambers (when Chambers supposedly was clean after his ban

Does this raise the question of whether the physical difference between top tier white and top tier black sprinters isn't THAT much different and that Blacks have a better response to roids? I believe for muscle building purposes, whites would have to take higher doses of roids than blacks to get the same response, perhaps black sprinters respond better to PEDs which allows them to push the limits further than whites.

To someone who is doing sprint training. Is there any reason NOT to be using GH and testosterone in the early stages of your training if you want to maximize training as much as possible, does GH actually alter the muscle fibers causing them to contract faster when your sprint or does it mostly just help you recover faster from training?
I have been searching online for the ideal drugs protocol for a sprinter who is not subject to testing but can't find anything
From using roids I can say that tren activated muscle fibres in my chest that don't get activated at any other time, yes I was at peak strength on tren but when I maintained that strength on cruise test and eventually coming off completely my chest just did not look the same shape wise. Would tren do the same with the lower body and recruit extra muscle fibres which activate when sprinting?

This is kid the 4th fastest man ever in the 200m yet he looks like any skinny 18 year old physically which makes me question just how important the muscle itself is and whether having the drug in your system as you run (while keeping your bodyweight low) is the most important thing

Btw, this is the guy in the pic of the original post

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Interesting topic

A note on Dwain Chambers, he claimed to only have improved on his 100m PB time by 0.10 going from completely natural v on every roid imaginable. Not sure if he's lying or not but his times across his entire career are pretty consistent from 19-35 apart from the year where he was clearly on roids and running faster times. If he's lying about when he started roiding there is the possibility he began roiding at 18 because his biggest leap in progress came from 18-19.

Also Ben Johnson never ran faster that 10.20 before he used roids, yet he managed to obliterate the world record after years of roid use

Now take Cristophe Lemaitre, the fastest white man in history with a PB of 9.92.
He was legit just skin and bones with zero explosiveness out of the blocks and his progress was steady until 21 when he fell off as soon as his he reached full natural physical development. Does this hint that he didn't use any banned substances?

Spoiler

Here's Lemaitre beating Chambers (when Chambers supposedly was clean after his ban

Does this raise the question of whether the physical difference between top tier white and top tier black sprinters isn't THAT much different and that Blacks have a better response to roids? I believe for muscle building purposes, whites would have to take higher doses of roids than blacks to get the same response, perhaps black sprinters respond better to PEDs which allows them to push the limits further than whites.

To someone who is doing sprint training. Is there any reason NOT to be using GH and testosterone in the early stages of your training if you want to maximize training as much as possible, does GH actually alter the muscle fibers causing them to contract faster when your sprint or does it mostly just help you recover faster from training?
I have been searching online for the ideal drugs protocol for a sprinter who is not subject to testing but can't find anything
From using roids I can say that tren activated muscle fibres in my chest that don't get activated at any other time, yes I was at peak strength on tren but when I maintained that strength on cruise test and eventually coming off completely my chest just did not look the same shape wise. Would tren do the same with the lower body and recruit extra muscle fibres which activate when sprinting?

This is kid the 4th fastest man ever in the 200m yet he looks like any skinny 18 year old physically which makes me question just how important the muscle itself is and whether having the drug in your system as you run (while keeping your bodyweight low) is the most important thing

View attachment 1718825

Btw, this is the guy in the pic of the original post

Anyone who even claims roids are useless if you have poor genes for sports has never seen barry bonds in baseball who went from 30 home runs a season to 70 and suddenly gaining 40 pounds of muscle out of nowhere, has never seen Giannis Antetokounmpo, Holyfield and mike tyson in boxing(I'm convinced tyson was on them for ages, it only got even more obvious in his post prison career), or has ever spent time Lifting in a gym.

 

[Clark69]

Mirin' this thread hard. This site has the potential of being the best forum ever with The Library of Alexandria tier knowledge because of threads like these

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Fuark my guy ulyesses!!!

I remember back in 2014 I used to watch his videos with simeon panda. Would be mirin his massive bulge (no homo) and stupendously amazing striations

Good times

 

[Deleted member 19301]

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comparing 15% bodyfat natty vs 9% bf fake natty pill theory

 

[Moggedbyevery1]

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Fuark my guy ulyesses!!!

I remember back in 2014 I used to watch his videos with simeon panda. Would be mirin his massive bulge (no homo) and stupendously amazing striations

Good times

I thought they were all natural and I could look like them if i bought their protein powder

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Obligatory rich piana gif

 

[fuckedupmanlet]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

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@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
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The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

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This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

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The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
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Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


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Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
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Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!
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Spoiler: Tagging bros, gymcellers, looksmaxxers , in general, etc

[@gamma @alienmaxxer @looksmaxxer234 @Korea @Gargantuan @Prettyboy @Reckless Turtle @StrangerDanger @Biiyo03 @enchanted_elixir @geezcel @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @xefo @Adriana Lima @Kingkellz @ @ArvidGustavsson @Amnesia @Salludon @Armadillo @MakinItHappenReturn @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @fogdart @whiteissuperior @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Purefxrm @WontStopNorwooding @chaddyboi66 @LooksOverAll @VenomGT3 @Clark69 @alienmaxxer @papi mew @Alexanderr @slayer69 @Preston @VicMackey @rdsky @6ft4 @FastBananaCEO @lutte @coolguy1 @RecessedPrettyboy @kalefartbomb @Vermilioncore @Ass-ender @Ada Mustang @LMSMaxxer @Afrikancel @MentalCel @Wincel @TeenAscender @tyronelite /SPOILER]

jUsT nEvEr wOrK oUt bRo



Literally nobody here knows how to work out and program. If you did you would know that natty potential is way crazier than you think.

Btw if you have no idea how to work out off roids, you’re still gonna be a skinny little bitch when you inevitably lose all your hair and get cystic acne from your hormones being fucked.

 

[Deleted member 18849]

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I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me

Michael Ray Garvin

 

[Curlbrahhh]

A lot of bro science tbh and you could summarize with one line: Most of us won’t ever look like those fitness idols cause we’re not willing to take the huge amounts of drugs they take. People who are not in the know , underestimate how much shit these guys really take and for how long. Look at Internet forums where guys take 500mgs of test for a first cycle.. they still look natty because it takes years of blasting and cruising ( not only cycling) to look like those fitness idols. Stop with this bullshit bro science about incel genetics, etc

 

[klamus]

Uhh no one thinks they Will Look like that. Gymmaxxing is just something you can improve well into your 50s. Squatting 5 plates non bloatmaxxed must Be awesome

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

comparing 15% bodyfat natty vs 9% bf fake natty pill theory

Alpha destiny just uses "wet" steroids. Shadow pinners like him don't want to blow their cover.

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density

You can change your muscle composition with time and training.

 

[reputation]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

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@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
View attachment 1718220​

​

---

The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

---

This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

---

The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
View attachment 1718335

Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


View attachment 1718349

Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
View attachment 1718365View attachment 1718418

Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!
View attachment 1718377

Spoiler: Tagging bros, gymcellers, looksmaxxers , in general, etc

[@gamma @alienmaxxer @looksmaxxer234 @Korea @Gargantuan @Prettyboy @Reckless Turtle @StrangerDanger @Biiyo03 @enchanted_elixir @geezcel @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @xefo @Adriana Lima @Kingkellz @ @ArvidGustavsson @Amnesia @Salludon @Armadillo @MakinItHappenReturn @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @fogdart @whiteissuperior @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Purefxrm @WontStopNorwooding @chaddyboi66 @LooksOverAll @VenomGT3 @Clark69 @alienmaxxer @papi mew @Alexanderr @slayer69 @Preston @VicMackey @rdsky @6ft4 @FastBananaCEO @lutte @coolguy1 @RecessedPrettyboy @kalefartbomb @Vermilioncore @Ass-ender @Ada Mustang @LMSMaxxer @Afrikancel @MentalCel @Wincel @TeenAscender @tyronelite /SPOILER]

Getting/staying lean is top priority, big muscles are intimidating rather than attractive, men who think the opposite have distorted view of reality

 

[actual9cmjawslayer]

About two months ago I did an ancestry dna test to see if I had the ACTN3 gene. It told me I did not have the sprinter gene, and I was confused why it didnt tell me my exact set. Had to open up the raw data in notepad and CTRL F to find the actn3 gene. Told me I had two defect copies (two stop codons) and am one of the 18% utter subhumans of the world with two stop codons. Was brutal

 

[cmfanel]

its muscle insertions, which are determined by bone structure, and your anabolic response to steroids. its two things in tangent that determine if you will look like mike thurston or not.

this guy isnt actually bad, youre comparing him to genetic elite roiders. clearly from smaller delts and traps hes natty. if this guy has a good response to steroids he would look really good

 

[AlmostPerfect]

Thankful I have top tier insertions

 

[Mewton]

Isnt it myoglobin instead of haemoglobin thats in the muscles?

 

[Mewton]

Great thread btw
Another day , another X pill that we can never change thread

 

[Deleted member 19865]

You don't need to look like a fitness model to mog 90% of normies, since most don't even lift. You don't even need to do roids for that. Being fit is a huge aesthetic boost for most men, even if they don't have fitness model genetics, so gymmaxxing is definitely something people should still do. It's healthy, improves your looks, and it gets you out of the house.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You use this thread as an example of why gymcelling is cope but the 'average gymcelled dude' who you posted actually looks pretty good. Id say most people would be pretty happy to look like that. His physique is a massive SMV boost over being skinnyfat normie- his physique is similiar tier to mine tbh except id say my chest is better

 

[Racky]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

View attachment 1718240
@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
View attachment 1718220​

​

---

The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

---

This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

---

The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
View attachment 1718335

Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


View attachment 1718349

Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
View attachment 1718365View attachment 1718418

Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!​

What does this mean for people with very minor or mild forms of hemoglobinopathies like thalassemia?

Spoiler: my background

I might have thalassemia, since it’s common in West Africa, I have direct relatives who were diagnosed with it, and I rarely got malaria in my life even being outside often and getting stinged by mosquitoes a lot as a kid.

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

Good thread bro! Is there any way to tell my gymcelling potential? Currently overweight and thinking about putting on muscle but I might as well forget about it if I will end up looking like Alpha Dynasty.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

I forgot to mention that the mainstream muscle gains formula used by Lyle McDonald was derived from Champion bodybuilders like Reg Park whom happen to have a incredibly questionable natural status.

"Reg Park was natural and giving known steroid abusers a run for their money"~~ the dreamers.

In my personal experience, this formula is WAY too optimistic for a guy without top caliber genes(essentially gold medal olympic athletes or top ifbb pros). Greg Doucettes formula was negative, and Mike Mentzer was ultra pessimistic. Mentzer very controversially claimed one can reach their genetic muscular potential in a year as long as they follow a intelligently designed strength training regimen.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

its muscle insertions, which are determined by bone structure, and your anabolic response to steroids. its two things in tangent that determine if you will look like mike thurston or not.

this guy isnt actually bad, youre comparing him to genetic elite roiders. clearly from smaller delts and traps hes natty. if this guy has a good response to steroids he would look really good

The dosage matters too. You would need a lot more than you think to look like Simeon panda or Mike Thurston. Think like a gram or 2 of trenbolone, a gram or 2 of test, combined with pharmaceutical hgh and an oral. Your genetic starting point matters a ton as well. That's why astrosky looks awful even on trenbolone.

People wonder how could a guy could need trenbolone to achieve a body like this, the answer is the worst genetics on earth, combined with a very poor starting point. He also listens to Derek who advises you inject like a pussy.

 

[Tom Jones]

Fuck me. I have the non functional Variant of the ACNT3 gene.

But unfortunately I don’t look that subhuman even non gymcelled

https://looksmax.org/threads/rate-frame.507325/

 

[Sociobiology]

Bearing in mind that this guy is natural, his biggest failo is his lack of ab definition.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

All you need is a wide framed beach body rest is cope

 

[PunishedDollcel]

I don't even work out my legs. Too bad Becky and Stacy don't give a shit about lower body

 

[Curlbrahhh]

I don't even work out my legs. Too bad Becky and Stacy don't give a shit about lower body

Copee Becky and Stacies love muscular glutes … on Chads.

 

[Deleted member 19615]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

View attachment 1718240
@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
View attachment 1718220​

​

---

The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

---

This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

---

The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
View attachment 1718335

Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


View attachment 1718349

Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
View attachment 1718365View attachment 1718418

Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!
View attachment 1718377

Spoiler: Tagging bros, gymcellers, looksmaxxers , in general, etc

[@gamma @alienmaxxer @looksmaxxer234 @Korea @Gargantuan @Prettyboy @Reckless Turtle @StrangerDanger @Biiyo03 @enchanted_elixir @geezcel @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @xefo @Adriana Lima @Kingkellz @ @ArvidGustavsson @Amnesia @Salludon @Armadillo @MakinItHappenReturn @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @fogdart @whiteissuperior @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Purefxrm @WontStopNorwooding @chaddyboi66 @LooksOverAll @VenomGT3 @Clark69 @alienmaxxer @papi mew @Alexanderr @slayer69 @Preston @VicMackey @rdsky @6ft4 @FastBananaCEO @lutte @coolguy1 @RecessedPrettyboy @kalefartbomb @Vermilioncore @Ass-ender @Ada Mustang @LMSMaxxer @Afrikancel @MentalCel @Wincel @TeenAscender @tyronelite /SPOILER]

Excellent research as well as a potent black pill.

 

[Deleted member 19615]

Is gymcelling even worth it for someone like me with probably shit fiber shit

Yes of course. An improvement is an improvement.

 

[Yellowskies]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

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@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
View attachment 1718220​

​

---

The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

---

This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

---

The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
View attachment 1718335

Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


View attachment 1718349

Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
View attachment 1718365View attachment 1718418

Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!
View attachment 1718377

Spoiler: Tagging bros, gymcellers, looksmaxxers , in general, etc

[@gamma @alienmaxxer @looksmaxxer234 @Korea @Gargantuan @Prettyboy @Reckless Turtle @StrangerDanger @Biiyo03 @enchanted_elixir @geezcel @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @xefo @Adriana Lima @Kingkellz @ @ArvidGustavsson @Amnesia @Salludon @Armadillo @MakinItHappenReturn @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @fogdart @whiteissuperior @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Purefxrm @WontStopNorwooding @chaddyboi66 @LooksOverAll @VenomGT3 @Clark69 @alienmaxxer @papi mew @Alexanderr @slayer69 @Preston @VicMackey @rdsky @6ft4 @FastBananaCEO @lutte @coolguy1 @RecessedPrettyboy @kalefartbomb @Vermilioncore @Ass-ender @Ada Mustang @LMSMaxxer @Afrikancel @MentalCel @Wincel @TeenAscender @tyronelite /SPOILER]

Most guys have average bodies.. most are endo or ecto.. or a skinny fat mix

Totally.. most dream that they can get ”big”

Not true for 90 %

But everyone can get cut and ”fit” which is ok tbh

 

[Cope]

This really only applies if you run Test only. Something like Deca with a Test base will make getting those fitness model physiques more attainable.

 

[kalefartbomb]

Yes i know, which was already stated above and corrected by me and slayer69


Fasting

Great Diet

Cycling

Appropriate dosages

Short term use (6 months to 2 yrs)

it shouldnt be THAT bad in regards to organ growth and what not

This is pretty much exactly what I did, for 2 years. I ate sensibly, kept dosages under control, my original goal was to maintain a slightly enhanced look for many years. At some point I stopped everything cold turkey because I realised it wasn't worth it. Worrying about sources and side effects gets old after a while. Plus I realised how gay and degenerate that whole subculture is.

After stopping I kept improving my diet through learning new things and I did manage to maintain most of my enhanced physique. I kinda have a physique like this guy now. My enhanced physique was more or less the same but with thicker delts, chest and traps.

View attachment 1718232

I don't regret doing steroids, it was an interesting experience that didn't cost me anything, but I always caution people against it now because it's all temporary and it's pointless. Attractive people (lean tall broad shoulders) don't need roids, people who think roids will looksmax them are invariably sub 5s like curries and manlets. Natty gymcelling is the way to go, and I'd advise unsubbing to fitness youtubers and doing your own thing, having fun with it. That's the secret to sustaining a good physique for a long time. I've done calisthenics, Dorian Yates type high intensity, Arnold splits, and it all produces more or less the same results for natties. These youtubers are grifters feeding on the insecurity and confusion of new lifters.

 

[Deleted member 19371]

The ”science” of muscle fibre types is retarded, most fibres are in between slow, fast, and super fast, everyone should read this article

Renaissance Periodization | Do Muscle Fiber Types Change with Training? An End To The Unfounded “Debate”

By Andrew J. Galpin, Nathan Serrano, & Kara Lazauskas The Biochemistry and Molecular Exercise Physiology Laboratory, Center for Sport Performance, California State University, Fullerton Sports commentators love to describe explosive athletes as “made up of quick-twitch”. And while that’s...

rpstrength.com

it has an example of two twins, one who ran marathons for decades and has 90 plus percent slow twitch while his lazy brother only has 40 percent

 

[gggg3333]

Hello buyos, today your boy AscendingHero back with another blackpill

View attachment 1718240
@WannabeJock

Spoiler: Disclaimer and Prologue

DISCLAIMER :
This thread was not written by me (not entirely at least) but BuddyBuyo on forum.looksmaxxing.com @Kingkellz @Pendejo. I just thought it was a very informative post that more users need to be made aware of. Majority of this thread is his with sprinkles of my own input, mostly looksmaxxing geared.


Original Post: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/most-people-totally-overestimate-their-gymcel-potential.1494/

Now with that out of the way let's get into the post, shall we?
View attachment 1718220​

​

---

The Muscle Fiber Makeup Pill​

We already know that gymcelling cant fix a bad Frame and a short height

But there are users who still post examples of roid and gymmaxxed framecels like that recent Video where frank Yang goes through thailand

Take a look at him
View attachment 1718225

It's a typical look of dry high haemoglobin muscle mass, something your average gymcel wont get even after countless years of natty Training


His muscle insertions are also godlike, a average guy doesnt even nearly have such symmetrical insertions. Not to mention his delt, chest and ab insertions are top tier


He's one out of thousand if not millions who have such insertions

Also his Skin is naturally very tight/firm and adapted to his muscles, the ability to get such a strong core Definition totally depends on your genetics -> (cope imo)

The contour and Tension of his abdominal tendons is WAY ABOVE AVERAGE TIER

---

This is how a gymcelled/roidcelled average guy Looks:
View attachment 1718232

As you can see, no over the top capped delts and arms and Ultra chiseled strong core insertions

---

The Reality:
-Most guys here totally overestimate their gymcel potential​

Most of you guy WILL NEVER look like your Fitness Idols etc. because your muscle insertions are dogshit
View attachment 1718380View attachment 1718381View attachment 1718385View attachment 1718387View attachment 1718416


Also the Consistency of your muscle determine how buff and ripped you will look



Incels usually have high slow twitch low fast twitch Fiber muscles along with a General low muscle Tonus and low haemoglobin in their muscle and lots of glycogen and sarcoplasmic fluid due to lesser dense androgen receptor Density and higher Estrogen receptor density



How ripped you look has not only to do something with your bodyfat percentage

Spoiler: Examples

Alpha Destiny

Alpha Destiny is a prime example of someone with a extreme amount of sarcoplasmic bloated muscle mass with lots of glycogen and water and almost No haemoglobin or myofibrillar muscle density
View attachment 1718251

His bodyfat is quite low, but he still Looks bloated as fuck, even if he would take extreme roids such as tren and winstrol, he would not look any much better because his genetics and hormonal output, simply aren't made to hold a significant amount of useful athletic muscle mass




While here are perfect examples of those with myofribrillar hypertrophied high fast twitch Fiber and high haemoglobin muscle mass
View attachment 1718254
UK Sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey

View attachment 1718259
I dont know his name unfortunately, if someone does please @ me





Brutal Sprinter vs Long Distance runner pill
View attachment 1718268

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

Jogging and long distance running burns your muscles (as your body doesn't want to carry the excess weight), making you skinnyfat. They are also horrible for joints since each workout takes a long time to finish. They doesn't burn a lot of calories either. Stay away from them, period.



On on my note to add, sprinters vs long distance runners need an acute and immense amount of force and power for them to achieve what they do.

Spoiler: A section from [USER=14469]@Prettyboy[/USER]'s physique thread

In contrast to long distance runners who like aforementioned dont need to carry that actual mass.

No hate against long distance runners if you that's your field of endeavor but anyways i digress.

a high fast twitch amount doesnt mean that you're more explosve but it also means that your muscles are more capable of using glycogen and Glucose as fuel which again results in more dense and more ripped Looking muscles, the haemoglobin amount in their muscles is also higher which allows them to contract faster and more dense plus making the muscle more harder and fuller even if they are unflexed


slow twitch fibers again are more prone to store glycogen which makes them more bloated and less dense

These 2 Sprinters have a higher bodyfat than you think (since sprinting isnt About burning much fat anyways) but they look way more harder, dry and ripped because of their muscle Consistency


the sad Thing is that you cannot really much Change to haemoglobin to glycogen Ratio in your muscles or the General fast twitch to slow twitch Ratio



You can also not Change your muscle insertions

These Things are dependend on your genetics and also your prenatal Hormone exposure and the androgenic tendencies of your parents



gymcelling for looksmaxxing is only possible for a small amount of the world population

Spoiler

Whilst there is some truth of it, this doesnt tell the full story and im not of the notion to not looksmaxx or go ahead in something just because you werent genetically/hormonally or whatever the cope is not to do it.

That being said

1. IGF-1 (Peptides Science is a reliable source)

IGF does not only lead to muscle growth, but also the growth of total new muscle cells, the distribution of your IGF receptors determine your muscle belly size and the Insertion shape

Spoiler

IGF could theoretically be possible to totally Change your muscle insertions, for example: Some guys have quite big but still flat shaped delts which dont Project much laterally, IGF could theoretically Change the shape into roundish lateral projecting delts


IGF increases the glycogen storage in the muscle, but much more important: It increases the glycogen Density which results in extreme hard and dense muscles even unflexed


It's also very effective for Burning fat, especially visceral fat

---

MGF Peptide could be effective in growing new stem cells for IGF-1 to work off of

@2d v2 "MGF c-terminal definitely created the muscle base for the IGF to work off of because it makes the actual muscle stem-cells that IGF uses to increase muscle density."

A reddit tutorial on how to incorporate this:



Studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840678/#:~:text=The MGF peptide is then,decrease for differentiation to occur.


The MGF peptide is then responsible for activating quiescent satellite cells to enter the cell cycle and develop into mononucleated myoblasts; MGF then promotes myoblast proliferation. However, MGF also inhibits differentiation; thus, levels of MGF must decrease for differentiation to occur.


2.
Mechano Growth Factor E peptide (MGF-E), derived from an isoform of IGF-1, activates human muscle progenitor cells and induces an increase in their fusion potential at different ages. Mech Ageing Dev.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21354439/

---

Androgens (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/)

View attachment 1718319
As we all know Androgens play a big role in muscle density makeup, fibers, ability to pack on muscle, inducing a lean/dry effect, debloating, etc etc

Androgens are life. Now besides roids like anavar, tren, winstrol, dbol, there is also the natural route.

Myostatin plays a huge role in your ability to pack on muscle, stay lean, etc. Babies with a lack of myostatin tend to come out of the womb looking jacked af:


Animals can also have this rare genetic mutation as well


Androgens in high serum levels in of itself is already very effective at improving sensitivity.


L-carnitine and other L based amino acids are good at increasing sensitivty. So inject it, (oral form has shit bioavailibility) and/or eat raw meat/fish which has a ton of it.

Spoiler: L-carnitine source

For carnitine transdermal applicant (cheap af) via dmso , source Purple Panda Labs or inject sources like ..... plenty of reputable l-carnitine injection sources out there, will check my notes on a good one and let y'all know in the comments.

George Hackimschmidt (natural bodybuilder) who ate raw,


Raw meat, raw dairy, honey, (obv eating balanced) is life
View attachment 1718332

Semen retention as well as full body sun exposure are also potent ways to improve androgen receptor density and sensitivty. Topical D3/k3 or even androgens like dht as well.

Get naked sunbathing boys


Let them have some fun (did i mention eating testicles is another good test increase dont do it for more than 3 days in a row hence inhibiting ur own production, raw oysters is another @WTFCGod
View attachment 1718400


In fact, studies on the effects of light on the testes go way back to 1939, when researchers exposed various parts of men's bodies to UV light. They found that men's testosterone levels went up by 120%+ when the participants' chests were exposed to UV light, and they went up by 200% with UV exposure to the genital area.

I'd highly recommend reading Andreas Moritz's Heal Yourself with Sunlight book


(Boston university of research and Medicine)

Upon sunlight exposure on some testosteorne shot up a whopping 400%+ .

Red Light therapy is another good one to add. Cholesterol maxxing (raw dairy , meat, eggs) + sun =insane testosterone output.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/#:~:text=In fact, studies on the,exposure to the genital area.


Sarms route: The Sarm Only the "SARM" YK-11 is also a potent myostatin inhibitor if you choose to go down the exogenous route

Bonus (superiority of red meat and beef liver ) Nutritional index
View attachment 1718335

Creatine was found to be a potent myostatin inhibitor. So again get your meat/fish eaten raw (alot of other amino acids like it) get wasted during the cooking process and/or just supplement it.




https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.




Creatine also raises IGF-1.


Source: https://ast-ss.com/creatine-monohydrate-new-effects-increase-muscle-growth/#:~:text=Important Creatine Research&text=Myostatin is a catabolic regulator,to build more muscle faster.



Be ware of the bloating though if it happens though. Food sources always mog


Red meat, Salmon, Herring, Mutton, Pork/Sausage, Chicke and other white meat, Venison (Deer meat), Cod, Tuna, are excellent sources of creatine and other essential amino acids and proteins.


View attachment 1718349

Spoiler: Gene Editing

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mstn/




"The MSTN gene provides instructions for making a protein called myostatin. This protein is part of the transforming growth factor beta (TGFβ) superfamily, which is a group of proteins that help control the growth and development of tissues throughout the body."



Gene editing via a crispr kit (available on the market, so are other genes, i would recommend testing on other things first) and inhibiting this gene via epigenetic editing also (requires extreme levels of knowledge and very new as of now i dont recommend) would be potent ways to inhibit this

I am not responsible nor reliable if you engage in this, get caught, something goes wrong, etc. This is just for informational purposes and do as u like with this information



I wont say much else on the topic for now @enchanted_elixir .......... I cant have everyone becoming a terachad god
View attachment 1718365View attachment 1718418

Be careful to stay within the law, i wish you the best if any of you engage/research this powerful contemporary technology.


Blessings and godspeed to pubertycels to view and act on any of the methods discussed itt. Truly

Thanks for Reading and Happy Looksmaxxing Buyos!
View attachment 1718377

Spoiler: Tagging bros, gymcellers, looksmaxxers , in general, etc

[@gamma @alienmaxxer @looksmaxxer234 @Korea @Gargantuan @Prettyboy @Reckless Turtle @StrangerDanger @Biiyo03 @enchanted_elixir @geezcel @forevergymcelling @ForeverRecession @xefo @Adriana Lima @Kingkellz @ @ArvidGustavsson @Amnesia @Salludon @Armadillo @MakinItHappenReturn @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @fogdart @whiteissuperior @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Purefxrm @WontStopNorwooding @chaddyboi66 @LooksOverAll @VenomGT3 @Clark69 @alienmaxxer @papi mew @Alexanderr @slayer69 @Preston @VicMackey @rdsky @6ft4 @FastBananaCEO @lutte @coolguy1 @RecessedPrettyboy @kalefartbomb @Vermilioncore @Ass-ender @Ada Mustang @LMSMaxxer @Afrikancel @MentalCel @Wincel @TeenAscender @tyronelite /SPOILER]

fantastic thread!

 

[Mongrelcel]

big muscles are intimidating rather than attractive,

intimidating is good

 

[AscendingHero]

A lot of bro science tbh and you could summarize with one line: Most of us won’t ever look like those fitness idols cause we’re not willing to take the huge amounts of drugs they take. People who are not in the know , underestimate how much shit these guys really take and for how long. Look at Internet forums where guys take 500mgs of test for a first cycle.. they still look natty because it takes years of blasting and cruising ( not only cycling) to look like those fitness idols. Stop with this bullshit bro science about incel genetics, etc

Alot of bro science like what? lmao i backed everything I said up with studies jfl

And I clearly said gymcelling is worth it, as u can see i took inspiration from another thread

You clearly didnt read the spoilers. NEXT!

You don't need to look like a fitness model to mog 90% of normies, since most don't even lift. You don't even need to do roids for that. Being fit is a huge aesthetic boost for most men, even if they don't have fitness model genetics, so gymmaxxing is definitely something people should still do. It's healthy, improves your looks, and it gets you out of the house.

Obviously not

Being lean with a solid amount of lean muscle tissue is top notch.

 

[AscendingHero]

Uhh no one thinks they Will Look like that. Gymmaxxing is just something you can improve well into your 50s. Squatting 5 plates non bloatmaxxed must Be awesome

Stop missing the point of the thread and get off your lazy asses, which the solutions were provided in the sources.

The ”science” of muscle fibre types is retarded, most fibres are in between slow, fast, and super fast, everyone should read this article

Renaissance Periodization | Do Muscle Fiber Types Change with Training? An End To The Unfounded “Debate”

By Andrew J. Galpin, Nathan Serrano, & Kara Lazauskas The Biochemistry and Molecular Exercise Physiology Laboratory, Center for Sport Performance, California State University, Fullerton Sports commentators love to describe explosive athletes as “made up of quick-twitch”. And while that’s...

rpstrength.com

it has an example of two twins, one who ran marathons for decades and has 90 plus percent slow twitch while his lazy brother only has 40 percent

Just ignore what i wrote theory

 

[TeenAscender]

Ethan Nguyen mogs hard aesthetic wise but he’s like 5’10 meaning that his insane dorito shape while still like top 1 percentile frame wise means that his waist is fuckin tiny irl, and he doesn’t look as big iverall irl.

personally I’d prefer to have a below average waist but not a super small bottom 1% width waist

Tbh In terms of a 100% Asian physique mogger I’d go with IFBB Pro Thanos, he has optimal lat insertions and width and complete fullness all around + his waist is small but his bones aren’t giga small like Ethan Nguyen + at 6’2 220 shredded he’s a big presence irl and has legitimately wide shoulders

 

[Deleted member 14160]

the quality of formatting and presentation in your posts cannot be overstated btw, so easy to read but also entertaining

keep tagging me

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Good thread

 

[Tylermax]

Jordan Barrett face > 100 roided Jeff seids