List of methods to INCREASE BONE TURNOVER RATE

[Deleted member 1901]

Otherwise known as bone remodeling rate. Increasing remodeling rate may increase modeling rate, should a stimulus be there to induce bone modeling. (Speculative, but I’ll look into this to try and confirm this)

Here’s my list (please add to it by replying):

Increasing IGF-1

Increasing HGH

Increasing strain (mechanical loading)

Increasing vitamin D

Low calcium levels in the blood to stimulate parathyroid hormone secretion which increases bone remodeling rate. There are many ways to reduce calcium levels in the blood.

 

[thereallegend]

meclizine (increasing cnp)

 

[Deleted member 24789]

I don't think there is a big effect to this bro

maybe if you do this from age 3 to 11

 

[Deleted member 1901]

meclizine (increasing cnp)

What’s “CNP?”

I’m not sure it increases bone turnover rate because it inhibits osteoclastogenesis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5632684/

 

[Deleted member 1901]

I don't think there is a big effect to this bro

maybe if you do this from age 3 to 11

Yeah I’m most likely coping but what else can I do? I will start wageslaving as soon as I get a job. I have applied.

 

[vinn98]

Strontium citrate has a massive effect on bone metabolism, increases bone density by around 15% after 2 years

Also vitamin K2. Creatine also increases bone formation in vitro and in a study it increased the bone mass of growing rats. Creatine increases IGF-1.

Effect of creatine supplementation and resistance-exercise training on muscle insulin-like growth factor in young adults - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to compare changes in muscle insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) content resulting from resistance-exercise training (RET) and creatine supplementation (CR). Male (n=24) and female (n=18) participants with minimal resistance-exercise-training experience (=1 year)...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Yeah I’m most likely coping but what else can I do? I will start wageslaving as soon as I get a job. I have applied.

Bimax , LL imo

you don't need anything else, zygo implants are shit and overrated +full of problems like infections, you don't have a collagen problem at the moment and jaw angle implant can be cool but after bimax (or at the same time with a well done morph)

yes of course at the moment you can't do anything without money lol but i think everything except leanmaxxing/surgery is cope

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Strontium citrate

Also vitamin K2. Creatine also increases bone formation in vitro and in a study it increased the bone mass of growing rats.

To increase bone turnover rate, one would increase bone bone formation and bone resorption. Strontium ranelate I assume is similar to strontium citrate. I don’t think it will work.

“SrR has been shown in vivo and in vitro studies to simultaneously decrease bone resorption and increase bone formation [7, 8]. SrR exerts antiresorptive effect by modulating NFκB signaling pathway and decreasing osteoclast differentiation. It further causes apoptosis of osteoclast via Calcium Sensing Receptor (CaSR) activation and Protein kinase C βII (PKCβII) pathway [8] and regulates osteoclast activity by increased osteoprotegrin production and decreased Receptor Activator of Nuclear Factor kappa-B Ligand (RANKL) expression [9], resulting in decreased bone resorption.”

Same with k2

“2008). On the other hand, vitamin K2 inhibits osteoclast formation by inhibiting expression of RANKL, and promotes osteoclast apoptosis (Kameda et al., 1996). Vitamin K2 also inhibit osteoclast formation indirectly by decreasing the expression of RANKL, and increasing the expression of osteoprotegerin (osteoclast inhibitory factor) in human stromal cells (Koshihara et al., 2003).”

 

[Deleted member 1901]

@ph4ntom @julian111 @ArcticStorm @Shitfacegoodbod=mog @Ragnar

 

[nulll]

Vit k2 also DHT theres more I know but I'm very sleep deprived right now

 

[ArcticStorm]

Great Thread My Bro

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Vit k2 also DHT theres more I know but I'm very sleep deprived right now

I’ll look into dht but

“2008). On the other hand, vitamin K2 inhibits osteoclast formation by inhibiting expression of RANKL, and promotes osteoclast apoptosis (Kameda et al., 1996). Vitamin K2 also inhibit osteoclast formation indirectly by decreasing the expression of RANKL, and increasing the expression of osteoprotegerin (osteoclast inhibitory factor) in human stromal

K2 won’t work.

 

[BongMog]

Bump

 

[ph4ntom]

bump

 

[vinn98]

To increase bone turnover rate, one would increase bone bone formation and bone resorption. Strontium ranelate I assume is similar to strontium citrate. I don’t think it will work.

“SrR has been shown in vivo and in vitro studies to simultaneously decrease bone resorption and increase bone formation [7, 8]. SrR exerts antiresorptive effect by modulating NFκB signaling pathway and decreasing osteoclast differentiation. It further causes apoptosis of osteoclast via Calcium Sensing Receptor (CaSR) activation and Protein kinase C βII (PKCβII) pathway [8] and regulates osteoclast activity by increased osteoprotegrin production and decreased Receptor Activator of Nuclear Factor kappa-B Ligand (RANKL) expression [9], resulting in decreased bone resorption.”

Same with k2

“2008). On the other hand, vitamin K2 inhibits osteoclast formation by inhibiting expression of RANKL, and promotes osteoclast apoptosis (Kameda et al., 1996). Vitamin K2 also inhibit osteoclast formation indirectly by decreasing the expression of RANKL, and increasing the expression of osteoprotegerin (osteoclast inhibitory factor) in human stromal cells (Koshihara et al., 2003).”

They reduce bone resorption and increase formation so net increase in bone mass, why would you think that's a bad thing?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

They reduce bone resorption and increase formation so net increase in bone mass, why would you think that's a bad thing?

Because that’s not bone turnover. I wish to increase bone turnover rate drastically in order to possibly validate mewing. I want to increase both osteoblast and osteoclast activity

 

[Sanguinius]

- Androgens
- Estrogen
- bisphosphonates (osteoporosis medication)
- osteoanabolics like teriparatide (also osteoporosis medication)

 

[Sanguinius]

Maybe look into peptides too

 

[Deleted member 1901]

- bisphosphonates (osteoporosis medication)
- osteoanabolics like teriparatide (also osteoporosis medication)

WouldnT osteoporosis medications inhibit osteoclastic activity? I want the opposite of that.

 

[Sanguinius]

WouldnT osteoporosis medications inhibit osteoclastic activity? I want the opposite of that.

Yes, you’re right, the bisphosphonates would. However, the osteoanabolics work by activating osteoblasts to increase bone mass. But why have you specifically chosen this path over others? Why not throw the kitchen sink at it. If you halt any bone reabsorption through these osteoporosis medications, while megadosing bone building nutrients, while increasing mechanical loading say chewing for example to give the signals for where the bone should model, while creating a growth environment through HGH, androgens, estrogen, and ideally osteoanabolics (I couldn’t source them though) surely that’s the best bet?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

@weebcel

 

[Deleted member 21765]

Maybe the biggest cope ever but here you go: https://magnumworkshop.com/how-to-speed-up-bone-remodeling/

 

[letsdoit]

Vit k2 also DHT theres more I know but I'm very sleep deprived right now

Dht gel on penis? Or what else with dht gel?