To those taking aromatase inhibitors to try to get taller

[Slyfex8]

There's also a good chance he'll get sold hcg instead of hgh which will cause his estrogen levels to go through the roof and then grow a pair of tits and fuse his growth plates.

Shady sellers of hgh sometimes sell you hcg instead because it will cause bloat like hgh so people think they got the real stuff.

What do you think of purplepandalabs about this?

 

[x30001]

16.5yo, 5feet 5inches.

Full of estrogen probably because pubertal gynecomastia, and visibly fat storage in the thighs.

GH defficient probably because of fat accumulation in the calves and knees

Obviously on the rest of the body I'm lean af.

Father height: 5feet 10inches
Mother height 5feet 2 inches

Not surprised your lean. You definitely didn't maximise your chances of growing to your genetic limit during puberty. I was overweight during puberty. Freakofnature was like 120kg+ and grew to 6'7. GH is ONE growth factor. Eating food activates pretty much every growth factor pathway in your body. Foodmaxing/fatmaxing is probably the most legit routine for heightmaxing during puberty. Keep AKT activated, keep AMPK inactive. Promote anabolism, avoid catabolism.

 

[jefferson]

What do you think of purplepandalabs about this?

Can't speak to their hgh, I've never tried it.

 

[x30001]

There's also a good chance he'll get sold hcg instead of hgh which will cause his estrogen levels to go through the roof and then grow a pair of tits and fuse his growth plates.

Shady sellers of hgh sometimes sell you hcg instead because it will cause bloat like hgh so people think they got the real stuff.

Damn... megadosing HCG sounds like the ultimate nightmare.

 

[AspiringChad]

Not surprised your lean. You definitely didn't maximise your chances of growing to your genetic limit during puberty. I was overweight during puberty. Freakofnature was like 120kg+ and grew to 6'7. GH is ONE growth factor. Eating food activates pretty much every growth factor pathway in your body. Foodmaxing/fatmaxing is probably the most legit routine for heightmaxing during puberty. Keep AKT activated, keep AMPK inactive. Promote anabolism, avoid catabolism.

Just eat food during puberty theory?

 

[Slyfex8]

I would use 6 uis of pharmacy grade hgh per day, nothing else. But I wasn't rich nor blackpilled at 15-18. And was tall anyways.

About precisely 6uis, this is because you think that more is dangerous ? Or your limit is financial ?

Because from what I understand here injecting 20IU per day would be too much?

 

[x30001]

Just eat food during puberty theory?

There's no "just" anything. Promoting every growth factor is better than elevating 1 growth factor theory.

 

[jefferson]

About precisely 6uis, this is because you think that more is dangerous ? Or your limit is financial ?

Because from what I understand here injecting 20IU per day would be too much?

that was in an imaginary senario where I was rich at 15-18. I would not go over 6 due to side effects even if I could afford to do 20. 6 ius of real hgh would be very significant anyways. I probably would have gotten extra height off it seeing as how I kept growing until now and I'm 20.

 

[Maximus]

Changing your height is a bullshit facade and it's making people go insane. People lose their minds when they try to control a perceived "problem" that can't actually be controlled. I was 6'1 at 16 and am 6'2 at 21. You can't use drugs to override your genes. You can try all the experimental stuff but be aware that the side-effects are real and abundant and the actual chance of growing half a foot due to some increased levels of growth hormone is next to 0. Stop expecting so much and stop taking crazy risks and take some time to understand how you can't hack your genetic potential for height growth with some silly peptides. Sure, go ahead, max out and do whatever, but don't become dejected when you don't have the experience you expect.

It’s incredibly easy for you to talk about heightmaxxing in the somewhat realistic nature you do because it’s something you don’t have to worry about. You’re 6’2. Try typing all that out from the perspective of someone that’s short. You wouldn’t be able to that easily.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re giving out real redpills here, and right now in terms of heightmaxxing, it’s a temporary comforting lie vs an unforgiving truth. But I feel that people that will heightmax need to at least try it, so they can reach the end goal of the unforgiving truth. And I think that’s probably what happened with EC. I’m still gonna try it for maybe 2-3 months just to get the hope out of my system. I’ll have to come to terms with it eventually.

 

[Deleted member 147]

I took Pharma Letrozole for 21 days at 2.5mg/day and my joints hurt, but I didn't feel in a bad mood. I don't know maybe cause I dealt with a lot of stress in my life so I'm used to it.

 

[itsOVER]

It’s incredibly easy for you to talk about heightmaxxing in the somewhat realistic nature you do because it’s something you don’t have to worry about. You’re 6’2. Try typing all that out from the perspective of someone that’s short. You wouldn’t be able to that easily.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re giving out real redpills here, and right now in terms of heightmaxxing, it’s a temporary comforting lie vs an unforgiving truth. But I feel that people that will heightmax need to at least try it, so they can reach the end goal of the unforgiving truth. And I think that’s probably what happened with EC. I’m still gonna try it for maybe 2-3 months just to get the hope out of my system. I’ll have to come to terms with it eventually.

OK, I'm short, and I think there's far too much importance given to height on this forum, with people trying all kinda of crazy experimental shit (or more likely, claiming to and doing nothing) just to grind out 0.5 extra cm. It's just not THAT important.

Though now you'll turn around and say I'm 'coping', so basically you get to have your cake and eat it. Rather like how gymcels call those who hate gymcelling either lazy or bitter (depending on whether they gymcelled in the past or not), you'll say those who are tall type from a position of priveledge while those who are short type from a position of cope. In other words, only those who believe exactly what you believe can be 'right'.

 

[Deleted member 685]

OK, I'm short, and I think there's far too much importance given to height on this forum, with people trying all kinda of crazy experimental shit (or more likely, claiming to and doing nothing) just to grind out 0.5 extra cm. It's just not THAT important.

Though now you'll turn around and say I'm 'coping', so basically you get to have your cake and eat it. Rather like how gymcels call those who hate gymcelling either lazy or bitter (depending on whether they gymcelled in the past or not), you'll say those who are tall type from a position of priveledge while those who are short type from a position of cope. In other words, only those who believe exactly what you believe can be 'right'.

Manlet cope

 

[Soulsmaxx]

Manlet cope

Next you're gonna get doxxed

 

[Maximus]

OK, I'm short, and I think there's far too much importance given to height on this forum, with people trying all kinda of crazy experimental shit (or more likely, claiming to and doing nothing) just to grind out 0.5 extra cm. It's just not THAT important.

Though now you'll turn around and say I'm 'coping', so basically you get to have your cake and eat it. Rather like how gymcels call those who hate gymcelling either lazy or bitter (depending on whether they gymcelled in the past or not), you'll say those who are tall type from a position of priveledge while those who are short type from a position of cope. In other words, only those who believe exactly what you believe can be 'right'.

That’s not what I said at all. I actually agreed with him, saying that heightmaxing will not most likely not work, and that it’s cope. My point was that he expects everyone heightmaxing to swallow that redpill easily, while for him it’s easy to swallow cause he’s 6’2.

 

[itsOVER]

That’s not what I said at all. I actually agreed with him, saying that heightmaxing will not most likely not work, and that it’s cope. My point was that he expects everyone heightmaxing to swallow that redpill easily, while for him it’s easy to swallow cause he’s 6’2.

Tbqh there's a lot of 'pills' that one needs to swallow as you get older. When you're 12 years old, you think you can do anything you want.

In the end you have to swallow the 'pills' that you'll never be famous, never get the hot cheerleader, never be a Chad, never be a premier league footballer, will likely end up in an average type job living in an average house with an average car doing mundane shit, will always have issues with your family. And yes, that you'll never be 6 foot fucking four. It's part of growing up.

That's why I laugh at the kiddies on here that sperg at me and give it large about 'when I looksmax, I'll be slaying so hard and mog you so much' or 'I could get loads of pussy if I wanted to' etc. Come back when you actually have any results, boyos.

Injecting a bunch of unproven experimental jew drugs into your system just to try grind out a centimetre more isn't sane.

 

[x30001]

It’s incredibly easy for you to talk about heightmaxxing in the somewhat realistic nature you do because it’s something you don’t have to worry about. You’re 6’2. Try typing all that out from the perspective of someone that’s short. You wouldn’t be able to that easily.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re giving out real redpills here, and right now in terms of heightmaxxing, it’s a temporary comforting lie vs an unforgiving truth. But I feel that people that will heightmax need to at least try it, so they can reach the end goal of the unforgiving truth. And I think that’s probably what happened with EC. I’m still gonna try it for maybe 2-3 months just to get the hope out of my system. I’ll have to come to terms with it eventually.

Yeah, try it. I'm not trying to come off as a jerk, I know I'd be in the same frenzy as others if I was short. But feeling emotional and enraged that you're not a certain height doesn't change the nature of biology and reality. I'm just trying to provide perspective and objective rationale that'll help benefit anyone looking to urgently maximize their height. I need people to understand that all this is unorthodox and we don't need people losing the plot because of heightmaxing. I hope EC came to his senses and went off-the-grid to pursue real endeavors. Everyone who devotes their time to this stuff are really fucking up their mental health and can't think straight and would inject panceronium bromide into their veins if someone online told them it's a "heightmaxing method". People just need to be careful, and I understand it's easy for me to say all this but I also realise how it's damn near impossible for anyone to think straight if they're willing to just find anything to make them grow taller. There's so many people who keep asking the same things about "heightmaxing" and want to be told what they want to hear rather than the reality, and everyone will just end up depressed and suicidal after stressing and devoting so much time to a practice that's so avant-garde that is pretty much destined to fuck everyone up one way or another. If people can't accept some realities it'll drive them to insanity and beyond.

 

[CarlSagan96]

I don't think alot of you fully understand the risks and implications of doing this. I will enlighten you as someone who has dealt with crashed and low estrogen many many times.

The longest my estrogen has been low at a time was about 2 weeks straight. This is what happened to me during that time:

-anxiety attacks everytime I try to sleep
-obsessive thoughts about my then gf cheating
-cannot get proper erection without alot of viagra, barely even feel orgasms.
-depression
-brain fog
-lethargy, loss of strength. Could barely complete an easy workout, wanted to leave every second I was in the gym.
-dehydration no matter how much water I drank
-painfully sore joints (if you stay like this for an extended period of time you will cause permanent damage to your joints)
-rapidly losing hair

That was for only 2 weeks guys. If you're using it to try and gain height you'll be on it for at least a year. I think most people would probably end up committing suicide after a few months of that. (Rip @Extra Chromosome, pbuh)

Now you can make a more informed decision.

How do you know that using any AI will lead to effects like these though? I haven’t read about most of these things on AI-related threads on breast cancer forums, which makes me think that not all AI’s are this harmful. Also, I’ve been using 10mg of melatonin a night for the past several weeks as an AI (which has the same purpose as any other AI such as aromasin) and haven’t noticed any of these effects, which makes me think that the estrogen inhibiting function isn’t the primary cause of the side effects.

 

[x30001]

How do you know that using any AI will lead to effects like these though? I haven’t read about most of these things on AI-related threads on breast cancer forums, which makes me think that not all AI’s are this harmful. Also, I’ve been using 10mg of melatonin a night for the past several weeks as an AI (which has the same purpose as any other AI such as aromasin) and haven’t noticed any of these effects, which makes me think that the estrogen inhibiting function isn’t the primary cause of the side effects.

Thought melatonin just prevents estrogen related proliferation of the MCF7 cells but I don't think it does much with aromatase, maybe it decreases aromatase activity slightly but it's definitely not an aromatase inhibitor to any great extent. It's not comparable in anyway to arimidex/aromasin/letrozole. It probably has a similar effect on aromatase as indole-3-carbonol.

 

[Alexanderr]

AI on it’s own won’t do shit. You need HGH together with it. I have read multiple studies proving this.
Here is one example

Letrozole Monotherapy in Pre- and Early-Pubertal Boys Does Not Increase Adult Height

Background: Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) have been used in boys with idiopathic short stature (ISS) to promote growth despite the lack of actual data regarding treatment effect on adult height. In this study, we characterized adult heights and long-term ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Most people here take an AI to keep their growth plates open for a longer period of time.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

Most people here take an AI to keep their growth plates open for a longer period of time.

It’s not doing anything. Read some studies

 

[fobos]

How do you know that using any AI will lead to effects like these though? I haven’t read about most of these things on AI-related threads on breast cancer forums, which makes me think that not all AI’s are this harmful. Also, I’ve been using 10mg of melatonin a night for the past several weeks as an AI (which has the same purpose as any other AI such as aromasin) and haven’t noticed any of these effects, which makes me think that the estrogen inhibiting function isn’t the primary cause of the side effects.

jfl do you read theard or just first post. It's not about AI it's about low E.

 

[RAITEIII]

Me planning to go through this doesn't inhenrently implicate I have unrealistic expectations. I understand there's a genetic limitation, said one could be a waste of time; or either something I may consider significant.

Although we have the same goal, we all range among multiple stages of possibilities and it does define the outcome we will have. It's why I personally wouldn't pigeonhole each individual and their case the exact same way.
The same can be applied to basically any other whatevermaxxing user: they can have done as much surgery as they want, but there's a genetic limitation as to how far they, or each one of us can go improving our looks. Different variables are playing a roll in each one of us. Yet we consider that "something" we can do to be significant enough to at least try.

I don't know anyone's real motive force to follow this, it's madness, I am madness xD. I don't know how much they are willing to risk, what they expect from it, what they think will change afterwards, their posibilities. It's up to their own judgement, I can't encourage anyone.

Most likely that extra height is not inevitably necesserary to have a fullfilling life, don't hold onto those inches as if it was, avoid hurting yourself. Something's telling me we can have an equal, probably higher amount of life improvement through actively focusing and advancing in other areas where we can have significant positive results.

@Extra Chromosome I didn't know about all these things people have been saying lol. I want to say that you are madly smart and cool so that already halos you

 

[jefferson]

How do you know that using any AI will lead to effects like these though? I haven’t read about most of these things on AI-related threads on breast cancer forums, which makes me think that not all AI’s are this harmful. Also, I’ve been using 10mg of melatonin a night for the past several weeks as an AI (which has the same purpose as any other AI such as aromasin) and haven’t noticed any of these effects, which makes me think that the estrogen inhibiting function isn’t the primary cause of the side effects.

Women get even worse side effects. It's low estrogen not the ai which causes these side effects

 

[middayshowers]

MK677 and CJC NO DAC! take 20000 injections today and you will grow 9 inches in one day. Yes the rewards are there......

Really, no there not. People believe in heightmaxing because they are panicked beyond reason and don't like to accept the fact that their adult height is not in their control. And they also feel as if they HAVE TO BE over 6' to live any sort of decent life which is just some horrible blackpill nonsense that gets you depressed. Heightmaxing shouldn't even be a looksmax. There's no method. It's all madness. And everyone ends up sad at the end. Feel bad for EC and hope he is still alive and just stopped letting "heightmaxing" consume his entire mind all day long which made him super depressed.

This is some truthpill right here. Most likely you aren’t able to change shit unless you’re youngcel and even then a lot of this is very dubious

 

[The Dude Abides]

Estrogen has nothing to do with why you aren't tall and weren't tall growing up.

bro, hes trying to reduce e so his plates dont close. He has already said he has signs of low gh. He knows his estrogen isnt the problem. I dont want kids to fuck themselves up either but saying its his genetics when he already said his gh isnt where its supposed to be is fucking annoying.

 

[AyWiz]

He was taking a high dose of letrozole, getting more depressed, his dick stopped working, then one day he disappeared. It's just speculation what actually happened to him.

yo really ? Fuck rip extra

 

[CarlSagan96]

Women get even worse side effects. It's low estrogen not the ai which causes these side effects

Well if that's the case then the sides can't be as bad as you made them seem from your original post. Also they've put 11-13 year olds on Letrozole and the sides must have been reasonable enough for them to continue the experiment or whatever

Thought melatonin just prevents estrogen related proliferation of the MCF7 cells but I don't think it does much with aromatase, maybe it decreases aromatase activity slightly but it's definitely not an aromatase inhibitor to any great extent. It's not comparable in anyway to arimidex/aromasin/letrozole. It probably has a similar effect on aromatase as indole-3-carbonol.

I don't know about the specifics of how this works to be honest. However I contacted Wincel and he said that melatonin can work as an AI, and I'm pretty sure I've read about melatonin as an aromatase inhibitor when I searched for that on Google scholar. If you know more about this let me know though as it seems you researchmog me

 

[Nosecel9000]

I don't think alot of you fully understand the risks and implications of doing this. I will enlighten you as someone who has dealt with crashed and low estrogen many many times.

The longest my estrogen has been low at a time was about 2 weeks straight. This is what happened to me during that time:

-anxiety attacks everytime I try to sleep
-obsessive thoughts about my then gf cheating
-cannot get proper erection without alot of viagra, barely even feel orgasms.
-depression
-brain fog
-lethargy, loss of strength. Could barely complete an easy workout, wanted to leave every second I was in the gym.
-dehydration no matter how much water I drank
-painfully sore joints (if you stay like this for an extended period of time you will cause permanent damage to your joints)
-rapidly losing hair

That was for only 2 weeks guys. If you're using it to try and gain height you'll be on it for at least a year. I think most people would probably end up committing suicide after a few months of that. (Rip @Extra Chromosome, pbuh)

Now you can make a more informed decision.

This . There are way too few studies. And too many conflicting studies. Also its used for breast cancer like wtf?

Legit, you need estrogen even as a man. Just not too much

So AIs are bullshit autistic incel Cope ??

 

[litaz]

Also I forgot to mention, having crashed estrogen for an extended period of time is terrible for your health. Your cholesterol will be trashed and you'll be at risk of heart disease.

We’re you able to grow back the hair I’ve been taking aromasin for 4-5 months and got off it due to the hair effects hopefully it ain’t permanent

 

[Sondern]

I don't think alot of you fully understand the risks and implications of doing this. I will enlighten you as someone who has dealt with crashed and low estrogen many many times.

The longest my estrogen has been low at a time was about 2 weeks straight. This is what happened to me during that time:

-anxiety attacks everytime I try to sleep
-obsessive thoughts about my then gf cheating
-cannot get proper erection without alot of viagra, barely even feel orgasms.
-depression
-brain fog
-lethargy, loss of strength. Could barely complete an easy workout, wanted to leave every second I was in the gym.
-dehydration no matter how much water I drank
-painfully sore joints (if you stay like this for an extended period of time you will cause permanent damage to your joints)
-rapidly losing hair

That was for only 2 weeks guys. If you're using it to try and gain height you'll be on it for at least a year. I think most people would probably end up committing suicide after a few months of that. (Rip @Extra Chromosome, pbuh)

Now you can make a more informed decision.

did extra chromosome die? also ive been taking aromasin for 1 moth 6.25 mg, should I stop?