Why you should NEVER eat VEGETABLES

[asdvek]

Never NEVER eat VEGETABLES or any PLANTS.

You're a fucking retard if you do.

I see people saying "muhh no veggie diet is carnivore cope, get your veggies in dont try to be cool"

Nobody is NOT eating vegetables to be cool or anything?

Vegetables have zero micronutrients, BARELY if anything, which, the fiber, something that's indigestible, binds to, so our body can not digest it at all.

You're not a rabbit or anything. A rabbit can fucking eat a vegetable and get benefits from it because a rabbits body has the required digestive enzymes to digest vegetables properly,

But humans do not have that.

On top of that vegetables have oxalates which bind to minerals like calcium and will cause dysfunctions in the thyroid.

They are very inflammatory and have GOITROGENS and what does a GOITROGEN do?

They lower the amount of thyroid hormones in your body and will cause Goatr.

Broccoli has high amounts of goitrogens, and it's regarded as a health food, guess by who, the same zionists that fucking eat babies.

Never eat any vegetables. There is a reason why I don't consume any vegetables. It's not some retarded tiktok mainstream diet or anything. Vegetables are not human food. They will ruin your fucking body.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000000]

so what do you eat?

 

[soggra]

so what do you eat?

human food nigga

 

[notesofrme]

oh my God, this guy is genuinely on crack

 

[Zeekie]

so what do you eat?

Obviously the best food ever invented, fermented all-natural animal meat like our ancestors used to consume

Doesn't it look delectable?! I thank Goatis for teaching me the way to optimal human health

 

[Zeekie]

oh my God, this guy is genuinely on crack

The dangers of the bp, once you spend enough time over here you start to believe some crazy shit bro

 

[thereallegend]

I remember drinking some green juice that had broccoli, kali, spinach, alfalfa in it. It literally felt like my thyroid was dying. It was terrible.

 

[zaebalsya]

I remember drinking some green juice that had broccoli, kali, spinach, alfalfa in it. It literally felt like my thyroid was dying. It was terrible.

aint Aajonus said green vegetable juices are good? especially for detox

 

[addalinnerlight]

I remember drinking some green juice that had broccoli, kali, spinach, alfalfa in it. It literally felt like my thyroid was dying. It was terrible.

Make it again + add PUFAS it ascends ur t3

 

[Never Get Up]

Humans are carnivores.

What a shocker that plants are bad.

 

[notesofrme]

Humans are carnivores.

What a shocker that plants are bad.

stfu before I send someone to ur house

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

The dangers of the bp, once you spend enough time over here you start to believe some crazy shit bro

Lol i love how you can not debunk it

 

[Zeekie]

Lol i love how you can not debunk it

Yeah, cuz I realized people are way too stupid nowadays, and you can't fix them all. Also note that I'm not the one making an outrageous statement, it is not my responsibility to bring some validity to what I say, it's the other way around.

Unless you want to actually start citing scientific research let's stick to speaking with logic and common knowledge... vegetables offer a wide array of micronutrients and anti-oxidants that you cannot get from beef and fruits a lot, I mean yeah you can, but getting them in the correct quantities to meet your RDI is virtually impossible. I'm unsure what degree of retardness you have, I'm hoping you're more of an "animal-based/fruits and animal products" guy, which is less retarded than the alternative.

The main issues with these type of diets revolve around vitamin E and K1, although I'm sure majority of you struggle with a lot more micronutrients, you just don't know that because you don't track them, but E and K1 are the vitamins I see people with these types of diets usually struggle with.

Aside from making it easier to meet your nutritional requirements (specially useful when in a caloric deficit or when you're not trying to go fucking broke), vegetables also offer plenty of beneficial compounds for our health.

"BUT ANTI-NUTRIENTS!!" hey bozo, I'm not suggested you eat vegetables raw, ideally you would boil, steam, sauté them in fat, ferment or soak them to reduce anti-nutrient content and if you do that, they're completely safe to eat. But even if you don't... nobody struggles with anti-nutrients lol, I mean a small percentage of the population does have digestive issues sometimes, but that's again, a small percentage and to those people I saw once again, just fucking cook them.

 

[asdvek]

Yeah, cuz I realized people are way too stupid nowadays, and you can't fix them all. Also note that I'm not the one making an outrageous statement, it is not my responsibility to bring some validity to what I say, it's the other way around.

Unless you want to actually start citing scientific research let's stick to speaking with logic and common knowledge... vegetables offer a wide array of micronutrients and anti-oxidants that you cannot get from beef and fruits a lot, I mean yeah you can, but getting them in the correct quantities to meet your RDI is virtually impossible. I'm unsure what degree of retardness you have, I'm hoping you're more of an "animal-based/fruits and animal products" guy, which is less retarded than the alternative.

The main issues with these type of diets revolve around vitamin E and K1, although I'm sure majority of you struggle with a lot more micronutrients, you just don't know that because you don't track them, but E and K1 are the vitamins I see people with these types of diets usually struggle with.

Aside from making it easier to meet your nutritional requirements (specially useful when in a caloric deficit or when you're not trying to go fucking broke), vegetables also offer plenty of beneficial compounds for our health.

"BUT ANTI-NUTRIENTS!!" hey bozo, I'm not suggested you eat vegetables raw, ideally you would boil, steam, sauté them in fat, ferment or soak them to reduce anti-nutrient content and if you do that, they're completely safe to eat. But even if you don't... nobody struggles with anti-nutrients lol, I mean a small percentage of the population does have digestive issues sometimes, but that's again, a small percentage and to those people I saw once again, just fucking cook them.

oxalates

 

[Zeekie]

oxalates

Boiling

 

[asdvek]

Boiling

which then ruins the purpose as nutrients and anti-oxidants are lost

 

[Zeekie]

which then ruins the purpose as nutrients and anti-oxidants are lost

Not every nutrient or anti-oxidant is water-soluble (majority aren't actually), and even then the reduction is not relevant enough to worry about

 

[asdvek]

Not every nutrient or anti-oxidant is water-soluble (majority aren't actually), and even then the reduction is not relevant enough to worry about

You do realise they fucking eat babies and their blood right? They want you to eat vegetables, so they eat children........

 

[Zeekie]

You do realise they fucking eat babies and their blood right? They want you to eat vegetables, so they eat children........

You know, at this point, I wouldn't even be surprised if this wasn't bullshit and you were trying to make a genuine argument out of this. The world is a weird place man, jus eat what you want I guess, I don't really care atp

 

[Deleted member 155121]

No reason to debate if you actually know you are right

 

[Never Get Up]

Yeah, cuz I realized people are way too stupid nowadays, and you can't fix them all. Also note that I'm not the one making an outrageous statement, it is not my responsibility to bring some validity to what I say, it's the other way around.

Unless you want to actually start citing scientific research let's stick to speaking with logic and common knowledge... vegetables offer a wide array of micronutrients and anti-oxidants that you cannot get from beef and fruits a lot, I mean yeah you can, but getting them in the correct quantities to meet your RDI is virtually impossible. I'm unsure what degree of retardness you have, I'm hoping you're more of an "animal-based/fruits and animal products" guy, which is less retarded than the alternative.

The main issues with these type of diets revolve around vitamin E and K1, although I'm sure majority of you struggle with a lot more micronutrients, you just don't know that because you don't track them, but E and K1 are the vitamins I see people with these types of diets usually struggle with.

Aside from making it easier to meet your nutritional requirements (specially useful when in a caloric deficit or when you're not trying to go fucking broke), vegetables also offer plenty of beneficial compounds for our health.

"BUT ANTI-NUTRIENTS!!" hey bozo, I'm not suggested you eat vegetables raw, ideally you would boil, steam, sauté them in fat, ferment or soak them to reduce anti-nutrient content and if you do that, they're completely safe to eat. But even if you don't... nobody struggles with anti-nutrients lol, I mean a small percentage of the population does have digestive issues sometimes, but that's again, a small percentage and to those people I saw once again, just fucking cook them.

You have a low IQ.

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Yeah, cuz I realized people are way too stupid nowadays, and you can't fix them all. Also note that I'm not the one making an outrageous statement, it is not my responsibility to bring some validity to what I say, it's the other way around.

Unless you want to actually start citing scientific research let's stick to speaking with logic and common knowledge... vegetables offer a wide array of micronutrients and anti-oxidants that you cannot get from beef and fruits a lot, I mean yeah you can, but getting them in the correct quantities to meet your RDI is virtually impossible. I'm unsure what degree of retardness you have, I'm hoping you're more of an "animal-based/fruits and animal products" guy, which is less retarded than the alternative.

The main issues with these type of diets revolve around vitamin E and K1, although I'm sure majority of you struggle with a lot more micronutrients, you just don't know that because you don't track them, but E and K1 are the vitamins I see people with these types of diets usually struggle with.

Aside from making it easier to meet your nutritional requirements (specially useful when in a caloric deficit or when you're not trying to go fucking broke), vegetables also offer plenty of beneficial compounds for our health.

"BUT ANTI-NUTRIENTS!!" hey bozo, I'm not suggested you eat vegetables raw, ideally you would boil, steam, sauté them in fat, ferment or soak them to reduce anti-nutrient content and if you do that, they're completely safe to eat. But even if you don't... nobody struggles with anti-nutrients lol, I mean a small percentage of the population does have digestive issues sometimes, but that's again, a small percentage and to those people I saw once again, just fucking cook them.

Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based, also the concept of anti oxidants js stupid since if you are healthy in the first place you dont have anything toxic in your body and anti oxidants can kill bacteria which are essential for your body, lol you do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right, plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients including vitamin a,k1,d3, creatine, and much more, also no human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree , there is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy from animal foods not pills or anything, no they don't we do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose in it we are not made to consume them what are you saying, anti nutrients are not the main reason why you should not consume them but if you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much

 

[asdvek]

Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based, also the concept of anti oxidants js stupid since if you are healthy in the first place you dont have anything toxic in your body and anti oxidants can kill bacteria which are essential for your body, lol you do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right, plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients including vitamin a,k1,d3, creatine, and much more, also no human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree , there is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy from animal foods not pills or anything, no they don't we do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose in it we are not made to consume them what are you saying, anti nutrients are not the main reason why you should not consume them but if you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much

vegetables having anti-oxidants is a meme
it's not true
it has oxidants, not anti-oxidants.

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Yes goyim. Fruits and vegetables are goyd 4 u.

Dr. Michael Greger said so!

vegetables having anti-oxidants is a meme
it's not true
it has oxidants, not anti-oxidants.

Hmm probably

 

[Zeekie]

Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based, also the concept of anti oxidants js stupid since if you are healthy in the first place you dont have anything toxic in your body and anti oxidants can kill bacteria which are essential for your body, lol you do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right, plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients including vitamin a,k1,d3, creatine, and much more, also no human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree , there is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy from animal foods not pills or anything, no they don't we do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose in it we are not made to consume them what are you saying, anti nutrients are not the main reason why you should not consume them but if you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much

Let's go over some things:
"Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based" I never said you can't get every micronutrient from an animal-based diet, I said it is complicated to get them in the right quantities, as you should know "getting vitamin D" and "getting 600 IUs of vitamin D" isn't the same. Technically speaking, if you eat 1 egg and an orange you're getting every single micronutrient, but that doesn't mean you're getting them in the right quantities.

"The concept of anti oxidants js stupid"

"You do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right" Liver has vitamin K2, not K1, and it doesn't have "plenty of vitamin E", here's the nutritional content of 100g of beef liver:

0.5mg of vitamin E isn't exactly "plenty".

"Plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients" News flash, plants lack things animal tissues have, and vice versa Also, plants don't lack K1, they lack K2. The idea of a balanced diet is eating both animal and plant products so you aren't lacking in a specific thing.

"No human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree" No human in nature cares about modern medicine, but that doesn't really mean anything.

"There is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy" I never said anything relating to this but now that you mentioned… That's factually wrong. If you eat high doses of liver for a long enough time, you're going to run into hypervitaminosis A and into copper toxicity.

"We do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose" So? It's indigestible fiber, true. What's the bottom line there?

"If you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much" let me be pedantic for a second, but you can't "kill" nutrients, they're not living things. That aside, I don't think you understand how cooking affects the nutritional content of food, yes some nutrients are damaged in the process, but that's very much irrelevant, it's not like if you boil some spinach all of its vitamin E, beta-carotene or calcium is going to disintegrate into oblivion and it will have zero nutritional value. "Reduced nutritional content" isn't the same as "No nutritional content", even then, that's only really true for water-soluble vitamins (B vitamins and vitamin C), fat-soluble ones aren't effected to any meaningful degree by this.

 

[Zeekie]

vegetables having anti-oxidants is a meme
it's not true
it has oxidants, not anti-oxidants.

Do you understand what an anti-oxidant is? First off anti-oxidants in the context of nutrition generally refers to a couple vitamins: A, E and C, there are other plant-specific antioxidants (like anthocyanins) and animal-specific antioxidants (like carnosine), and ones found generally across both types of organisms like glutathione. These compounds are called "anti-oxidants" because they donate electrons to oxidative agents (or as you call them "oxidants") in your body resulting from your metabolism, basically making them stable.

I'm not even sure where you got that from, like I cannot even fathom the logical thought process leading to that conclusion.

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Let's go over some things:
"Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based" I never said you can't get every micronutrient from an animal-based diet, I said it is complicated to get them in the right quantities, as you should know "getting vitamin D" and "getting 600 IUs of vitamin D" isn't the same. Technically speaking, if you eat 1 egg and an orange you're getting every single micronutrient, but that doesn't mean you're getting them in the right quantities.

"The concept of anti oxidants js stupid"

"You do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right" Liver has vitamin K2, not K1, and it doesn't have "plenty of vitamin E", here's the nutritional content of 100g of beef liver:
View attachment 3791217View attachment 3791219
0.5mg of vitamin E isn't exactly "plenty".

"Plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients" News flash, plants lack things animal tissues have, and vice versa Also, plants don't lack K1, they lack K2. The idea of a balanced diet is eating both animal and plant products so you aren't lacking in a specific thing.

"No human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree" No human in nature cares about modern medicine, but that doesn't really mean anything.

"There is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy" I never said anything relating to this but now that you mentioned… That's factually wrong. If you eat high doses of liver for a long enough time, you're going to run into hypervitaminosis A and into copper toxicity.

"We do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose" So? It's indigestible fiber, true. What's the bottom line there?

"If you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much" let me be pedantic for a second, but you can't "kill" nutrients, they're not living things. That aside, I don't think you understand how cooking affects the nutritional content of food, yes some nutrients are damaged in the process, but that's very much irrelevant, it's not like if you boil some spinach all of its vitamin E, beta-carotene or calcium is going to disintegrate into oblivion and it will have zero nutritional value. "Reduced nutritional content" isn't the same as "No nutritional content", even then, that's only really true for water-soluble vitamins (B vitamins and vitamin C), fat-soluble ones aren't effected to any meaningful degree by this.

Give me your discord, mine is cartism.sx we can debate in vc ur so wrong

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Give me your discord, mine is cartism.sx we can debate in vc ur so wrong

You would get destroyed

 

[swt]

Humans are carnivores.

What a shocker that plants are bad.

like every other type of ape, humans are actually omnivores.

 

[swt]

You would get destroyed

whats your discord, i wanna watch this.

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

whats your discord, i wanna watch this.

cartism.sx

 

[i14bytes]

Never NEVER eat VEGETABLES or any PLANTS.

You're a fucking retard if you do.

I see people saying "muhh no veggie diet is carnivore cope, get your veggies in dont try to be cool"

Nobody is NOT eating vegetables to be cool or anything?

Vegetables have zero micronutrients, BARELY if anything, which, the fiber, something that's indigestible, binds to, so our body can not digest it at all.

You're not a rabbit or anything. A rabbit can fucking eat a vegetable and get benefits from it because a rabbits body has the required digestive enzymes to digest vegetables properly,

But humans do not have that.

On top of that vegetables have oxalates which bind to minerals like calcium and will cause dysfunctions in the thyroid.

They are very inflammatory and have GOITROGENS and what does a GOITROGEN do?

They lower the amount of thyroid hormones in your body and will cause Goatr.

Broccoli has high amounts of goitrogens, and it's regarded as a health food, guess by who, the same zionists that fucking eat babies.

Never eat any vegetables. There is a reason why I don't consume any vegetables. It's not some retarded tiktok mainstream diet or anything. Vegetables are not human food. They will ruin your fucking body.

good thread

 

[i14bytes]

vegetables having anti-oxidants is a meme
it's not true
it has oxidants, not anti-oxidants.

vegatable 'anti- oxidants' can turn pro oxidant in the human body. look at how smoking interacts with beta carotene

 

[Never Get Up]

like every other type of ape, humans are actually omnivores.

Enjoy your early death.

 

[Zeekie]

Give me your discord, mine is cartism.sx we can debate in vc ur so wrong

Lol, I'm doing a group project rn so even if I wanted to I can, but debating on Discord is so fucking pointless bro, not like we're going to change anybody's stance by the end of it, it's just an ego battle Vegetables are fine, there are no scientific sources to back up your claim, anti-nutrients are NOT problematic to the majority of people, if even after cooking vegetables properly they still cause issues, then yeah, maybe cut them out, but that's a specific sensitivity YOU have, that's not the reality for majority of the population.

 

[Zeekie]

Enjoy your early death.

btw eating greater amount of vegetables actually correlates to longer lifespans in the literature**

 

[Never Get Up]

btw eating greater amount of vegetables actually correlates to longer lifespans in the literature**

Glad you’re ok with killing yourself.

 

[Zeekie]

Glad you’re ok with killing yourself.

Statistically speaking, I have fewer chances of dying than you dude Only time will tell

 

[swt]

Enjoy your early death.

no debunk, no nothing. nice.

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Lol, I'm doing a group project rn so even if I wanted to I can, but debating on Discord is so fucking pointless bro, not like we're going to change anybody's stance by the end of it, it's just an ego battle Vegetables are fine, there are no scientific sources to back up your claim, anti-nutrients are NOT problematic to the majority of people, if even after cooking vegetables properly they still cause issues, then yeah, maybe cut them out, but that's a specific sensitivity YOU have, that's not the reality for majority of the population.

I debate for the truth not for the sake of debating

 

[TrueSlavic]

Never NEVER eat VEGETABLES or any PLANTS.

You're a fucking retard if you do.

I see people saying "muhh no veggie diet is carnivore cope, get your veggies in dont try to be cool"

Nobody is NOT eating vegetables to be cool or anything?

Vegetables have zero micronutrients, BARELY if anything, which, the fiber, something that's indigestible, binds to, so our body can not digest it at all.

You're not a rabbit or anything. A rabbit can fucking eat a vegetable and get benefits from it because a rabbits body has the required digestive enzymes to digest vegetables properly,

But humans do not have that.

On top of that vegetables have oxalates which bind to minerals like calcium and will cause dysfunctions in the thyroid.

They are very inflammatory and have GOITROGENS and what does a GOITROGEN do?

They lower the amount of thyroid hormones in your body and will cause Goatr.

Broccoli has high amounts of goitrogens, and it's regarded as a health food, guess by who, the same zionists that fucking eat babies.

Never eat any vegetables. There is a reason why I don't consume any vegetables. It's not some retarded tiktok mainstream diet or anything. Vegetables are not human food. They will ruin your fucking body.

finally some highq thread worth reading

 

[nosecel (sec acc)]

Glad you’re ok with killing yourself.

Eating toxic plants we never consumed for milion of years is gonna make me live longer !!!!!

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

Never NEVER eat VEGETABLES or any PLANTS.

You're a fucking retard if you do.

I see people saying "muhh no veggie diet is carnivore cope, get your veggies in dont try to be cool"

Nobody is NOT eating vegetables to be cool or anything?

Vegetables have zero micronutrients, BARELY if anything, which, the fiber, something that's indigestible, binds to, so our body can not digest it at all.

You're not a rabbit or anything. A rabbit can fucking eat a vegetable and get benefits from it because a rabbits body has the required digestive enzymes to digest vegetables properly,

But humans do not have that.

On top of that vegetables have oxalates which bind to minerals like calcium and will cause dysfunctions in the thyroid.

They are very inflammatory and have GOITROGENS and what does a GOITROGEN do?

They lower the amount of thyroid hormones in your body and will cause Goatr.

Broccoli has high amounts of goitrogens, and it's regarded as a health food, guess by who, the same zionists that fucking eat babies.

Never eat any vegetables. There is a reason why I don't consume any vegetables. It's not some retarded tiktok mainstream diet or anything. Vegetables are not human food. They will ruin your fucking body.

bro learned biology on india

 

[john2]

Agreed, vegetables suck. First of all, most modern vegetables aren't even real, these didn't exist in nature a few hundred years ago. Vegetables have too many phytoestrogens, and barely any nutritional value.

Unlike fruits, you can't and don't eat vegetables raw. You have to cook (steam, fry or boil) the vegetable, and then season it to make it palatable.

But meat, like seafood can be consumed raw or cured, and it is totally palatable.

Only eat fruits, honey, dairy, poultry, seafood and meat. Avoid refined sugar and never consume seed oils.

 

[getratioedbozo]

Never NEVER eat VEGETABLES or any PLANTS.

You're a fucking retard if you do.

I see people saying "muhh no veggie diet is carnivore cope, get your veggies in dont try to be cool"

Nobody is NOT eating vegetables to be cool or anything?

Vegetables have zero micronutrients, BARELY if anything, which, the fiber, something that's indigestible, binds to, so our body can not digest it at all.

You're not a rabbit or anything. A rabbit can fucking eat a vegetable and get benefits from it because a rabbits body has the required digestive enzymes to digest vegetables properly,

But humans do not have that.

On top of that vegetables have oxalates which bind to minerals like calcium and will cause dysfunctions in the thyroid.

They are very inflammatory and have GOITROGENS and what does a GOITROGEN do?

They lower the amount of thyroid hormones in your body and will cause Goatr.

Broccoli has high amounts of goitrogens, and it's regarded as a health food, guess by who, the same zionists that fucking eat babies.

Never eat any vegetables. There is a reason why I don't consume any vegetables. It's not some retarded tiktok mainstream diet or anything. Vegetables are not human food. They will ruin your fucking body.

The "never" wasn't necessary

 

[asdvek]

Agreed, vegetables suck. First of all, most modern vegetables aren't even real, these didn't exist in nature a few hundred years ago. Vegetables have too many phytoestrogens, and barely any nutritional value.

Unlike fruits, you can't and don't eat vegetables raw. You have to cook (steam, fry or boil) the vegetable, and then season it to make it palatable.

But meat, like seafood can be consumed raw or cured, and it is totally palatable.

Only eat fruits, honey, dairy, poultry, seafood and meat. Avoid refined sugar and never consume seed oils.

Fr, like all these people saying cauliflower is good brocolli is good

Have u seen them eat it raw JFL

They fucking drown the broccoli in yoghurt or steam it

They dont eat it on its own

If you ate raw vegetables ONLY youd drop dead in a few months

 

[Mogger2099]

Let's go over some things:
"Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based" I never said you can't get every micronutrient from an animal-based diet, I said it is complicated to get them in the right quantities, as you should know "getting vitamin D" and "getting 600 IUs of vitamin D" isn't the same. Technically speaking, if you eat 1 egg and an orange you're getting every single micronutrient, but that doesn't mean you're getting them in the right quantities.

"The concept of anti oxidants js stupid"

"You do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right" Liver has vitamin K2, not K1, and it doesn't have "plenty of vitamin E", here's the nutritional content of 100g of beef liver:
View attachment 3791217View attachment 3791219
0.5mg of vitamin E isn't exactly "plenty".

"Plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients" News flash, plants lack things animal tissues have, and vice versa Also, plants don't lack K1, they lack K2. The idea of a balanced diet is eating both animal and plant products so you aren't lacking in a specific thing.

"No human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree" No human in nature cares about modern medicine, but that doesn't really mean anything.

"There is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy" I never said anything relating to this but now that you mentioned… That's factually wrong. If you eat high doses of liver for a long enough time, you're going to run into hypervitaminosis A and into copper toxicity.

"We do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose" So? It's indigestible fiber, true. What's the bottom line there?

"If you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much" let me be pedantic for a second, but you can't "kill" nutrients, they're not living things. That aside, I don't think you understand how cooking affects the nutritional content of food, yes some nutrients are damaged in the process, but that's very much irrelevant, it's not like if you boil some spinach all of its vitamin E, beta-carotene or calcium is going to disintegrate into oblivion and it will have zero nutritional value. "Reduced nutritional content" isn't the same as "No nutritional content", even then, that's only really true for water-soluble vitamins (B vitamins and vitamin C), fat-soluble ones aren't effected to any meaningful degree by this.

I literraly told him the same exact thing like 3 months ago

His just clickbaiting

I mean bro just stop wasting your time with these retards just let natural do its work

 

[Mogger2099]

Agreed, vegetables suck. First of all, most modern vegetables aren't even real, these didn't exist in nature a few hundred years ago. Vegetables have too many phytoestrogens, and barely any nutritional value.

Unlike fruits, you can't and don't eat vegetables raw. You have to cook (steam, fry or boil) the vegetable, and then season it to make it palatable.

But meat, like seafood can be consumed raw or cured, and it is totally palatable.

Only eat fruits, honey, dairy, poultry, seafood and meat. Avoid refined sugar and never consume seed oils.

Honey is the same thing as sugar just with a better micro nutrient profile

Phyto estrogen wont affect your body insignificantly

Seeds are only bad when they are processed
Same thibg with any food that get processed

Why not eat 20% vegeterian and 80% Carnivore
People act like out ancestors ate only meat jfl

Even fucking lions has been shown to eat grass from time to time

And just so you know the guy writikg this used to chug Raw Milk
So im not defending anyone im just saying facts
(cause its cheaper than pasteurized where i live)

 

[Mogger2099]

Yeah, cuz I realized people are way too stupid nowadays, and you can't fix them all. Also note that I'm not the one making an outrageous statement, it is not my responsibility to bring some validity to what I say, it's the other way around.

Unless you want to actually start citing scientific research let's stick to speaking with logic and common knowledge... vegetables offer a wide array of micronutrients and anti-oxidants that you cannot get from beef and fruits a lot, I mean yeah you can, but getting them in the correct quantities to meet your RDI is virtually impossible. I'm unsure what degree of retardness you have, I'm hoping you're more of an "animal-based/fruits and animal products" guy, which is less retarded than the alternative.

The main issues with these type of diets revolve around vitamin E and K1, although I'm sure majority of you struggle with a lot more micronutrients, you just don't know that because you don't track them, but E and K1 are the vitamins I see people with these types of diets usually struggle with.

Aside from making it easier to meet your nutritional requirements (specially useful when in a caloric deficit or when you're not trying to go fucking broke), vegetables also offer plenty of beneficial compounds for our health.

"BUT ANTI-NUTRIENTS!!" hey bozo, I'm not suggested you eat vegetables raw, ideally you would boil, steam, sauté them in fat, ferment or soak them to reduce anti-nutrient content and if you do that, they're completely safe to eat. But even if you don't... nobody struggles with anti-nutrients lol, I mean a small percentage of the population does have digestive issues sometimes, but that's again, a small percentage and to those people I saw once again, just fucking cook them.

Those anti nutrient have good effect in your body
Their are anti nutrient in Carnivore aswell

 

[Deleted member 30845]

Let's go over some things:
"Lol name me one micronutrient your body needs you can't get from animal based" I never said you can't get every micronutrient from an animal-based diet, I said it is complicated to get them in the right quantities, as you should know "getting vitamin D" and "getting 600 IUs of vitamin D" isn't the same. Technically speaking, if you eat 1 egg and an orange you're getting every single micronutrient, but that doesn't mean you're getting them in the right quantities.

"The concept of anti oxidants js stupid"

"You do realize liver has plenty of vitamin e and k right" Liver has vitamin K2, not K1, and it doesn't have "plenty of vitamin E", here's the nutritional content of 100g of beef liver:
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0.5mg of vitamin E isn't exactly "plenty".

"Plants are deficient in 15 micro nutrients" News flash, plants lack things animal tissues have, and vice versa Also, plants don't lack K1, they lack K2. The idea of a balanced diet is eating both animal and plant products so you aren't lacking in a specific thing.

"No human in nature cares about the amount of vitamins in a specific degree" No human in nature cares about modern medicine, but that doesn't really mean anything.

"There is nothing proving ,,too much" of them is unhealthy" I never said anything relating to this but now that you mentioned… That's factually wrong. If you eat high doses of liver for a long enough time, you're going to run into hypervitaminosis A and into copper toxicity.

"We do not have the enzymes to digest the cellulose" So? It's indigestible fiber, true. What's the bottom line there?

"If you cook/boil then you regardless kill a lot of the nutrients so either way it does not change much" let me be pedantic for a second, but you can't "kill" nutrients, they're not living things. That aside, I don't think you understand how cooking affects the nutritional content of food, yes some nutrients are damaged in the process, but that's very much irrelevant, it's not like if you boil some spinach all of its vitamin E, beta-carotene or calcium is going to disintegrate into oblivion and it will have zero nutritional value. "Reduced nutritional content" isn't the same as "No nutritional content", even then, that's only really true for water-soluble vitamins (B vitamins and vitamin C), fat-soluble ones aren't effected to any meaningful degree by this.

You get all the nutrients you need in the right quantities with animal foods only. Cooking (heat) = destroying, and creating carcinogenic compounds.