PUA Cold Approaching Is Fundamentally Flawed

[Deleted member 2854]

If you're school or college-aged, the 'just be around girls bro you'll grow on them' approach is legit. I could have fucked many girls this way but was too stupid and young to realise it.

However past 22 or so you're fucked. If you're lucky, you'll work with a hot girl and will eventually spend enough time with her she'll start feeling attraction, but the odds are slim unless you work in a 'cool' industry.

 

[onnysk]

You want to approach but in a friendly manner within social circle to develop sexual attraction.

Cold approach was born in US because they're open culture with no privacy in simple minded terms so they could do that in 2000s where everyone was partying.

Fucking lol at trying to do it in a shithole in balkans

 

[wristcel]

PUA has harmed more men than it has helped.

It actually helped me and took me from kinda incel too a semi-respectable slay count - most importantly that slay count included one or two girls who were way out of my league. (way young and way hotter)

I'm not putting this down to PUA nonsense, btw. Just the simple act of approaching, thus increasing my odds! I began to think of it as a way for me to find hot girls who thought my ugly ass was good looking! They're out there!
I wouldn't have had the confidence to try if it wasn't for believing the shit I read in books at the time!

Good post by OP, though.

I have lots of thoughts about 'game' and stuff as have been approaching for years and have lots of experience and not just arm chair theory

However past 22 or so you're fucked. If you're lucky, you'll work with a hot girl and will eventually spend enough time with her she'll start feeling attraction, but the odds are slim unless you work in a 'cool' industry.

I've got an oldcel, Indian friend who got divorced from his fat wife a while back.

He got a really good job in some super trendy IT/hosting place where it's like working at google or some shit. Super modern and 'new age' principles where it's all about empowering your employees. 'Happy workers are the best workers' etc. So they spend all day playing table tennis and pool in their office and going for long alcoholic 'team drinks' for 2 hours at lunch

Anyway, he works with like 6 hot girls! Mainly 18 -22 year olds. I'm pretty sure his wife was the only person he'd ever banged before and she was a 5, and he's already banged 3 of the girls from his work. Hot teenagers. Easy 7.5's imo. He's also met their friends and it sounds like he's got at least a few more young girls lined up.
He can't believe it. I can't believe it.
But your theory checks out lol

 

[Jagged0]

It actually helped me and took me from kinda incel too a semi-respectable slay count - most importantly that slay count included one or two girls who were way out of my league. (way young and way hotter)

I'm not putting this down to PUA nonsense, btw. Just the simple act of approaching, thus increasing my odds! I began to think of it as a way for me to find hot girls who thought my ugly ass was good looking! They're out there!
I wouldn't have had the confidence to try if it wasn't for believing the shit I read in books at the time!

Good post by OP, though.

I have lots of thoughts about 'game' and stuff as have been approaching for years and have lots of experience and not just arm chair theory


I've got an oldcel, Indian friend who got divorced from his fat wife a while back.

He got a really good job in some super trendy IT/hosting place where it's like working at google or some shit. Super modern and 'new age' principles where it's all about empowering your employees. 'Happy workers are the best workers' etc. So they spend all day playing table tennis and pool in their office and going for long alcoholic 'team drinks' for 2 hours at lunch

Anyway, he works with like 6 hot girls! Mainly 18 -22 year olds. I'm pretty sure his wife was the only person he'd ever banged before and she was a 5, and he's already banged 3 of the girls from his work. Hot teenagers. Easy 7.5's imo. He's also met their friends and it sounds like he's got at least a few more young girls lined up.
He can't believe it. I can't believe it.
But your theory checks out lol

I don’t believe greycel cucktear plants

 

[Deleted member 2854]

It actually helped me and took me from kinda incel too a semi-respectable slay count - most importantly that slay count included one or two girls who were way out of my league. (way young and way hotter)

I'm not putting this down to PUA nonsense, btw. Just the simple act of approaching, thus increasing my odds! I began to think of it as a way for me to find hot girls who thought my ugly ass was good looking! They're out there!
I wouldn't have had the confidence to try if it wasn't for believing the shit I read in books at the time!

Good post by OP, though.

I have lots of thoughts about 'game' and stuff as have been approaching for years and have lots of experience and not just arm chair theory


I've got an oldcel, Indian friend who got divorced from his fat wife a while back.

He got a really good job in some super trendy IT/hosting place where it's like working at google or some shit. Super modern and 'new age' principles where it's all about empowering your employees. 'Happy workers are the best workers' etc. So they spend all day playing table tennis and pool in their office and going for long alcoholic 'team drinks' for 2 hours at lunch

Anyway, he works with like 6 hot girls! Mainly 18 -22 year olds. I'm pretty sure his wife was the only person he'd ever banged before and she was a 5, and he's already banged 3 of the girls from his work. Hot teenagers. Easy 7.5's imo. He's also met their friends and it sounds like he's got at least a few more young girls lined up.
He can't believe it. I can't believe it.
But your theory checks out lol

Yeah sorry but I don't believe a single fucking word of the second part of what you said. Pics of him and any evidence, otherwise fuck off clown.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Deleted member 3679]

PUA only helps shy guys who already meet the looks threshold

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Game is contrary to popular belief on this site very important to guys in the 4-6.5 range as women have an UNLIMITED supply of men in that range. A woman is going to choose the most charismatic guy and game techniques help you do that. Cold approach is hard but yields more results than tinder. If you catch a girl staring/looking you should approach her as she won't approach you, this is where social skills/game comes in. No matter how much you looksmax, you still have to open your mouth and talk to a woman. Unless you looksmaxx to become a 8, 9 or 10 which is not gonna happen, game techniques and cold approaching are very useful.

However, if a girl sees you as a 3, no amount of game can help you make her think of you as a 8.

Conclusion: game helps you get girls who are already PHYSICALLY attracted to you. You can definitely turn a girl off by having weird mannerisms or doing weird beta shit like texting her all day or buying her flowers.

 

[Deleted member 756]

Ok

 

[LeroyJenkinsceltek]

Sorry at the end of the day , if you don't have a unique purpose in talking to this random girl on the street, undeniable to the female (promotion to a bar etc.). As an unattractive male, you will be turned away, for hussling, creepiness and any other absurd reason you/they can think of. Never approach a woman without her welcoming eyes... eyes are a natural cue for you to act (dummies), it's lowkey signals... instead of worrying about what to say or how to act, see what her eyes and body language are telling you. that's why dickhead guys who barely say anything get away with their shit. , and anyone who doesn't know what that looks like is autistic or hasn't socialised in a while. This PUA shit capitalises on the drive all men have deep down inside (even the beta and omega). They're capitalising on your natural instinct, and those falling for it should truly question their existence. Achieve greatness, get in shape, become smart, fill your life with purpose that doesn't revolve around pussy and you'll eventually find pussy revolving around you.

 

[MammothActuary]

Game is contrary to popular belief on this site very important to guys in the 4-6.5 range as women have an UNLIMITED supply of men in that range. A woman is going to choose the most charismatic guy and game techniques help you do that. Cold approach is hard but yields more results than tinder. If you catch a girl staring/looking you should approach her as she won't approach you, this is where social skills/game comes in. No matter how much you looksmax, you still have to open your mouth and talk to a woman. Unless you looksmaxx to become a 8, 9 or 10 which is not gonna happen, game techniques and cold approaching are very useful.

However, if a girl sees you as a 3, no amount of game can help you make her think of you as a 8.

Conclusion: game helps you get girls who are already PHYSICALLY attracted to you. You can definitely turn a girl off by having weird mannerisms or doing weird beta shit like texting her all day or buying her flowers.

You copied and pasted this from somewhere

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

You copied and pasted this from somewhere

from myself in other threads

 

[Deleted member 2854]

Cold approach has got to be the most uncomfortable thing I've ever done. I would rather give a speech on a topic I had no clue about to 1000 people than cold approach 1 girl, and this is coming from someone who's done 30-40 cold approaches. It really is the worst feeling on earth.

 

[Duran]

"Just act confident in the situation"

The problem is the first thing she'll see is your looks, and your voice is genetic too, and she doesn't know your social status - so it only works for chad, even if this wasn't the case redpillers still underestimate how much is genetically pre-determined.

 

[NormieKilla]

Cold-approaching could be something fun if it paid.

The rush of adrenaline you feel before approaching is intense but once you open the conversation and you see that it goes pretty well, it gives such a good feeling in return.


Unfortunately for most of us who are subhumans, cold-approaching consists of getting this rush of adrenaline with the pain of rejection. Cold-approaching is absolutely toxic and is the worst idea for any sub6 man.

 

[looksmaxxed]

You are better off chadfishing on tinder, and then basically hoping the girl will still give you a chance once you show up and reveal you cat fished her.

i've gotten sex by photoshopfishing, but usually the girl will say she found someone else when you request a second session. always make sure you have enough time so you can fuck the girl out completely the first time. i like to have 4 hours to do everything i want with her.

 

[Virgincel]

Can somebody post a video of a gigachad cold approaching and succeeding effortlessly with whatever shit he says?

 

[Fubarcel]

So, we're supposed to find some way to be around a female for prolonged periods of time...

Sounds like a better way to start your criminal career.

It's easily doable even for truecels.

 

[Deleted member 2854]

Can somebody post a video of a gigachad cold approaching and succeeding effortlessly with whatever shit he says?

This guy is a chad and does pretty well

 

[Eduardo DOV]

so.. cold approaching is the best way to test ur looks with girls ?

chad bein rejected

This guy is a chad and does pretty well

look the video above, he gets rejected a lot of times

in my opinion cold approach is a nice option if u are at least average. If you know/learn how to talk NT u can get results. That's my opinion
in view of what I observe in the REAL WORLD.

folks here will oppose this idea to death, blackpill is more comfortable.

of course if u are truly ugly and manlet you are fucked on this.
you'd have to be low inhib as fuck and rich.

 

[Jagged0]

so.. cold approaching is the best way to test ur looks with girls ?

chad bein rejected


look the video above, he gets rejected a lot of times

in my opinion cold approach is a nice option if u are at least average. If you know/learn how to talk NT u can get results. That's my opinion
in view of what I observe in the REAL WORLD.

folks here will oppose this idea to death, blackpill is more comfortable.

of course if u are truly ugly and manlet you are fucked on this.
you'd have to be low inhib as fuck and rich.

If chads getting rejected why the fuck would you a subhuman do it?

 

[NormieKilla]

so.. cold approaching is the best way to test ur looks with girls ?

chad bein rejected


look the video above, he gets rejected a lot of times

in my opinion cold approach is a nice option if u are at least average. If you know/learn how to talk NT u can get results. That's my opinion
in view of what I observe in the REAL WORLD.

folks here will oppose this idea to death, blackpill is more comfortable.

of course if u are truly ugly and manlet you are fucked on this.
you'd have to be low inhib as fuck and rich.

We know that PUA are scam artists who hire actresses to play roles. So how can you believe this video to be true ?

It's obviously fake IMO. This video is just designed to push a bluepill narrative which is: If even a man with high SMV get turned on, that means that looks have nothing to do with your lack of success. Therefore, you need to learn game !

See the bullshit ?

 

[Eduardo DOV]

We know that PUA are scam artists who hire actresses to play roles. So how can you believe this video to be true ?

It's obviously fake IMO. This video is just designed to push a bluepill narrative which is: If even a man with high SMV get turned on, that means that looks have nothing to do with your lack of success. Therefore, you need to learn game !

See the bullshit ?

u really think this guy would always get any girls he wanted ?

 

[NormieKilla]

u really think this guy would always get any girls he wanted ?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 2854]

Yes

It’s not faked. There’s other vids of him doing ‘live’ pickup where he also got rejected. Cold approach is hard for everyone, just less hard if you’re GL

 

[DarknLost]

Never it began,over is it

 

[BigChinHispanic]

dn rd

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

Notes:

1. You still need to "approach" (initiate conversation is a better way of putting it), but just do it in more natural situations. Not this random street spam shit. Cold approaching is like spam email.

2. "You're just a defeatist! You don't want to face rejection! You don't want to put in the effort!" Wrong. This post is actually helping ugly guys by telling them the RIGHT way of getting girls that has a much higher success rate.

3. If you're a truecel and not NT, nothing will work.

[/QUOTE]
Bullshit

I have plenty of 5/10 ethnic friends who are khhv and havent done shit with girls

if your ethnic you won't be getting anything from women if you are sub6

women have standards, not preferences

 

[AbandonShip]

G

 

[Pietrosiek]

If i was elias De poot i would cold aproach Zuzia in the bus and i would fuck her there

3. If you're a truecel and not NT, nothing will work.

Brootal

 

[Alphatimothy]

lol @ all these losers that approach 5000 girls with a SMV of 0. They don't get it

 

[Mustang19]

Heterosexuality is fundameblly flawed

 

[eduardkoopman]

If chads getting rejected why the fuck would you a subhuman do it?

rejection happens. alot for normies, and less often for Chads.
if the possibility of rejection is the standard,most people should stop25+% of the things they are doing. All sales people should then quit, immidiately

 

[IndianJock]

Can somebody post a video of a gigachad cold approaching and succeeding effortlessly with whatever shit he says?

Not even chad gets away with it. Just fucking lol if you'd give this guy anything less than a 9 or 10

 

[Gosick]

so if tinder and pua dont work


then what does? lmao wtf

 

[Dark Latino]

so if tinder and pua dont work


then what does? lmao wtf

Everything works you just have to approach cause women won't do shit no matter how good looking you are...

 

[eduardkoopman]

Not even chad gets away with it. Just fucking lol if you'd give this guy anything less than a 9 or 10

legit post.
being very direct, doesn't work with women. Not even if you're a Chadlite or high tier normie. A full Chad, might get away with it a little bit, but probably also only would max score 10% in the daytime, if he's a GigaChad.
Women complain sometimes, and say men shoud tell/say what they want directly. But men don't do that, because it doesn't work. Women give stupid dating advice nearly always.

Being semi-direct as a dude, is kinda legit ime. Speaking about, having style that doesn't scare of (semi-) interested girls, but also not becoming a friendzone/entertainment monkey guy. Semi-direct is imo, like: giving a compliment, or saying you like her appearance, or saying you're curious about who she is, etc..
Being totally Indirect, is actually also good imo, just watch out for friendzone guy; aka 100% a-sexual vibe.


This guy I just came across by Youtube suggestion. He has like near perfect "game", aka conversational skills. Yet he still couldn't get a woman to talk more/open up and get anywhere beyond friendly convo.
Why? Because he has normie tier looks. It's not his game, that's the problem.

so if tinder and pua dont work


then what does? lmao wtf

Nothing works, really. It's more a degree ow what works least bad, then what works good. Nothing works good; in my observation.
the norm for most men, is massive rejection rate. At least, if you're a dude that wants to sex/date random women and not just stay fishing in the pool of the 20 females in your social circle.

What works best, but extrenly difficult to do:
1. be famous/wellknow/status, and organise parties that women may come to (and a few of your best buddies) (a bit like belzerian does/did)
2. be rich, and organise parties that women may come to (and a few of your best buddies) (a bit like belzerian does/did)

Locationmaxxing, is likely the best cheat-code for the average man.

After that. Everything works pretty bad if you're not a Chad.
Then it's just looksmaxxing, and ranking up massiveamounts of rejections by playing the numbers/statistics game.

 

[Dark Latino]

Not even chad gets away with it. Just fucking lol if you'd give this guy anything less than a 9 or 10

The guy from whatever is very good looking too he got 1 in 200 result
The girl got 30 out of 100 which means 60 guys in 200 compared to the guy


Lol if you think it's the same

 

[.👽.]

Nigga most of us are normal looking i guess. So we have no chance on tinder + most Girls on tinder are there for validation and for time wasting.

So what should we do? Approach them on Real life. I dont say do it on the streets tho

 

[IndianJock]

legit post.
being very direct, doesn't work with women. Not even if you're a Chadlite or high tier normie. A full Chad, might get away with it a little bit, but probably also only would max score 10% in the daytime, if he's a GigaChad.
Women complain sometimes, and say men shoud tell/say what they want directly. But men don't do that, because it doesn't work. Women give stupid dating advice nearly always.

Being semi-direct as a dude, is kinda legit ime. Speaking about, having style that doesn't scare of (semi-) interested girls, but also not becoming a friendzone/entertainment monkey guy. Semi-direct is imo, like: giving a compliment, or saying you like her appearance, or saying you're curious about who she is, etc..
Being totally Indirect, is actually also good imo, just watch out for friendzone guy; aka 100% a-sexual vibe.


This guy I just came across by Youtube suggestion. He has like near perfect "game", aka conversational skills. Yet he still couldn't get a woman to talk more/open up and get anywhere beyond friendly convo.
Why? Because he has normie tier looks. It's not his game, that's the problem.



Nothing works, really. It's more a degree ow what works least bad, then what works good. Nothing works good; in my observation.
the norm for most men, is massive rejection rate. At least, if you're a dude that wants to sex/date random women and not just stay fishing in the pool of the 20 females in your social circle.

What works best, but extrenly difficult to do:
1. be famous/wellknow/status, and organise parties that women may come to (and a few of your best buddies) (a bit like belzerian does/did)
2. be rich, and organise parties that women may come to (and a few of your best buddies) (a bit like belzerian does/did)

Locationmaxxing, is likely the best cheat-code for the average man.

After that. Everything works pretty bad if you're not a Chad.
Then it's just looksmaxxing, and ranking up massiveamounts of rejections by playing the numbers/statistics game.

The best ROI is looksmaxxing.

It makes people uncomfortable to see an ugly guy slaying

 

[eduardkoopman]

The guy from whatever is very good looking too he got 1 in 200 result

Dumb or asshole bitches be like: "why don't guys be honest, and tell/ask what they want! Man have to be honest!"
This is why, being honest as a man gives no-results; and a 99.999999% blow-out rate.
I don't even understand why women advice men to be honest and/or direct. They want them to get rejected or what.

 

[SpearOfOrion]

A first person perspective of a woman being approached by an utter subhuman

that's fucking hilarious.

 

[Usum]

PUA is for weak men.
A real man does not need to be explained what to be a man is... or even worse, to fake to be a real man in their case.
I was a natural very young.
It's pretty easy to understand female's nature and be direct with your needs/wants.

Dumb or asshole bitches be like: "why don't guys be honest, and tell/ask what they want! Man have to be honest!"
This is why, being honest as a man gives no-results; and a 99.999999% blow-out rate.
I don't even understand why women advice men to be honest and/or direct. They want them to get rejected or what.

It depends of your looks.
If she likes you, that's by far the best way to proceed.
It worked great for me but I almost never cold approached in the street.
That is just rude and creepy.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Not even chad gets away with it. Just fucking lol if you'd give this guy anything less than a 9 or 10

100 rejections wtf? whatever, the guy still got the number of some girls when he asked..

 

[Deleted member 5143]

I have the best sig

 

[wristcel]

oldcel with a same day lay with a teenager 'model' - (premium, 'unlisted' infield)

 

[Deleted member 6186]

Notice how most pua guys are 6 ft plus white dudes?

Wheres my 5'2 curry pua guy?

 

[eduardkoopman]

oldcel with a same day lay with a teenager 'model' - (premium, 'unlisted' infield)

smooth handshake, turning into handholding.
Also, it was not a same day lay, and might well have been that he managed to have sex with her. That it got fucked up somehow. I had that happen plenty time, having a good chatup and going fro a drink or somethng else immediately. But it still flakeing or not leading further on the next date/dates. The nature of flakeyness, when you are anormie was pretty massive for me..

LOL @ 27 being oldcel.
Male peak is on average 26 - 36 years old. (if he: doesn't go ugly bald(ing), doesn't get fat, doesn't get fucked up skin)

tl;dr:
https://iconicmen.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/smv-is-it-real/

Massive OkCupid study done on Age and SMV decline and peak on Men and Women based on overall desirability. Done in 2015 with both young and older people. Millions of people.

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2010/02/8.png
https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2015/07/03/ok-cupid-data-on-sex-desirability-and-age/

Aging and desirability of both men and women is something this community gets wrong most of the time. While "the wall" is hyperbole female desirability drops very far very fast after 23-24 and male desirability shoots up rapidly up to about 26-27 where it peaks for a good 10 years then declines.

AGE BLACKPILL-

Male Prime=26-36

Go lookup "hot men" on google, nearly 75% of results are of men aged in that bracket above. Chads become higher tier chads in their early-mid 30s before declining.

Understand that things other than looks change what a girl thinks of you and having a more masculine looks which you can get at older age is one of them. Although looks are 75% of the battle. Social proof(signals of high status, easy to fake), money(bitches orgasm more with rich guys, google it), or generally any display of sexual dimorphic power. Basically femoids get off on sex more when they're getting plowed by a man they perceive as powerful.

This is why SOME older guys have higher SMV with age(Chads and Chadlites). Age isn't the crippling factor you guys make it out to be. Go look up "Top 100 sexiest men" or "/r/ladyboners" or just google "Hot guys" and the MAJORITY of those guys are in their late twenties to mid thirties. This is because testosterone causes masculinization of the face and voice over your entire lifetime. Meaning your voice and face and still changing(albeit much slower) even in your 20's and 30's.

Age doesn't make much so much of a difference to women (as it does to us men, visa versa) as long as you're actually attractive.

For example:

See Here - He's in his Thirties.

Perhaps even better this tinder experiment article down below concerning younger vs older attractive men on tinder. Make sure you read and understand the entire article, but in summary a 26 year old attractive guy on tinder pulled tons of foids. A 34 year old attractive guy pulled even more(age ranges, older women have less options) and when factoring for age and setting the 34 year old man to an age range only allowing matches between 18-26 he pulled 3% less of this age range than the 26 year old. See this picture here.

Tinder Experiments

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study

In summary JFL if you aren't attractive, age doesn't matter much only your face.

Look at the way roasties talk about guys like Jared Leto, they would gladly line themselves up, strip down, and allow him to plow them all one by one without a care in the world about his age. The dude is just attractive looking.

Think about how creepy it would be perceived if a 35 year old man were to be flirting with a 19 year old foid in the club. Now picture this 35 year old men flirting with her. Suddenly it went from creepy to A-okay with her, her friends, and everyone else(except bitter old roasties). Hell I bet if you're a loaded 35 year old and look like this you could pull her and her friends. Tell them there'a an after party with booze, movies, a huge TV, a Jacuzzi/Hot-tub, and a pool at your mansion. You get her and her friends and they would prefer you over a guy her own age of equal attractive with less flashy shit. That's a fact. Once guys are of equal attractiveness it comes down to other stuff after that, like status(or the perception there of), and money. You get the picture.

I understand I'm using Actors to prove my point and they're famous but it isn't the fame. It's what they look like.

Notice how for the most part it's only the attractive famous guys fucking a huge variety of 18-25 year old models and switching them out all the time(looking at you Leonardo DiCaprio). It's because they're still PSLI 7-10 they can fuck whoever the hell they want. Add their attractiveness in with their money and status and they're outright slayers.
Nick Bateman right now at 31 and Jeremy Meeks right now at 33 could both double team any college slut in the country with ease. Any guys that bash "older" dudes just for the age factor, but don't realize most of the men they prop up as chads are usually in their early to mid thirties.

I know I'm only talking about actors and models. But the same can be said of any attractive man in his 30's even late 30's. Can still pull young 18-25 women with ease if they look like these men I listed out(PSLI 7-10). If not then oh well they can always fuck post wall 25-35 year old women that are still hot(they exist). They all would gladly hand their pussy over for a chance to marry(lmfao not even once) a guy with a PSLI 5-6.5 Face and decent body (with money). If you are over 6.5 PSL you can choce to don't bother with them and just date 18-25 and have fun maybe it's easier and better for you in the end. Physically and mentally.

Anyway if you don't know this, or believe this, you might be that you're coping about age for some reason. Idk but either way it is what it is, can't argue with data and statistics.

Watch what they do. Not what they say.

 

[Moneymaxxed]

Many subhumans are miserable with their lack of romantic success and consequently start searching "how to get a girlfriend" on Youtube.
Through these searches, they will come across PUA, specifically "cold approaching" on the street or anywhere in the general public.

The Irony: The most romantically challenged men are immersing themselves in the most difficult practice of getting women.

View attachment 137264
A naive pua student thinking that even though girls he interacts with regularly can't become sexually attracted to him, a stranger can in an instant.


Fundamental Flaw of Cold Approaching

"When approaching a girl randomly for a brief interaction, the only thing she can go by is your looks. She doesn't know you, she hasn't spent enough time with you to trust you, she's startled since you caught her off guard, she doesn't have any friends vouching for you, etc. You're a complete stranger, so unless you're hot, she's not taking the risk of going out with you."

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A first person perspective of a woman being approached by an utter subhuman


Good News

Many girls, and I'm sure some of you, have found themselves becoming attracted to someone they initially didn't think was that attractive. You can see this yourself by going outside and seeing sub8's with girlfriends. So it's not completely over for you if you're sub8. But this took time, it took long conversation, it took a long time of interaction.

"But if I don't make my intentions clear from the start, I'll get friend zoned! That's what RSD Douchebag taught me!"

Wrong. If you make your intentions clear from the start and you're ugly...

You're literally creating a real life version of Tinder: "Am I hot enough or not?" - girl has to answer on the spot. And we know what the answer usually is based on Tinder statistics.

That's a recipe for failure if you're ugly. You actually WANT to spend a long time with a girl so she can build a personal and emotional connection to you, which then can make your ugly face more attractive to her at some point. This is the Mere Exposure Effect.

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Notes:

1. You still need to "approach" (initiate conversation is a better way of putting it), but just do it in more natural situations. Not this random street spam shit. Cold approaching is like spam email.

2. "You're just a defeatist! You don't want to face rejection! You don't want to put in the effort!" Wrong. This post is actually helping ugly guys by telling them the RIGHT way of getting girls that has a much higher success rate.

3. If you're a truecel and not NT, nothing will work.

Extremely good thread. Low SMV = indirect

 

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Cold approach spam worked for me. I have to approach approx 500 girls to get a girlfriend or get laid.

Male peak is on average 26 - 36 years old. (if he: doesn't go ugly bald(ing), doesn't get fat, doesn't get fucked up skin)

wow, cool copemaxx