Stop Coping with IOIs - Women Approaching You | Reasons Waiting For IOIs is COPE

[Wallenberg]

I mean sometimes IOI is what it really means: a girl indicating her interest through her behavior. And sometimes IOIs cheer me up.

 

[Deleted member 19499]

None of y’all are approaching 300 women lol

Nigga, I approached 100 IRL and 200 online rejections. I'm sub5 mentalcel so your second reason in the OP applies to me. I gotta continue looksmaxxing.

 

[tyronelite]

I mean sometimes IOI is what it really means: a girl indicating her interest through her behavior. And sometimes IOIs cheer me up.

Yeah and that rarely happens most guys don’t even have the social intelligence to understand they’re receiving IOIs

At the end I only care about P in V. Could care less if she stared at me all day lol

 

[tyronelite]

200 online rejections.

Online rejections don’t count in my books. I only count in real life interactions

Did they say they rejected you because of your height & sub5 face ?

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Online rejections don’t count in my books. I only count in real life interactions

Did they say they rejected you because of your height & sub5 face ?

It was a mixture of calling me ugly, creepy, or just outright ignoring me as if I wasn't there. Few tried politely rejecting me, but they ended up snickering in my face and walking away.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

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JFL who is that

 

[tyronelite]

It was a mixture of calling me ugly, creepy, or just outright ignoring me as if I wasn't there. Few tried politely rejecting me, but they ended up snickering in my face and walking away.

Well first I wanna congratulate you with your 100+ approaches.

You have more balls & confidence than most of the forum

Obviously I’d have to be there to see what you’re doing (not accusing you or saying it’s your fault)

Have you had any successes at all?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

JFL who is that

Psycho in his 40s

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMut6mwxyWFbPLKFXeGz0fQ

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Well first I wanna congratulate you with your 100+ approaches.

You have more balls & confidence than most of the forum

Obviously I’d have to be there to see what you’re doing (not accusing you or saying it’s your fault)

Have you had any successes at all?

It's funny cause I low-inhib mog most people yet my bad looks and autism/schizo disorders hold me back. The only success I've ever had was with a 35 yr old single mom with drug addiction and borderline personality disorder who took my virginity, but later on ghosted me and stole my wallet from me. She's the only reason I'm not a virgin to this day. After her, I've slept with some escorts in Mexico, but that's basically it.

 

[thereallegend]

Just remember the quality will not be as good as women you meet IRL

This.

Online dating has been dumpster diving for me.

 

[tyronelite]

This.

Online dating has been dumpster diving for me.

Legit tinder cucks us in so many ways

That’s why I advice using dating apps as supplement & mainly meeting women in real life through parties, social events, bars, clubs, etc

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Psycho in his 40s

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMut6mwxyWFbPLKFXeGz0fQ

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Mirin his low-inhib in this video :

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Psycho in his 40s

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMut6mwxyWFbPLKFXeGz0fQ

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JFL imagine being a prostitute and having to deal with this psycho

 

[thereallegend]

None of that “it’s a number’s game” redpill PUA Scam bullshit.

If you’re a 5-7, you need to be redpilled about approaching otherwise you’re just dumpster diving on dating apps.

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

ngl I don't even get the cope "IOIs" like eyecontact, compliment,etc so I don't even care about these threads
but seems high effort so I'll bump

 

[thereallegend]

Come on man.
You just seriously said 95% of guys suffer from neurodevelopmental disorders that cripple their ability to develop social skills .
Unless you actually have an issue like low-functioning autism, you can definitely overcome social awkwardness as an adult. Saying otherwise is cope.
Sure some people will never be "NT", literally they were not born "NT". But that's not 95% of guys , and not even the bulk of "I'm not NT " posters on forums like this, who are just socially awkward and too anxious to actually address their ... anxiety. They are scared of putting themselves in social situations that would enable them to improve, so they cope by equating themselves to people who actually have neurodevelopmental disorders, which brings us to this weird internet definition of "autistic" and "NT" that's so broad you can make ridiculous statements like the one you just made. Unless you can bring me a diagnosis that shows you actually have an issue that will always cripple your ability to socialize, don't tell me "I'm not NT it's over"

Facts, when users say they’re “non NT”, what they really mean is that their social skills are atrophied.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Mirin his low-inhib in this video :

holy fck he is based af.

Tbh when im 40 and still without family im going to be the same level of low inhib.

 

[Deleted member 19548]

What about the ioi of girls coming up to you and starting conversations

that's not an ioi nigga a girl started a conversation with me at work yesterday there was nothing flirty about it

 

[Looks234]

that's not an ioi nigga a girl started a conversation with me at work yesterday there was nothing flirty about it

A girl running up to you from behind while you’re walking to start a conversation

 

[Deleted member 19548]

A girl running up to you from behind while you’re walking to start a conversation

literally happened also on saturday with another girl when we finished our shift

 

[Mongrelcel]

Best comment on here dudes trying to turn this into rocket science, writing full reports and essays. Sexual attraction is simple if a women finds you sexually attractive and wants to fuck you she will make things easy. No women don't need to get to know you or go out on dates, women think of sex in similar fashion to men, we see a attractive person we like we want to fuck them. We have folks who have done dating app experiments and showed real life experiments.

Women who say they need to get to know you or feel you out, only say that to men their not sexually attracted to. If its in setting were they will see said man over and over again like at a store or campus, if they have a change of heart usually its either because said women lost some points in looks aka gained 12-15 pounds and less men started to approach her in terms of quality or qauntity, and now said man she told before she wanted to get to know looks like a better option. Or in some cases said man looks increased maybe better care of skin and hair or he lost a few pounds from working out and gained muscle.


go to 2:40 a hot young women whos is 19 reaction, notice he asks her to come to hes place and she instead demanded he come to her apartment only after knowing him for 25 seconds, she invited him back to have sex this isnt rocket science. Women fuck and bang men their sexually attracted to and barely know every day. Women create rules for men their not highly sexually attracted to and break rules for men they sexually like. All that talk about getting to know you and we just meet and talks about safety is BULLSHIT talk. ALL this nt talk and personallity and pua bullshit.

how tall is he?

 

[Looks234]

literally happened also on saturday with another girl when we finished our shift

Ok Chad

 

[Deleted member 19548]

Ok Chad

there is nothing to see there we just chatted, making conversation with colleagues isn't ioi

 

[Looks234]

there is nothing to see there we just chatted, making conversation with colleagues isn't ioi

ok that’s you. doesn’t change the fact girls try to talk to spark conversations with chads. You can tell if it’s platonically or sexually charged.

 

[Deleted member 19548]

ok that’s you and other guys. doesn’t change the fact girls try to talk to spark conversations with chads.

they are girls one of them even has a boyfriend and is about 17 so way younger than me, why would she be trying to go for me. you are an evil gaslighter i am so confused i don't even know what were talking about, are iois even real? i thought it was eye contact and preening and flirting and shit not making conversation

edit: darnetrius edited his post and now i am even more confused. this is abuse

 

[Looks234]

they are girls one of them even has a boyfriend and is about 17 so way younger than me, why would she be trying to go for me. you are an evil gaslighter i am so confused i don't even know what were talking about, are iois even real? i thought it was eye contact and preening and flirting and shit not making conversation

edit: darnetrius edited his post and now i am even more confused. this is abuse

She talks to you so you pass her looks threshold

 

[Deleted member 19548]

She talks to you so you pass her looks threshold

so bitches can think a man is fuckable but don't want to fuck him? the fuck

 

[Tom Jones]

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@Amnesia
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@Prettyboy
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@Tom Jones
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@Gestapo
i dont look as good as these
still got approached lul

Honored to be included buddy boyo

 

[Enfant terrible]

Honored to be included buddy boyo

i have no idea who you are or how you look like tbh

 

[Zer0/∞]

She just to compliment your skin fade (don't take it personally bro)

@FailedNormieManlet

 

[Tom Jones]

i have no idea who you are or how you look like tbh

Lol I’m subhuman. I have 3 nipples. One for each chromosome

 

[Zer0/∞]

Unless you actually have an issue like low-functioning autism, you can definitely overcome social awkwardness as an adult. Saying otherwise is cope.

Cope neurotypical retard, all foids hate autists, not even the high functioning ones are safe!

[STUDY] 2021 study shows that autistic men are way less likely to experience sex, kissing, relationships and autistic women, not so much

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.685256/full Only 53.7% of autistic guys have held someone's hand compared to 86.2% of NT men. 41.5% of autistic men had never kissed someone on the mouth with mouth closed, compared to 69% of NT men. 22% of autistic men have french kissed...

incels.is

@Br0sk1 @LMSMaxxer @AutismVictim @sevensources @stevielake

 

[stevielake]

Cope neurotypical retard, all foids hate autists, not even the high functioning ones are safe!

[STUDY] 2021 study shows that autistic men are way less likely to experience sex, kissing, relationships and autistic women, not so much

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.685256/full Only 53.7% of autistic guys have held someone's hand compared to 86.2% of NT men. 41.5% of autistic men had never kissed someone on the mouth with mouth closed, compared to 69% of NT men. 22% of autistic men have french kissed...

incels.is

@Br0sk1 @LMSMaxxer @AutismVictim @sevensources @stevielake

OP is one of those gymsexuals who tried gaslighting me and invalidate my mental health ailments in the previous thread you tagged me in. Unfortunately I can’t place his ass on ignore.

 

[Zer0/∞]

OP is one of those gymsexuals who tried gaslighting me and invalidate my mental health ailments in the previous thread you tagged me in. Unfortunately I can’t place his ass on ignore.

Muh gym can cure autism and clinical depression, honestly they should kill themselves, don’t understand the pain us Mentalcels go with

 

[Hueless]

Theres no such thing as an ioi its just a coping mechanism in your brain to keep you away from the rope

 

[Amexmaxx]

I dont have the confidence, looks, NTness or care for women to approach so i guess ill rot.

“okay so you want to get laid? Here's how you do it assuming there's nothing fundamentally about you that women find repugnant. Smell clean, put on some nice clothes, get in the proximity of women and then ignore them. When they come to fuck you and they will. Shut up and let it happen. Sorry but there's little else to it. Women are wired to respond to men who walk with enough self-confidence and involvement in their own lives that they don't need to invest any energy into bagging girls. They attract women naturally.”

^
My philosophy tbh

 

[Timelessbrah]

Brilliant fucking thread my guy. Honestly people here need to realize and accept that even though looks are a big part of attraction, the world is a social environment, where new variables come and go all the time. The girl may find you gl, but there's so much more until you can make out, have sex or even date that can't be pin pointed only to looks.

This is observable reality and anyone who actually leaves their house knows this. I'm not gonna explain every case like this that happened to myself, but its there and it can't be overlooked.

 

[stamaster21]

Exactly & most guys aren’t self aware or have enough game to close the deal

None of y’all are approaching 300 women lol

im certain at most the majority on here approached maybe 12 women at most.

 

[GloGang300]

I was cold approached by a girl recently while at the beach, then we started texting and I got dubbed after I told her what town I'm from. Although I didn't really get dubbed because I didn't even go after her. It wasn't because I was too far away, she was just disgusted by my town I guess? It went from 100 to 0, she was on my dick moments before. Wonder if I fucked up somehow or if I just got trolled, she was a really retarded insufferable white bitch though so I guess it makes sense. Legit post but I'm too high inhib to approach, even online jfl

 

[TITUS]

I have countless times talked to a girl interested in me just to never find a way to escalate, even when they obviously wanted to, probably unironically need some PUA.

 

[TITUS]

Best comment on here dudes trying to turn this into rocket science, writing full reports and essays. Sexual attraction is simple if a women finds you sexually attractive and wants to fuck you she will make things easy. No women don't need to get to know you or go out on dates, women think of sex in similar fashion to men, we see a attractive person we like we want to fuck them. We have folks who have done dating app experiments and showed real life experiments.

Women who say they need to get to know you or feel you out, only say that to men their not sexually attracted to. If its in setting were they will see said man over and over again like at a store or campus, if they have a change of heart usually its either because said women lost some points in looks aka gained 12-15 pounds and less men started to approach her in terms of quality or qauntity, and now said man she told before she wanted to get to know looks like a better option. Or in some cases said man looks increased maybe better care of skin and hair or he lost a few pounds from working out and gained muscle.


go to 2:40 a hot young women whos is 19 reaction, notice he asks her to come to hes place and she instead demanded he come to her apartment only after knowing him for 25 seconds, she invited him back to have sex this isnt rocket science. Women fuck and bang men their sexually attracted to and barely know every day. Women create rules for men their not highly sexually attracted to and break rules for men they sexually like. All that talk about getting to know you and we just meet and talks about safety is BULLSHIT talk. ALL this nt talk and personallity and pua bullshit.

Those videos are shit as hell, you never know if she saw the camera to start with, and many do. It's not like years ago when nobody was doing this, now they feel it's a youtuber and they are going into a YT video and becoming famous.

 

[TITUS]

I was cold approached by a girl recently while at the beach, then we started texting and I got dubbed after I told her what town I'm from. Although I didn't really get dubbed because I didn't even go after her. It wasn't because I was too far away, she was just disgusted by my town I guess? It went from 100 to 0, she was on my dick moments before. Wonder if I fucked up somehow or if I just got trolled, she was a really retarded insufferable white bitch though so I guess it makes sense. Legit post but I'm too high inhib to approach, even online jfl

You must be from Compton. Niggers...

 

[TITUS]

Psycho in his 40s

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMut6mwxyWFbPLKFXeGz0fQ

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That's a chad in my book, and the mental issues just add points, and make him look more "interesting".

 

[TITUS]

It's funny cause I low-inhib mog most people yet my bad looks and autism/schizo disorders hold me back. The only success I've ever had was with a 35 yr old single mom with drug addiction and borderline personality disorder who took my virginity, but later on ghosted me and stole my wallet from me. She's the only reason I'm not a virgin to this day. After her, I've slept with some escorts in Mexico, but that's basically it.

How do you know shes borderline? those are my type of women.

 

[GloGang300]

You must be from Compton. Niggers...

definitely not, i was larping as a hick. mullet, budweiser hat, grew out my pedostache. pretty viable niche tbh

 

[TITUS]

Brilliant fucking thread my guy. Honestly people here need to realize and accept that even though looks are a big part of attraction, the world is a social environment, where new variables come and go all the time. The girl may find you gl, but there's so much more until you can make out, have sex or even date that can't be pin pointed only to looks.

This is observable reality and anyone who actually leaves their house knows this. I'm not gonna explain every case like this that happened to myself, but its there and it can't be overlooked.

Explain everything, go on.

 

[chadison]

Ok, I had to get off my phone and whip out my computer cause this thread is JUICY. I like the debate going on and I am on a bit of both sides here, but mainly yours. I think there is a middle ground to all the stuff being discussed. There is one thing I partially disagree with you on, and that is the tone with which you paint IOIs. I know you probably didn't mean to, but it seemed like you described IOIs as basically nonexistent, and the only way to succeed sexually is to approach women yourself. I agree with you that IOIs are often not actually IOIs, and the woman has an exterior motive/the man is misinterpreting the gesture. Men are programmed to assume an IOI is genuine because it is a chance at reproduction and sex is scarce for most men. However, I think if you gain enough social experience as a man you can eventually easily fish out genuine IOIs from the fake ones. I have had so many interactions/experiences with women at university now that I can pretty much INSTANTLY sense a real IOI from a fake one, very few times have I been wrong in the last semester (probably 10% misinterpreted). There are little things that give away genuine IOIs such as the eye muscles tensing, the gitty energy, and extended eye contact, that all discern the intent of the woman.

Also, it is important to mention that women's attraction is two-sided. It seemed you leaned towards the side of "game only" and I don't think you meant to do that. As we know both looks and game matter. You CANNOT talk your way into a woman's pants that doesn't have at least an ember of desire for your physicality. However, you usually need at least decent game to get to the bedroom, and good/exceptional game can make you even MORE attractive in the right circumstances, to the point the girl becomes temporarily infatuated. Men, on the other hand, see a girl and want to instantly fuck her, and will then find ways to qualify her and actually downplay her bad traits to convince themselves she is worth fucking. Women think "he's cute/good looking, let me talk to him and get to know him, he seems like a guy I would want to fuck but I'm not sure yet, let's see what he's like." And all it takes is one big game mistake for a guy to fuck it up, maybe two or three if he's a Chad. The only exception to this is when women are drunk, they tend to get a little more out of hand and can make themselves seem like men in their sexual nature. The reason why game matters is because women need to feel safe, secure, and know the man is respected and is a good provider (beta need). A man with a potent combination of alpha looks and beta game (not literally beta game, I mean game as it suits her reproductive needs in this context) will create a perfect storm of desire in most women.

That being said, the rest of this thread was excellent and was one of the best write-ups I have seen. You clearly explain why Redpill principles still matter and then integrate them with the blackpill using examples. The people that want to see the truth will, and those that refuse to accept the crimson pill (usually due to lack of experience/excessive basement-dwelling) will not. I especially can relate to the part about the numbers game and all the external scenarios that can fuck up the initial interest of a woman. Many a night have I been cockblocked, got nervous, etc (even had the ex thing happen to me once, exactly as you wrote it, lol). There are people that benefit from these threads, and it helps balance the forum. Nice work.

 

[Deleted member 19499]

How do you know shes borderline? those are my type of women.

Cause she was diagnosed and went from lovey dovey to cold and distant AF. She thought I was cheating on her (JFL, imagine an incel like me even having that opportunity) or that I wanted to kill her yet I slept at her place for many nights and nothing happened. She stole my wallet yet claimed I stole her phone that she had lost even before I went to go visit her.

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Cope neurotypical retard, all foids hate autists, not even the high functioning ones are safe!

[STUDY] 2021 study shows that autistic men are way less likely to experience sex, kissing, relationships and autistic women, not so much

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.685256/full Only 53.7% of autistic guys have held someone's hand compared to 86.2% of NT men. 41.5% of autistic men had never kissed someone on the mouth with mouth closed, compared to 69% of NT men. 22% of autistic men have french kissed...

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@Br0sk1 @LMSMaxxer @AutismVictim @sevensources @stevielake

This is true, only Chads can get away with it, but still suffer like Amnesia does cause we don't fit into normal society and never will and will forever be oppressed for it.

 

[Lihito]

Listen carefully guys the only IOI is P in V

IOIs =/= Sex

You guys think women look at sex logically like us. We see a chick that's hot, we automatically think I wanna smash.. women need to feel us out before they fuck us. That's why they ask so many questions before they decide to give up the pussy.

There's a lot of things that will happen between the time you first talk to the chick & the time you're in bed with her that will mess up the situation. On top of that most of you guys don't even know what to do or have the self awareness to escalate sexually when a chick gives you IOS / Choosing Signals etc

Everything else is cope, validation, & ego
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Reason #1 - You Don't Know Why She's Giving You IOIs ​

Women will give you IOIs for numerous reasons that have nothing to do with having sex with you ​

• She gave you IOIs cuz she just wanted your non sexual attention
• She wants to make her ex jealous who's across the bar from you
• She just to make out with someone
• She wanted a cig / or hit your vape
• She saw your Gucci belt & chain & saw you as a mark (simp)
• She just to compliment your skin fade (don't take it personally bro)
• She gave you IOIs so you can buy her & her friends shots / drinks
• She wanted to put you in her friend zone cuz you came off goofy & funny
• She wants to mock you (Mclovin cel)
• She wants you to take pics of her & her friends for IG
• She gave you IOIs so she can sweet talked her way to get in front of the line at the club
• She gave you IOIs in the VIP area / lounge so her & her friends can finesse free drinks & leave immediately
• She wanted you to help find her friends, phone, vape, etc
• She gave you IOIs cuz her bf told her to approach you, flirt with you & finesse drinks off of you as she walks back to her bf & makes out with him

Do I have to keep going? I think you guys get the point
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The times when a chick is giving you IOIs & approaches you because she's sexually attracted to you RARELY HAPPENS.

And it's not enough volume for you to have a successful slaying / dating life just waiting for chicks to approach you. Also are the chicks that are approaching you the chicks you're attracted to & are your type for it to be your only strategy?

You have to approach & play the numbers game it is what it is.. You have to put yourself out there & put in the work. It's the same way everything else outside dating.

"But.. but tyronelite I bring home chicks from tinder all the time"

Yeah? And how many matches did you have to go through to invite over 1 chick & successfully get her in bed?

"Uhh 50 matches"

NUMBERS GAME

Reason #2 - You Guys Are Not Good Looking Enough​

This is gonna hurt some feelings

MOST OF Y'ALL NIGGAS AIN'T GOOD LOOKING ENOUGH / SEXUALLY APPEALING (Looks + Behavior + Appearance)

Yes I know brutal Ask yourself this & be honest with yourself .. look in the mirror & tell me, if you were a hot chick would you give that man in the mirror pussy on a platter?

Now I'm only talking about guys who are using this as their MAIN STRATEGY (waiting for IOIs & never approaching)

If you're not on any of these users looks level / sex appeal don't even bother waiting for IOIs/ women approaching you.

@Amnesia
@Prettyboy
@Tom Jones
@Gestapo

All 5+ PSL with experience online & IRL

Lemme break it down. There are guys who most women will consider really good looking to where a lot of women will check them out. And even those guys still don't get enough IOIs for it to even matter.

Lets say for ex: 5 women give @Prettyboy heavy IOIs in a nightclub checking him out, licking their lips, looking at him like a piece of meat (pause) He approaches all 5 women. In most cases he's not going to fuck all 5 of the those women..

He might fuck one if he's lucky.. why? Cuz it's still a numbers game

Girl #1 - Both exchange #, ex bf calls, she feels some type of way & all that goes out the window
Girl #2 - He might come off not confident, shy, his tonality is passive & the chick is turned off
Girl #3 - She's too intimidated by his good looks (pause) therefore she rejects herself to deal with him
Girl #4 - She's digging the vibe & wants to go back to his place but her girlfriend cock blocks him

This is what I meant when I said there's so many things that'll happen by the time you talk to her, get the #, set up the date that will cock block you from having sex with the chick

Reason #3 - She has to Choose You Again​

What I mean by this is after she gives you a strong IOI & you approach, she has to choose you again that will lead to sex

As you're having the conversation she has to like your voice, tonality, what you're saying, (mouth piece), your appearance etc. Can you escalate & flirt to the point she's getting hot & bothered or will you make her pussy dry with boring conversations? Are you stumbling over your words? Are you fidgeting & shaking? Are you looking down nervous af like an abused dog?

Once you stepped to her & started talking, that's when she starts the process of choosing you again. This goes back to my thread where I mentioned if your mindset, game etc doesn't match the outside you're not gonna succeed

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Solution​

So instead of waiting for IOIs & waiting for the chick to approach you, skip the whole process & cold approach her so she can only choose you once. Most girls in your vicinity aren't even paying attention to y'all niggas. She could literally be standing next to you & you're not even on her radar. She's busy talking to her friends, checking her phone, vibing to the music etc. You have to command the attention to the chicks you want to talk to.

It's not masculine to be waiting around for women or anything in general. Waiting = passive = feminine

Men take action & go after what they want

Or if you're a complete pussy & don't approach at all, just stick to online dating & get whatever you can get there. You see online is safer cuz you're not directly in front of the chick. So you have more time to think about what you want to say & less likely to fuck up vs IRL you're talking to a chick at a bar, you have to think on the fly while you're having a conversation.

Just remember the quality will not be as good as women you meet IRL

Any questions stay after class. Otherwise

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i should just rope at this point for being a sub chad